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Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
April 12 2009 18:02 GMT
#201
On April 12 2009 21:55 KaasZerg wrote:
I think I like Irradiate and spider mines much better than Hunter-seeker misiles and D-8 charches. Those seem to be so generic. Like wc3 cough. With Irradiate you can: burrow, micro it away (air), kill the affected unit yourself, run it through enemy formations (ultra). The same goes for spidermines: shoot mines, drag it into the enemy, pick up the targeted unit.

It seems to me now the only counter to AoE is to spread units or kill the caster before it casts. I hope Blizzard knows whats its doing and SC2 is more than meets the eye right now.

What?

With hunter seeker missile you can counter in exactly the same ways as irradiate, but in addition to that if you just constantly move away from it you negate the damage completely! It is just like if you would micro against scourge with splash damage or slower reaver scarabs.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
April 12 2009 18:04 GMT
#202
irradiate and mines were the only true counters to swarm
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
April 12 2009 19:59 GMT
#203
On April 13 2009 03:04 ramen247 wrote:
irradiate and mines were the only true counters to swarm


Firebats
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
spkim1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada286 Posts
April 12 2009 20:00 GMT
#204
meh :/ although I wasn't able to watch the BR#2 directly, it's gonna be disappointing the vid clearly tries to show off new Zerg units in SC2 instead of playing a real competitive match. normally, using zerglings as initial units and quickly teching into hydra, lurker and/or muta build would be how a good SC1 pro game would progress... I WANTED TO SEE SOME MUTA ACTION! *sniff* boohoo* instead they show some lame roach/ baneling action
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein, Albert
spkim1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-12 20:04:57
April 12 2009 20:03 GMT
#205
oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein, Albert
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
April 12 2009 20:08 GMT
#206
Awesome. Zerg this time. I'm excited.
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
April 12 2009 20:18 GMT
#207
On April 12 2009 21:23 Freezard wrote:
The guy who painted this image must be GOD.

Eh, what?
P⊧[1]<a>[2]<a>[3]<a>tt | P ≝ 1.a.2.a.3.a.P
Beaudereck
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada140 Posts
April 12 2009 20:24 GMT
#208
On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote:
oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever


They "dared" omit those two units, but most of the spells they have in sc1 are in sc2 for other units, exept Irradiate, I think...
Opopos
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
April 12 2009 20:37 GMT
#209
On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote:
oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever


Hai guys, I heard SC2 sucks because it's not SC1. Confirm/Deny?
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
April 12 2009 20:43 GMT
#210
On April 13 2009 05:37 Shade692003 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote:
oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever


Hai guys, I heard SC2 sucks because it's not SC1. Confirm/Deny?


The real question is, What RTS doesnt suck because its not SC:BW

SC2 would be the first
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
ManWithCheese
Profile Joined July 2007
Canada246 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-12 20:54:04
April 12 2009 20:53 GMT
#211
On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote:
oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever


If you want starcraft 1 then I have some good news for you, it already exists.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
April 12 2009 22:24 GMT
#212
On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote:
oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever

The Science Vessel has never been in any version of the game they've shown to the public.
The defiler has not been in the game for a long time / possibly never was.

Doesn't matter if their replacements are good tho, which the Infestor at least seems to be. The nighthawk probably is as well but I think I prefered it when it was called the "Nomad".. Eh, not a big gripe obviously.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
April 12 2009 22:35 GMT
#213
On April 13 2009 04:59 GeneralStan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 03:04 ramen247 wrote:
irradiate and mines were the only true counters to swarm


Firebats



firebats get raped by anything other tahn lings, which zerg will have.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
spkim1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada286 Posts
April 12 2009 22:57 GMT
#214
On April 13 2009 07:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote:
oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever

The Science Vessel has never been in any version of the game they've shown to the public.
The defiler has not been in the game for a long time / possibly never was.

Doesn't matter if their replacements are good tho, which the Infestor at least seems to be. The nighthawk probably is as well but I think I prefered it when it was called the "Nomad".. Eh, not a big gripe obviously.



true I absolutely agree. as long as there are replacing units that can use the ability to the same effect there's no problem at all. Dark swarm is a crucial support for lurk/ling offense, so it would be very saddenning if it did not make its appearance :S and sci-vessels make ZvT games mroe fun
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein, Albert
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
April 12 2009 22:58 GMT
#215
its monday,
hope they will come into there office.
Look at the sc2 site and see the video is not working
click 2 buttons and fix it!!
Studying Chinese~
Cpt.Cocaine
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada299 Posts
April 12 2009 22:59 GMT
#216
It's not monday at blizzard yet.
spkim1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada286 Posts
April 12 2009 23:02 GMT
#217
On April 13 2009 05:53 ManWithCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote:
oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever


If you want starcraft 1 then I have some good news for you, it already exists.


hey thanks for letting me know I thought it would appear slightly obvious that I already have, and am an active player of SC1. But I guess some people can't go on without making witty remarks eh? Don't get me wrong, I am dying for SC2, like all of us. Can't wait to see awsm players play in 3D sexiness graphics XD
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" - Einstein, Albert
Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
April 12 2009 23:27 GMT
#218
On April 13 2009 07:57 spkim1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 07:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote:
oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever

The Science Vessel has never been in any version of the game they've shown to the public.
The defiler has not been in the game for a long time / possibly never was.

Doesn't matter if their replacements are good tho, which the Infestor at least seems to be. The nighthawk probably is as well but I think I prefered it when it was called the "Nomad".. Eh, not a big gripe obviously.



true I absolutely agree. as long as there are replacing units that can use the ability to the same effect there's no problem at all. Dark swarm is a crucial support for lurk/ling offense, so it would be very saddenning if it did not make its appearance :S and sci-vessels make ZvT games mroe fun


True but swarm would lose all of it's potency if defilers didn't have virtually infinite energy with consume... which isn't the case for the SC2 corruptor. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, (actually it might even be a good thing for gameplay), but i'm just saying that in practice, we won't use the old dark swarm in the same way as we'll use the new one.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
April 12 2009 23:28 GMT
#219
On April 13 2009 07:57 spkim1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 07:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote:
oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever

The Science Vessel has never been in any version of the game they've shown to the public.
The defiler has not been in the game for a long time / possibly never was.

Doesn't matter if their replacements are good tho, which the Infestor at least seems to be. The nighthawk probably is as well but I think I prefered it when it was called the "Nomad".. Eh, not a big gripe obviously.



true I absolutely agree. as long as there are replacing units that can use the ability to the same effect there's no problem at all. Dark swarm is a crucial support for lurk/ling offense, so it would be very saddenning if it did not make its appearance :S and sci-vessels make ZvT games mroe fun

I think they removed swarm last I heard.. It definitely didn't have consume anyway.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
afg-warrior
Profile Joined June 2007
Afghanistan328 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-12 23:36:34
April 12 2009 23:36 GMT
#220
On April 13 2009 05:37 Shade692003 wrote:
Hai guys, I heard SC2 sucks because it's not SC1. Confirm/Deny?



LOL
"Yeah fuck multiplayer I'm only in this for the xel'naga" snowdrift86
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