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On April 12 2009 21:55 KaasZerg wrote: I think I like Irradiate and spider mines much better than Hunter-seeker misiles and D-8 charches. Those seem to be so generic. Like wc3 cough. With Irradiate you can: burrow, micro it away (air), kill the affected unit yourself, run it through enemy formations (ultra). The same goes for spidermines: shoot mines, drag it into the enemy, pick up the targeted unit.
It seems to me now the only counter to AoE is to spread units or kill the caster before it casts. I hope Blizzard knows whats its doing and SC2 is more than meets the eye right now. What?
With hunter seeker missile you can counter in exactly the same ways as irradiate, but in addition to that if you just constantly move away from it you negate the damage completely! It is just like if you would micro against scourge with splash damage or slower reaver scarabs.
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irradiate and mines were the only true counters to swarm
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On April 13 2009 03:04 ramen247 wrote: irradiate and mines were the only true counters to swarm
Firebats
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meh :/ although I wasn't able to watch the BR#2 directly, it's gonna be disappointing the vid clearly tries to show off new Zerg units in SC2 instead of playing a real competitive match. normally, using zerglings as initial units and quickly teching into hydra, lurker and/or muta build would be how a good SC1 pro game would progress... I WANTED TO SEE SOME MUTA ACTION! *sniff* boohoo* instead they show some lame roach/ baneling action
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oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever
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Awesome. Zerg this time. I'm excited.
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On April 12 2009 21:23 Freezard wrote: The guy who painted this image must be GOD. Eh, what?
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On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote: oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever
They "dared" omit those two units, but most of the spells they have in sc1 are in sc2 for other units, exept Irradiate, I think...
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On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote: oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever
Hai guys, I heard SC2 sucks because it's not SC1. Confirm/Deny?
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On April 13 2009 05:37 Shade692003 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote: oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever Hai guys, I heard SC2 sucks because it's not SC1. Confirm/Deny?
The real question is, What RTS doesnt suck because its not SC:BW
SC2 would be the first
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On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote: oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever
If you want starcraft 1 then I have some good news for you, it already exists.
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On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote: oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever The Science Vessel has never been in any version of the game they've shown to the public. The defiler has not been in the game for a long time / possibly never was.
Doesn't matter if their replacements are good tho, which the Infestor at least seems to be. The nighthawk probably is as well but I think I prefered it when it was called the "Nomad".. Eh, not a big gripe obviously.
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On April 13 2009 04:59 GeneralStan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2009 03:04 ramen247 wrote: irradiate and mines were the only true counters to swarm Firebats
firebats get raped by anything other tahn lings, which zerg will have.
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On April 13 2009 07:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote: oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever The Science Vessel has never been in any version of the game they've shown to the public. The defiler has not been in the game for a long time / possibly never was. Doesn't matter if their replacements are good tho, which the Infestor at least seems to be. The nighthawk probably is as well but I think I prefered it when it was called the "Nomad".. Eh, not a big gripe obviously.
true I absolutely agree. as long as there are replacing units that can use the ability to the same effect there's no problem at all. Dark swarm is a crucial support for lurk/ling offense, so it would be very saddenning if it did not make its appearance :S and sci-vessels make ZvT games mroe fun
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its monday, hope they will come into there office. Look at the sc2 site and see the video is not working click 2 buttons and fix it!!
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It's not monday at blizzard yet.
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On April 13 2009 05:53 ManWithCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote: oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever If you want starcraft 1 then I have some good news for you, it already exists.
hey thanks for letting me know I thought it would appear slightly obvious that I already have, and am an active player of SC1. But I guess some people can't go on without making witty remarks eh? Don't get me wrong, I am dying for SC2, like all of us. Can't wait to see awsm players play in 3D sexiness graphics XD
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On April 13 2009 07:57 spkim1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2009 07:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote: oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever The Science Vessel has never been in any version of the game they've shown to the public. The defiler has not been in the game for a long time / possibly never was. Doesn't matter if their replacements are good tho, which the Infestor at least seems to be. The nighthawk probably is as well but I think I prefered it when it was called the "Nomad".. Eh, not a big gripe obviously. true I absolutely agree. as long as there are replacing units that can use the ability to the same effect there's no problem at all. Dark swarm is a crucial support for lurk/ling offense, so it would be very saddenning if it did not make its appearance :S and sci-vessels make ZvT games mroe fun 
True but swarm would lose all of it's potency if defilers didn't have virtually infinite energy with consume... which isn't the case for the SC2 corruptor. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, (actually it might even be a good thing for gameplay), but i'm just saying that in practice, we won't use the old dark swarm in the same way as we'll use the new one.
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On April 13 2009 07:57 spkim1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2009 07:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:On April 13 2009 05:03 spkim1 wrote: oh man! which reminds me (suddenly struck by wave of fear;;; ): are they going to dare omit the science vessel and the defiler in SC2??? if they do, SC2's onlook is gloomier than ever The Science Vessel has never been in any version of the game they've shown to the public. The defiler has not been in the game for a long time / possibly never was. Doesn't matter if their replacements are good tho, which the Infestor at least seems to be. The nighthawk probably is as well but I think I prefered it when it was called the "Nomad".. Eh, not a big gripe obviously. true I absolutely agree. as long as there are replacing units that can use the ability to the same effect there's no problem at all. Dark swarm is a crucial support for lurk/ling offense, so it would be very saddenning if it did not make its appearance :S and sci-vessels make ZvT games mroe fun  I think they removed swarm last I heard.. It definitely didn't have consume anyway.
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On April 13 2009 05:37 Shade692003 wrote: Hai guys, I heard SC2 sucks because it's not SC1. Confirm/Deny?
LOL
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