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PhorClayton
United States198 Posts
It's like watching a dog chase its tail for decades; the small difference being that the tail is an actual piece of shit. Words used containing some form of the word "shit" = 18 What do I win? | ||
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bboyldy
Korea (North)664 Posts
On January 31 2009 23:25 PhorClayton wrote: Hip/Hop music is like a programming loop — Some guy does shit with his life, then sings about the shit he has done to sell shit-filled CDs to kids who inspire to do that same shit. Then those kids become shitheads themselves and do shitheaded shit, then sing about the shitheaded shit they've accomplished so they can vocally fling shit onto CDs so they can make money singing about shitheaded shit to other shitheaded shits who want to become shitheads, and on and on; while thousands of like-minded shitheaded shits wither into poverty and alcoholism/jail/death. It's like watching a dog chase its tail for decades; the small difference being that the tail is an actual piece of shit. Words used containing some form of the word "shit" = 18 What do I win? My dick in your mouth. | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
On January 31 2009 23:25 PhorClayton wrote: Hip/Hop music is like a programming loop — Some guy does shit with his life, then sings about the shit he has done to sell shit-filled CDs to kids who inspire to do that same shit. Then those kids become shitheads themselves and do shitheaded shit, then sing about the shitheaded shit they've accomplished so they can vocally fling shit onto CDs so they can make money singing about shitheaded shit to other shitheaded shits who want to become shitheads, and on and on; while thousands of like-minded shitheaded shits wither into poverty and alcoholism/jail/death. It's like watching a dog chase its tail for decades; the small difference being that the tail is an actual piece of shit. Words used containing some form of the word "shit" = 18 What do I win? dick in a box | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On January 31 2009 22:10 JudgeMathis wrote: It's not the best hiphop song out there, but this song is SUUUUUUUUUUUUUPER good. Little Brother is the shit...although IMO The Get Back is their worst album. Phonte is one of the best today. | ||
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TryThis
Canada1522 Posts
i wanted to post buck 65, first thing that came to mind, but he's only got one good youtube song and it already here Also, im totally with Charlie on IT and Jedi, i saw them both live, front row at Rock the bell 08, they both sucked, anyways This Thread needs more Mos Def, hes not underground i know, but fuck you he's amazing http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=9JltdIHDOsg The Grouch - Clean Nikes http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw5A7H-g_cs Flying Lotus - Roit http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=yXULecvImpw | ||
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Braintricks
137 Posts
On January 31 2009 19:24 CharlieMurphy wrote: some lol songs (but still good listening imo) It's not even like that at all. Lot of my friends still like Atmosphere, Jedi Mind Tricks, Sage Francis, whatever. I mean the shit is better than 90% of everything else but its just the worst of the best imo. I mean I liked atmosphere's first album but every single release after that (save for a few songs) is progressively worse. Now they are only 2 members, and can be seen selling out on MTV2 making catchy songs that appeals primarily for girls (Zulu and I were talking about this recently). Also, many of you would be surprised how many underground beats make it into commercials and other 'pop' stuff. And it's just about selling out either, they can still make the money and keep it real without having to try and sell records. Most of the guys still work day jobs or whatever and they make their songs that people can relate with. They don't let their wealth or any label or whatever corrupt them. So the only thing they have to fear is running out of content or their style just getting old, so many of these guys will change styles or evolve into another style and it sucks. So like take immortal technique for example, he tries to sound intelligent,political, and tough at the same time, like he grew up in the mean streets etc. Its just really annoying and almost as bad as the gangster Master P crap. His beats are all floaty and classical sounding which also pisses me off because it makes him come off as some kind of enlightened soldier or something. The content isn't that great, his lyrics/rhyming ability is run of the mill (nigga this, nigga that from time to time), and his delivery is more commercial style than anything else. All his songs are basically the same thing he's always rhyming about how great he is or how terrible others are. This is one of those things that should go unsaid if you are good (except for battle rhymes). Then you got all these fanboys totally jocking his nuts and cheesey graff fonted name. I dunno maybe I am just biased against east coast shit because I don't relate as much. Yeah, I understand what you mean. It's just sort of a pet peeve and I knee-jerk respond probably too often. But yeah, IT is an egotistical maniac and people do think they understand "underground hip-hop" once they've listened to a few of his songs (which I don't claim to understand either lol). | ||
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Clasic
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
Goretex - Art of dying Goretex - The big sleep Biggie Smalls - Juicy 2 Pac - If I die tonight | ||
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stiga
United States377 Posts
Pill Poppa You Fuck Wit Dre Day None Shall Pass | ||
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stiga
United States377 Posts
Jizz in my pants Lawl theres rhyming in it... | ||
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kroko
Finland2136 Posts
Adam Tensta ft. Eboi - Dopeboy (from Sweden, but not really  )+ Show Spoiler + Redrama - Let Em Try (from Finland) + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Ry-Masta-T
United States478 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Xplosive - Dre, Kurupt, Hitman + Show Spoiler + Don't Lose ya Head - Zion I + Show Spoiler + | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32157 Posts
On January 31 2009 08:40 demonic_phate wrote: One of my favorites too (probably the first hip hop song I really liked). R.A. is amazing in his verse. love this song, it's so awesome | ||
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BooBoogers
United States229 Posts
Benefit - Blind Following Proceed with caution (remix) - Benefit Ft. Eminem | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 31 2009 19:24 CharlieMurphy wrote: run of the mill (nigga this, nigga that from time to time), and his delivery is more commercial style than anything else. Just for you. And I don't care if Wale is going mainstream because I don't have a stick up my ass. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On January 31 2009 23:25 PhorClayton wrote: Hip/Hop music is like a programming loop — Some guy does shit with his life, then sings about the shit he has done to sell shit-filled CDs to kids who inspire to do that same shit. Then those kids become shitheads themselves and do shitheaded shit, then sing about the shitheaded shit they've accomplished so they can vocally fling shit onto CDs so they can make money singing about shitheaded shit to other shitheaded shits who want to become shitheads, and on and on; while thousands of like-minded shitheaded shits wither into poverty and alcoholism/jail/death. It's like watching a dog chase its tail for decades; the small difference being that the tail is an actual piece of shit. Words used containing some form of the word "shit" = 18 What do I win? sub the word hip-hop with rap/rock and you are correct. On February 01 2009 00:09 bboyldy wrote: My dick in your mouth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhGO5f8gdWQ Vans are sorry shoes, this song fails. On February 01 2009 05:06 Jibba wrote: Just for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp05cNnsR3I&feature=related And I don't care if Wale is going mainstream because I don't have a stick up my ass. What do you mean he is going mainstream? This idiot was never even underground (came around in 2005). He's just a lesser know wanna be commercial rapper like every other douche bag. This is not hip hop this is rap. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On February 01 2009 02:17 Clasic wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxNZ-QxFimc Goretex - Art of dying this whole album is so good. I slept on 'horrorcore' stuff since like 2001 and recently heard this album. So many good songs. Earth Rot has one of the sickest beats ever, Celebrity Roast, 60:00, The Last 100 Days of Sodom. (in order below) I think I just played them off as one of the many other east coast semi underground like the rest after necro's first album. But they are different, their lyrics (aside from the gory style) are not all self righteous or ghetto or whatever (im sure there are a few instances, but not nearly as bad as IT for example). | ||
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ilovehnk
475 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + "Oh, this song is really good... Is this underground? It's... It's not? Aw damn, better not listen to it anymore then..." Who gives a crap if it's underground, mainstream, upstream or livestream, if you like the song, just go with it, nobody but poser douches give a crap how underground you are. If rappers or really any kind of musicians start sucking, don't say they went mainstream or call them sellouts, call them "good rappers that lost their sound." You wouldn't mind (would you?) if someone made it big and started selling millions of records if they were still awesome rappers. I like Ludacris, I like Eminem, I like Dr. Dre, I like Snoop Dogg, I like Jay-z, I like 50 Cent, and I like a bunch of songs I hear on the radio but never bother to remember to artist of. I liked a bunch of song in this thread. I don't give a shit about where they grew up or how hood they are (in fact when rappers feel the need to validate themselves by saying they from the hood, that makes them sound pretentious to me), I like their music because the rhymes and beats are good, which makes it good rap to me. Music is about taste. I don't like Britney Spears because I can't stand her moaning and squeaking and her lyrics tend to be retarded, but there are people who don't give a shit about lyrics as long as the beat is good enough to jump around, jump around to. What are you gonna tell them, stop jumping around because your definition of good music doesn't fit that description? You are much cooler for listening to shit nobody else listens to (with deep, philosophical, PH.D. physics kinda content), therefore you are right, right? The IT song wasn't good. He has problems keeping his syllables in sync with the beat, which to me makes it bad rap. I don't know anything about underground and therefore I'm supposed to like him? What is it exactly about underground music that is so great that it merits spending my time listening to? Broke boys from the hood rapping about how shit sucks in their neighborhood. Why? So that they can get discovered and go mainstream and get rich, assholes! Point is, don't categorize music by underground or mainstream, categorize it by good or bad, or you risk coming off as a pretentious prick. Interesting philosophical question: + Show Spoiler + My sister likes rap. She loved this one song that was incredibly derogatory to women. Is it OK to like a song because of it's sweet beat if the lyrics are about how you are good for nothing but sucking dick? If Nate Dogg made a song about how much of a whore I am, I probably wouldn't like it even if the rhymes and beat were awesome. Omg deep shit! Edit: On January 31 2009 08:36 MYM.Testie wrote: I've posted this before. It's worth posting again if we're going for great hip hop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r0KpWMNxnM That was awesome. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On February 01 2009 06:04 Osmoses wrote: Angry rebate on the whole underground/mainstream deal. Rated PG-13 for light swearing: + Show Spoiler + "Oh, this song is really good... Is this underground? It's... It's not? Aw damn, better not listen to it anymore then..." Who gives a crap if it's underground, mainstream, upstream or livestream, if you like the song, just go with it, nobody but poser douches give a crap how underground you are. If rappers or really any kind of musicians start sucking, don't say they went mainstream or call them sellouts, call them "good rappers that lost their sound." You wouldn't mind (would you?) if someone made it big and started selling millions of records if they were still awesome rappers. I like Ludacris, I like Eminem, I like Dr. Dre, I like Snoop Dogg, I like Jay-z, I like 50 Cent, and I like a bunch of songs I hear on the radio but never bother to remember to artist of. I liked a bunch of song in this thread. I don't give a shit about where they grew up or how hood they are (in fact when rappers feel the need to validate themselves by saying they from the hood, that makes them sound pretentious to me), I like their music because the rhymes and beats are good, which makes it good rap to me. Music is about taste. I don't like Britney Spears because I can't stand her moaning and squeaking and her lyrics tend to be retarded, but there are people who don't give a shit about lyrics as long as the beat is good enough to jump around, jump around to. What are you gonna tell them, stop jumping around because your definition of good music doesn't fit that description? You are much cooler for listening to shit nobody else listens to (with deep, philosophical, PH.D. physics kinda content), therefore you are right, right? The IT song wasn't good. He has problems keeping his syllables in sync with the beat, which to me makes it bad rap. I don't know anything about underground and therefore I'm supposed to like him? What is it exactly about underground music that is so great that it merits spending my time listening to? Broke boys from the hood rapping about how shit sucks in their neighborhood. Why? So that they can get discovered and go mainstream and get rich, assholes! Point is, don't categorize music by underground or mainstream, categorize it by good or bad, or you risk coming off as a pretentious prick. Interesting philosophical question: + Show Spoiler + My sister likes rap. She loved this one song that was incredibly derogatory to women. Is it OK to like a song because of it's sweet beat if the lyrics are about how you are good for nothing but sucking dick? If Nate Dogg made a song about how much of a whore I am, I probably wouldn't like it even if the rhymes and beat were awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF-hhUckERY Omg deep shit! Edit: That was awesome. Your sister gonna love this track! You are missing the point of underground vs mainstream. Not all underground is good (as mentioned about IT or whoever). It's still better than 90% of the mainstream. Stuff is mainstream for a few reasons; 1 - to sell records and make money (not for the musical/lyrical content), 2 - to gain power,fame, etc., These people are not in it for the music. If they knew they wouldn't get paid they probably wouldn't do it. People are generally not underground because 'they can't make it' or whatever, they are there by choice. Of course good music is good music, And I do like some more mainstreamed stuff but it's oversaturated and commercialized. These are the same people being used to sell you Sprite for example. Some catchy hook or beat is never going to last for more than a few months because it gets old and there is some other mainstream guy doing the same thing. It goes on and on. You are totally misinformed about the mentality of underground fans. I do not say "I'm underground, I'm better than you, you suck- you like mainstream", I do not go around using the fact that I like underground music to get people to respect/like me. In fact it is just the opposite, I find most people do not understand or care and would rather listen to their commercial party songs. So for the most part I don't share or talk with it about anyone unless they bring it up first. The thing is people claim to be underground or whatever and they just don't know much about the genre (or hip-hop) at all. This is when I get the offense/defense up and let them know. So naturally when people come in posting Jedi Mind Trick videos and saying 'THIS IS THE BEST SONG', I have to disagree and explain why. Some of these underground guys may still be in it for just the fame/money but they don't really mention it in their lyrics (which is why it's still better than most mainstreamed), but it's still not that great. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On February 01 2009 06:37 CharlieMurphy wrote: You are missing the point of underground vs mainstream. Not all underground is good (as mentioned about IT or whoever). It's still better than 90% of the mainstream. Stuff is mainstream for a few reasons; 1 - to sell records and make money (not for the musical/lyrical content), 2 - to gain power,fame, etc., These people are not in it for the music. If they knew they wouldn't get paid they probably wouldn't do it. People are generally not underground because 'they can't make it' or whatever, they are there by choice. Of course good music is good music, And I do like some more mainstreamed stuff but it's oversaturated and commercialized. These are the same people being used to sell you Sprite for example. Some catchy hook or beat is never going to last for more than a few months because it gets old and there is some other mainstream guy doing the same thing. It goes on and on. You are totally misinformed about the mentality of underground fans. I do not say "I'm underground, I'm better than you, you suck- you like mainstream", I do not go around using the fact that I like underground music to get people to respect/like me. In fact it is just the opposite, I find most people do not understand or care and would rather listen to their commercial party songs. So for the most part I don't share or talk with it about anyone unless they bring it up first. The thing is people claim to be underground or whatever and they just don't know much about the genre (or hip-hop) at all. This is when I get the offense/defense up and let them know. So naturally when people come in posting Jedi Mind Trick videos and saying 'THIS IS THE BEST SONG', I have to disagree and explain why. Some of these underground guys may still be in it for just the fame/money but they don't really mention it in their lyrics (which is why it's still better than most mainstreamed), but it's still not that great. Yeah that's totally the kind of song she'd like, so confusing -_- But why does music become mainstream? Because it's good enough for more than a small minority to enjoy. I've listened to my fair share of supposedly underground hip hop, and can't remember a single track, so its not like it's automatically longer lasting either. When someone says "This is the best song ever," that's just their opinion. I don't see the problem either of people being into something just for the money. If their music is good enough to entertain enough people, then the job is done, whatever the intentions of the artist was. It's alot like writing. Someone can write a poem about, literally, a dropped ice-cream cone, and depending on who reads it there can be a bazillion different interpretations about life, eternity, any deep shit you can imagine. Its always up to the consumer to make his or her own interpretation. Do you really think you could separate an underground or a mainstream artist's music if you didn't know beforehand which was which? I already vented on this so I'm kinda out of steam. My mind is wandering, I don't think I care enough to argue about it anymore. It's just another conflict of groups. Bleh. Might be the Ibuprofen... Edit: Oh right, contributing: | ||
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