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Blizzard.com New game announcement? - Page 23
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
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Vedic
United States582 Posts
On June 26 2008 07:43 Constantinius wrote: Please, WoW revenue isn't declining, they just had their best Q4 ever. Some of you people are pretty misinformed - any YoY or MoM decline is either due to seasonality, OR the lack of release of expansions. They are growing as strongly as they ever have. You're just plain wrong, but I'd love to see where you got your incorrect information. By all means... | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On June 26 2008 07:43 Constantinius wrote: Please, WoW revenue isn't declining, they just had their best Q4 ever. Some of you people are pretty misinformed - any YoY or MoM decline is either due to seasonality, OR the lack of release of expansions. They are growing as strongly as they ever have. While I agree WoW is expanding at a large rate, so is the MMO market in general. For Blizzard to maintain their massive market share they need to release a new game. http://www.mmogchart.com/ is the only reliable data on this. One of his conclusions on the MMO scene in general is that expansions don't increase growth rate, they merely sustain it. Some people will simply dislike wow, for whatever reason, and will never play it. To maintain their market share they need to release a new game before the old one dies out. What a way to put a dent in the WAR and AoC hype than to announce a new awesome MMO. P.S. I also play TBC in Sunwell and I agree with the guy that says PvE is constantly improving. Every new instance is pretty much better than the old one. MC was a joke compared to the smoothness of Sunwell. WotlK will definitely be another step up. | ||
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Constantinius
United States64 Posts
The company reported Q4 revenues of EUR 6,014 million (USD 8.9 million) compared to EUR 5,545 million (USD 8.2 million) for the same period of the prior year. Vivendi's performance was roughly in line with analyst forecasts. It said that it expected net adjusted earnings to reach approximately EUR 2.8 billion (USD 4.14 billion) in 2007. Although Q4 revenue for the Vivendi Games division was down 4.4 per cent [seasonality], the division's total revenue for the year exceeded EUR 1 billion for the first time ever - an increase of 33.5 per cent from 2006. The increase was attributed to Blizzard Entertainment, as revenues from Sierra Entertainment, Sierra Online and Vivendi Games Mobile were down from the prior year. Vivendi noted the impact of unfavourable currency exchange movements upon these business segments. In 2007, Blizzard's World of Warcraft reached over 10 million subscribers. The company also released the first World of Warcraft expansion - The Burning Crusade - during the first quarter." | ||
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
"Vivendi Games Q1 revenue down 24.1 per cent Vivendi reported Q1 2008 earnings showing revenue from Vivendi Games down 24.1 per cent from the same period of the prior year. Blizzard Entertainment's revenues were EUR 192 million (USD 296.97 million) - nearly 87 per cent of the total EUR 221 million (USD 341.8 million) in revenues for Vivendi Games. The company reported that two million incremental World of Warcraft subscribers were added when compared to March of 2007, including more than 700,000 new players added in the first quarter of 2008. Vivendi indicated that a comparison of Q1 2007 and Q1 2008 performances would not be representative, however, because Q1 2007 included the release of World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade. World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King, the second expansion, is scheduled to be released in the second half of 2008. Parent company Vivendi reported Q1 revenues of EUR 5.3 billion (USD 8.19 billion), up 5.2 per cent from the same period of the prior year. Net income, however, fell 9.6 per cent to EUR 697 million (USD 1.077 billion). Vivendi confirmed its overall outlook for 2008, expecting to deliver a profit growth similar to 2007." | ||
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Constantinius
United States64 Posts
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lesser_good
Canada698 Posts
On June 26 2008 07:46 Equinox_kr wrote: Uhh probably already posted but doesn't the black part in the center look like the Lich King torso? There's a small part of the jewel in there and if you picture it you can see the Lich King helm that Arthas dons after the last episode of TFT. Yeah, I'm not gonna read 22 pages i really cant see it no matter how hard i try | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
On June 26 2008 08:19 lesser_good wrote: i really cant see it no matter how hard i try This must be a new Magic Eye. Which picture are you talking about Equinox_kr?? | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On June 26 2008 08:17 Constantinius wrote: So basically Vedic is unequivocally wrong, on all counts. Yeah pretty much, he couldn't be more wrong if he tried. | ||
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Diude
Canada124 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart1_files/Subscriptions_8846_image001.png) Source: http://www.mmogchart.com/ guess what will happen when WotLK comes out? | ||
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Ziph
Netherlands970 Posts
On June 26 2008 06:32 Nintu wrote: You're just wrong. Very Wrong. I played WoW as an addict for months. I got into Arena pvp and raiding. You sound like one of those kids who's casual guild couldn't down Karazhan, so the guild disbanded and you quit WoW thinking that TBC Sucks. I played before and after the Expansion and the Burning crusade was the best thing that has ever happened to WoW. The raid encounters are better designed, more difficult, and more fun in general. Compare Gruul and Mag to Onyxia... Compare TK to BWL... 'nuff said. The only reason I don't still play is because the game is simply TOO good. It has more potential than ever to ruin people's lives. Why? Because it's way, way, way, way too fun. WoW was at 5 million active subscribers before expansion, and I do recall them reaching 9 million at some point after. I don't know current numbers, but TBC nearly doubled the active WoW community, made it more addictive than ever, and added an intense PvP system which now allows broadcasting Arena tournaments with prizes. Don't forget the earnings they get from the special Arena server they created which thousands of people signed up for. Anyone who is afraid of D3 being an MMO is just blindly prejudice. Maybe you had a friend who got Addicted to WoW. Maybe you tried it, got to level 18 or 46, got bored and quit. The fact is, When you reach the top level in WoW, and start Raiding and PvPing, it is stupidly addictive and fun. WoW is the best mmo out there by a longshot because Blizzard is capable of supporting and adding to it. If D3 is an MMO, I'm certain it will be a fucking incredible one. The only issue I can see people having is the Pay-to-play, which I somewhat agree with. Nobody likes to pay to play, but if the game is as amazing as WoW, and requires as much support and technical maintanence, then I have no issued paying monthly. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH '-.- tbc made the game suck yes there is gosu arena esports now i like that allot about it but its not nearly as fun as it was before tbc. | ||
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Vedic
United States582 Posts
On June 26 2008 08:17 Constantinius wrote: So basically Vedic is unequivocally wrong, on all counts. Or you didn't read it correctly, as it fully defended EVERYTHING I have just been saying. 200-300 million dollar income - when 10,000,000 subscriptions, plus product sales, plus other IP sales, plus additional income would come out more than $150,000,000 higher. | ||
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Beardfish
United States525 Posts
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mel_ee
2450 Posts
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Belial-
United States132 Posts
On June 26 2008 09:04 Vedic wrote: Or you didn't read it correctly, as it fully defended EVERYTHING I have just been saying. 200-300 million dollar income - when 10,000,000 subscriptions, plus product sales, plus other IP sales, plus additional income would come out more than $150,000,000 higher. Income comes after expenses. | ||
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Cobalt
United States441 Posts
On June 26 2008 09:22 Belial- wrote: Income comes after expenses. I don't know much about strict economic lingo, but here's what I've been assuming: Revenue/Income = all money gained Expenses = all money spent Profit = Revenue minus Expenses If what you're saying is true, then perhaps others were thinking what I was thinking, causing some misunderstandings. | ||
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SoleSteeler
Canada5472 Posts
And to those who say WoW classic raiding was better, what a lovely example of nostalgia at work  | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Quesadilla
United States1814 Posts
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Vedic
United States582 Posts
Income comes after expenses. In which language? | ||
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