• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:55
CEST 09:55
KST 16:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo16Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4
StarCraft 2
General
Force Vital: (We Tried It 365) My Honest Review! StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes?
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List vespene.gg — BW replays in browser
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10808 users

Nony in korea... NICE. - Page 14

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 20 Next All
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
January 14 2009 01:58 GMT
#261
Administrator
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 14 2009 02:00 GMT
#262
On January 14 2009 10:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
iNcontroL what do you remember about his skill level?


saddles was a decent and strong protoss but not quite what he is saying now hehe

He was an awesome clan mate however and he did really help JF/Nony and others. That much deserves respect.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
January 14 2009 02:03 GMT
#263
On January 14 2009 10:57 Jono wrote:
How can you teach someone SC... "yea.. you're gonna wanna build a pylon now"

You can explain how the game works, how the matchups work, what you are doing wrong etcetc.

Saying you can't teach someone SC is like saying you can't teach someone Chess, or hell, a language.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 14 2009 02:04 GMT
#264
People are able to teach eachother much more abstract things than starcraft which is a perfectly logical, rational, if-then game.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
January 14 2009 02:15 GMT
#265
Wow was not aware that JF actually posted here on TL.
Hi.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
January 14 2009 02:16 GMT
#266
Also I haven't played in a few months but I'm confident I could beat him with either of my off races.
Hi.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3394 Posts
January 14 2009 02:19 GMT
#267
He ended up with 97-105 (48%) (5894 - C+) with sMi.Saddles in August, 2006. He is decent I would assume but not as amazing as he describes himself.
김택용 Fighting!
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
January 14 2009 02:23 GMT
#268
he says he wants to go pro.. LOL
SNSD fan
reachfortherings
Profile Joined January 2009
63 Posts
January 14 2009 02:28 GMT
#269
--- Nuked ---
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
January 14 2009 02:46 GMT
#270
lol this is awesome i can't wait to see what his rec will be and when / if he resets out of frustration. zvp is totally, completely, utterly different than 4 years ago its hilarious, actually same with all the mus, if he gets to anywhere near B- he will likely just get completely wrecked, but i bet he doesn't get that far. i think the thing people underestimate most right now is the skill jumps from C to B, its really way, way larger a gap in level than people think.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 02:50:03
January 14 2009 02:48 GMT
#271
Saddles is my hero. This thread has everything in it. Past vs Present, old culture vs new culture, a glimpse into foreigner history, nostalgia, tales of past glorys. Glorious returns, humiliating returns. This is awesome.

I don't know much about 2004 sc and I respect all the players from the past but damnnn...FE wasn't invented, July didn't invent muta micro, Savior didn't invent defilers, and Bisu had not yet invented sairs and pylons. It must be a cripplingly humble experience for the OP playing on iccup. I only hope that this does not discourage him for good and that he can make a triumphant comeback.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
January 14 2009 02:54 GMT
#272
I'm kind of in limbo between disbelief and awe that this guy taught JF and Nony. He is like single handily responsible for some of the better foreign protosses out there.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
reachfortherings
Profile Joined January 2009
63 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 03:28:49
January 14 2009 03:00 GMT
#273
--- Nuked ---
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 03:04:39
January 14 2009 03:02 GMT
#274
He doesnt play terran so i dont think itll be that big of a deal honestly.

He wont have to deal with the shock that is muta micro and hive play. PvT is roughly the same, PvZ is better now for toss, pvp will probably be a bit hard though.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
ProberoO
Profile Joined November 2008
United States88 Posts
January 14 2009 03:03 GMT
#275
D: Nony's father? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
The pandabearguy should be in every map.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
January 14 2009 03:04 GMT
#276
hehe, just watched and he is 2-2 and lost to some 45%D+ player :D
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
January 14 2009 03:06 GMT
#277
On January 14 2009 12:02 Sadist wrote:
He doesnt play terran so i dont think itll be that big of a deal honestly.

He wont have to deal with the shock that is muta micro and hive play. PvT is roughly the same, PvZ is better now for toss, pvp will probably be a bit hard though.


What good is PvZ being easier to play if he doesn't know the maps or how it's played.
Moderator<:3-/-<
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
January 14 2009 03:09 GMT
#278
On January 14 2009 11:48 Warrior Madness wrote:
Saddles is my hero. This thread has everything in it. Past vs Present, old culture vs new culture, a glimpse into foreigner history, nostalgia, tales of past glorys. Glorious returns, humiliating returns. This is awesome.

I don't know much about 2004 sc and I respect all the players from the past but damnnn...FE wasn't invented, July didn't invent muta micro, Savior didn't invent defilers, and Bisu had not yet invented sairs and pylons. It must be a cripplingly humble experience for the OP playing on iccup. I only hope that this does not discourage him for good and that he can make a triumphant comeback.


Bisu invented sairs and pylons O.o, are you shitting me lol
OMG you nasty gurl
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
January 14 2009 03:11 GMT
#279
On January 14 2009 12:06 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2009 12:02 Sadist wrote:
He doesnt play terran so i dont think itll be that big of a deal honestly.

He wont have to deal with the shock that is muta micro and hive play. PvT is roughly the same, PvZ is better now for toss, pvp will probably be a bit hard though.


What good is PvZ being easier to play if he doesn't know the maps or how it's played.



its not like he cant learn, just get the FE down and play smart. Obviously hes not going to be beating great players or anything, but he can get better eventually.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4522 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 03:12:53
January 14 2009 03:12 GMT
#280
its not hard to come back...point is that the OP was never a good player like he claims to be.

I came back earlier in 2008 while I quit in 2005 and placed top16 TSL with 2 months play. If the OP was as good as he says he was, he could get similar results easily. But he was never good.
Team Liquid
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 153
Mind 98
GoRush 85
yabsab 37
Hm[arnc] 27
Bale 23
NotJumperer 15
League of Legends
JimRising 643
Counter-Strike
summit1g11384
Other Games
Hui .304
KnowMe119
RuFF_SC253
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream6327
Other Games
gamesdonequick785
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream338
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 47
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH338
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1488
• Stunt473
• HappyZerGling148
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3h 5m
GSL
4h 5m
Maru vs Reynor
Lambo vs Solar
IPSL
8h 5m
Hawk vs Julia
Patches Events
9h 5m
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
11h 5m
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
16h 5m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 3h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 8h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
5 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6 days
Douyu Cup 2020
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light HT
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.