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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
January 14 2009 01:58 GMT
#261
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 14 2009 02:00 GMT
#262
On January 14 2009 10:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
iNcontroL what do you remember about his skill level?


saddles was a decent and strong protoss but not quite what he is saying now hehe

He was an awesome clan mate however and he did really help JF/Nony and others. That much deserves respect.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
January 14 2009 02:03 GMT
#263
On January 14 2009 10:57 Jono wrote:
How can you teach someone SC... "yea.. you're gonna wanna build a pylon now"

You can explain how the game works, how the matchups work, what you are doing wrong etcetc.

Saying you can't teach someone SC is like saying you can't teach someone Chess, or hell, a language.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 14 2009 02:04 GMT
#264
People are able to teach eachother much more abstract things than starcraft which is a perfectly logical, rational, if-then game.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
January 14 2009 02:15 GMT
#265
Wow was not aware that JF actually posted here on TL.
Hi.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
January 14 2009 02:16 GMT
#266
Also I haven't played in a few months but I'm confident I could beat him with either of my off races.
Hi.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3350 Posts
January 14 2009 02:19 GMT
#267
He ended up with 97-105 (48%) (5894 - C+) with sMi.Saddles in August, 2006. He is decent I would assume but not as amazing as he describes himself.
김택용 Fighting!
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
January 14 2009 02:23 GMT
#268
he says he wants to go pro.. LOL
SNSD fan
reachfortherings
Profile Joined January 2009
63 Posts
January 14 2009 02:28 GMT
#269
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
January 14 2009 02:46 GMT
#270
lol this is awesome i can't wait to see what his rec will be and when / if he resets out of frustration. zvp is totally, completely, utterly different than 4 years ago its hilarious, actually same with all the mus, if he gets to anywhere near B- he will likely just get completely wrecked, but i bet he doesn't get that far. i think the thing people underestimate most right now is the skill jumps from C to B, its really way, way larger a gap in level than people think.
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 02:50:03
January 14 2009 02:48 GMT
#271
Saddles is my hero. This thread has everything in it. Past vs Present, old culture vs new culture, a glimpse into foreigner history, nostalgia, tales of past glorys. Glorious returns, humiliating returns. This is awesome.

I don't know much about 2004 sc and I respect all the players from the past but damnnn...FE wasn't invented, July didn't invent muta micro, Savior didn't invent defilers, and Bisu had not yet invented sairs and pylons. It must be a cripplingly humble experience for the OP playing on iccup. I only hope that this does not discourage him for good and that he can make a triumphant comeback.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
January 14 2009 02:54 GMT
#272
I'm kind of in limbo between disbelief and awe that this guy taught JF and Nony. He is like single handily responsible for some of the better foreign protosses out there.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
reachfortherings
Profile Joined January 2009
63 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 03:28:49
January 14 2009 03:00 GMT
#273
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7323 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 03:04:39
January 14 2009 03:02 GMT
#274
He doesnt play terran so i dont think itll be that big of a deal honestly.

He wont have to deal with the shock that is muta micro and hive play. PvT is roughly the same, PvZ is better now for toss, pvp will probably be a bit hard though.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
ProberoO
Profile Joined November 2008
United States88 Posts
January 14 2009 03:03 GMT
#275
D: Nony's father? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
The pandabearguy should be in every map.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
January 14 2009 03:04 GMT
#276
hehe, just watched and he is 2-2 and lost to some 45%D+ player :D
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
January 14 2009 03:06 GMT
#277
On January 14 2009 12:02 Sadist wrote:
He doesnt play terran so i dont think itll be that big of a deal honestly.

He wont have to deal with the shock that is muta micro and hive play. PvT is roughly the same, PvZ is better now for toss, pvp will probably be a bit hard though.


What good is PvZ being easier to play if he doesn't know the maps or how it's played.
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Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
January 14 2009 03:09 GMT
#278
On January 14 2009 11:48 Warrior Madness wrote:
Saddles is my hero. This thread has everything in it. Past vs Present, old culture vs new culture, a glimpse into foreigner history, nostalgia, tales of past glorys. Glorious returns, humiliating returns. This is awesome.

I don't know much about 2004 sc and I respect all the players from the past but damnnn...FE wasn't invented, July didn't invent muta micro, Savior didn't invent defilers, and Bisu had not yet invented sairs and pylons. It must be a cripplingly humble experience for the OP playing on iccup. I only hope that this does not discourage him for good and that he can make a triumphant comeback.


Bisu invented sairs and pylons O.o, are you shitting me lol
OMG you nasty gurl
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7323 Posts
January 14 2009 03:11 GMT
#279
On January 14 2009 12:06 IntoTheWow wrote:
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On January 14 2009 12:02 Sadist wrote:
He doesnt play terran so i dont think itll be that big of a deal honestly.

He wont have to deal with the shock that is muta micro and hive play. PvT is roughly the same, PvZ is better now for toss, pvp will probably be a bit hard though.


What good is PvZ being easier to play if he doesn't know the maps or how it's played.



its not like he cant learn, just get the FE down and play smart. Obviously hes not going to be beating great players or anything, but he can get better eventually.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4514 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-14 03:12:53
January 14 2009 03:12 GMT
#280
its not hard to come back...point is that the OP was never a good player like he claims to be.

I came back earlier in 2008 while I quit in 2005 and placed top16 TSL with 2 months play. If the OP was as good as he says he was, he could get similar results easily. But he was never good.
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