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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 14 2009 04:09 GMT
#301
1 mine > 2 reaver, probably best moment of either games.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 14 2009 04:16 GMT
#302
LOL omg.
can i play him? ^^
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
January 14 2009 04:21 GMT
#303
Some one find that july vs light game where he wins with pure muta, he'd have the best reaction
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44085 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 04:29:51
January 14 2009 04:23 GMT
#304
On January 14 2009 07:37 JoeSaddles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2009 07:32 Chill wrote:
You're in for a rude awakening. Please post your replay pack from ICCup. I predict we never hear back from you but I'd love to be proven wrong.


Good job blindly posting something like this when you have no idea of my level of skill or handspeed. A lot of people can understand the game and what builds you need to use, very few have the actual speed to be able to turn that knowledge into WINS against other good players. I'll gladly try iccup as well, thanks for blindly doubting me!!!

Lol, yeah. It's all about the handspeed....
Going to lay down a challenge here.

I will beat you with less than 100 apm. On any map you like. As many times as you like. Over and over. I will be armed with only game knowledge, useless without your progamer like mechanics. You will be able to demonstrate to teamliquid that no matter how much people study and understand the game the better clickfester will overcome. After all, that knowledge alone isn't enough to get WINS vs good players like yourself.

Accept?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 14 2009 04:28 GMT
#305
On January 14 2009 13:23 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2009 07:37 JoeSaddles wrote:
On January 14 2009 07:32 Chill wrote:
You're in for a rude awakening. Please post your replay pack from ICCup. I predict we never hear back from you but I'd love to be proven wrong.


Good job blindly posting something like this when you have no idea of my level of skill or handspeed. A lot of people can understand the game and what builds you need to use, very few have the actual speed to be able to turn that knowledge into WINS against other good players. I'll gladly try iccup as well, thanks for blindly doubting me!!!

Lol, yeah. It's all about the handspeed....
Going to lay down a challenge here.

I will beat you with less than 100 apm. On any map you like. As many times as you like. Over and over.

Accept?


70 apm is where its at man, all the cool kids are doing it now.

Man, I haven't seriously been active till a month ago for 2ish years, and I'm not naive enough to say something like "all the current pros suck more than the old ones" the game is constantly evolving.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 04:42:48
January 14 2009 04:38 GMT
#306
nvm
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
January 14 2009 04:42 GMT
#307
This thread went from epic to legendary. Like everyone else, I am just so intrigued by this old vs new battle. Please more relays!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 14 2009 04:42 GMT
#308
lol kwark seriously how do you play with like lets say 100apm, i want to try so badly but i tend to keep clicking. its harder to play with 70+/- apm than at 200apm, truth!
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
January 14 2009 04:43 GMT
#309
LOL, is kwark looking for sort of breakfast,?
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
January 14 2009 04:45 GMT
#310
On January 14 2009 13:23 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2009 07:37 JoeSaddles wrote:
On January 14 2009 07:32 Chill wrote:
You're in for a rude awakening. Please post your replay pack from ICCup. I predict we never hear back from you but I'd love to be proven wrong.


Good job blindly posting something like this when you have no idea of my level of skill or handspeed. A lot of people can understand the game and what builds you need to use, very few have the actual speed to be able to turn that knowledge into WINS against other good players. I'll gladly try iccup as well, thanks for blindly doubting me!!!

Lol, yeah. It's all about the handspeed....
Going to lay down a challenge here.

I will beat you with less than 100 apm. On any map you like. As many times as you like. Over and over. I will be armed with only game knowledge, useless without your progamer like mechanics. You will be able to demonstrate to teamliquid that no matter how much people study and understand the game the better clickfester will overcome. After all, that knowledge alone isn't enough to get WINS vs good players like yourself.

Accept?

I would honestly pay to watch this.
Guys, I just want to mention that I love TL and this is a prime example of why.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10831 Posts
January 14 2009 04:46 GMT
#311
this thread is loltastic!
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 04:48:58
January 14 2009 04:47 GMT
#312
i bet the OP isn't coming back
such a pity i wanted more to laugh at

edit: also Testie never got invited to korea that was a complete misunderstanding
Ender
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States294 Posts
January 14 2009 04:54 GMT
#313
Actually I was far more interested in what Saddles would do in PvT when he came across an FD build. He probably would have thought it was some sort of gundam rush and suddenly the guy has an expo! What sorcery is this!?
The beatings will continue until the morale improves.
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
January 14 2009 04:56 GMT
#314
On January 14 2009 13:54 Ender wrote:
Actually I was far more interested in what Saddles would do in PvT when he came across an FD build. He probably would have thought it was some sort of gundam rush and suddenly the guy has an expo! What sorcery is this!?

check replay #2. i'm pretty sure he had no idea about the expo
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 05:01:20
January 14 2009 04:59 GMT
#315
I don't get what he means by hand-speed, he's at 150apm in those reps that's so slow it's questionable whether he's mentally handicapped in some way shape or form.
It's better to burn out than to fade away
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 05:21:22
January 14 2009 05:01 GMT
#316
he has beaten C ranked player already, not going to name names but ya, he understands the game, the C ranked unname player was playing off race, and so did saddles, it was pvz, saddle ended up going chojja cowboy style and ultraling stormed around 13 mins into the game with 200/200 maxed out zerg off 3 gas. His pvp is his best match up, that same guy posted saddle's losing replays lost to saddles in pvp.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
January 14 2009 05:01 GMT
#317
I don't see the big deal here if when he left testiecwas a hacker it must have been a huge shock to learn he was a top foreinor. It would proly be like coming back in 5 years and finding out last shadow or even combat-ex became a highly respected top foreinor. Although I don't know the personality of testis when he was a hacker...
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 05:20:47
January 14 2009 05:17 GMT
#318
On January 14 2009 14:01 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
I don't see the big deal here if when he left testiecwas a hacker it must have been a huge shock to learn he was a top foreinor. It would proly be like coming back in 5 years and finding out last shadow or even combat-ex became a highly respected top foreinor. Although I don't know the personality of testis when he was a hacker...

Thats not realy the point, but the fact that he came so arrogantly to criticize the new strategies and players without actually proving himself, what he is trying to do now.. with not so good results. .__.

SaddleS, you should really consider watching some Proleague/MSL/OSL matches on the YouTube account of Nevake or dl them from the TL.net tracker to see how much the game has evolved on the Pro level. Believe it or not.. queens and valkyries are actually not that rare today!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7577 Posts
January 14 2009 05:19 GMT
#319
On January 14 2009 13:23 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2009 07:37 JoeSaddles wrote:
On January 14 2009 07:32 Chill wrote:
You're in for a rude awakening. Please post your replay pack from ICCup. I predict we never hear back from you but I'd love to be proven wrong.


Good job blindly posting something like this when you have no idea of my level of skill or handspeed. A lot of people can understand the game and what builds you need to use, very few have the actual speed to be able to turn that knowledge into WINS against other good players. I'll gladly try iccup as well, thanks for blindly doubting me!!!

Lol, yeah. It's all about the handspeed....
Going to lay down a challenge here.

I will beat you with less than 100 apm. On any map you like. As many times as you like. Over and over. I will be armed with only game knowledge, useless without your progamer like mechanics. You will be able to demonstrate to teamliquid that no matter how much people study and understand the game the better clickfester will overcome. After all, that knowledge alone isn't enough to get WINS vs good players like yourself.

Accept?


david you are a fucking evil bastard.


(Saddles do not play him on this bet, he is the best low apm player in the world!!)
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11598 Posts
January 14 2009 05:19 GMT
#320
On January 14 2009 14:01 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
I don't see the big deal here if when he left testiecwas a hacker it must have been a huge shock to learn he was a top foreinor. It would proly be like coming back in 5 years and finding out last shadow or even combat-ex became a highly respected top foreinor. Although I don't know the personality of testis when he was a hacker...


I agree with this so much. Seems to me all of the young bloods who are newer to the scene, who don't even know of NookS, NerO, Saddles, JulloPud, are questioning him if he is even good at starcraft. There was a debate maybe a year ago, about if a top tier foreigner could beat a progamer from the 2001-2002 ages. And it was eventually decided that the answer is no, the skill level hasn't changed that much, there's just a lot more people who have been able to get onto that amazing level.

As much as people want to say, Starcraft really hasn't changed that much. There was still 2 factory pushes, there was fast expansions, the game really hasn't changed much. Sure there is a vast amount of new players, newer pros, but that doesn't mean that the top tier players from a few years earlier haven't just been surpassed insanely. They just lose a lot of interest.

In the time of Saddles and NerO, they were considered some of the top players in the United States. Everyone who competed competitively, even in 2005 knew of these players. During the time of Saddles, the top Canadian player was Fayth, and Testie was some UsEast hacker. I'm guessing this is when Saddles left the scene.

If he left at that time, don't go jump on a bandwagon saying he is a fool, just because Testie was a great player a year or two ago. I remember hearing stories of a preliminary match in 2004 when Testie showed up to WCG LAN and had his keyboard unplugged from a computer and just spammed his hotkeys while waiting for a game. He ended up winning the match, and everyone was surprised because he was a known hacker. Much like Dino beating iNControl this year in WCG Regionals.

Do I think Saddles is a great player? I know he used to, if he practiced a lot and got back into his old condition, I believe he could reclaim being one of the best in the United States within a month.
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