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BalliSLife
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poor newb
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Xeris
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2) Gasol is being defended well. | ||
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oneofthem
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now i want to see them lose. one more game! | ||
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BalliSLife
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goldenkrnboi
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lakers. what are you doing? :< | ||
shmay
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interviewer lady: everybody said you had no chance ... blah blah blah ... how do you avoid what happened in game 5? brooks: we still have no chance. *laughs* we'll keep playing though | ||
eStoniaNBoY
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Glad to see Houston backing my argument. Lakers are not mentally Championship team. They are a GOOD team nevertheless. About that Cavs- Lakers game I`m talking about that 105-88 or something game when Lebron sat out later because they were down by so much. | ||
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OneOther
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On May 15 2009 14:58 eStoniaNBoY wrote: Ah, Glad to see Houston backing my argument. Lakers are not mentally Championship team. They are a GOOD team nevertheless. About that Cavs- Lakers game I`m talking about that 105-88 or something game when Lebron sat out later because they were down by so much. meh they will be ready, i am not worried i am glad they are having this roller coaster ride before the championship having said that i am certain they will pull through on sunday | ||
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no_comprender
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On May 15 2009 07:04 Xeris wrote: i might be wrong but haven't you posted twice in this topic that kobe can defend lebron and that somehow its a semi-even matchup? you'd have to be pretty biased to believe that imo, lebrons got like 3inches, 50lbs, quickness, speed and athleticism over kobe as well as a decent threat of a jumpshot AND shooters surrounding him who you can't leave open. and kobe's slipped a bit this yr, maybe because of the olympics maybe because of age but he doesn't have the endurance of intensity he has shown in years past. he's just not capable of taking over like lebron anymore.by the way, there's nothing wrong with being a fan of a team. in fact, and this may seem like a novel concept to a troll like you, but it is actually possible to talk objectively about basketball while you are a fan of a team. just because I'm rooting for the lakers doesn't mean I think they are perfect or that I'm a "fanboy". quote anything I said that's totally wrong or biased in favor of LA, I think you'll be hard pressed to find it. just because I think people are over-hyping Clevland a shitload and think the Lakers still have a good chance at winning doesn't make me a fanboy. btw you're kidding yourself if you think this thread is conducive to objective argument, it's conducive to pathetically tame negotiation... until you offer differing opinion, then you get called a troll and get buried under an avalanche of sheep. or alternatively i've seen good points totally ignored because the more senior members tend to disregard the opinion of those who haven't networked into tl recognition yet, if you can't see how that undermines real discussion then you are BLIND On May 15 2009 07:37 XaI)CyRiC wrote: the MAJOR thing that i'm basing my opinion on the nuggets, and what everyone else is thinking of who likes the nuggets vs the lakers is that they are in rhythm and the lakers aren't. it's as simple (and as complex) as that. nuggets have confidence, great morale, and look great. also the nuggets have bruisers like nene and kmart and energy guys like birdman, the kind of guys who's stock rises when the games count, and scorers like billups and melo who have proven to be clutch. jr smith, klieza, carter are all good bench guysWell let's see what evidence we have before us: 1. The Lakers finished with the best record in the Western Conference this regular season by a sizable margin, 11 more wins than the Nuggets, who tied with the Spurs and Blazers for second. The Lakers finished the regular season with higher offensive and defensive efficiency ratings than the Nuggets. 2. The Lakers went 3-1 against the Nuggets, the last win coming about a week before the playoffs started and with the Nuggets in the midst of an 8-game winning streak. KMart didn't play, but it was Bynum's first game back after missing 30 games. The Lakers won by 14 points. 3. Kobe has consistently lit up the Nuggets in the past few seasons (or more), and continued to do so this season. The Nuggets have no one who can guard Kobe. Melo struggled against the Lakers in the first three games (partly because of an injured elbow), but woke up in the last game against them where he scored 23 pts on 16 FGA. Both are playing fantastically in the playoffs. 4. Both Billups (22.1 ppg, 7.3 apg, 3.3 3pg at 54%) and Gasol (18.7 ppg, 10 rpg, 1.9 bpg) have been having great postseasons and turned their respective teams into contenders when they joined them. 4. The Lakers went 15-5 in their last 20 games of the regular season, Denver went 14-6 for theirs. 5. The Lakers have faced the Jazz in the first round of the playoffs, and the Rockets in the second round. The Nuggets have faced the Hornets in the first round and the Mavs in the second round. 6. The Lakers made it to the Finals last season, and arguably have a better team than they did last year (this will definitely be true if Farmar continues to play well and Sasha remembers how to shoot). The Nuggets got eliminated in the first round last season, and undeniably have a MUCH better team than they did last year. Feel free to add additional facts, but these seem to make the Lakers out to be the logical favorites in a playoff matchup. the lakers remind me of the following poem: There was a little girl Who had a little curl Right in the middle of her forehead; And when she was good, She was very, very good But when she was bad she was horrid. that's the lakers, yeah if they get their act together they should handle the nuggets no probs. but they've been beaten by the depleted rockets TWICE now, and the scary thing is they looked amazing in game 5. but they came out in g6, played crap defense, kobe took some bad shots and the morale of the team just stunk the entire game. kobe's attitude can be so malignant sometimes, hes looked pissed, and played like he's pissed this series, i believe the psychological pressure his attitude places on his teammates contributes to their inconsistency | ||
Xeris
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i might be wrong but haven't you posted twice in this topic that kobe can defend lebron and that somehow its a semi-even matchup? you'd have to be pretty biased to believe that imo, lebrons got like 3inches, 50lbs, quickness, speed and athleticism over kobe as well as a decent threat of a jumpshot AND shooters surrounding him who you can't leave open. and kobe's slipped a bit this yr, maybe because of the olympics maybe because of age but he doesn't have the endurance of intensity he has shown in years past. he's just not capable of taking over like lebron anymore. did you even watch the Laker vs Cavs games this year? Kobe literally played him to a standstill... and with LeBron neutralized, Clevland got completely rolled both times. the MAJOR thing that i'm basing my opinion on the nuggets, and what everyone else is thinking of who likes the nuggets vs the lakers is that they are in rhythm and the lakers aren't. it's as simple (and as complex) as that. nuggets have confidence, great morale, and look great. also the nuggets have bruisers like nene and kmart and energy guys like birdman, the kind of guys who's stock rises when the games count, and scorers like billups and melo who have proven to be clutch. jr smith, klieza, carter are all good bench guys the lakers remind me of the following poem: There was a little girl Who had a little curl Right in the middle of her forehead; And when she was good, She was very, very good But when she was bad she was horrid. that's the lakers, yeah if they get their act together they should handle the nuggets no probs. but they've been beaten by the depleted rockets TWICE now, and the scary thing is they looked amazing in game 5. but they came out in g6, played crap defense, again, you're completely ignoring the fact that playoff games don't transition, rounds don't transition. what I mean is... you can play great one game, shitty the next, doesn't mean anything in the big picture. they won by 40 in game 5, lose by 15 in game 6. Boston couldn't handle Atlanta last year, but raped the Lakers... so Denver played well against some bad teams, big woop. that doesn't mean they have "momentum" (there's no such thing) or any other advantage over the Lakers, despite the fact that LA has been playing poorly and Denver has been playing well. right now the Lakers might not win the 2nd round (I'm going to assume they will win Sunday though).. and if/when they get to the conference finals, we'll see how much Denver's "momentum" will do for them. kobe took some bad shots and the morale of the team just stunk the entire game. kobe's attitude can be so malignant sometimes, hes looked pissed, and played like he's pissed this series, i believe the psychological pressure his attitude places on his teammates contributes to their inconsistency wow you're so smart... people have been saying this for years, you act as if it's some phenomenon... he is not even near the ogre that he has been in the past, and even a lot of people who know basketball realize that his whip-driving can actually be a good thing. people don't realize that Michael Jordan was exactly the same way, and even Jeff Van Gundy (listen to Simmons' podcast yesterday) says he thinks Kobe's attitude is mostly a good thing. sure at times it can be detrimental, but through his own hard work and dedication, he spurs people to be better (aka look at the effect he had on LeBron, Carmelo, and Wade with their time on team USA, this has been well documented by the way). people point out that Kobe isn't playing with passion, no, he's 100% business and he comes out every game totally serious and focused. he's like Garnett in this respect. does KG ever smile on the basketball court? never. Kobe won't be smiling until he's holding the trophy in June. this is the attitude the entire team needs, and hopefully soon it'll rub off on them because they can't rely on talent alone to win ballgames (they've shown this during the playoffs. | ||
Xeris
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1) Houston hasn't played nearly as well on the road (aside from game 1 when Yao went bonkers) 2) Scola won't play the game of his life twice in a row 3) Houston won't shoot 50+% twice in a row, and LA won't shoot <35% twice in a row 4) The Lakers literally lost the game because they couldn't defend the pick and roll, and Houston was just hitting everything they tossed up. what does this mean? 1) Houston is almost certainly going to stick with this strategy because it worked so well. 2) LA is going to find a way to make an adjustment to neutralize the pick and roll 3) This'll put them both on an even standpoint, so assuming the Lakers offense is working at a normal rate (team shooting ~45% from the floor) and Houston doesn't put up another insanely monstrous game, the Lakers should be able to just put up way too many points for Houston to match. So ya, I think barring some perfect game and some huge blunder by LA, the Lakers should win game 7. | ||
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