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nepeta
1872 Posts
To start: The Netherlands (Holland if it's wearing orange) Last year the national assembly voted a law, providing school books free of charge to all middle-schoolers. There was, however, no money (or it had been spent on some troop carriers/joint strike fighters already), so they financed it with... Trafic Fines. Trafic Fines. Trafic Fines...  | ||
Waxangel
United States33472 Posts
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
fucking bitch, euros are worth more than dollars. fucking bitch, its 4 bucks a gallon for gas FUCKING BITCH CALIFORNIA ALLOWED GAY MARRIAGE | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:04 imBLIND wrote: stfu kidFUCKING BITCH CALIFORNIA ALLOWED GAY MARRIAGE | ||
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Ozarugold
2716 Posts
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
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GTR
51492 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:07 KrAzYfoOL wrote: Australia has shitty internet. | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
Dumbass president and the beef situation boo! | ||
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suxN
Finland1167 Posts
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
Yesterday our goverment passed a law that will allow the "FRA" them to tap all the cable traffic passing our borders. Thats most of our email, msn/irc- conversations, phone calls, text messages and basicly everything we do on the internet  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_National_Defence_Radio_Establishment | ||
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MaReK
Australia446 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
lol @ guy whining about gay marriage. | ||
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Quesadilla
United States1814 Posts
eh, not stoked either. Texas! Fattest place in the world. -________- lol sucks for Sweden ^^^^^^ | ||
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:04 imBLIND wrote: thank god bush is leaving soon fucking bitch, euros are worth more than dollars. fucking bitch, its 4 bucks a gallon for gas FUCKING BITCH CALIFORNIA ALLOWED GAY MARRIAGE my country is full of retards who actually worry that gay marriage is bad, like the guy above me. oh and fuck bush btw. | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
Don't like Korea's mandatory service and that study study study study pressure | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
holyshit if you're gonna have a tax bracket that taxes so much at least set it high everyone and their kid brother can make like 300k now so fuck that | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:23 il0seonpurpose wrote: America's pretty fat Don't like Korea's mandatory service and that study study study study pressure Ohh yeah that pisses me off. I need go to the military too...soon. And the studying thing is sooooooo messed up. All kids do is study and they come home maddddd late from hakwon. Fix your fucking education system idiots. | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:04 imBLIND wrote: thank god bush is leaving soon fucking bitch, euros are worth more than dollars. fucking bitch, its 4 bucks a gallon for gas FUCKING BITCH CALIFORNIA ALLOWED GAY MARRIAGE 4 bucks? Its almost 9 in Sweden :e | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:09 clazziquai wrote: To Korea: Dumbass president and the beef situation boo! Happy birthday  | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
yeah but doesn't your government also socialize a ton of stuff we have to usually pay for? school, healthcare etc. fuck high taxes and fuck high gas prices. | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:28 Myxomatosis wrote: yeah but doesn't your government also socialize a ton of stuff we have to usually pay for? school, healthcare etc. fuck high taxes and fuck high gas prices. That is true. Still cant see how you can complain about gas @ 4 bucks. Thats nothing. High taxes rule btw. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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warding
Portugal2394 Posts
Bitter and unhappy people; no economic growth in the past 7 years; shit wages; short women; dog poo all over the streets; terrible terrible architecture; average adult was only in school for 6 years. ...while I'm at it... England (where I now live): Ugly, skanky chicks; cockney accents; fucking depressing weather; CCTV; tabloid culture; everything on TV apart from comedy and Top Gear; best football league in the world yet English players BLOW; having to wear a jacket in June; the expression "focken 'ell!"; class consciousness; all girls wear the same clothes; chicks who englishmen consider hot are not hot, they just have big tits; smells of fart in every club, bar or pub. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:26 ._. wrote: Christians.Rednecks.And shitty shitty music from MTV, and also a trashy modern culture of superficiality. | ||
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Yuljan
2196 Posts
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Spike
United States1392 Posts
oh and On June 19 2008 16:22 MyLostTemple wrote: my country is full of retards who actually worry that gay marriage is bad oh and fuck bush btw. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
-our media organizations are completely shallow and inept ( i envy britain with its BBCnews so badly) -our populace was dumb enough to elect stephen harper and the conservatives -we pretty much lag behind the progressive european nations in every conceivable way | ||
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Telemako
Spain1636 Posts
Fucking unbelievable, go back 20 years, yeah!!! | ||
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
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Dyllyn
Singapore670 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:25 clazziquai wrote: Ohh yeah that pisses me off. I need go to the military too...soon. And the studying thing is sooooooo messed up. All kids do is study and they come home maddddd late from hakwon. Fix your fucking education system idiots. Hey koreans don't complain.. Singapore has a retarded amount of pressure to study, mandatory national service at 18, fucking bad weather AND no starcraft channels so you don't know how much better it is for you | ||
zatic
Zurich15355 Posts
As a result, every week we move further towards both a great nanny state and a surveillance and suppression regime. And everyone is happy with it. EDIT: Awesome thread! EDIT2: I need more Germans whining here to prove my point. Go! | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:02 Telemako wrote: Europe is turning to the right and my country is doing nothing against, it's even giving their votes to those retards. The last two european union bullshits about to get approved are: you can put in jail an illegal inmigrant for 18 months without charges (and other mad shit to deal with inmigration) and they want to extend the work week to 65 hours. Fucking unbelievable, go back 20 years, yeah!!! 65 hours!? 13 hours 5 days a week? Are you sure you dont mean 45 hours? | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On the one hand, they think they know everything and govern "against" the people without ever considering what the people actually want (there were exactly two referendums and not a single public opinion poll since 1945!). They even change the constitution quite often, giving constitutional status to minor laws so that they can't be overturned by the constitutional court. On the other hand, they don't have the balls to stand up against anything the EU dictates at all. They'd rather have their own people suffocate from transit than lose reputation on the international level, costing us our last bit of influence. | ||
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
Well sucks for university students like myself. I'm broke, not only myself but my family. Our income only is not enough to pay tuition and books and all that jazz. Student loans from my province give me only so much and the rest they expect me to pay. To do that, I need to work full-time all year long which means my grades can't be as good as a student with free time. There's so many factors that they just don't give a ish about. Just wish they didn't make the "student loan" shit so optimistic; "You can go to university without financial troubles! We are giving you an opportunity" So I take whatever little they give me, barely get time to study to pay for the rest of the bills and I'm behind often because of that. That makes me worried because I have to worry about getting into programs that I want to get the future job I want to make the money and connections I want. Without academic improvement, I feel like I'm stuck and will finish poorly with a large debt. Why can't they just provide the money upfront, help me with maximum assistance. If they aren't going to do so, then fucking say so from the start. Fucking morons. (Loans for STUDENTS, is not something that should include small print and shit that no body ever reads anyway. Why would you, the government want to fuck over your young students.) | ||
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Hans-Titan
Denmark1711 Posts
Sucky, sucky government messing up our welfare, by cutting shit left and right. The fact that the Danish peoples party account for 1/7th of all votes, meaning that there are way too many rascists in this country. The fact that we actually have a website promoting the nature of our country, despite it being the most dull thing on earth. After having our embassy bombed people have now gone american in our fear of terrorism: I really thought we were smarter. The thing that annoys me the most is probably everyones fancy of the absolutely awful music/films: as long as it off some big american movie-slash-music company, it's sure to be quality right? -.-; | ||
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d.arkive
United States843 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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x_woof_x
United States659 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:25 d.arkive wrote: Crappy public transportation depends where in the states you live. | ||
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
Great my arse!! I see the Americans complaining about Petrol/Diesel prices, ever been to the UK at all? We Pay £1.30 per litre for Petrol. Works out as $11 per gallon. Pretty expensive? Quite a few foreigners and illegal immigrants are now descending to the UK now, far too many in people’s eyes. They all want come to the UK because we're soft as hell. "Welcome to the UK, we will provide you accommodation, free health care, a job and free education" It's a joke! You seen how many Poles/Lithuanians and other Eastern European people now working in the UK? No offence guys, but it’s true! We give asylum to certain people, who then criticise the UK, excuse me? We gave you a better life from the shithole you came from and now your preaching to people about killing British Citizens and criticising the way British People live? Very strange! Tax and VAT is a major problem here too! It’s ridiculous how much Tax we pay on Clothes, Petrol, Alcohol, Cigarettes and so on. | ||
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eugene17
Singapore174 Posts
super corrupt politicians with their huge cars and huge mansions. our little president prick is killing journalists (she will go to the depths of hell). getting her propaganda working with ads and campaigns telling the public that her term was the best. fucking terrorists down south is keeping tourists away. huge taxes eating my salary and yet they don't account anything. school's expensive and only a small portion of the population can afford to do so. heat of day is killing my skin. sudden tropical rains are so weird. 2nd rate citizen in your own country. fake security checks on your bags everytime you go anywhere. GAS IS EXPENSIVE dependence on foreign oil. largest importer of rice in the world. natural resources are getting lambasted. werid culture wherein if you work hard or go work to a different country everybody in your clan would depend on you. pseudo conservative beliefs. third world country we have great beaches though! | ||
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iori_LT
Lithuania675 Posts
Probably the most retarded government ever last time statistics showed that only 5% of ppl believe in them... how retarded is that?And yeah... fuck this shitty depressing weather... | ||
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Telemako
Spain1636 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:21 DrainX wrote: 65 hours!? 13 hours 5 days a week? Are you sure you dont mean 45 hours? Oficial press release new cap for workers who opt-out if inactive on-call time is counted as working time: maximum working week of 65 hours | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13290 Posts
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iori_LT
Lithuania675 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:44 RowdierBob wrote: It's Winter here and Winter is gay. dude u haven't seen REAL winters | ||
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Doctorasul
Romania1145 Posts
Average wage - €400 (maybe €600 in Bucharest) (I'm being very generous) Crummy 2 bedroom flat to rent in Bucharest - €500 Crummy 2 bedroom flat to buy in Bucharest - €100k NSFW result - I'm 24 and still living with my parents: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i30.tinypic.com/295e7uq.jpg) | ||
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Fen
Australia1848 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:07 KrAzYfoOL wrote: Australia has shitty internet. QFT | ||
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Alizee-
United States845 Posts
FUCK the cities and states that try to deny rights of citizens because they think they're a seperate country FUCK the government for spinning everything around when it comes to their contract with the people FUCK the soccer moms in huge ass suvs flying through neighborhoods on the LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD! FUCK all this flooding FUCK our biased media machine of bullshit that makes up whatever they wanna make up FUCK the 2 party system FUCK the suburbanites who care about nothing other than a green lawn and a white plastic fence FUCK! | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
Politicians are supposed to REPRESENT the people you assholes. Food prices are going up and we can't do anything about it atm. Deal between main store I assume. | ||
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gakkgakk
Norway902 Posts
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:21 DrainX wrote: 65 hours!? 13 hours 5 days a week? Are you sure you dont mean 45 hours? it's 65, fuck this shit | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:15 DrainX wrote: To Sweden: Yesterday our goverment passed a law that will allow the "FRA" them to tap all the cable traffic passing our borders. Thats most of our email, msn/irc- conversations, phone calls, text messages and basicly everything we do on the internet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_National_Defence_Radio_Establishment This. I fucking hate the fact that our government is so retarded it's almost painful, can't wait till i'm out of this piece of shit country. Swedish democracy, what a joke... | ||
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Dosed
Australia47 Posts
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pangshai
Chinatown5333 Posts
On June 19 2008 18:38 Dosed wrote: Well at least they are doing something about it, I couldn't say that much for a lot of other countries issues. Internet in aus was unbearable a couple years back, now ADSL2++ is fairly good. I don't know how bad it was a couple of years back, but its still pretty shitty now. | ||
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Konni
Germany3044 Posts
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Dosed
Australia47 Posts
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araav
Armenia1590 Posts
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poilord
Germany3252 Posts
On June 19 2008 18:52 Konni wrote: 44% of my income is taken away for taxes. Fuck that. | ||
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
nah, nothing to bash | ||
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Latham
9564 Posts
POLAND: -FUCK polititans!!!! Idiots stealing money and doing nothing and I mean NOTHING to develop the country! -FUCK the over religious population! VOTE HOW YOU WANT NOT HOW YOUR PASTOR WANTS YOU TO VOTE! -FUCK all of you corrupted employees and ministers! If you want to get somewhere in reasonably fast you give an envelope! -FUCK the poverty level in Poland. Fuck us having to go to other countries to work for a living and being seen as a sort of plague! -FUCK the youth of this country that is so vulgar that they replace commas periods and exclamation marks with "kurwa" in every sentance. -FUCK the crime level! If you want the police to feel safe in your town vote for [random-party]. -FUCK everyone's favourite passtime being beer/vodka/whiskey. -FUCK our president for sucking Bush's dick all the time! -FUCK the internet providers in this country! SCAMS SCAMS SCAMS and if not then RIPPING OFF big time. -FUCK the retarded school system that can't take care of vandalism in schools. -FUCK the salary level ! ok now for BELGIUM: -FUCK the weather! 2 days of sunshine and 5 days of rain a week! -FUCK the ugly girls! Or on second thought no, don't fuck them, they're too ugly for that too. -FUCK Brussels for having different flavours of strikes paralizing the city communication on a fucking MONTHLY BASIS. -FUCK you Belgians for blocking Brussels yesterday becuase of high gas prices. I got news for you: OTHER COUNTIRES HAVE IT WORSE! -FUCK the gouvernement that couldn't get along for over 200+ days! -FUCK some people that work in some places. When I go to the store I talk in English/French and you're responding back to me with hollish! That should sum it up nicely. Hope I won't get banned for this rant. I'm done now. | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
Thats just sick ._. Who would want to work 13 hours a day? Id rather be a bum ;( On June 19 2008 18:35 grobo wrote: This. I fucking hate the fact that our government is so retarded it's almost painful, can't wait till i'm out of this piece of shit country. Swedish democracy, what a joke... Yeah I was in stockholm demonstrating outside the riksdagshuset. Apparently the opinion of the people doesnt matter much in our so called democrazy. Even our own SÄPO(security police (FBI)) said it was a bad idea. Something has to be upside down when the security police are the ones trying to defend democrazy :S | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=72635 | ||
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
and they dont sell sennheiser headphones here wttttffffff. | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
Our interior minister is the biggest piece of shit ever, he wants something called "online surveillance", meaning police access to peoples' computers. You can probably guess why, he says it's for better protection against terrorists etc... always the same bullshit. Fear of terror = more surveillance. This basically means installing trojans on peoples' computers. Or wiretapping hardware. Apart from the fact that it'll never work with people who know how to prevent stuff like this (including criminals), it would also introduce major security issues (other people getting access, abuse, etc...). This guy is just plain mad, but apparently you can get away with a lot when you mention it's just protection from terrorism. Everyone hates that man, and he should have been fired long ago for even mentioning something as anti-democratic as this, but he's always continuing this discussion. Also, the music and film industry are lobbying like mad because they're dying and they want to blame it all on the customers and filesharers instead of adjusting to the new situation (people want easy downloads, free of DRM and in a common format like MP3). They want the ISPs to act as some kind of "net police" who cut net access for filesharers and stuff like that. They also want easier access to customer data from the ISPs. Basically, the industry wants to play police. Same situation as in many other countries. Most ISPs don't want to do that though. There are also a few good things happening, for example the cancellation of study costs (sp?). But nearly everything that has to do with communication/computers/internet is completely going down the drain, and we're slowly heading towards a surveillance state because of the oh-so-dangerous terrorism. If you ask me, the terrorism has already won over us, because our politicians are scared as shit (or at least they act like it) and restrict our freedom even more. Terrorists don't even have to do anything anymore. We're fucked. | ||
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kroko
Finland2136 Posts
Only toothless canadiens have it also....omg... | ||
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kroko
Finland2136 Posts
With that high tax% u must make like 10k/month, stop complaining ![[image loading]](http://images.uncyc.org/commons/2/24/Hikipedia.png) | ||
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Skew
United States1019 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:22 MyLostTemple wrote: my country is full of retards who actually worry that gay marriage is bad, like the guy above me. 2nd that, live and let live. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
hmmmm, well my country is the states if anyone asked me but it may be more intersting if I bashed Japan? edit: but I do that alllll the time. | ||
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Krzycho
Poland442 Posts
On June 19 2008 19:09 Latham wrote: Ok here we go: POLAND: -FUCK polititans!!!! Idiots stealing money and doing nothing and I mean NOTHING to develop the country! -FUCK the over religious population! VOTE HOW YOU WANT NOT HOW YOUR PASTOR WANTS YOU TO VOTE! -FUCK all of you corrupted employees and ministers! If you want to get somewhere in reasonably fast you give an envelope! -FUCK the poverty level in Poland. Fuck us having to go to other countries to work for a living and being seen as a sort of plague! -FUCK the youth of this country that is so vulgar that they replace commas periods and exclamation marks with "kurwa" in every sentance. -FUCK the crime level! If you want the police to feel safe in your town vote for [random-party]. -FUCK everyone's favourite passtime being beer/vodka/whiskey. -FUCK our president for sucking Bush's dick all the time! -FUCK the internet providers in this country! SCAMS SCAMS SCAMS and if not then RIPPING OFF big time. -FUCK the retarded school system that can't take care of vandalism in schools. -FUCK the salary level ! That should sum it up nicely. Hope I won't get banned for this rant. I'm done now. btw. Polish people going to Uk are usually with almost no education (those guys who destroy things on streets, write stupid comments on walls etc.) or highly educated people who don't do anything wrong. | ||
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
Suicide rates are in world top3, alcohol consumption and overweight rate as well somewhere in the top10 (I mean 6 million out of 10 being overweight? Talk about healthy!) The lack of real winter with real slow for extended amount of time the past few years is disturbing. The massively, massively hot summer lately sucks just as much (I'm not FUCKING used to walk around in pants @ summer and still sweat like a fucking HORSE.) Oh and last but not least, FUCK this city (Pécs) so FUCKING boring. I'm so glad tomorrow is the last day I spend on uni here, god. | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:00 nepeta wrote: Last year the national assembly voted a law, providing school books free of charge to all middle-schoolers. There was, however, no money (or it had been spent on some troop carriers/joint strike fighters already), so they financed it with... Trafic Fines. Trafic Fines. Trafic Fines... That's the good part of that arrangement. The bad part is that schools are now forced to use certain books. Teachers can't use the books they prefer or they think are best. | ||
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:20 NeoIllusions wrote: Uh, Australia has a fly situation? lol @ guy whining about gay marriage. Where have you been for the past bloody 200+ years when we were colonized, flies are like rabbits! | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
All because of gay marriage in Cali. I would be angry too. They're fucked! | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27154 Posts
About Canada, I wish we would stop being such pussies with the Americans and stand up for ourselves. I wish such a huge country of only 35 million would have a better idea of community. I wish that politicians would listen to their public and legalize what should be common sense and ban what should eb common sense. But now I live in Japan and have no rights at all. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
I love our polder-model government, I like our freedoms, I love it all actually. | ||
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stenole
Norway868 Posts
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OctoPuSs
Canada5279 Posts
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LordofToast
United Kingdom250 Posts
To make matters worse Virgin Media have also started monitoring peoples traffic and cutting off people suspected of dowloading copywrited material. Without any solid proof. This is just to protect their own interests as they also own a large record label. On a bigger scale the British Phonographic Society is trying to push a law through Government making it manditory for ISPs to monitor internet traffice and cut off any suspected offenders. This would no doubt increase the cost of broadband and more importantly be a severe breach of the Data Protection Act. Anyway really what I'm really saying is the Government doesnt give two shits about the voters or freedom of information but tries to appease the jurrassic record companies that have no place in this digital age of free distribution. | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On June 19 2008 20:20 Manifesto7 wrote: But now I live in Japan and have no rights at all. Seriously? is it really that bad in Japan? Maybe i was misinformed but i heard it was pretty good over there. | ||
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lakrismamma
Sweden543 Posts
I hate the sucky winters with no sunlight, everyone gets depressed and our suicide rate goes up. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
this is all while fucking white cunts stand around me doing absolutely shit and get pay 4 times more than me!~ oh now china 1. stupid oversea students (just the stupid ones) 2. corrupt fat fucks that travel on government money and shit on everything they touch (literally) 3. dirty fucking air 4. fucking oilly food. 5. retards for parents. 6. Pretentious beijingers and annoying shanghainess 7. crappy trains. 8. public toilet. 9. relatives. 10. ability to produce faggots such as you know who on this forum. | ||
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paper
13196 Posts
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ChaoSbringer
Australia1382 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:07 KrAzYfoOL wrote: Australia has shitty internet. | ||
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DhakhaR
United Kingdom721 Posts
trains that cant drive over a small pebble without breaking down. or crashing into each other. loads of your talented people move to america. 50% of TV ads are "have you been injured in the past 12 months? laywers4u can help..." our priminister doesnt know what hes doing. rain. having to wait for games to be released half a year after america/japan. the congestion charge. but most of all: THE HEALTH AND SAFETY EPIDEMIC | ||
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3819 Posts
not cool : ( every third program on TV is about kids flipping off policemen and just looking like tards. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:37 NeoIllusions wrote: I laugh a little every time Americans complain about the gas prices. Granted it's pretty bad compared to the previous couple of years but it's not worth whining about when you do the exchange rates and see what most European countries are forking over at the pump. It's all about perspective I suppose. pretty sure most europeans don't drive 40 miles a day like i had to do through all of high school. america's really spread out compared to most of europe and i'd be the average miles driven for an american is more than that of a european. oh also i'm $21000 in debt because i have to pay for my own college, and i'm 19 years old. i think americans have a right to complain about it given the circumstances. but i take the bus, so i don't give a shit | ||
micronesia
United States24725 Posts
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Bozali
Sweden155 Posts
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Makhno
Sweden585 Posts
The worst thing going on in Sweden in recent times is the state selling out alot of welfare-based companies. I mean competition is something that belongs in the market, with products and shit, not schools competing for students or hospitals competing for patients. Thats just morbid. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32083 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:04 imBLIND wrote: FUCKING BITCH CALIFORNIA ALLOWED GAY MARRIAGE I hope two buttfuckers move next door to you, fucking homophobe | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
If you're hetero, you should be HAPPY about more homos. Really. | ||
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88)GuMMi
Sweden720 Posts
sweden can sometimes get really boring, if you wanna go out clubbing here you better have your friends with you cuz you most probably won't meet anyone new because everyone wants to be so cool and be at the best places and it's like no one wants to have fun hard to get a place to live also | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8091 Posts
QFT Oh andour government decides to tax alchol by 70%, 70 fucking %, means that a can of whatever at the store used to cost like 2.50$ or so, now costs $5, thank god they didnt tax beer | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
On June 19 2008 21:46 0xDEADBEEF wrote: I'll never understand homophobes, really. Have you thought about the fact that there will be 1 more girl theoretically available for you for 1 less hetero? If you're hetero, you should be HAPPY about more homos. Really.umm... i don't think it works that way... assuming that the proportion of gays and lesbo is equal then it just means less pussies for everyone else. | ||
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
- All youngsters look the same with their "oh look at me i'm a handsome football player"-look - My house got fucking robbed 3 times in one month. The first two were at least decent enough to not take the metal frame of the beds. And what insane person steals my hot sauce stash? My fucking aunt made that you sons of a bitches. Switzerland (where i live) - We have tons of clubs in zurich but everyones playing the same - The music rights organisation is nothing but a blood sucking machine - The banks with their gold digging ignorant egoistic cowards - Racists who act like they run the place - Foreigners who act like they run the place | ||
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
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Agahnim
Netherlands132 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:00 nepeta wrote: There was, however, no money (or it had been spent on some troop carriers/joint strike fighters already), so they financed it with... Trafic Fines. Trafic Fines. Trafic Fines... Got me one yesterday, woohooooo, go dutch police! Go get them speeders! | ||
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asla
Japan354 Posts
i hate the fact that i live in southern finland where the winter kind of tries to be a winter but does not quite cut it. where are the freezing winters i was forced to live in as a child?!? i hate the fact that everything is so expensive. i hate so many finnish people for being so damn cold all the time, but hey i guess i am too since i am a finn. i hate the horrible food that is offered in my university in finland. i hate that its just so boring in finland, life doesnt seem even a bit as entertaining as i would want it to be. hard to think of more, since i am now in an other country. so i will rant about japan, since i study here. i hate that god damn pidgeon that starts making that awful sound every morning next to my window, so that i have to close it and then sweat to death. thats about it. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14899 Posts
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alpskomleko
Slovenia950 Posts
On June 19 2008 18:54 araav wrote: Armenia jaust plainly sucks Noah's route. Your route. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
If their is any tiny mechanical part made by canadians on anything ever built made some dick face canadian will let you know. ie. im at the space agency and Nasa just launched the phoenix lander which cost who knows how many billion, and every fucking canadian news channel did these massive stories - not on the lander but on this tiny weather module that was made by canada. HOLY FUCK WAHOO CANADA WEEEEEEEEEE. Fuck Canada Also this On June 19 2008 20:44 OctoPuSs wrote: I fucking hate everything that has to do with Quebecor Media. Why the fuck couldn't i get sympatico, i had to get some videotron bullshit - sounds like a shitty late 80s Super Nintendo rental place | ||
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V6
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![[image loading]](http://www.royalcourt.se/images/18.38124c3e11488013091800012/07-Kungafamiljen-på-Victorias-födelsedag-Foto-Clas-Göran-Carlsson-stl-500.jpg) hate them | ||
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demonic_phate
United States442 Posts
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TheOvermind77
United States923 Posts
80% idiots 18% smart people who take advantage of idiots 2% smart people who don't make any money | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
Anywho, Romania: Sucks because of low wages and high costs of all the important stuff (except for internet which is basically free). Rent blows, gas costs like $6/gallon (approximately, it's a bit under $2/liter), and a lot of corruption everywhere (and I do mean everywhere, at all levels, no exceptions). I hate most taxi drivers, I hate summers in Bucharest (I have a photo of a street thermometer indicating 56ºC), I hate rush hour traffic, and most of all I hate the high-school generation, made almost entirely of uneducated fuck-heads with IQs matching their shoe-size. However, on the contrary to what most people think, we're not starving, we don't have huge "gypsy problems", the educational system is decent if you really want to learn (especially Medicine, and a few other select Universities), the food is good and the girls are awfully hot. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32083 Posts
On June 19 2008 22:03 Jayson X wrote: Italy - My house got fucking robbed 3 times in one month. The first two were at least decent enough to not take the metal frame of the beds. And what insane person steals my hot sauce stash? My fucking aunt made that you sons of a bitches. LOL, that sucks man, sorry, but it's also quite funny at the same time =p Bed frame and hot sauce, wtf?? some Jersey specific stuff: • NJ roadways are a joke • NJ schools are a joke • College costs a million bucks and probably something like 80% of the teachers shouldn't even have a job. I think this probably is a more wide spread issue than just here. • The cost of living is fucking ridiculous here, since I'm just outside of NYC. • NJ car insurance is still, by a very wide margin, the most expensive bullshit in the States. General country shit: • The War on Drugs. LOL • We're way too involved in world affairs. • We have way too many ass backwards, redneck racist pigs. • Hockey and soccer get shit tv coverage. • Having only two political parties with power is laughable • The electoral college is a sure-fire way to negate your vote. Thankfully I'm a typically-Democratic voter in a blue state, but I feel bad (...to a degree  ) for all the Republicans whose votes don't mean shit here because of the college. We also have a great deal of apathetic assholes.• Health insurance. I don't necessarily think socialized is the answer, but something needs to be fixed. • NCLB and all these other educational mandates suck. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 19 2008 21:06 grobo wrote: Seriously? is it really that bad in Japan? Maybe i was misinformed but i heard it was pretty good over there. My guess is his standard of living is pretty decent, but as a gaijin he doesn't have a say in anything. People covered most of the shit for the US, but I'll throw in every single major politician sucks Israel's cock like there's no tomorrow. It's like 60 years later everyone is still trying to say "sorry about the Holocaust" even though it's completely messing up our national security. On to Michigan: Worst roads in the country Worst economy in the country (Oh wait, Louisiana is doing a bit worse, but it's not like they got SMASHED BY A HURRICANE or something) Our unemployment rates are only going down because people are moving out Retarded governor Retarded mayors The Lions I'm stopping very short. | ||
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
Yea, ffs americans stop whining | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
I'm american (I guess, not my choice to be born here) and even I agree with you two. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
Remember that Americans have a lot further to drive than Swedes. There's a lot of people here that commute 1-2 hours each way to work. | ||
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Passion
Netherlands1486 Posts
this is simply fascist. as if you ll even notice the cigarette smoke with all the exhaust gases. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On June 19 2008 23:02 Hawk wrote: LOL, that sucks man, sorry, but it's also quite funny at the same time =p Bed frame and hot sauce, wtf?? some Jersey specific stuff: • NJ roadways are a joke • NJ schools are a joke • College costs a million bucks and probably something like 80% of the teachers shouldn't even have a job. I think this probably is a more wide spread issue than just here. • The cost of living is fucking ridiculous here, since I'm just outside of NYC. • NJ car insurance is still, by a very wide margin, the most expensive bullshit in the States. General country shit: • The War on Drugs. LOL • We're way too involved in world affairs. • We have way too many ass backwards, redneck racist pigs. • Hockey and soccer get shit tv coverage. • Having only two political parties with power is laughable • The electoral college is a sure-fire way to negate your vote. Thankfully I'm a typically-Democratic voter in a blue state, but I feel bad (...to a degree ) for all the Republicans whose votes don't mean shit here because of the college. We also have a great deal of apathetic assholes.• Health insurance. I don't necessarily think socialized is the answer, but something needs to be fixed. • NCLB and all these other educational mandates suck. I don't live in NJ, so I can't comment on those, but the country shit (in order) : 1) War on Drugs: AGREE haha 2) We're Way Too Involved in World Affairs: AGREE. We need to worry about ourselves for a while. 3) We have way too many ass backwards, redneck racist pigs. We also have way too many ass-sniffing, self-righteous douschebags, but hey who's counting right? 4) Hockey and Soccer get shit tv coverage: Hockey gets alright coverage. I live in southern NY so I get MSG and whatever is the Devil's hockey channel. It's funny to watch Rangers vs. Devil's games and switch back and forth to hear the bias, but compared to other sports I guess it's lacking. And Soccer gets coverage, don't you remember?! FIFA is a video game you can watch on g4 or w/e now, haha. 5) Having only two political parties with power is laughable. There's nothing in the constitution that says there should be only two parties, but it's our fault, the every day person. We forget that we have a vote that doesn't need to go to a certain party, but we associate our views with one of the two major parties typically. For instance, my economic values are conservative, but my social values are more middle road, borderline liberal. I place myself as a Republican, but not all Republicans feel my views are okay, but where else would I go? I certainly wouldn't consider myself a Democrat, they're like whiny little children when they are losing. 6) The electoral college. I think it's a good idea. It protects the minds of the ignorant from pushing votes. Al Gore could have won in 2000, which I wouldn't have wanted. It sucks because I vote Republican in a highly Democratic state, but if you look at New York more closely, the only Democratic areas are only Long Island (recent change from red to blue), NYC, Southern Westchester, Albany, and Rochester//Buffalo. The rest of the state (which is a lot of area) consists of mostly Republican voters, but the numbers do not accumulate to match the amount of people who live in NYC and Long Island. But even though the electoral college seems "unfair," we still have another branch of government that relies on our votes, the Senate and House. We have divided the political structure in such a way to ensure that the people are getting their say somehow. Trust me the system is safer to have the electoral college. I am happy having just the Senate and the House represent me individually. I used to have a Republican Congresswoman (Sue Kelly), but she got herself involved in some BS in 2006 and lost to John Hall, whatever no use crying over that, not like he's ruined us forever. 7) Health Insurance: I agree it's a joke and I can't provide an answer at this time. 8) Educational Mandates: I agree again. ADDING: Anything like Affirmative Action is a load of crap. That's the best solution we could come up with for our 150+ years of torment? Please now look it gets unqualified people into jobs they shouldn't be in, and it's counter-racist against white people and anyone who is qualified for the same job that a minority can get. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On June 19 2008 23:57 Passion wrote: in ten days they re going to ban smoking from bars... but whats worse, they re going to do the same for my entire town's center. hurray. this is simply fascist. as if you ll even notice the cigarette smoke with all the exhaust gases. It's really a good thing that they're doing this. It provides for a better environment in the end, especially for those who don't smoke. | ||
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born-to-porn
Denmark400 Posts
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alpskomleko
Slovenia950 Posts
On June 19 2008 23:57 Passion wrote: in ten days they re going to ban smoking from bars... but whats worse, they re going to do the same for my entire town's center. hurray. this is simply fascist. as if you ll even notice the cigarette smoke with all the exhaust gases. A nationwide smoking ban for most offices, public locations and pubs/clubs has been in effect in Slovenia since last August. I, as a smoker, welcome it. | ||
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zatic
Zurich15355 Posts
On June 20 2008 00:01 born-to-porn wrote: I'd love to make fun of my own country, Denmark, but nobody would care anyway. Nonsene, go bring it on! This is one of the most entertaining threads in a long time. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32083 Posts
lol @ the fifa thing =p I'm the same way, though I lean more on the democratic side. I'm one of the few who isn't all that excited for socialized health care, and I think affirmative action is lame. I don't like racism, but I'm not a bleeding heart loser who likes that the party goes around and blows every minority for a vote. But yeah, like you said, I certainly wouldn't fit in on the red side. I know that the Senate and House rely on those votes. I just kinda wrote that really quick =] I don't know the whole legality to it, but it seems it would just be a lot easier to have the president decided on popular, but keep the representation based on the college? I dunno. I just don't like the concept of not wining despite the popular (no, I'm not a whiney dem Gore supporter. I thought he should have just STFU then) On June 20 2008 00:11 zatic wrote: Nonsene, go bring it on! This is one of the most entertaining threads in a long time. I agree, this thread is fun | ||
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Eti307
Canada3442 Posts
On June 19 2008 22:21 Kennigit wrote: Canada is the most annoying country i have ever lived in (out of 5). For some reason Canadians have this sick complex about NOT being perceived as American so they totally overreact whenever someone canadian does anything. If their is any tiny mechanical part made by canadians on anything ever built made some dick face canadian will let you know. ie. im at the space agency and Nasa just launched the phoenix lander which cost who knows how many billion, and every fucking canadian news channel did these massive stories - not on the lander but on this tiny weather module that was made by canada. HOLY FUCK WAHOO CANADA WEEEEEEEEEE. Fuck Canada Also this Why the fuck couldn't i get sympatico, i had to get some videotron bullshit - sounds like a shitty late 80s Super Nintendo rental place you don't want sympatico either. This is why it sucks here, you basically only have 2 choices, one ran by Quebecor, with nice speed but totally rips you off and the other a bit less expensive, still rip you off but is really slow as well. I wish videotron would have some competitions so they wouldn't make me pay nearly 90$/month for a 100gig limit bandwith (they don't even have unlimited plans) | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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RavenWrath
Germany174 Posts
But It's not cool for me: - that foreigners found sport clubs here where only foreigners are allowed to join. - Or that some foreign girls living in my country are not allowed to date germans. - Or that some people living here for the last 20 years are not even able to speak even one word german. - Or that some kids in school cant follow the teacher because their german is too bad. I hears of classes in which more than 60 % of the students aren't able to speak german properly because their parents come from countries where education is subordinate. I also hate to be called "nazi" for speaking out such thoughts because some older german generation committed unthinkable crimes to humanity. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On June 20 2008 00:12 Hawk wrote: I'm going to borrow the chart from the last page: I agree with the dumbfuck part. Self-righteous whatever I said on the last page includes: -New Yorkers -New Englanders -Any State that touches the pacific ocean. -Any wealthy person from Michigan That leaves... Wisconsin, Illinois, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, and... whatever state is up by Michigan and Wisconsin that I don't really care about because I'll never visit, to make up the logical Americans. I never meant you specifically, in other words.  | ||
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
Thats 3 USD for 1\4 gallon. I can't afford a car while studying, and that sucks. | ||
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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StarN
United States2587 Posts
On June 20 2008 00:14 SCC-Faust wrote: Girls won't have sex with me. lol qft | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:25 d.arkive wrote: Crappy public transportation here too! | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
A country where the president during his campaign can quote Jaures, and de Gaulle and then spent his hollidays on the yacht owned by one of his billionaire friends, and take the decision to move towards full integration with Nato. Moreover our dear president behave like a wannabe pimp: ![[image loading]](http://pix.nofrag.com/2/7/5/23ba53742b0ab7c6ce957655ebbe6.jpg) Scarface[name] KK ? This president got elected by an aging population in a country where "Security" is one of the main issue. People here are self centered, sometimes racist ( every kind of racism ). Youngs are angry because the retirement age is now 65 years and they will have to pay the pensions of the older generations.Our dear president said that he wanted to " donner de la valeur au travail " but inflation increase way more than wages and half-time shitty jobs are nowadays the norm. Bye bye 35 H now our government want people to work longer. 0xdeadbeef said how bad the situation is in Germany about internet freedom but here it is worse. Thanks to a new law, the Internet access providers have to shut down your connection if you download illegal stuff ( without judicial procedure ). Oh and here we have a marvellous currency: the euro. 22,000 $ in the US: ![[image loading]](http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/2604/camaro450percentkn9.jpg) + Show Spoiler + The 2010 Chevrolet Camaro V6 coupe will start around $22,000 with the V8 model around $28,000. Convertibles will likely start at around $28,000 for a V6 model and range up to $35,000 for a V8. 25000 $ in France: ![[image loading]](http://pix.nofrag.com/3/9/6/258566a5708018dd5c0b7761106a3.jpg) WELCOME TO FRANCE ! | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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Elric
United Kingdom1327 Posts
1) Chavs and (wannabe) gangsters. Whether they are immigrants or natives, White, Asian, Black whatever, I don't care, they need to be round up and shot. Fine, maybe that's too harsh. At the least compulsorily sterilise them all because they just raise up another generation of retards. They're just a big fucking drain on others. 2) Alcohol culture. Fucking calm down. The amount of public money spent on the national health service, emergency services and council services because of binge-drinking simpletons who go on to fuck something and/or someone up is unbelievable. Sadly, we are not like the rest of Europe/the world - "drinkly responsibly" is a complete oxymoron to many of us. | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
On June 19 2008 21:57 haduken wrote: umm... i don't think it works that way... assuming that the proportion of gays and lesbo is equal then it just means less pussies for everyone else. Right... I was just referring to (male) gays. | ||
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KwarK
United States43195 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:37 Elsi wrote: Quite a few foreigners and illegal immigrants are now descending to the UK now, far too many in people’s eyes. They all want come to the UK because we're soft as hell. "Welcome to the UK, we will provide you accommodation, free health care, a job and free education" It's a joke! You seen how many Poles/Lithuanians and other Eastern European people now working in the UK? No offence guys, but it’s true! We give asylum to certain people, who then criticise the UK, excuse me? We gave you a better life from the shithole you came from and now your preaching to people about killing British Citizens and criticising the way British People live? Very strange! The British right is getting pretty scary. We take it for granted that we, as the British, can move freely around Europe and work where we want but feel that everyone else who comes on to British soil in some way owes us personally something. For some reason we resent the immigrants who do the jobs we refused, as if secretly we all want to be cleaning the toilets in burger bars. We forget that these people are taxpaying residents and contributing towards the services they recieve. Also the lack of distinction between immigration and asylum is depressing. The second biggest political party refused to distinguish between them recently. And the hatred for asylum seekers is scary at times. So much fear and propaganda around people fleeing from oppression. They cannot legally work because then everyone will say they're just doing it for economic reasons. But then everyone says we're a soft touch because they're just sitting around waiting for the outcome of their asylum application while trying to live off a few pounds a week. The rascist right in this country is worrying. Their propaganda is laughable but is still lapped up by the plebs, between a dose of big brother gossip and a revelation that Madeline was Princess Di. It makes me wonder when tolerance stopped being something we were proud of as a nation. And by the way Elsi, you're not a British citizen. Nobody is. You're a subject of Her Majesty the Queen, as is every Australian, New Zealander and Canadian. You are however a British national. This crap about citizenship annoys me too. It doesn't exist in Britain. | ||
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xiaofan
United States513 Posts
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:07 KrAzYfoOL wrote: Australia has shitty internet. This is plaguing my very existance. Kwark also nailed a few of my thoughts about some attitudes towards Immigrants in Australia as well. | ||
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diggurd
Norway346 Posts
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Nitro68
France470 Posts
Gas = 1,40€/L And of course, if you want to buy something that cost $10 in the US, it will cost 10€ in France, even if 1€=$1.5 | ||
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Elric
United Kingdom1327 Posts
On June 20 2008 00:56 Kwark wrote: The British right is getting pretty scary. We take it for granted that we, as the British, can move freely around Europe and work where we want but feel that everyone else who comes on to British soil in some way owes us personally something. For some reason we resent the immigrants who do the jobs we refused, as if secretly we all want to be cleaning the toilets in burger bars. We forget that these people are taxpaying residents and contributing towards the services they recieve. Amen, brother! Really really pisses me off too when British people generalize foreigners into freeloaders just 'invading' our country. What I find really sad is that a bunch of these pricks leave the UK and go to live in (e.g.) Spain where they act elitist, make no attempt to integrate/learn the language, bitch about the locals while being despised EXACTLY like they were despising foreigners before (albeit this time the hate is justified). I genuinely feel sorry for the countries who have to cope with that. :[ | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:12 GenericTerranPlayer wrote: Hey koreans don't complain.. Singapore has a retarded amount of pressure to study, mandatory national service at 18, fucking bad weather AND no starcraft channels so you don't know how much better it is for you I guess most asian countries are about studying but that sucks cuz you have no sc you have youtube though and stuff | ||
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RavenWrath
Germany174 Posts
On June 20 2008 00:54 Elric_ wrote: 2 things. 1) Chavs and (wannabe) gangsters. Whether they are immigrants or natives, White, Asian, Black whatever, I don't care, they need to be round up and shot. Fine, maybe that's too harsh. At the least compulsorily sterilise them all because they just raise up another generation of retards. They're just a big fucking drain on others. I second that for germany | ||
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Nitro68
France470 Posts
France Football team during Euro08.... The good thing (compared to some complain in this thread) is that university only costs around 300€/year (it's even almost free if you don't have enough income). | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On June 20 2008 01:05 Nitro68 wrote: Our president think he is a Rockstar. Gas = 1,40€/L And of course, if you want to buy something that cost $10 in the US, it will cost 10€ in France, even if 1€=$1.5 But your first lady is smokin'! | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On June 20 2008 01:13 thedeadhaji wrote: But your first lady is smokin'! She is an attention-whore like her husband. | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
I hate how disabled kids, mentally or physically, basically cannot go to normal schools b/c they will be bullied and/or completely isolated. At least america is pretty accepting towards pple who have the cards slightly stacked against them but are still doin' their best. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 20 2008 01:16 thedeadhaji wrote: Japan: I hate how disabled kids, mentally or physically, basically cannot go to normal schools b/c they will be bullied and/or completely isolated. At least america is pretty accepting towards pple who have the cards slightly stacked against them but are still doin' their best. That must've been really hard on you. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
Most of the basic services suck ass, and if you dont have money, you are fucked!. | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
iirc I think I was being bullied by some fat kid in 2nd grade when I was @ a school in japan for 6 weeks or so in the summer. Then again I had no notion of bullying back then so I think I was just fist fighting the kid who weighed 20kilos more than me. | ||
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crabapple
United States397 Posts
consolidated controled media and brainwashing and covering up so many government crimes! eschelon. US can't spy on their own citizens so canada spies on the us, us spies on brittain, australia spies on canada etc, and then they share it all together. and thne fucking patriot act that allows evidence obtained illeagally to be used in court and shared with local police departments. say hello to north american union. goodbye ammendments 1 4 and 5. assassination of our best presidents: lincoln, jfk, garfield * Mckinley(for fighting against the central banks) constant government inflation. banks and the fed can create money, but why do i have to fight an uphill battle against inflation and work my ass off for the money ucreate out of fucking thin air? food poisoning, the bullshit regulations and leakages of substances by the FDA that fucks us over. for supressing new cures and treatments, labelling them quacks and alternative and "unproven" hte gas tax that is almost a one third of the price of gas, while blaring on and on about the gas price as an aggregate, instead of letting people know that the gov is throwing gas (pun intended) onto fire with the tax. | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:21 DrainX wrote: 65 hours!? 13 hours 5 days a week? Are you sure you dont mean 45 hours? I would vote for that illegal immigration policy. where can i sign? | ||
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Tacticas
Israel74 Posts
seriously where | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On June 20 2008 01:46 Tacticas wrote: Where do i start seriously where You win this thread by default  | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On June 20 2008 01:46 Tacticas wrote: Where do i start seriously where hahahaha | ||
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Wasabi
United States3085 Posts
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
On June 20 2008 00:56 Kwark wrote: The British right is getting pretty scary. We take it for granted that we, as the British, can move freely around Europe and work where we want but feel that everyone else who comes on to British soil in some way owes us personally something. For some reason we resent the immigrants who do the jobs we refused, as if secretly we all want to be cleaning the toilets in burger bars. We forget that these people are taxpaying residents and contributing towards the services they recieve. Also the lack of distinction between immigration and asylum is depressing. The second biggest political party refused to distinguish between them recently. And the hatred for asylum seekers is scary at times. So much fear and propaganda around people fleeing from oppression. They cannot legally work because then everyone will say they're just doing it for economic reasons. But then everyone says we're a soft touch because they're just sitting around waiting for the outcome of their asylum application while trying to live off a few pounds a week. The rascist right in this country is worrying. Their propaganda is laughable but is still lapped up by the plebs, between a dose of big brother gossip and a revelation that Madeline was Princess Di. It makes me wonder when tolerance stopped being something we were proud of as a nation. And by the way Elsi, you're not a British citizen. Nobody is. You're a subject of Her Majesty the Queen, as is every Australian, New Zealander and Canadian. You are however a British national. This crap about citizenship annoys me too. It doesn't exist in Britain. Wow, I finally agree with you about something xD My problem with Britain is that everyone is really derogatory of each other and cynical. It's such a cynical nation. Deadpan expressions line the crowd in everyone London music gig; deadpan, insulting comedians are the most famous and reverred; no one really appreciates anyone's creativity and imagination unless that person gazes at their shoes and mumbles, quietly, some sort of barbaric butchering of the King's English. No one really appreciates talent in Britain, it's more other things, like rudeness and spite. And fucking chavs omg. PPl who line the streets all subconsciously encouraging each other to be ruder and more dangerous each passing day; huge groups of semi-human creatures in every single town in britain, which wear shellsuits and caps or striped shirts with light green, yellow or blue. All of em carry knives and beat up grannies and basically anyone, just for fun. The whole atmosphere of repression in england is STIFLING. English people feel REALLY uncomfortable when someone is being loud, most of em keep their heads down and the only word you ever hear on the tube is 'sorry'. England is SO repressed! The sexuality, the music, the conversation, the COMEDY it's all so fucking repressed! Everyone seems to live in fear of a huge, bald, 25 stone bruiser shouting 'get of the stage you fucking nancy boy'! It's sad because some of our most famous comedians and musicians and public figures are the ones who can shed this repression, but the general populace can't. They experience alleviation from repression vicariously through celebrity reality shows and the like; a sort of release by proxy. The same goes for watching sports. And the worst thing, is that all english people then go COMPLETELY over the top with booze, which they use to unlock all of their fucking repression. It's just completely diabolical how much alcohol CONSUMES people's lives here. Almost everyone is 'living for the weekend'. Britain is a REALLY stifling place to live in because it's not the sort of place where people who differ from the norm are tolerated. Britain, to me, symbolizes prevention of reaching dreams; forced mediocrity; and social pressure to be less intelligent than you are. | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:37 Elsi wrote: Quite a few foreigners and illegal immigrants are now descending to the UK now, far too many in people’s eyes. They all want come to the UK because we're soft as hell. "Welcome to the UK, we will provide you accommodation, free health care, a job and free education" It's a joke! You seen how many Poles/Lithuanians and other Eastern European people now working in the UK? No offence guys, but it’s true! We give asylum to certain people, who then criticise the UK, excuse me? We gave you a better life from the shithole you came from and now your preaching to people about killing British Citizens and criticising the way British People live? Very strange! Got a similar situation here. Normally it's not a problem, but you also sometimes get the situation that some (younger ones, mostly) don't WANT to fit into the society, they don't like Germans so they always stick together and never integrate with the rest, they suck at speaking the language, they suck at school as a result because they don't understand anything, they have bad living conditions, not a bright future and so on... this can also easily lead to violence and more hate. The biggest crime percentage is caused by those people, and if you go out somewhere and someone insults you or provokes you to a fight, well, most of the time it's one of that kind too. And of course, because of our country's history, most are ashamed when discussing topics such as this (me too, actually) because you might immediately be tagged a "nazi". So because of this we're extremely open and tolerant, but I think a little too much. There should be a few standards which these people should follow so that they are actually able to integrate themselves well into society. There will be a few schools built exclusively for Turkish children now, where they speak no German of course. This is all nice and tolerant and you might think it might help them because it lowers the initial barriers they might have, but IMHO this will just make things worse because they'll never be able to really integrate themselves then. Even without these special schools, there are already some schools and kindergartens where the percentage of foreigner children is incredibly high. And the chance that they speak German with each other is low... This could easily be changed by trying to maintain a 50%/50% split or so. But as it is, we'll probably see more 100% foreigner and 100% German schools/kindergartens in the future. This is just the wrong way to go IMHO, because it means separation instead of integration from the start. Well, I normally don't think about this much because it's just a complicated matter and every opinion is somehow wrong. There's no easy answer to these things, and many opinions differ. I don't really care about these things, either. I live somewhere with almost no crime and I only know nice "foreigners" who are just normal in every aspect. But there are also others, who feel bad about living here, who don't like Germans, who don't want to belong, who start to become violent... and when you look at crime statistics you can't deny that this is a slowly growing problem. It also has to do with age... it's mostly teenagers and up to 25 year olds doing this. The older ones are generally very nice people, often nicer than the Germans (on average). Racism is increasing here too, because of this. In some cities and especially city parts the percentage of "foreigners" is extremely high, and usually crime is also high around these parts. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
Hugo Chavez - Venezuelan president, I dont think I should say much about him.. yall know about this worthless piece of crap! | ||
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RavenWrath
Germany174 Posts
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fanatacist
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outqast
United States287 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:04 imBLIND wrote: thank god bush is leaving soon fucking bitch, euros are worth more than dollars. fucking bitch, its 4 bucks a gallon for gas FUCKING BITCH CALIFORNIA ALLOWED GAY MARRIAGE 5 dollars a gallon. | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
On June 20 2008 01:06 Elric_ wrote: Amen, brother! Really really pisses me off too when British people generalize foreigners into freeloaders just 'invading' our country. What I find really sad is that a bunch of these pricks leave the UK and go to live in (e.g.) Spain where they act elitist, make no attempt to integrate/learn the language, bitch about the locals while being despised EXACTLY like they were despising foreigners before (albeit this time the hate is justified). I genuinely feel sorry for the countries who have to cope with that. :[ sounds like Mexicans in the US | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32083 Posts
On June 20 2008 00:24 Amber[LighT] wrote: I'm going to borrow the chart from the last page: I agree with the dumbfuck part. Self-righteous whatever I said on the last page includes: -New Yorkers -New Englanders -Any State that touches the pacific ocean. -Any wealthy person from Michigan That leaves... Wisconsin, Illinois, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, and... whatever state is up by Michigan and Wisconsin that I don't really care about because I'll never visit, to make up the logical Americans. I never meant you specifically, in other words. Ah, ok~ =] | ||
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rA.Hippie
Denmark714 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:25 Hans-Titan wrote: Denmark Sucky, sucky government messing up our welfare, by cutting shit left and right. The fact that the Danish peoples party account for 1/7th of all votes, meaning that there are way too many rascists in this country. The fact that we actually have a website promoting the nature of our country, despite it being the most dull thing on earth. After having our embassy bombed people have now gone american in our fear of terrorism: I really thought we were smarter. The thing that annoys me the most is probably everyones fancy of the absolutely awful music/films: as long as it off some big american movie-slash-music company, it's sure to be quality right? -.-; A-fucking-Men :|. way too many racists in our country. | ||
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UmmTheHobo
United States650 Posts
The other 19% are able to take in knowledge but have no logic whatsoever so they can barely use it. The other .5% of people here take in knowledge and have logic, but are so corrupt by shitty morals, bad parenting, and drugs that they don't really do anything for the good of the country/world Finally the last .5% are smart. | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
my home province, new brunswick, is canada's only officially bi-lingual province, but again, that only means that it officially has a giant cultural geographical divide based on which language you speak. moncton is literally cut in two because of this. i hate it and i wish we could all speak both languages, or at least get along. then there's the native situation, which has been handled so poorly by everyone involved, for so long, that i have no idea how things could improve. white canadians look down upon aboriginal canadians, and aboriginal canadians live in reserves together and suffer low employment rates, alcoholism, drug abuse, and suicide. the natives get a lot of government supported incentives to pursue higher education, but it never has seemed to work very well. if there are any native canadians on TL i'm sorry if i'm portraying this poorly, and i'm not by any means justifying the way you're treated. our government as of late has been fucking ridiculous. it's essentially a two-party system, with a few other parties available to form minority governments and bitch at the two big ones in parliament. the liberals get voted in, rob us blind for a few years, and then get voted out. the conservatives come in, run the country in a manner that nobody wants, and get kicked out in favor of the liberals again. and so it goes on. | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
wtf?! Was that flame completely unprovoked or because you two have history? | ||
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carotte
United States32 Posts
not quite equally. especially those koreans...that only hang out with koreans...that speak only korean...despite the fact they were born in the US and fake a bad korean accent when they speak ENGRISH so they can feel more Korean. GG. | ||
Xeofreestyler
Belgium6773 Posts
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OneBlueAugust
United States153 Posts
Way too many people act like they're enlightened, but in fact they harbor ridiculously close-minded ideas that only come out when they think they're among like-minded people. My boss started talking about politics the other day, and was spouting off the whole Obama / Osama thing, and I was seriously disgusted. The sad thing is that it's very, very common. That's just an example, by the way. A ton of people base their lives on what they see on TV. The shallowness and petty-mindedness that I have to deal with on a regular basis sickens me. Acting like the guys on Jackass, or parroting the way that nasty alien-looking Tila Tequila acts, just makes you look stupid. Their show is popular because they're trainwrecks, because they're a sideshow... Why would you want to base you life on copying someone who's know for being an idiot? Comformity is encouraged, especially in the workplace. The culture that says Obesity is a disease, and that the fatasses can't help themselves. Everywhere I go, some fat cow is riding around on a motorized cart, being helped out of the store by some unlucky employee. They're fucking slobs, and they're catered to. If we didn't support these fatasses so much, they'd be forced to lose some weight just so that they could walk around the grocery store enough to buy the massive quantities of food it takes to feed them. The people that still claim that America was founded by religious zealots, and so religion should still be included in our government and school systems. As an aside to that... Christians that claim to be persecuted. The War on Christmas is the biggest farce I've ever seen, and yet it's believed to be true because of the idiot talking heads on television. The subculture of "gangsta" dumbasses. It's not cool to be an uneducated, mouth-breathing moron with 8 kids that you don't support, you fucking retards. It's also not cool to dress in clothes that look like shit that cost hundreds of dollars, and carry around that debt on a credit card that you default on. I hope you accidentally shoot yourself in the balls with your "gat" when you're running down the street, holding up your pants with one hand. BTW, this isn't racially motivated, as I hate all "gangsta" idiots equally. In fact, the suburb versions of these morons are worse, as they don't have any economic reason to be that way. The fact that people allow themselves to be scared into supporting things like the "Patriot Act". That has to be the most ironic name for something I've ever seen, as it goes against everything this country was founded on. Terrorism is a fucking boogy man that the government uses to frighten people into supporting pork projects and bloated government, and it works because people are too stupid to realize that they're more likely to die or be harmed by a natural event than some terrorist. Hell, they're more likely to be killed by a home-grown, christian zealot than a middle-eastern one. The fact that people complain about gas prices, all the while driving their Suburban / Expedition to work... By themselves. Buy a sensible car and gas prices wouldn't affect you 1/10th as much you idiots. I hate how our government bails out corporations because if they fall it will hurt the economy, and then turn around and claim that the "invisible hand of the market" always fixes things. It can't fucking fix anything if you bail out the companies that fail, you goddamn idiots! They failed for a reason, and all you're doing by propping them up is hamstringing the capitalistic checks and balances that our economy is based on. The reason we're in a recession is because there's no penalty for failure for the huge conglomerate corporations, so they make bad loans and only shoot for quarterly gains. I could go on... But I won't. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On June 20 2008 02:52 HamerD wrote: wtf?! Was that flame completely unprovoked or because you two have history? i think he likes to troll / bm. | ||
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Ethenielle
Norway1006 Posts
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Kwidowmaker
Canada978 Posts
I have no complaints. | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
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Folca
2235 Posts
(and they get powned by every neignboring country) + Show Spoiler + im korean | ||
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
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Agahnim
Netherlands132 Posts
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fanta[Rn]
Japan2465 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i30.tinypic.com/2rdc6rn.jpg) we suckf or obvious reasons | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On June 20 2008 03:09 HamerD wrote: It would be nice if there were a counter thread to this what are the best things about your own country I wouldn't be able to participate | ||
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BreaK
Canada890 Posts
Great scene from a GREAT movie. 25th Hour, Spike Lee, Edward Norton. Edit: I should probably mention its very, very offensive, with some terrible language. | ||
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Pepsicolaone
United States967 Posts
On June 20 2008 03:23 ClouD.BreaK wrote: Reading through this thread, I was immediatly reminded of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxurS0G4N5A Great scene from a GREAT movie. 25th Hour, Spike Lee, Edward Norton. Edit: I should probably mention its very, very offensive, with some terrible language. that movie is an awesome movie. i have the DVD | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6638 Posts
On June 20 2008 02:17 HamerD wrote: What also sucks about britain is that class is so important to everyone. Almost everyone disrespects you if you have a good accent. Everyone tries to sound urban. I think I must have some kind of fucked up accent, a lot of people that I meet seem to think I'm either American, Canadian or Australian :O Things I dislike about this country are: -The sheer number of fat people, stupid people and fat, stupid people. -Fanatical Scottish nationalists -Neds, chavs w/e you wanna call them, people that will stab you and steal your shit for looking at them funny or for some other ridiculous reason. -The weather, pretty self explanatory. | ||
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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
Also, GTA's transit system sucks. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
China excels at blowing ass, mostly because the people there suck. -Virtually 100% of the homeless population has disabilities, and are left to rot on the side of the streets. -Taking the taxi? If the guy knows you're from out of town, he'll run in fucking circles to drain your wallet even if where you're going is across the fucking street. Sometimes they try to do it even if you're not from out of town. -Going to the doctor? 90% of them will tell you to bend over so they can shove their dick up your bank account with a calm, reassuring smile. -Need to go to a public bathroom? Well don't ask me, I won't even fucking talk to you. -You're a woman holding a small child waiting for a bus/subway, and it has empty seats? Well fuck you, you get pushed into the side, your child gets smashed against the side of the bus, and 34802839434 people charge through the door before waiting for people to come out. -Visiting a historic old town tourist attraction? You're in luck, as soon as your car pulls into the parking spot 78932447892 vendors rush up to you to offer a map, then follow you like zombies after brains. and the entire fucking "historic" town is desecrated by small, worthless souvenir stores. -Waiting in line at the grocery store? Oops! a stupid bitch getting her foodstuffs checked out finds a "price discrepancy" and starts arguing loud as fuck for 5 minutes straight on something the cashier can't do anything about. Repeat 234908290348x until its your turn. -You're somebody's pet trying to cross a road? Shit out of luck, not only do cars NOT stop or try to avoid you, they'll actually turn TOWARDS you and try to run you over, you know, for fun. -Running a company that needs things from overseas? That sucks for you too. You send a delegate, who then "bargains" with the salesman to sell your company whatever for 25% MORE than they're actually worth, in return for a bribe. GG. -Restaurants in the middle of winter with no air conditioning, people coughing all over the fucking place, and no tissues or napkins are available. At all. That's not even counting the slave labor done by overseas companies, millions of farmers still without electricity, and millions of other workers who are trying to make it in a system where actual human beings are as scarce as dead bodies in my living room. | ||
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hymn
Bulgaria832 Posts
Fuck Bulgaria because parents don't give a fuck and their children smoke and drink at the age of 11. Fuck Bulgaria because cops take 10 EURO bribes to pass people who drive drunk and kill other people. Fuck Bulgaria because if you are hyper aggressive you are the bomb. Fuck Bulgaria because if you drive Mercedes S class then there are no laws for you. Fuck Bulgaria because if you are an Olympic and World champion and you kill a girl while driving drunk you don't have to go to jail. Fuck Bulgaria because you can freely beat your kid and no one cares to do shit. Fuck Bulgaria because people pass other people laying on the ground in a puddle of blood. Fuck Bulgaria because you can freely kill homeless animals in front of cops and everyone and they congratulate you. Fuck Bulgaria because most people with power just love to humiliate others depending on them... And Fuck BULGARIA for hundreds of other reasons! | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 20 2008 03:47 Newbistic wrote: Wow not a lot of people bitching about China, that is.... nationalism? + Show Spoiler + China excels at blowing ass, mostly because the people there suck. -Virtually 100% of the homeless population has disabilities, and are left to rot on the side of the streets. -Taking the taxi? If the guy knows you're from out of town, he'll run in fucking circles to drain your wallet even if where you're going is across the fucking street. Sometimes they try to do it even if you're not from out of town. -Going to the doctor? 90% of them will tell you to bend over so they can shove their dick up your bank account with a calm, reassuring smile. -Need to go to a public bathroom? Well don't ask me, I won't even fucking talk to you. -You're a woman holding a small child waiting for a bus/subway, and it has empty seats? Well fuck you, you get pushed into the side, your child gets smashed against the side of the bus, and 34802839434 people charge through the door before waiting for people to come out. -Visiting a historic old town tourist attraction? You're in luck, as soon as your car pulls into the parking spot 78932447892 vendors rush up to you to offer a map, then follow you like zombies after brains. and the entire fucking "historic" town is desecrated by small, worthless souvenir stores. -Waiting in line at the grocery store? Oops! a stupid bitch getting her foodstuffs checked out finds a "price discrepancy" and starts arguing loud as fuck for 5 minutes straight on something the cashier can't do anything about. Repeat 234908290348x until its your turn. -You're somebody's pet trying to cross a road? Shit out of luck, not only do cars NOT stop or try to avoid you, they'll actually turn TOWARDS you and try to run you over, you know, for fun. -Running a company that needs things from overseas? That sucks for you too. You send a delegate, who then "bargains" with the salesman to sell your company whatever for 25% MORE than they're actually worth, in return for a bribe. GG. -Restaurants in the middle of winter with no air conditioning, people coughing all over the fucking place, and no tissues or napkins are available. At all. That's not even counting the slave labor done by overseas companies, millions of farmers still without electricity, and millions of other workers who are trying to make it in a system where actual human beings are as scarce as dead bodies in my living room. Say goodbye to your internet | ||
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friendofsam
Ireland9 Posts
too many people who are fat and ugly and with unpleasant personalities, especially really loud people, especially really loud black females who sound like fucking shrieking chimps in the jungle when they talk. every mainstream product (movies, tv, music, games) fucking sucks. living in america means you are surrounded by horrible music every time you go anywhere, and a large chunk of people's entire conversational repertoire consists of references to crappy movies and tv shows i don't watch. anti intellectualism and stupidity. there's a great quote from some comedian from the 60s named Groucho Marx or something, a paraphrase because i don't remember exactly: if you know how to read, and you don't do it, you may as well be illiterate. by this measure, america has the literacy of 13th century Europe. it seems like most people are very very stupid and only read things like newspapers and menus. i have actually been mocked and insulted for reading... i think the monkeys who live here just consider books to be large blunt objects with strange marks on them. this problem is related to the previous one: the average american watches 8 hours of TV a day. doing that just turns your mind into mush and you wander around like a zombie, completely numbed and dull and intellectually dead. thats 80% of americans... the other 20% have read 5 books and consider themselves geniuses for it. the problem of stupidity is especially prevalent among women. i have such a hard time finding a girl i can relate to intellectually... american girls' heads are full of garbage. i hate cars, too many fucking cars. i hate religion. the united states has the highest rates of religious adherence in the world, right up there tied with Saudi Arabia and Iran. again it's related to the stupidity thing (no offense to any christians here). people in america just don't know science and logic, instead we have this pathetic emarrassing worship of authority, people pick a hero to worship and believe everything he says. this country is so fucking horrible to me, it's like an abortion or a rotting, gangrenous, black wound where someone's hand was cut off or something. the worst thing about it is how many people love it. America is the greatest extant example of a truly brainwashed, deeply mentally enslaved people, like in dystopian totalitarianism like 1984 the book. We get abused and exploited by this country, and then we turn around and praise and love the country that fucks us over. it's because, unlike in civilized countries like ones in Europe, Americans are trained to have these feelings from birth. forced to recite the "pledge of allegiance" in a supposedly free country. the news here is just state propaganda, they never criticize the government or the corporations, all they say on TV is a constantly blaring message of "AMERICA IS THE GREATEST" and that is why so many retarded americans have this attitude. i fucking hate this country so much, i am so eager to leave and be somewhere else. | ||
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Cobalt
United States441 Posts
Please get a clue. Various sections of the Patriot Act have been deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Since when was violating the 4th amendment okay due to irrational fears of terrorism? By the way, notice how the whole "terror level" thing hasn't been below "significant" in pretty much ever? Seem a bit overzealous there? Also, ATTN: MPAA and RIAA. Reform is desperately needed. Piracy will continue until it is done. And illegal immigration. Hurry and MAKE A DECISION ALREADY. I don't even care if you give amnesty or build a new Great Wall of China, just DO SOMETHING. Oh, and figure out what the heck you want your economic system to be. Sometimes I don't know whether it's supposed to be socialism or capitalism anymore. By the way, your schools suck. Belgium spends half of what America does per student, and does much much better than America internationally. lern2education And finally, American citizens. COMPUTER GAMES CAN BE SPORTS. THE INTERNET IS THE FUTURE. START LEARNING TECHNOLOGY OR GET LEFT BEHIND, STOP MAKING PEOPLE LIKE ME FIX YOUR COMPUTER BECAUSE "oh, the keyboard is broken." Newsflash: IT ISN'T PLUGGED IN. ... | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
and oh yea, manifest destiny | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32083 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
Mexicans work harder than you anyway. Maybe if we didn't try to keep them all in their own country and punish them when they come here Mexico would be a slightly better place. Mexico has made huge strides to become a freer country and we still act like they're in the third world. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 20 2008 04:37 Ancestral wrote: Well a lot of people have mentioned racism and nationalism, but I think the USA is pretty bad about that too. Our leaders have no understanding of economics whatsoever, and just pander to interest groups and aging xenophobes in the AARP to create ridiculously long and illogical immigration bills stuffed chock-full of needles bureaucratic elements. I wish we'd just open up the border completely, I greatly dislike proud, selfish, disgusting, fat old or Southern people who talk about how our nation is being "diluted" or we'll somehow lose our values from immigrants or something. Americans are some of the most nationalistic people in the free world I think. Mexicans work harder than you anyway. Maybe if we didn't try to keep them all in their own country and punish them when they come here Mexico would be a slightly better place. Mexico has made huge strides to become a freer country and we still act like they're in the third world. It's funny, what they don't talk about is the fact that there are 3+ million Americans living in Mexico illegally. | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
On June 20 2008 04:16 Cobalt wrote: And finally, American citizens. COMPUTER GAMES CAN BE SPORTS. THE INTERNET IS THE FUTURE. START LEARNING TECHNOLOGY OR GET LEFT BEHIND, STOP MAKING PEOPLE LIKE ME FIX YOUR COMPUTER BECAUSE "oh, the keyboard is broken." Newsflash: IT ISN'T PLUGGED IN. ... http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/6692/ http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/3239/ | ||
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BreaK
Canada890 Posts
On June 20 2008 04:01 friendofsam wrote: too many people who are fat and ugly and with unpleasant personalities, especially really loud people, especially really loud black females who sound like fucking shrieking chimps in the jungle when they talk. That is the most racist thing I've seen or heard in a long time. I know some pretty mean shit has been said in this thread, but its always been of a different nature. You should be ashamed of yourself, and in my opinion, permanently banned. | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
On June 20 2008 04:52 ClouD.BreaK wrote: as racist as it is i agree with it, a lot of black females are loud and annoyingThat is the most racist thing I've seen or heard in a long time. I know some pretty mean shit has been said in this thread, but its always been of a different nature. You should be ashamed of yourself, and in my opinion, permanently banned. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32083 Posts
On June 20 2008 04:54 yubee wrote: as racist as it is i agree with it, a lot of black females are loud and annoying Haha, I almost watched four black girls fight a spanish girl driving a truck about 30 minutes ago out front of work. That's a pretty damn spot on assesment of what I saw. | ||
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BreaK
Canada890 Posts
On June 20 2008 04:54 yubee wrote: as racist as it is i agree with it, a lot of black females are loud and annoying Stereotypes happen. I was talking about comparing them to chimps. | ||
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6773 Posts
he was comparing the noise they made to chimps? its not like he actually compared black people to chimps | ||
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friendofsam
Ireland9 Posts
On June 20 2008 04:34 Hawk wrote: The US has one of the highest rates of religious adherence? Really?? yeah.. i read in the book The End of Faith some really shocking statistics. I can't remember the numbers exactly, but it was somthing like 2/3s of Americans say they literally believe the events in the bible, and 1/3 (half of the 2/3s group) believe Jesus will come back and do the armageddon thing _within their lifetime_. i dont remember exactly and i don't expect you to take my word for it of course. here's one quickly googled study http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdateNarrow&BarnaUpdateID=286 includes great/horrifying stuff like 69% of american _adults_ literally believe jesus turned water into wine, 64% literally believe the Noah's Ark story happened. honestly, even as cynical as i am i find this hard to believe... then again you talk to an average person and you're not exactly impressed at how smart he or she is... =/ | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
On June 20 2008 04:16 Cobalt wrote: Please get a clue. Various sections of the Patriot Act have been deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Since when was violating the 4th amendment okay due to irrational fears of terrorism? By the way, notice how the whole "terror level" thing hasn't been below "significant" in pretty much ever? Seem a bit overzealous there? Yeah... dying in a terrorist act is actually less likely than dying to pretty much EVERYTHING else... But don't forget, politicians aren't dumb, they might just fake it. Ok, not sure about Bush... but generally. Spreading fear of terrorism is an *excellent* way of making people want more security. And more security means of course more surveillance, less freedom for everyone, more control for those in power. Famous quote: ![[image loading]](http://www.takeoverworld.info/images/Goering-patriotism.jpg) | ||
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micronesia
United States24725 Posts
On June 20 2008 05:00 Xeofreestyler wrote: Uhm.. he was comparing the noise they made to chimps? its not like he actually compared black people to chimps I think it would be difficult to defend a claim that the choice of chimps and black people was purely coincidental. | ||
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BreaK
Canada890 Posts
On June 20 2008 05:00 Xeofreestyler wrote: Uhm.. he was comparing the noise they made to chimps? its not like he actually compared black people to chimps You have to see the problem in your logic. He likened one aspect of a group of people directly to chimps. What he he said is EXACTLY comparing black people to chimps. Its very simple. I get the impression that some people might not understand why this is racist. Simply, comparing black people to monkeys has, historically, been used as a racist, derogatory and offensive stereotype against black people. It IS racist, no one can argue against that and be right. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32083 Posts
On June 20 2008 05:02 friendofsam wrote: yeah.. i read in the book The End of Faith some really shocking statistics. I can't remember the numbers exactly, but it was somthing like 2/3s of Americans say they literally believe the events in the bible, and 1/3 (half of the 2/3s group) believe Jesus will come back and do the armageddon thing _within their lifetime_. i dont remember exactly and i don't expect you to take my word for it of course. here's one quickly googled study http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdateNarrow&BarnaUpdateID=286 includes great/horrifying stuff like 69% of american _adults_ literally believe jesus turned water into wine, 64% literally believe the Noah's Ark story happened. honestly, even as cynical as i am i find this hard to believe... then again you talk to an average person and you're not exactly impressed at how smart he or she is... =/ Hmm, while I wouldn't be particularly surprised if we did have a high amount, the sample size was only 1,000. Kinda small, considering the size of our country. It did say they were randomly selected though, but still. But these would probably remain pretty true regardless of size: • People who live in the South were more likely than residents of all other regions to embrace the truth of all six stories. • Those who portrayed themselves as mostly conservative on political matters were substantially more likely than those who called themselves mostly liberal to consider each of the six stories to be literally true. The average difference between the two segments was 26 percentage points. I'm pretty sure it varies a lot depending where you are. Jersey is pretty liberal, and we don't exactly have a real high rate of church goers and certainly not many born-agains or anything. The south would be different. | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
On June 20 2008 04:52 ClouD.BreaK wrote: That is the most racist thing I've seen or heard in a long time. I know some pretty mean shit has been said in this thread, but its always been of a different nature. You should be ashamed of yourself, and in my opinion, permanently banned. hmm actually tbh the way he phrased it...was pretty rude >< | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Well... Maybe I just hate capitalism in general. So I should say that I hate that Canada is losing its socialist values more and more everyday. | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
On June 20 2008 05:11 ClouD.BreaK wrote: You have to see the problem in your logic. He likened one aspect of a group of people directly to chimps. What he he said is EXACTLY comparing black people to chimps. Its very simple. I get the impression that some people might not understand why this is racist. Simply, comparing black people to monkeys has, historically, been used as a racist, derogatory and offensive stereotype against black people. It IS racist, no one can argue against that and be right. but then again, we can all probably agree with him in some capacity. Watch an episode of maury povich and scan the audience. Where there be sistas, there be shriek. Tbh. | ||
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6773 Posts
On June 20 2008 05:11 ClouD.BreaK wrote: You have to see the problem in your logic. He likened one aspect of a group of people directly to chimps. What he he said is EXACTLY comparing black people to chimps. Its very simple. I get the impression that some people might not understand why this is racist. Simply, comparing black people to monkeys has, historically, been used as a racist, derogatory and offensive stereotype against black people. It IS racist, no one can argue against that and be right. Well I'm guessing my logic is just based on the fact that I'm not that familiar with racism against blacks on 'that level' my bad! | ||
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BreaK
Canada890 Posts
On June 20 2008 05:23 HamerD wrote: hmm actually tbh the way he phrased it...was pretty rude >< Hahaha. I did see what you wrote before that edit. I'm glad you changed it though. No hard feelings. I read what he wrote and felt like I had to bring it to attention because it just bothered me so much. | ||
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Fobbish
Korea (South)1071 Posts
u.s.: gas gas GAS motherfukcing gas. hullo~ fat people! land of fat!!! fuck you lard containers. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Well I'm guessing my logic is just based on the fact that I'm not that familiar with racism against blacks on 'that level' You didn't know about blacks not being considered even human, and being used like animals as slaves? Good lord, man! I don't think the guy should be banned, and I don't think people should be starting off topic arguments about it, but it was over the line. IMO correct procedure for ClouD.Break would have been to inform an admin/mod that he was offended, and let them handle it (probably by censoring the offensive parts of the post, and giving the guy a slap on the wrist). But yes, different cultures have different sensitivities, and while you may not like loud people, it could be interpreted as very friendly and spirited to others. | ||
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koreasilver
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
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BreaK
Canada890 Posts
On June 20 2008 05:43 PsycHOTemplar wrote: You didn't know about blacks not being considered even human, and being used like animals as slaves? Good lord, man! I don't think the guy should be banned, and I don't think people should be starting off topic arguments about it, but it was over the line. IMO correct procedure for ClouD.Break would have been to inform an admin/mod that he was offended, and let them handle it (probably by censoring the offensive parts of the post, and giving the guy a slap on the wrist). But yes, different cultures have different sensitivities, and while you may not like loud people, it could be interpreted as very friendly and spirited to others. Fair enough. Your approach to the situation (notifying a mod) was better. I'll remember that. | ||
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Aux1
United States780 Posts
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Pwntrucci[sR]
Canada1519 Posts
On June 20 2008 00:13 Eti307 wrote: you don't want sympatico either. This is why it sucks here, you basically only have 2 choices, one ran by Quebecor, with nice speed but totally rips you off and the other a bit less expensive, still rip you off but is really slow as well. I wish videotron would have some competitions so they wouldn't make me pay nearly 90$/month for a 100gig limit bandwith (they don't even have unlimited plans) Haha, 2 years ago when I got videotron, my internet just wasn't working. I spent hours on the phone with these retards, they told me I had to buy new shit on my comp or something, till finally one of them realized they had forgotten to activate my internet. Saaaad ;( When I think of my country, almost subconsciously the first thing that comes to mind is Quebec. I think most people who live here just forget we are part of some other, bigger country, Canadia or something. Hey, that's cool with me though, Eric lapointe / Plume latraverse > avril lavigne. | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:07 KrAzYfoOL wrote: Australia has shitty internet. I think ours is worse One thing I hate about NZ is the peoples' hatred towards nuclear power even though its one of the cleaner energy sources, but lucky that's changing for the better now. | ||
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EnergyTraction
Canada233 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:24 Last Romantic wrote: fuck the highest tax bracket applying to so many people holyshit if you're gonna have a tax bracket that taxes so much at least set it high everyone and their kid brother can make like 300k now so fuck that lol...? | ||
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defenestrate
United States579 Posts
The drivers are fucking imbeciles and the public transport is a joke. Bush's successor will be worse either way, and that's quite an accomplishment. Our schools are worthless. (A high-school history teacher once claimed that Bismarck led Germany in World War 1...) | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On June 20 2008 02:17 HamerD wrote: What also sucks about britain is that class is so important to everyone. Almost everyone disrespects you if you have a good accent. Everyone tries to sound urban. I guess it's a bit diff when you're in cam-fucking-bridge lawl. It's like the opposite >_> | ||
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RaiZ
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
YOUR MOTHERFUCKING WOMEN BRO | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
I would propose that out of every civilized nation on this planet, we have the dumbest mainstream media. And I'm not just talking about Fox. A media system where a young girl is shot to death for refusing to give her phone number to a grown man, and is then later portrayed as a "militant lesbian", and her death an act of self defense on the part of the shooter. A media system where Obama is called "too feminine to be president" because he is a member of a book club. Personally, I'd be ecstatic to have a president who can read. We have a mentality that to question the acts of the government is nigh treason. To acknowledge that racism exists is to be racist yourself. To acknowledge that we live in a patriarchal society is to be sexist yourself. To say anything *but* "America is the fucking best at everything*, means you hate America. People support things like the patriot act, while furious that the government takes note of how many guns they own. People who say that Katrina was God's wrath against the gays, but the fact that half the northwest is underwater is a horrible tragedy. I can't stand the fuss over gay marriage. Pastors freaking out and refusing to perform ANY marriages. Yet we forget that when schools were first desegregated, parents pulled their children out of school, outraged that their kids might have to go to school with black people. Catholic schools claimed that desegregating violated their religious beliefs and that the government had no right to insist they let black kids attend. We don't learn very quickly as a nation. I hate that people tout this country as the most open, freedom loving nation, founded on the idea that everyone is equal. Again, we forget that this nation was founded on the idea that all white christian land-owning males are equal. And oh my god, the uproar about the recent restoration of habeus corpus. "WHO THE FUCK DOES THE JUDICIARY BRANCH OF THE GOVERNMENT THINK IT IS?? DECIDING WHAT IS AND WHAT ISN'T CONSTITUTIONAL! BULLSHIT!" Well fuck me sideways. The judiciary branch doing exactly what it's supposed to to. How un-American. But most of all, it's that we think we are the best at everything. Americans in general, (though there are always exceptions), are convinced from birth that we're the greatest fucking country on the planet. Yet the bulk of them have never left the country. A friend of mine at college was from England, and was living in the states for school. On more than one occasion, people we encountered were amazed to discover that she intended to go back to England after she graduated. Some remarks were so very blatant too. "Why would you want to go back?" or, "You've already made it to America, why would you want to leave?" Mind blowing. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On June 20 2008 05:56 RaiZ wrote: Ppl who say expensive's cars in france... Are just misunderstood. Boblion the car you showed cost only 15keuros. with your price you could even get a new laguna. Only downside is the motor. uh ? A Clio in France is more expensive than a Camaro in US. Chevrolet dont sell this car in France For 15000 euros in France you have this Chevrolet: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://pix.nofrag.com/3/4/1/959c2c5d7f996ba9689edba588a28.jpg) ... | ||
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thedeadhaji
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
After learning about our history from WWI on, I was so pissed off how our government still tries to meet quebec's and our first nations demands. They could have had it so much worse, they complained all the while so eventually Canada gave into these kind of things (like how EVERY province in BC has to have french and english labels on certain things, and they get their own this and that and their votes count for like 2x as much as an english vote in government (i dont know the details but thats the gist of it). And first nations complain all about how they had this and that taken away from them, and how their greatgreatgreatgreatgreatgrandfather went to some native camp, so they sue the government for like $30 million. Im like WTF? how does any of this relate to anything in the past. It just angers my so much that the government gives in to them | ||
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thedeadhaji
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
1. The fact that some people have to work 2 or more jobs for 12+ hours a day just to get by. A Mexican I work with does 16 hours/day, no weekend. HOLY SHIT I want to cry everytime I see him. 2. The youths that are more concerned with their image and "gangsta-ness" than graduating high school; result? 30% of all high school freshman do not graduate. 3. Gay-ass affirmative action. 4. The unbelievable amount of rules and regulations everywhere. 5. People don't read, meaning the majority of Americans are not less intelligent, but less educated; result? Bush for 8 years lol. A nation of idiots can not function as a democracy. 6. Fatness 7. The hysteria and fear in most people about most issues, even the most unconsequential and trivial. 8. The shitty ass media such as CNN and Fox that twist stories and are biased in their reporting of most stories. 9. The notion that somehow America is best at everything, best schools, products, ideas...w/e China: 1. Corruption EVERYWHERE. It's all about who you know, the favors you do, and how deep your pocket is. 2. People aren't concerned with public health. As long as their house or community is clean, the city streets can be layered in spit, trash, shit, or w/e. 3. Society pressures for the young to HAVE to go to college. result? Like around 30% (at least where I'm from) of high school freshmen can't go to college because there simply is no room for more students. 4. Difficulty to find jobs. 5. The news is fucked up. 6. Thieves and scammers, more of those than flies in Australia I bet. | ||
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AnyOne
Chile547 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
On June 20 2008 05:45 Ancestral wrote: good job buddyI know plenty of black girls who aren't loud, and plenty of loud people who aren't black girls. My $0.02 | ||
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friendofsam
Ireland9 Posts
if that's racist, then saying "i hate those people who rob and kill others, including the members of that category who are black" is racist. is it racist to say anything negative about a black person? even if it's TRUE? racist generalizations like "all black people smoke crack" are racist because they are false. a true statement can never be racist, otherwise racism would be right =\. | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
Ok, let me elaborate. I do not notice that a larger proportion of black women are loud than any other race. However, being not loud, doing well in school, living in the suburbs, liking music that isn't rap, often leads to others (of all races) to say they act "white," so retardedness is omnipresent I suppose. | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On June 20 2008 06:42 friendofsam wrote: I was just going to ignore the criticism of my comment, but since so many people are paying attention to it i'll point out the obvious: i said i don't like loud people, especially the shrieking black girls i see every day. did i say "all black girls shriek loudly like monkeys"? NO I said i hate the ones that do. as others have stated, such girls do exist. if that's racist, then saying "i hate those people who rob and kill others, including the members of that category who are black" is racist. is it racist to say anything negative about a black person? even if it's TRUE? racist generalizations like "all black people smoke crack" are racist because they are false. a true statement can never be racist, otherwise racism would be right =\. You said especially, with no qualifier other than their being black. | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
I love my country, and I love living here, especially when I hear how things are outside of the country, but there's still plenty I dislike, mostly the people. The school I go to is the best public school in the state (Ohio), yet it's in like the worst public school district. The country in general fucks the education system horribly. Kids are educated to be stupid slobs so that the media is successful, people care about celebrities, everyone is a bunch of ignorant xenophobic socially backwards animals. I don't do anything or put any effort into school, while being at a school ranked #276 in the whole country, and I get top grades in the "hardest" classes, and everyone tells me how great and smart I am, and it's only because everyone is fucking stupid. But it's not really their fault, because they're being bred to be stupid. Education is shifting from being a system to force Americans to compete and hopefully be superior (educationally) to people around the world (namely, smarter than the soviets) to being a fucking day-care. I'm not allowed to think in terms of stereotypes or be racist or sexist at all even when I see these stereotypes overwhelmingly on a daily basis. My school district is 80% "black" and 20% "white" even though, everyone who's not black (asians, hispanics, which apparently covers everyone not "black" or "white") is also part of "white". People don't just think it's cool to be dumb, it really is cool to be stupid and be "gangsta". Half of fucking bnet even calls people their "niggas" and talks in butchered "ghetto" english, and half of fucking bnet isn't even just americans wtf. The majority of the people I see at school on a daily basis are aggressive black men/boys and shrieking black girls/women. I wish they sounded like chimps, they'd be easier to listen to. Most of the white people are worse, in that they actually copy this stupid behavior because it's "cool". My school is so ahead of the rest of the district, that they've decided to level out the playing field so we don't feel too elitist. They do this by dragging my school down to fail with the rest of the schools so no one looks "bad". It's fucking bullshit. The No Child Left Behind Act fucking butchered education. All it does is take kids who don't want to succeed, and put them in "good" schools to try and help them. But since they've been socially taught to not learn or succeed, all they do is bring the whole school down. I'm supposed to compete with the rest of the world, but my country is socially teaching all kids to be stupid, so the media and education caters to stupid people. We really aren't taught to learn a foreign language. We have mandatory foreign language classes, but most of the time you really aren't expected to learn the language, just pass the class. The fact that you can pass a language class without learning the language alone is ridiculous. Most of the country it seems like are fundamentalist conservative right wing morons who are xenophobic, homophobic, classist, and afraid of technology and progress. This results in the rest of the world out-competing us in every area. We've thrown aside the things that made us the most powerful country under this vague notion that we'll just always be the best, despite that we're slipping behind the world. Since I'm American, any argument I ever make online is dismissed because I'm American. I'm not allowed to point out people wrong in my country, because it's not socially acceptable to be intelligent. I'm not allowed to point out people wrong outside of my country, because I'm an American slob. I'm not allowed to be racist or nationalist at all because I'm American, but then people treat me like I'm racist and nationalist because I'm from America. There's this Catch 22, where the rest of the world won't let America not be ignornant fuckheads, but expects us not to be anyway, so we're just universally hated. People inside the country whine that the government sucks, but they don't try to do anything about it. They complain how the whole politics system sucks, and protest it by not getting involved. People refuse to vote because there isn't a candidate specifically tailored to their own beliefs. You're not allowed to be in the middle, you have to be either left or right, and if you're not you're just hated by everyone. It's always left vs right, but both suck. The right are the fucking backwards ones, who ruin the country yet think they rule the world. They edge the country towards totalitarianism every chance they get. They're the people who read 1984, and say, Hey, this is a pretty good idea! Then there's the left, who read 1984 and say Man, we gotta protest this! Lets protest it by doing NOTHING, that'll show 'em! The whole Clinton vs Obama thing was ridiculous. They were basically the same candidate ideologically, yet people were pitting them against eachother like it was Bush vs Gore again. The people who supported Obama hated Clinton just for being Clinton, the same assbackwards way the Republicans hate Clinton for being Clinton. There's no difference between Republicans and Democrats, they're the same idiots just preaching the other side. Obama supporters are cultist like Ron Paul supporters are. The country's hipocrisy rivals 1984's DoubleThink. Republicans yell at Democrats for doing exactly what the Republicans are doing. Democrats let themselves get fucked in the ass, and when they get some power they either shoot themselves in the foot, or do nothing at all, the great wait-it-out tactic lol. People whine about the economy when they're still in fucking middle class despite the economy going to shit. They bawwwwwwww about gas being so high, but all that does is mean they have to remove luxury expenses. The lower class really is going to shit, whether they drive or not, because the price of food, electricity, gas (for house heating), and all appliances and services are going up, without wages going up, which only further hurts the entire economy. So people decide to counter this by whining, and doing nothing else. Instead of finding a way to fix the problem technologically, they just blame people for the problem. You're so socially expected to do and have things that you're a complete enigma when you don't want them. My biggest complaint is the technology thing. People are afraid of all forms of technology they don't already own, it's ridiculous. People look down on the sciences, even though the sciences is what brought them all of their creature comforts. People are so un-laid-back it's retarded. Everyone is busy with their life-drama, if they're not busy watching soap-operas on tv. Reality shows are fucking retarded. Most movies coming out fucking suck too. America is just flawed by being socially backwards, and by educating the new generations to be socially backwards. We throw out everything that ever made us great, and then try to bring the world down around us. Look at all the shitty things happening in other countries as result of the US? All this terrorism scare shit? And we're in a war and losing? We're the fucking United States who fought back the nazi regime to Berlin and we can't occupy an oil field in the middle of a desert? And the people we're occupying for some strange reason don't want to be occupied but we can't imagine why... Doesn't everyone like being occupied by Americans? Look at Israel, fucking up shit in Lebanon. Since when has Israel had the privillege to fuck up a war and come out fine? It used to be, if Israel lost a war they'd lose their country, so they didn't lose wars, and didn't start fights they didn't need or couldn't finish, but the US has made them so lazy they start random fights now wtf. The United States just isn't capable of living not in a state of Cold War yet I guess. Everyone who was raised and educated in the Cold War is educating their children like it's the Cold War, except without any pressure to learn maths and sciences. Which just leaves everyone regressive and backwards about the Cold War present -.- Then the rest of the world talks to us like we're crap and wonders why we don't like them, but still expects us to do shit for them, then complains we're too involved in the rest of the world's affairs. Our politics in general is hillarious. McCain, a tortured war hero is condoning torture, lol. Kerry gets flamed for being a veteran by a draft dodger. Obama is called a terrorist, wtf. The right flames McCain the whole election, and when he wins the nomination he's suddenly their hero. Clinton has the nomination in the bag, then manages to do everything wrong assuming she's still won the election, and doesn't figure out she might lose and restructures her campaign until it's too late. McCain pushes and supports everything Bush made and did, but people prefer him because he's not black and isn't a woman. Then liberals start gathering around Ron Paul as their hero, even when he openly denounces the theories of evolution. Clinton supporters are such blind idiots they try and threaten Obama supporters by saying they'll vote for McCain over Obama when it makes no sense to do so, especially when Obama ideologically is basically just a more charismatic Clinton. People vote or vote against Obama because he's black, Clinton because she's a woman, why does shit like that even matter in the 21st century, in the land of oppourtunities and freedom? People worship violence, drugs, alcohol, hate education, it's silly lol. If you don't mind racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, a fear of progress and a tendacy towards social and technological regression, the United States is great! Atleast we accept our capitalism and don't try and call it socialism. | ||
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Elwood Blues
United States261 Posts
Dear Lone Star State, fuck you in the ass and here's why: because you don't remind me to look the other way when a brand new Hummer rolls up with its newly adorned "support our troops" bumper sticker because the person driving that Hummer is often one of hundreds of artificially blonde, fake tanned interchangeable high school frankenskanks, occasionally daughter to an oil baron because the local school district cut back on its Spanish program but installed plasma televisions in the entry hall of the high school because high school football and its players are held in such delusionally high reverence that drunk driving and assault are swept under the rug and coaches modify exams and scores to ensure things are smooth for the players futures because said football program has been commercialized to the point that a sports marketing firm secures corporate sponsors for the stadium and rents the training facility to the Dallas Cowboys, a notable addition to the already millions grossing memorabilia racket because there are born Texans who think Mexicans are trash who sit below them. those Mexicans will dance to the petty whims of "good ol boy" Texans in hope of putting enough food on the table for their family, and in the process do more hard work in one day then those racist fucks will do in a month because those only scratch the surface, but most of all, because I got used to all this a long, long time ago | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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Heggie
United Kingdom167 Posts
On June 20 2008 06:42 friendofsam wrote: i said i don't like loud people, especially the shrieking black girls i see every day. Surely it is implicit in that remark that there is some unique charictaristic of a shreiking black girl that is worse than a shreiking girl in general? Also the chimp reference was foolish ON TOPIC: Fuck our driving test system. I just want to fucking pass my test so I no longer have to pretend to agree with my instructors casual racism out of politeness Also our taxes on alchohol are crazy! What makes it all the more ridiculous is that chain pubs and supermarkets can still sell booze dirt cheap. Tesco brand lager is £2 per 6 pack or somthing stupid. That is how binge drinkers get themselves fucked, yet responsible pubs such as where I work, and responsible drinkers, such as myself, who don't want to drink in shitholes, have to pay absurd prices. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On June 20 2008 06:21 thedeadhaji wrote: are you comparing prices using exchange rate, or relative price compared to avg salaries. exchange rate. | ||
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Eskii
Canada544 Posts
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
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fgsvsd
Switzerland348 Posts
On June 20 2008 06:52 Nightmarjoo wrote: Thread win?+ Show Spoiler + United States I love my country, and I love living here, especially when I hear how things are outside of the country, but there's still plenty I dislike, mostly the people. The school I go to is the best public school in the state (Ohio), yet it's in like the worst public school district. The country in general fucks the education system horribly. Kids are educated to be stupid slobs so that the media is successful, people care about celebrities, everyone is a bunch of ignorant xenophobic socially backwards animals. I don't do anything or put any effort into school, while being at a school ranked #276 in the whole country, and I get top grades in the "hardest" classes, and everyone tells me how great and smart I am, and it's only because everyone is fucking stupid. But it's not really their fault, because they're being bred to be stupid. Education is shifting from being a system to force Americans to compete and hopefully be superior (educationally) to people around the world (namely, smarter than the soviets) to being a fucking day-care. I'm not allowed to think in terms of stereotypes or be racist or sexist at all even when I see these stereotypes overwhelmingly on a daily basis. My school district is 80% "black" and 20% "white" even though, everyone who's not black (asians, hispanics, which apparently covers everyone not "black" or "white") is also part of "white". People don't just think it's cool to be dumb, it really is cool to be stupid and be "gangsta". Half of fucking bnet even calls people their "niggas" and talks in butchered "ghetto" english, and half of fucking bnet isn't even just americans wtf. The majority of the people I see at school on a daily basis are aggressive black men/boys and shrieking black girls/women. I wish they sounded like chimps, they'd be easier to listen to. Most of the white people are worse, in that they actually copy this stupid behavior because it's "cool". My school is so ahead of the rest of the district, that they've decided to level out the playing field so we don't feel too elitist. They do this by dragging my school down to fail with the rest of the schools so no one looks "bad". It's fucking bullshit. The No Child Left Behind Act fucking butchered education. All it does is take kids who don't want to succeed, and put them in "good" schools to try and help them. But since they've been socially taught to not learn or succeed, all they do is bring the whole school down. I'm supposed to compete with the rest of the world, but my country is socially teaching all kids to be stupid, so the media and education caters to stupid people. We really aren't taught to learn a foreign language. We have mandatory foreign language classes, but most of the time you really aren't expected to learn the language, just pass the class. The fact that you can pass a language class without learning the language alone is ridiculous. Most of the country it seems like are fundamentalist conservative right wing morons who are xenophobic, homophobic, classist, and afraid of technology and progress. This results in the rest of the world out-competing us in every area. We've thrown aside the things that made us the most powerful country under this vague notion that we'll just always be the best, despite that we're slipping behind the world. Since I'm American, any argument I ever make online is dismissed because I'm American. I'm not allowed to point out people wrong in my country, because it's not socially acceptable to be intelligent. I'm not allowed to point out people wrong outside of my country, because I'm an American slob. I'm not allowed to be racist or nationalist at all because I'm American, but then people treat me like I'm racist and nationalist because I'm from America. There's this Catch 22, where the rest of the world won't let America not be ignornant fuckheads, but expects us not to be anyway, so we're just universally hated. People inside the country whine that the government sucks, but they don't try to do anything about it. They complain how the whole politics system sucks, and protest it by not getting involved. People refuse to vote because there isn't a candidate specifically tailored to their own beliefs. You're not allowed to be in the middle, you have to be either left or right, and if you're not you're just hated by everyone. It's always left vs right, but both suck. The right are the fucking backwards ones, who ruin the country yet think they rule the world. They edge the country towards totalitarianism every chance they get. They're the people who read 1984, and say, Hey, this is a pretty good idea! Then there's the left, who read 1984 and say Man, we gotta protest this! Lets protest it by doing NOTHING, that'll show 'em! The whole Clinton vs Obama thing was ridiculous. They were basically the same candidate ideologically, yet people were pitting them against eachother like it was Bush vs Gore again. The people who supported Obama hated Clinton just for being Clinton, the same assbackwards way the Republicans hate Clinton for being Clinton. There's no difference between Republicans and Democrats, they're the same idiots just preaching the other side. Obama supporters are cultist like Ron Paul supporters are. The country's hipocrisy rivals 1984's DoubleThink. Republicans yell at Democrats for doing exactly what the Republicans are doing. Democrats let themselves get fucked in the ass, and when they get some power they either shoot themselves in the foot, or do nothing at all, the great wait-it-out tactic lol. People whine about the economy when they're still in fucking middle class despite the economy going to shit. They bawwwwwwww about gas being so high, but all that does is mean they have to remove luxury expenses. The lower class really is going to shit, whether they drive or not, because the price of food, electricity, gas (for house heating), and all appliances and services are going up, without wages going up, which only further hurts the entire economy. So people decide to counter this by whining, and doing nothing else. Instead of finding a way to fix the problem technologically, they just blame people for the problem. You're so socially expected to do and have things that you're a complete enigma when you don't want them. My biggest complaint is the technology thing. People are afraid of all forms of technology they don't already own, it's ridiculous. People look down on the sciences, even though the sciences is what brought them all of their creature comforts. People are so un-laid-back it's retarded. Everyone is busy with their life-drama, if they're not busy watching soap-operas on tv. Reality shows are fucking retarded. Most movies coming out fucking suck too. America is just flawed by being socially backwards, and by educating the new generations to be socially backwards. We throw out everything that ever made us great, and then try to bring the world down around us. Look at all the shitty things happening in other countries as result of the US? All this terrorism scare shit? And we're in a war and losing? We're the fucking United States who fought back the nazi regime to Berlin and we can't occupy an oil field in the middle of a desert? And the people we're occupying for some strange reason don't want to be occupied but we can't imagine why... Doesn't everyone like being occupied by Americans? Look at Israel, fucking up shit in Lebanon. Since when has Israel had the privillege to fuck up a war and come out fine? It used to be, if Israel lost a war they'd lose their country, so they didn't lose wars, and didn't start fights they didn't need or couldn't finish, but the US has made them so lazy they start random fights now wtf. The United States just isn't capable of living not in a state of Cold War yet I guess. Everyone who was raised and educated in the Cold War is educating their children like it's the Cold War, except without any pressure to learn maths and sciences. Which just leaves everyone regressive and backwards about the Cold War present -.- Then the rest of the world talks to us like we're crap and wonders why we don't like them, but still expects us to do shit for them, then complains we're too involved in the rest of the world's affairs. Our politics in general is hillarious. McCain, a tortured war hero is condoning torture, lol. Kerry gets flamed for being a veteran by a draft dodger. Obama is called a terrorist, wtf. The right flames McCain the whole election, and when he wins the nomination he's suddenly their hero. Clinton has the nomination in the bag, then manages to do everything wrong assuming she's still won the election, and doesn't figure out she might lose and restructures her campaign until it's too late. McCain pushes and supports everything Bush made and did, but people prefer him because he's not black and isn't a woman. Then liberals start gathering around Ron Paul as their hero, even when he openly denounces the theories of evolution. Clinton supporters are such blind idiots they try and threaten Obama supporters by saying they'll vote for McCain over Obama when it makes no sense to do so, especially when Obama ideologically is basically just a more charismatic Clinton. People vote or vote against Obama because he's black, Clinton because she's a woman, why does shit like that even matter in the 21st century, in the land of oppourtunities and freedom? People worship violence, drugs, alcohol, hate education, it's silly lol. If you don't mind racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, a fear of progress and a tendacy towards social and technological regression, the United States is great! Atleast we accept our capitalism and don't try and call it socialism. A lot of that kinda resonated in me even though I've never lived in America. Weird huh? | ||
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Krohm
Canada1857 Posts
On June 20 2008 07:14 fgsvsd wrote: Thread win? A lot of that kinda resonated in me even though I've never lived in America. Weird huh? Yeah me too, it really makes me feel like wow... Humanity is stupid. | ||
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
Various (mainly gay rights, which is the one I'm most entrenched in) political rights issues that I feel are only being argued by many out of forms of xenophobia, which disgusts me. Social support system in general is pretty bad. Main issues I have with it being the shitty Health Care and Education system as far as costs of college go, and as far as quality for the public school systems go. The latter I've had more personal experience with. For a quick example, in my eighth year of school, the first few months in math class were spent doing two digit addition and multiplication. I'm not kidding. I can't really think of anything else. I don't hate the country in general, though. Just certain groups of people in it and how the social portions of the government are piss-poor. | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
On June 20 2008 07:39 Krohm wrote: Yeah me too, it really makes me feel like wow... Humanity is stupid. YEAH MAN! Fucking excellent post there. This guy is awesome. Totally summed up what I'm thinking about the english education system. Definitely thread won. Serious time invested for an A* quality post. | ||
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TheOvermind77
United States923 Posts
On June 20 2008 06:52 Nightmarjoo wrote: United States I love my country, and I love living here, especially when I hear how things are outside of the country, but there's still plenty I dislike, mostly the people. The school I go to is the best public school in the state (Ohio), yet it's in like the worst public school district. The country in general fucks the education system horribly. Kids are educated to be stupid slobs so that the media is successful, people care about celebrities, everyone is a bunch of ignorant xenophobic socially backwards animals. I don't do anything or put any effort into school, while being at a school ranked #276 in the whole country, and I get top grades in the "hardest" classes, and everyone tells me how great and smart I am, and it's only because everyone is fucking stupid. But it's not really their fault, because they're being bred to be stupid. Education is shifting from being a system to force Americans to compete and hopefully be superior (educationally) to people around the world (namely, smarter than the soviets) to being a fucking day-care. I'm not allowed to think in terms of stereotypes or be racist or sexist at all even when I see these stereotypes overwhelmingly on a daily basis. My school district is 80% "black" and 20% "white" even though, everyone who's not black (asians, hispanics, which apparently covers everyone not "black" or "white") is also part of "white". People don't just think it's cool to be dumb, it really is cool to be stupid and be "gangsta". Half of fucking bnet even calls people their "niggas" and talks in butchered "ghetto" english, and half of fucking bnet isn't even just americans wtf. The majority of the people I see at school on a daily basis are aggressive black men/boys and shrieking black girls/women. I wish they sounded like chimps, they'd be easier to listen to. Most of the white people are worse, in that they actually copy this stupid behavior because it's "cool". My school is so ahead of the rest of the district, that they've decided to level out the playing field so we don't feel too elitist. They do this by dragging my school down to fail with the rest of the schools so no one looks "bad". It's fucking bullshit. The No Child Left Behind Act fucking butchered education. All it does is take kids who don't want to succeed, and put them in "good" schools to try and help them. But since they've been socially taught to not learn or succeed, all they do is bring the whole school down. I'm supposed to compete with the rest of the world, but my country is socially teaching all kids to be stupid, so the media and education caters to stupid people. We really aren't taught to learn a foreign language. We have mandatory foreign language classes, but most of the time you really aren't expected to learn the language, just pass the class. The fact that you can pass a language class without learning the language alone is ridiculous. Most of the country it seems like are fundamentalist conservative right wing morons who are xenophobic, homophobic, classist, and afraid of technology and progress. This results in the rest of the world out-competing us in every area. We've thrown aside the things that made us the most powerful country under this vague notion that we'll just always be the best, despite that we're slipping behind the world. Since I'm American, any argument I ever make online is dismissed because I'm American. I'm not allowed to point out people wrong in my country, because it's not socially acceptable to be intelligent. I'm not allowed to point out people wrong outside of my country, because I'm an American slob. I'm not allowed to be racist or nationalist at all because I'm American, but then people treat me like I'm racist and nationalist because I'm from America. There's this Catch 22, where the rest of the world won't let America not be ignornant fuckheads, but expects us not to be anyway, so we're just universally hated. People inside the country whine that the government sucks, but they don't try to do anything about it. They complain how the whole politics system sucks, and protest it by not getting involved. People refuse to vote because there isn't a candidate specifically tailored to their own beliefs. You're not allowed to be in the middle, you have to be either left or right, and if you're not you're just hated by everyone. It's always left vs right, but both suck. The right are the fucking backwards ones, who ruin the country yet think they rule the world. They edge the country towards totalitarianism every chance they get. They're the people who read 1984, and say, Hey, this is a pretty good idea! Then there's the left, who read 1984 and say Man, we gotta protest this! Lets protest it by doing NOTHING, that'll show 'em! The whole Clinton vs Obama thing was ridiculous. They were basically the same candidate ideologically, yet people were pitting them against eachother like it was Bush vs Gore again. The people who supported Obama hated Clinton just for being Clinton, the same assbackwards way the Republicans hate Clinton for being Clinton. There's no difference between Republicans and Democrats, they're the same idiots just preaching the other side. Obama supporters are cultist like Ron Paul supporters are. The country's hipocrisy rivals 1984's DoubleThink. Republicans yell at Democrats for doing exactly what the Republicans are doing. Democrats let themselves get fucked in the ass, and when they get some power they either shoot themselves in the foot, or do nothing at all, the great wait-it-out tactic lol. People whine about the economy when they're still in fucking middle class despite the economy going to shit. They bawwwwwwww about gas being so high, but all that does is mean they have to remove luxury expenses. The lower class really is going to shit, whether they drive or not, because the price of food, electricity, gas (for house heating), and all appliances and services are going up, without wages going up, which only further hurts the entire economy. So people decide to counter this by whining, and doing nothing else. Instead of finding a way to fix the problem technologically, they just blame people for the problem. You're so socially expected to do and have things that you're a complete enigma when you don't want them. My biggest complaint is the technology thing. People are afraid of all forms of technology they don't already own, it's ridiculous. People look down on the sciences, even though the sciences is what brought them all of their creature comforts. People are so un-laid-back it's retarded. Everyone is busy with their life-drama, if they're not busy watching soap-operas on tv. Reality shows are fucking retarded. Most movies coming out fucking suck too. America is just flawed by being socially backwards, and by educating the new generations to be socially backwards. We throw out everything that ever made us great, and then try to bring the world down around us. Look at all the shitty things happening in other countries as result of the US? All this terrorism scare shit? And we're in a war and losing? We're the fucking United States who fought back the nazi regime to Berlin and we can't occupy an oil field in the middle of a desert? And the people we're occupying for some strange reason don't want to be occupied but we can't imagine why... Doesn't everyone like being occupied by Americans? Look at Israel, fucking up shit in Lebanon. Since when has Israel had the privillege to fuck up a war and come out fine? It used to be, if Israel lost a war they'd lose their country, so they didn't lose wars, and didn't start fights they didn't need or couldn't finish, but the US has made them so lazy they start random fights now wtf. The United States just isn't capable of living not in a state of Cold War yet I guess. Everyone who was raised and educated in the Cold War is educating their children like it's the Cold War, except without any pressure to learn maths and sciences. Which just leaves everyone regressive and backwards about the Cold War present -.- Then the rest of the world talks to us like we're crap and wonders why we don't like them, but still expects us to do shit for them, then complains we're too involved in the rest of the world's affairs. Our politics in general is hillarious. McCain, a tortured war hero is condoning torture, lol. Kerry gets flamed for being a veteran by a draft dodger. Obama is called a terrorist, wtf. The right flames McCain the whole election, and when he wins the nomination he's suddenly their hero. Clinton has the nomination in the bag, then manages to do everything wrong assuming she's still won the election, and doesn't figure out she might lose and restructures her campaign until it's too late. McCain pushes and supports everything Bush made and did, but people prefer him because he's not black and isn't a woman. Then liberals start gathering around Ron Paul as their hero, even when he openly denounces the theories of evolution. Clinton supporters are such blind idiots they try and threaten Obama supporters by saying they'll vote for McCain over Obama when it makes no sense to do so, especially when Obama ideologically is basically just a more charismatic Clinton. People vote or vote against Obama because he's black, Clinton because she's a woman, why does shit like that even matter in the 21st century, in the land of oppourtunities and freedom? People worship violence, drugs, alcohol, hate education, it's silly lol. If you don't mind racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, a fear of progress and a tendacy towards social and technological regression, the United States is great! Atleast we accept our capitalism and don't try and call it socialism. No kidding, I agree with all of that stuff. Probably the most painful realization when I got out of high school and into college was how stupid everyone else is. People are retarded! And these same people are VOTING, using retarded logic! Prettymuch, I wish there was an entrance exam before you voted, just to test your competency. I know that is terrible to say but sometimes I'm sick of the idiocy in this country. | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
On June 20 2008 08:00 nemY wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq-kK7GEb7M lol, that. | ||
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overpool
United States191 Posts
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Solarian
United States100 Posts
Fuck the election process. It's not a fucking popularity contest, IT'S FOR THE FUCKING LEADER OF OUR FUCKING COUNTRY GODDAMMIT VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO IS ACTUALLY QUALIFIED NOT JUST SOME FUCKING RICH PERSON WHO CAN PAY TO HAVE THEIR FUCKING NAME PLASTERED EVERY FUCKING WHERE Also, fuck MTV and our health care. Ahem... Also, I laugh every time I watch that. | ||
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KwarK
United States43195 Posts
On June 20 2008 08:00 nemY wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq-kK7GEb7M Top Gear is just awesome. | ||
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friendofsam
Ireland9 Posts
On June 20 2008 06:55 Elwood Blues wrote: because the local school district cut back on its Spanish program but installed plasma televisions in the entry hall of the high school Holy shit. What, out of curiosity, is on the screens when you walk into school? Like, do they just put it on a normal channel or they broadcast stuff just for the school? Are the tv's on the entire school day? | ||
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kyjori
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EGoldman
United States110 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:37 Elsi wrote: Great Britain Great my arse!! I see the Americans complaining about Petrol/Diesel prices, ever been to the UK at all? We Pay £1.30 per litre for Petrol. Works out as $11 per gallon. Pretty expensive? Quite a few foreigners and illegal immigrants are now descending to the UK now, far too many in people’s eyes. They all want come to the UK because we're soft as hell. "Welcome to the UK, we will provide you accommodation, free health care, a job and free education" It's a joke! You seen how many Poles/Lithuanians and other Eastern European people now working in the UK? No offence guys, but it’s true! We give asylum to certain people, who then criticise the UK, excuse me? We gave you a better life from the shithole you came from and now your preaching to people about killing British Citizens and criticising the way British People live? Very strange! Tax and VAT is a major problem here too! It’s ridiculous how much Tax we pay on Clothes, Petrol, Alcohol, Cigarettes and so on. This isn't a fun rant on your country, this is some racist garbage. Kindly stfu and keep your xenophobic thoughts to yourself. You're like a ten year old child crying that things aren't fair. Go talk to the hundreds of millions of people who's nations were ruined because of the British Empire and give reparations for that, then have your sulk about blah blah free this and that. It's a wonder the UK's never been held accountable for the hundreds of years of open rape, robbery, and barbarism that they've committed. Go open a book and maybe you won't be so angsty about all these perceived wrongs. | ||
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yn01_
Canada149 Posts
On June 20 2008 08:37 overpool wrote: There are too many dumb people in America. Amen. | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
This is the bash your own country thread, if you feel like fellating yourself for your nationality, go to the OTHER thread. On June 20 2008 09:57 il0seonpurpose wrote: I just realized that nobody talked about china Heh what a surprise. | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:07 KrAzYfoOL wrote: Australia has shitty internet. | ||
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Chuiu
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On June 20 2008 09:57 il0seonpurpose wrote: I just realized that nobody talked about china On June 20 2008 03:47 Newbistic wrote: Wow not a lot of people bitching about China, that is.... nationalism? China excels at blowing ass, mostly because the people there suck. -Virtually 100% of the homeless population has disabilities, and are left to rot on the side of the streets. -Taking the taxi? If the guy knows you're from out of town, he'll run in fucking circles to drain your wallet even if where you're going is across the fucking street. Sometimes they try to do it even if you're not from out of town. -Going to the doctor? 90% of them will tell you to bend over so they can shove their dick up your bank account with a calm, reassuring smile. -Need to go to a public bathroom? Well don't ask me, I won't even fucking talk to you. -You're a woman holding a small child waiting for a bus/subway, and it has empty seats? Well fuck you, you get pushed into the side, your child gets smashed against the side of the bus, and 34802839434 people charge through the door before waiting for people to come out. -Visiting a historic old town tourist attraction? You're in luck, as soon as your car pulls into the parking spot 78932447892 vendors rush up to you to offer a map, then follow you like zombies after brains. and the entire fucking "historic" town is desecrated by small, worthless souvenir stores. -Waiting in line at the grocery store? Oops! a stupid bitch getting her foodstuffs checked out finds a "price discrepancy" and starts arguing loud as fuck for 5 minutes straight on something the cashier can't do anything about. Repeat 234908290348x until its your turn. -You're somebody's pet trying to cross a road? Shit out of luck, not only do cars NOT stop or try to avoid you, they'll actually turn TOWARDS you and try to run you over, you know, for fun. -Running a company that needs things from overseas? That sucks for you too. You send a delegate, who then "bargains" with the salesman to sell your company whatever for 25% MORE than they're actually worth, in return for a bribe. GG. -Restaurants in the middle of winter with no air conditioning, people coughing all over the fucking place, and no tissues or napkins are available. At all. That's not even counting the slave labor done by overseas companies, millions of farmers still without electricity, and millions of other workers who are trying to make it in a system where actual human beings are as scarce as dead bodies in my living room. | ||
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EGoldman
United States110 Posts
p.s. To talk about my own country, In the USA, 80% of families have not bought or read a book in the past year! 1/3rd of all High School students never read another book for the rest of their lives. Of all the kids that go on to college, 43% of them never read a book again for the rest of their lives! Go America! Go intellectuals!! | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
Oh nice find, thanks. Hope that guy doesnt go to jail | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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demonic_phate
United States442 Posts
On June 20 2008 09:43 EGoldman wrote: This isn't a fun rant on your country, this is some racist garbage. Kindly stfu and keep your xenophobic thoughts to yourself. You're like a ten year old child crying that things aren't fair. Go talk to the hundreds of millions of people who's nations were ruined because of the British Empire and give reparations for that, then have your sulk about blah blah free this and that. It's a wonder the UK's never been held accountable for the hundreds of years of open rape, robbery, and barbarism that they've committed. Go open a book and maybe you won't be so angsty about all these perceived wrongs. its a fun rant on your country topic... and what elsi wrote was a fun rant... how in the WORLD was it racist? You speak of how the British Empire was barbaric and inhumane when A) I'm pretty damn sure elsi didnt have shit to do with it and is just having fun and B) hell, as if america had an absolutely clean human rights record. hmmm, native americans anyone? oh yeah and C) I'm also pretty damn sure you weren't at the receiving end of ANY of these attrocities so why the hell complain? | ||
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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Cobalt
United States441 Posts
Well, considering it's the Internet, people would probably still say "Amen." | ||
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
On June 20 2008 03:47 Newbistic wrote: -You're a woman holding a small child waiting for a bus/subway, and it has empty seats? Well fuck you, you get pushed into the side, your child gets smashed against the side of the bus, and 34802839434 people charge through the door before waiting for people to come out. LOL This reminds me of taking the D train in NYC and getting to "Grand Street Station" which is where the Manhattan Chinatown is. | ||
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
On June 19 2008 17:23 jjun212 wrote: Why would you, the government want to fuck over your young students.) So they can stick it up your ass when ever they want are you really going to complain when your $100k in debt and need the job. Ofcourse your not your boss can treat you like shit and he knows you wont do anything because you need to the money. On June 19 2008 16:22 MyLostTemple wrote: my country is full of retards who actually worry that gay marriage is bad, like the guy above me. oh and fuck bush btw. On June 19 2008 17:41 eugene17 wrote: + Show Spoiler + third world country. super corrupt politicians with their huge cars and huge mansions. our little president prick is killing journalists (she will go to the depths of hell). getting her propaganda working with ads and campaigns telling the public that her term was the best. fucking terrorists down south is keeping tourists away. huge taxes eating my salary and yet they don't account anything. school's expensive and only a small portion of the population can afford to do so. heat of day is killing my skin. sudden tropical rains are so weird. 2nd rate citizen in your own country. fake security checks on your bags everytime you go anywhere. GAS IS EXPENSIVE dependence on foreign oil. largest importer of rice in the world. natural resources are getting lambasted. werid culture wherein if you work hard or go work to a different country everybody in your clan would depend on you. pseudo conservative beliefs. third world country we have great beaches though! On June 19 2008 22:03 Jayson X wrote: Italy - My house got fucking robbed 3 times in one month. The first two were at least decent enough to not take the metal frame of the beds. And what insane person steals my hot sauce stash? My fucking aunt made that you sons of a bitches. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. Fuck You. On June 20 2008 04:37 Ancestral wrote: Mexicans work harder than you anyway. Maybe if we didn't try to keep them all in their own country and punish them when they come here Mexico would be a slightly better place. Mexico has made huge strides to become a freer country and we still act like they're in the third world. --- Here's me bashing my own country with other people's words. On June 19 2008 16:26 ._. wrote: Christians.Rednecks.And shitty shitty music from MTV, and also a trashy modern culture of superficiality. On June 19 2008 18:10 Alizee- wrote: FUCK our biased media machine of bullshit that makes up whatever they wanna make up FUCK the suburbanites who care about nothing other than a green lawn and a white plastic fence FUCK! On June 20 2008 01:55 Wasabi wrote: USA: We are what we eat. You American fat fucks. I would rather worry about improving the quality of food, and reduce its health risks than worrying about socialized health care. That would largely solve the main cause of death in the states, which is heart disease. You American dumbasses, if you want to die eating unhealthy food it's your choice. On June 20 2008 02:55 OneBlueAugust wrote: Things I hate about the US: Way too many people act like they're enlightened, but in fact they harbor ridiculously close-minded ideas that only come out when they think they're among like-minded people. A ton of people base their lives on what they see on TV. The shallowness and petty-mindedness that I have to deal with on a regular basis sickens me. Comformity is encouraged, especially in the workplace. The culture that says Obesity is a disease, and that the fatasses can't help themselves. Everywhere I go, some fat cow is riding around on a motorized cart, being helped out of the store by some unlucky employee. They're fucking slobs, and they're catered to. If we didn't support these fatasses so much, they'd be forced to lose some weight just so that they could walk around the grocery store enough to buy the massive quantities of food it takes to feed them. The people that still claim that America was founded by religious zealots, and so religion should still be included in our government and school systems. The subculture of "gangsta" dumbasses. It's not cool to be an uneducated, mouth-breathing moron with 8 kids that you don't support, you fucking retards. It's also not cool to dress in clothes that look like shit that cost hundreds of dollars, and carry around that debt on a credit card that you default on. I hope you accidentally shoot yourself in the balls with your "gat" when you're running down the street, holding up your pants with one hand. BTW, this isn't racially motivated, as I hate all "gangsta" idiots equally. In fact, the suburb versions of these morons are worse, as they don't have any economic reason to be that way. The fact that people allow themselves to be scared into supporting things like the "Patriot Act". The fact that people complain about gas prices, all the while driving their Suburban / Expedition to work... By themselves. Buy a sensible car and gas prices wouldn't affect you 1/10th as much you idiots. I could go on... But I won't. On June 20 2008 03:15 Louder wrote: USA sucks because no one has killed Bush yet =( On June 20 2008 04:01 friendofsam wrote: America is the greatest extant example of a truly brainwashed, deeply mentally enslaved people, like in dystopian totalitarianism like 1984 the book. We get abused and exploited by this country, and then we turn around and praise and love the country that fucks us over. it's because, unlike in civilized countries like ones in Europe, Americans are trained to have these feelings from birth. forced to recite the "pledge of allegiance" in a supposedly free country. the news here is just state propaganda, they never criticize the government or the corporations, all they say on TV is a constantly blaring message of "AMERICA IS THE GREATEST" and that is why so many retarded americans have this attitude. i fucking hate this country so much, i am so eager to leave and be somewhere else. --- Oh and me on Mexico. Yes I'm Mexican. Truly hate those mother fucking people who put buckets on the street so you can't park and you have to pay them to move them or else you are going to have to find another spot. The assholes who wave a piece of cloth telling you how to pull out of your parking spot and expecting themselves to get paid for it. How your windshields gets washed at every red light you come to. How the cops do absolutely nothing about these people. How the cops do absolutely nothing in general except rip you off themselves. How when people see your license plate being from the America and then having 20 people come up to you offering you a $2 USD piece of gum which doesn't fucking cost $2 USD. How everyone everywhere tries to rip you off everywhere you go. How my dad was stopped for a "regular fucking inspection" seeing that the license plate was from America TWICE. And how the police checked his wallet both times. Too bad he only had a 20 dollar american bill on him you dip shits my mom was carrying the rest of the money. Oh and lastly how when your about to cross the border your asked about 50 times how much money your carrying into the country by everyone not just including customs, but from the police, to the mother fucking security guards. Only $200 good sir. FUCK YOU! Sigh, this very fun. ^^ | ||
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
On June 20 2008 06:52 Nightmarjoo wrote: United States + Show Spoiler + I love my country, and I love living here, especially when I hear how things are outside of the country, but there's still plenty I dislike, mostly the people. The school I go to is the best public school in the state (Ohio), yet it's in like the worst public school district. The country in general fucks the education system horribly. Kids are educated to be stupid slobs so that the media is successful, people care about celebrities, everyone is a bunch of ignorant xenophobic socially backwards animals. I don't do anything or put any effort into school, while being at a school ranked #276 in the whole country, and I get top grades in the "hardest" classes, and everyone tells me how great and smart I am, and it's only because everyone is fucking stupid. But it's not really their fault, because they're being bred to be stupid. Education is shifting from being a system to force Americans to compete and hopefully be superior (educationally) to people around the world (namely, smarter than the soviets) to being a fucking day-care. I'm not allowed to think in terms of stereotypes or be racist or sexist at all even when I see these stereotypes overwhelmingly on a daily basis. My school district is 80% "black" and 20% "white" even though, everyone who's not black (asians, hispanics, which apparently covers everyone not "black" or "white") is also part of "white". People don't just think it's cool to be dumb, it really is cool to be stupid and be "gangsta". Half of fucking bnet even calls people their "niggas" and talks in butchered "ghetto" english, and half of fucking bnet isn't even just americans wtf. The majority of the people I see at school on a daily basis are aggressive black men/boys and shrieking black girls/women. I wish they sounded like chimps, they'd be easier to listen to. Most of the white people are worse, in that they actually copy this stupid behavior because it's "cool". My school is so ahead of the rest of the district, that they've decided to level out the playing field so we don't feel too elitist. They do this by dragging my school down to fail with the rest of the schools so no one looks "bad". It's fucking bullshit. The No Child Left Behind Act fucking butchered education. All it does is take kids who don't want to succeed, and put them in "good" schools to try and help them. But since they've been socially taught to not learn or succeed, all they do is bring the whole school down. I'm supposed to compete with the rest of the world, but my country is socially teaching all kids to be stupid, so the media and education caters to stupid people. We really aren't taught to learn a foreign language. We have mandatory foreign language classes, but most of the time you really aren't expected to learn the language, just pass the class. The fact that you can pass a language class without learning the language alone is ridiculous. Most of the country it seems like are fundamentalist conservative right wing morons who are xenophobic, homophobic, classist, and afraid of technology and progress. This results in the rest of the world out-competing us in every area. We've thrown aside the things that made us the most powerful country under this vague notion that we'll just always be the best, despite that we're slipping behind the world. Since I'm American, any argument I ever make online is dismissed because I'm American. I'm not allowed to point out people wrong in my country, because it's not socially acceptable to be intelligent. I'm not allowed to point out people wrong outside of my country, because I'm an American slob. I'm not allowed to be racist or nationalist at all because I'm American, but then people treat me like I'm racist and nationalist because I'm from America. There's this Catch 22, where the rest of the world won't let America not be ignornant fuckheads, but expects us not to be anyway, so we're just universally hated. People inside the country whine that the government sucks, but they don't try to do anything about it. They complain how the whole politics system sucks, and protest it by not getting involved. People refuse to vote because there isn't a candidate specifically tailored to their own beliefs. You're not allowed to be in the middle, you have to be either left or right, and if you're not you're just hated by everyone. It's always left vs right, but both suck. The right are the fucking backwards ones, who ruin the country yet think they rule the world. They edge the country towards totalitarianism every chance they get. They're the people who read 1984, and say, Hey, this is a pretty good idea! Then there's the left, who read 1984 and say Man, we gotta protest this! Lets protest it by doing NOTHING, that'll show 'em! The whole Clinton vs Obama thing was ridiculous. They were basically the same candidate ideologically, yet people were pitting them against eachother like it was Bush vs Gore again. The people who supported Obama hated Clinton just for being Clinton, the same assbackwards way the Republicans hate Clinton for being Clinton. There's no difference between Republicans and Democrats, they're the same idiots just preaching the other side. Obama supporters are cultist like Ron Paul supporters are. The country's hipocrisy rivals 1984's DoubleThink. Republicans yell at Democrats for doing exactly what the Republicans are doing. Democrats let themselves get fucked in the ass, and when they get some power they either shoot themselves in the foot, or do nothing at all, the great wait-it-out tactic lol. People whine about the economy when they're still in fucking middle class despite the economy going to shit. They bawwwwwwww about gas being so high, but all that does is mean they have to remove luxury expenses. The lower class really is going to shit, whether they drive or not, because the price of food, electricity, gas (for house heating), and all appliances and services are going up, without wages going up, which only further hurts the entire economy. So people decide to counter this by whining, and doing nothing else. Instead of finding a way to fix the problem technologically, they just blame people for the problem. You're so socially expected to do and have things that you're a complete enigma when you don't want them. My biggest complaint is the technology thing. People are afraid of all forms of technology they don't already own, it's ridiculous. People look down on the sciences, even though the sciences is what brought them all of their creature comforts. People are so un-laid-back it's retarded. Everyone is busy with their life-drama, if they're not busy watching soap-operas on tv. Reality shows are fucking retarded. Most movies coming out fucking suck too. America is just flawed by being socially backwards, and by educating the new generations to be socially backwards. We throw out everything that ever made us great, and then try to bring the world down around us. Look at all the shitty things happening in other countries as result of the US? All this terrorism scare shit? And we're in a war and losing? We're the fucking United States who fought back the nazi regime to Berlin and we can't occupy an oil field in the middle of a desert? And the people we're occupying for some strange reason don't want to be occupied but we can't imagine why... Doesn't everyone like being occupied by Americans? Look at Israel, fucking up shit in Lebanon. Since when has Israel had the privillege to fuck up a war and come out fine? It used to be, if Israel lost a war they'd lose their country, so they didn't lose wars, and didn't start fights they didn't need or couldn't finish, but the US has made them so lazy they start random fights now wtf. The United States just isn't capable of living not in a state of Cold War yet I guess. Everyone who was raised and educated in the Cold War is educating their children like it's the Cold War, except without any pressure to learn maths and sciences. Which just leaves everyone regressive and backwards about the Cold War present -.- Then the rest of the world talks to us like we're crap and wonders why we don't like them, but still expects us to do shit for them, then complains we're too involved in the rest of the world's affairs. Our politics in general is hillarious. McCain, a tortured war hero is condoning torture, lol. Kerry gets flamed for being a veteran by a draft dodger. Obama is called a terrorist, wtf. The right flames McCain the whole election, and when he wins the nomination he's suddenly their hero. Clinton has the nomination in the bag, then manages to do everything wrong assuming she's still won the election, and doesn't figure out she might lose and restructures her campaign until it's too late. McCain pushes and supports everything Bush made and did, but people prefer him because he's not black and isn't a woman. Then liberals start gathering around Ron Paul as their hero, even when he openly denounces the theories of evolution. Clinton supporters are such blind idiots they try and threaten Obama supporters by saying they'll vote for McCain over Obama when it makes no sense to do so, especially when Obama ideologically is basically just a more charismatic Clinton. People vote or vote against Obama because he's black, Clinton because she's a woman, why does shit like that even matter in the 21st century, in the land of oppourtunities and freedom? People worship violence, drugs, alcohol, hate education, it's silly lol. If you don't mind racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, a fear of progress and a tendacy towards social and technological regression, the United States is great! Atleast we accept our capitalism and don't try and call it socialism. Wow, fucking epic and agree 1,000%. | ||
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Pwntrucci[sR]
Canada1519 Posts
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kirtar111
United States72 Posts
On June 20 2008 13:27 Pwntrucci[sR] wrote: Er, what's the deal with all this book stuff. Everyone is saying people are retarded cuz they don't read books. I don't get it, do books magically make you intelligent and media-literate? Do I need more books? What will happen if I don't read books, will I get scurvee? I mean, I read books, but just for fun. What's a book that will make me learn a bunch of cool words that make me look intelligent on forums? Will harry potter do? I've read those. Do dragon ball books count? What will reading a book teach me that watching Dancing with the Stars won't? What language should I read these books in? Are there any books about books? Maybe a "Books for idiots"? .. ... ... I hope and pray to the gods in heaven above that you are joking. | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On June 20 2008 13:27 Pwntrucci[sR] wrote: I don't think they're referring to the fact that people don't read books, but mostly the mentality that people seem to have that reading books makes you a nerd, queer, geek, or whatever (I've actually had some people openly mock me when they saw me reading aSoIaF...cunts).Er, what's the deal with all this book stuff. Everyone is saying people are retarded cuz they don't read books. I don't get it, do books magically make you intelligent and media-literate? Do I need more books? What will happen if I don't read books, will I get scurvee? I mean, I read books, but just for fun. What's a book that will make me learn a bunch of cool words that make me look intelligent on forums? Will harry potter do? I've read those. Do dragon ball books count? What will reading a book teach me that watching Dancing with the Stars won't? What language should I read these books in? Are there any books about books? Maybe a "Books for idiots"? .. ... ... | ||
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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
People, generally college age people, get all up in arms about some issue, which is fine. Then, to solve the problem, and REALLY stick it to the man, they join a facebook group that vaguely protests the opposing side in its title...and thats it. All these dumbasses pat themselves on the back thinking, "I saved the people in Darfur, because that group just went from 543,319 people that don't actually do anything about the situation to 543,320 people that don't actually do anything about the situation." Everybody protests everything, but nobody does anything worthwhile about it, so it all stays the same/gets worse. | ||
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Play
Australia608 Posts
Internet is just as bad, but at least they can't but bs on it...actually...its probably so slow so people revert back to TV so they can get brainwashed | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On June 19 2008 18:35 grobo wrote: This. I fucking hate the fact that our government is so retarded it's almost painful, can't wait till i'm out of this piece of shit country. Swedish democracy, what a joke... its like..the patriot act | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
Motherfucker, my gateway! Aw... fuck. Yeah, right, my life for Aiur. I didn't sign up for this shit. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On June 20 2008 14:13 SonuvBob wrote: Some probe on bumfuck Shakuras can just up and warp our pylons over there. You little robot cat piece of shit, I was using that pylon! Now how am I supposed to power my gateway? Motherfucker, my gateway! Aw... fuck. Yeah, right, my life for Aiur. I didn't sign up for this shit. :D | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On June 20 2008 14:13 SonuvBob wrote: Some probe on bumfuck Shakuras can just up and warp our pylons over there. You little robot cat piece of shit, I was using that pylon! Now how am I supposed to power my gateway? Motherfucker, my gateway! Aw... fuck. Yeah, right, my life for Aiur. I didn't sign up for this shit. Get real Bob. Everyone knows twilight >>> jungle. lolol bumfuck Shakuras | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
On June 20 2008 13:39 Falcynn wrote: I don't think they're referring to the fact that people don't read books, but mostly the mentality that people seem to have that reading books makes you a nerd, queer, geek, or whatever (I've actually had some people openly mock me when they saw me reading aSoIaF...cunts). I think that's correct. Learning new things is considered "uncool" or "nerdy" these days. Stupidity isn't a problem by itself, the problem is that stupidity is considered cool by teenagers etc. Intelligent people always do *something* to expand their horizon (for example, read various books). Dumb people never do anything new. | ||
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Cobalt
United States441 Posts
However, about the originally posted statistics (~40% of college grads never read a book again, etc.), I would agree with the whole "mindset" thing. Those who want to learn and are interested in learning about different topics are probably going to read a book on those topics at one point. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 20 2008 22:14 0xDEADBEEF wrote: I think that's correct. Learning new things is considered "uncool" or "nerdy" these days. Stupidity isn't a problem by itself, the problem is that stupidity is considered cool by teenagers etc. Intelligent people always do *something* to expand their horizon (for example, read various books). Dumb people never do anything new. Disagree. Young people aren't reading as much, but adults are probably reading more than they were 10 years ago. Book clubs are pretty commonplace even for the people that watch Dancing with the Stars and I'm sure they can all tell you about the super popular books like Kite Runner or Snow or 1776. Plus people are getting more into documentaries than they have been before. Honestly, I think most of the intelligence bashing is purely based on ignorance. You guys haven't traveled around and lived all over the country. You probably haven't traveled very far or know that many people within your own state. Probably somewhere along the line some comedian just said everyone below Ohio is an idiot, and naive people have been repeating it over and over again since then. People are dumb because they voted for Bush? Please, that's one of the most ignorant opinions you can have, right up there with the loud black women and monkeys comment. It's not like we voted on whether 2+2=5. Fox News? On a huge night, they may get 7 million viewers. 7/300. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
On June 20 2008 13:56 Lemonwalrus wrote: This may not be strictly American, but it pisses me off nonetheless. People, generally college age people, get all up in arms about some issue, which is fine. Then, to solve the problem, and REALLY stick it to the man, they join a facebook group that vaguely protests the opposing side in its title...and thats it. All these dumbasses pat themselves on the back thinking, "I saved the people in Darfur, because that group just went from 543,319 people that don't actually do anything about the situation to 543,320 people that don't actually do anything about the situation." Everybody protests everything, but nobody does anything worthwhile about it, so it all stays the same/gets worse. That's more of a facebook thing no? Yes, let's all hate on facebook. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32083 Posts
On June 20 2008 06:38 Ancestral wrote: Yeah Titus, that gangsta-ness is out of control. And I have absolutely no idea what can be done about that, or if anyone is even trying to address it. Though, I would think this is pretty true of the youths in many countries. A lot of people don't have the balls to say something, because that easily can be taken as racist. I mean, I'm all for listening to whatever the fuck you want and dressing how you want, but a lot of people don't keep in mind you have to grow the fuck up and get a real job one day. | ||
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EGoldman
United States110 Posts
How do you argue with reading zero books? I don't care if people talk about "oh, I could read a trashy pulp novel, or a manga, but that doesn't mean I got smarter." If you read zero books then guess how many books of knowledge you're reading? Oh, that's right. Due to the laws of arithmetic that would be ZERO. ZERO books. Now if someone is reading 30 books, what are the chances of one of them being a book of something useful? ALOT more than zero. And you know what? It doesn't matter what book you read. It will expand your horizons. A writer is not going to get published if he/she is bringing nothing new/interesting to the table. A book might not have all the info, but it will spark a person's interest enough that they'll be willing to go and research it. Does TV do that? No. Other than documentaries, TV is pure time wasting. It's low brow entertainment that doesn't spark interest in much at all. There are a few good channels like history, sci-fi, cooking, etc. But "primetime TV" is just garbage. It takes time, concentration, and focus to read a book. Those are all things that are conducive to studying. Electricity, cable service, and a TV are necessary to watch TV. Nothing else. Books make a huge difference in helping people to develop their minds and thinking capability. The people who are crying so hard about books not being important are the same ones who never read a damn book. I wonder why they think it's not useful. And sorry, Wikipedia is a great source for information, but it's a joke if you're talking about real study. Wikipedia is far from comprehensive. It's the equivalent of trying to become a physicist by reading the Encyclopedia entry on quantum mechanics. It gives the briefest of definitions, it is FAR from being much of a real learning experience. That is unless you're truly ignorant on a topic, then Wiki will teach you something. But I guess the problem nowadays is nobody cares about learning at all. If it doesn't concern their job or their ability to get pussy/cock, then they just don't care. | ||
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EGoldman
United States110 Posts
On June 20 2008 22:51 Jibba wrote: Disagree. Young people aren't reading as much, but adults are probably reading more than they were 10 years ago. Book clubs are pretty commonplace even for the people that watch Dancing with the Stars and I'm sure they can all tell you about the super popular books like Kite Runner or Snow or 1776. Plus people are getting more into documentaries than they have been before. Honestly, I think most of the intelligence bashing is purely based on ignorance. You guys haven't traveled around and lived all over the country. You probably haven't traveled very far or know that many people within your own state. Probably somewhere along the line some comedian just said everyone below Ohio is an idiot, and naive people have been repeating it over and over again since then. People are dumb because they voted for Bush? Please, that's one of the most ignorant opinions you can have, right up there with the loud black women and monkeys comment. It's not like we voted on whether 2+2=5. Fox News? On a huge night, they may get 7 million viewers. 7/300. Btw, Jibba, care to cite sources for your information? Or did you visit your grandma's and suddenly you're a sociological authority on reading habits in the USA? Adults are probably reading more than they were 10 years ago because book clubs are commonplace? Tbh though, it's not a recent development. It's ALWAYS been this way. And that's why your argument is flawed. You talk about intelligence bashing, but sorry, the population has been and always will be about 10% intelligent, 90% stupid. That's just the way the world works. So, no matter how hard you argue, you're not going to escape the fact that the vast majority of humans are idiots. And sorry, people ARE dumb if they voted for Bush. Anyone who takes the time to get informed on the history and policies that the candidate espoused and his actions in office would be hard pressed to vote for him if they had an IQ that got anywhere above 15. P.S. I've traveled around and lived in plenty of places in the country, east coast, west coast, down south. It's all the same tbh. People are idiots wherever you go. There are dumb liberals and conservatives. Although voting for Bush is enough of a tag to 100% condemn you as ignorant. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32083 Posts
On June 20 2008 07:14 fgsvsd wrote: Thread win? A lot of that kinda resonated in me even though I've never lived in America. Weird huh? Pretty fucking spot on. Only thing is, it was libertarians, not liberals, who were behind Ron Paul =p | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 20 2008 23:18 EGoldman wrote: Btw, Jibba, care to cite sources for your information? Or did you visit your grandma's and suddenly you're a sociological authority on reading habits in the USA? Adults are probably reading more than they were 10 years ago because book clubs are commonplace? Tbh though, it's not a recent development. It's ALWAYS been this way. And that's why your argument is flawed. You talk about intelligence bashing, but sorry, the population has been and always will be about 10% intelligent, 90% stupid. That's just the way the world works. So, no matter how hard you argue, you're not going to escape the fact that the vast majority of humans are idiots. And sorry, people ARE dumb if they voted for Bush. Anyone who takes the time to get informed on the history and policies that the candidate espoused and his actions in office would be hard pressed to vote for him if they had an IQ that got anywhere above 15. P.S. I've traveled around and lived in plenty of places in the country, east coast, west coast, down south. It's all the same tbh. People are idiots wherever you go. There are dumb liberals and conservatives. Although voting for Bush is enough of a tag to 100% condemn you as ignorant. Hi, I am going to criticize your use of uncited statistics. Oh hey, want to see some of my own uncited statistics? Weeeeeeeeeeeeee! Anyone who took the time to get informed on the history and policies that the candidate espoused would have had an equally tough time voting for Kerry. Honestly, if all you want to do is push around blanket statements then I'm not even going to bother. You can't judge a person's intelligence based on a single vote. Political propaganda tells you you can, but really you can't. | ||
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Mischy
United States179 Posts
On June 20 2008 22:51 Jibba wrote: Disagree. Young people aren't reading as much, but adults are probably reading more than they were 10 years ago. Book clubs are pretty commonplace even for the people that watch Dancing with the Stars and I'm sure they can all tell you about the super popular books like Kite Runner or Snow or 1776. Plus people are getting more into documentaries than they have been before. Honestly, I think most of the intelligence bashing is purely based on ignorance. You guys haven't traveled around and lived all over the country. You probably haven't traveled very far or know that many people within your own state. Probably somewhere along the line some comedian just said everyone below Ohio is an idiot, and naive people have been repeating it over and over again since then. People are dumb because they voted for Bush? Please, that's one of the most ignorant opinions you can have, right up there with the loud black women and monkeys comment. It's not like we voted on whether 2+2=5. Fox News? On a huge night, they may get 7 million viewers. 7/300. http://www.nea.gov/news/news04/ReadingAtRisk.html http://www.mediafamily.org/facts/facts_tveffect.shtml Well actually according to the NEA report reading hasn't increased at all in adults over the years for any age group. The 2nd link posted shows effects of television and reading combined. Purely based on the "intelligence" that i've witnessed in the 37 states that i've been to, I say the bashing is fair. | ||
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
-i hate how in the medias, the big privatized enterprizes(formely public run) like electricity suppliers and endless other large scale organisations/operations there seems to be a closed circle of incredible incompetent and dumb people who on top of all think they are clever who run them. new people wont make it a meter if they do not walk the line. this way they are run in an anachronistic way that ist so inefficient you want to scream. i hate our union bosses. -i hate how everyone grudges everyone anythin. hell if you violate some traffic rule which affects nobody, people will be sour because they obeyed it and you did not. -i hate policemen or even worse people at some public agencies who dont think but just apply some ridicolous law, no matter what. or in general people how replaced thinking with rules. - i hate our unmatched self-righteous intellectual middle class, which drinks its hot chocolate with ginger. -i hate that we are educated to be sissy wimps since ww2. -i hate that the ideal man is supposed to be a woman. - i hate all the mediocrity. same chances for everyone = make a cap for the good ones. ( i think thats changing at least). - i hate how many people dont seem do understand that they are responsible for their lives. it is seriously a common attitude to think that you have a DAMN right on this and that and the fucking state is in his debt to provide it for you. you obey the state ( respectivly trick it to think you obeyed) and in return he cares for you. OH HOW I HATE THIS ATTITUDE. they want to move through a staked out path of live claiming their given rights. -i hate the status quo and how every inch of political/structural progress is blocked so hard, its not even funny. -the list goes on ofc | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
It's definitely worse than I thought. I still don't buy your last line. Having traveled to 37 states doesn't mean anything. Even if it is true that most people are stupid, it's simply something that most people can't possibly conclude on a rational basis. At best, you probably have a decent idea of the intelligence level of hotel staff, gas station attendants and waiters from those 37 states. | ||
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Mickey
United States2606 Posts
However, in my opinion it can be described to one word, and one world only Ignorance. | ||
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sqwert
United States781 Posts
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Kacas
Brazil3143 Posts
that´s all that brazil have =/ | ||
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Mischy
United States179 Posts
On June 21 2008 00:21 Jibba wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/US/WireStory?id=3507898&page=1 It's definitely worse than I thought. I still don't buy your last line. Having traveled to 37 states doesn't mean anything. Even if it is true that most people are stupid, it's simply something that most people can't possibly conclude on a rational basis. At best, you probably have a decent idea of the intelligence level of hotel staff, gas station attendants and waiters from those 37 states. Well I lived in 20 states. You're right, I didn't spend my time with well-renowned scientists or any great philosophers I spent time with average americans; doctors, lawyers, professors along with people who worked at a 7-11 or Mickey D's or just basic outlet stores and offices etc. My conclusion is obviously based on my experience with the amount of people that i've come across...the overall intelligence in the american populace that i've been introduced to is not that great. Perhaps you've had a different experience that leads you to believe otherwise. | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
On June 20 2008 12:30 rpf wrote: My country is full of intolerant, willfully ignorant sheep. Well said. | ||
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
On June 21 2008 00:41 Fr33t wrote: I hate people in our country that say fuck bush and when you ask them why they respond, "i fcking hate taht cunt cuz he raised gas prices and he sucks COck!" No one knows exactly why they hate bush, just that they are told by everyone else that they have to. Open your fucking eyes americans! The liberal fad here is driving me crazy... I'd much rather they hate him and not know why than like him and not know why. | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
On June 21 2008 00:47 pubbanana wrote: I'd much rather they hate him and not know why than like him and not know why. And why is that? When you walk up to a new person do you instantly hate them? I'm not saying people have to love him, but at least have a reason for either. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On June 21 2008 00:41 Fr33t wrote: I hate people in our country that say fuck bush and when you ask them why they respond, "i fcking hate taht cunt cuz he raised gas prices and he sucks COck!" No one knows exactly why they hate bush, just that they are told by everyone else that they have to. Open your fucking eyes americans! The liberal fad here is driving me crazy... Bush was a bad president because: - he lied about WMD and Iraq and spent billions of dollars for a stupid war. - he ruined the reputation of United States. I dont talk about home policy because i dont really know :o. | ||
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
I HATE travelling 50KM from my home to university... and because of the gas prices the bus is charging more than ever OHHH and this fucking music called "reggeton" or something like that, the worst music EVER, and what do we do? we put it in every TV show, radio etc. | ||
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Leath
Canada1724 Posts
Blames most of their problems in US. Has TV channel owned by Americans that controls the country (Globo). Doesnt do any justice to bio piracy. Every year the young population develops new taste on fashion and music that is dirtier than the year before. You can appreciate lyrics involving sex with extremely explicit phrases, moanings, and a choice of wording that is so low class that would ashame even the likes of Howard Stern. Plus it is readily available in any radio station and very popular among teenagers. TV shows likes "Zorra Total" are an insult to anyone who has half a brain. On another silly attempt to imitate the USA, Brazil developed some anti-racial laws to benefit the black community, which actually are promoting racism (Brazil and India are supposedly the least racist countries) | ||
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
Oh, I don't know, he lied to get support for a completely unfounded (and unconstitutional) war with Iraq, was warned repeatedly about Bin Laden's plans to attack the US and did nothing, ignored the United Nations, the Patriot Act, the illegal wire-tapping, the War on Terror and the rest of his stupid fucking rhetoric, the torture of inmates at Guantanamo, drug his feet on global warming because he was backed by oil companies, promoting Alberto Gonzales to Attorney General, nominating Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, nominating James Holsinger for Surgeon General, Hurricane Katrina, lied about WMDs, "Faith Based Initiative" ... just taking some wild fucking guesses. | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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kemoryan
Spain1506 Posts
The average spanish is an ignorant sheep whose reality consists only in what the Tube tells it has to be. By tube I mean all the social propaganda represented by the media and funded by the few rich capitalists. I guess that's how whole Occident is. Too much eurocup, and too few Chomsky. | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
On June 21 2008 01:29 randomKo_Orean wrote: Liberal fad? What about lib-tards? You actually like Bush? What the hell is wrong with you? You are the fucking blind one here. By the way, clean up your "fcking garmmer cuz tahts annOying!" Why do you keep finding ways to flame people from the US? He's not saying he likes Bush (in fact he very much so implies that he hates Bush himself) and the words within the quotes are intended to show the mentality of people he meets and are not representative of his own views or grammar. Instead of blinding flaming Americans take a moment or two to carefully read and think about what you're doing. | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
On June 21 2008 01:50 kemoryan wrote: I don't really consider Spain as 'my' country, actually I've never believed in frontiers bien dicho! I definitely agree. I don't believe in them either. 'Internet' is a state I identify with more than my country. I feel I have much more incommon with intelligent people and gamers and musicians around the world, than anyone who simply has the same skin colour or features or accent as me. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
The whole first world denied using our same electronic voting machines because it is so obvious and blatantly fraudulent. But 99,9999% of the brazilian people approve it and are proud that we are so "modern" because we vote on machines instead of paper! Beat that! | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
randomKo_Orean, you really need to calm down for a second, lol. Just some points that I really disagree with: "2) he vetoed children's universal healthcare, saying it's good for the country, yet spend billions of dollars on the war" Ahhh, I love the way people can manipulate information to support their points. That paints a real nice mental picture of Bush pulling out a marker and writing, "It's good for the country," over the bill and veto stamping it. Unfortunately, that's not the truth. Bush vetoed the bill because he said it was cost excessive and could easily lead to socialism, were the bill extended to higher income families. Socialism FTL! "...you are stupid, and your mom is stupid, and your brother is stupid..." Well that's not very nice And to add to your $250 Bil list, we could of liberated regular people like us suppressed by a totalitarian regime, expanded democracy, and kept the terrorists focused on their own land instead of attacking everyone else's. Oh wa... Back on topic, I hate this country because it allows minorities and women to take positions over higher qualified white men simply because their are minorities/women. | ||
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
Affirmative action, because it makes it harder for me to get into school... | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On June 21 2008 03:06 Fr33t wrote: ... Social healthcare leads to socialism lolololololol :D On June 21 2008 03:06 Fr33t wrote: ... And to add to your $250 Bil list, we could of liberated regular people like us suppressed by a totalitarian regime, expanded democracy, and kept the terrorists focused on their own land instead of attacking everyone else's. Oh wa... Yea for sure Bush started the Iraq war to end a totalitarian regime ahhaha. i still wonder why he didnt attack North Korea so oo. Maybe because there is no oil in Korea ? :> Oh and please the Al-Quaida terrorists are mostly form Saoudi Arabia and not from Afghanistan or Iraq. | ||
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
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EGoldman
United States110 Posts
On June 20 2008 23:34 Jibba wrote: Hi, I am going to criticize your use of uncited statistics. Oh hey, want to see some of my own uncited statistics? Weeeeeeeeeeeeee! Anyone who took the time to get informed on the history and policies that the candidate espoused would have had an equally tough time voting for Kerry. Honestly, if all you want to do is push around blanket statements then I'm not even going to bother. You can't judge a person's intelligence based on a single vote. Political propaganda tells you you can, but really you can't. LoL, Jibba, if you have a decent argument then use it. If you'd like to hide behind inane positions like "If you haven't met and interviewed every single human in the USA and tested their intelligence in a comprehensive way (as of yet, not achieved by the vast scientific community) then you're not qualified to speak on the intelligence of people in the USA," then there's nothign to talk about. By that incredible logic, you would also say no scientist can comment on e. coli unless they've examined every single cell of e.coli in existence under the most powerful of atomic microscopes. Your logic FAILS. It's pretty easy to get a good cross-section of the USA, and it's pretty easy to see that literacy, intelligence, and power of analysis have gone downhill. Even during the Colonial era, people were prided on how well-spoken and well-read they were. Nowadays? You'd be surprised how many people don't even know how many planets there are in the Solar System. In fact, most people think the closest planet to Earth is the Moon. Sorry, but you're the one with his head stuck in the sand, hiding from reality around him. Take your rose-colored glasses off and try doing some actual research. Instead, you just spout garbage here, think it "sounds" rational, and try to condemn what others say merely because it doesn't sit right with you. It sounds extreme and sensational, so you reject it right? Somehow, nothing could ever be THAT BAD. It's just pseudo-intellectual liberal whining again. Sure. I actually invite you to say more, because all it does is further justify my point. If you actually want to put down some real positions, I'd be glad to debate. But YOU are the one giving blanket assumptions saying "it can't be that bad. There are book clubs out there." | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
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kidd
United States2848 Posts
On June 21 2008 00:41 Fr33t wrote: I hate people in our country that say fuck bush and when you ask them why they respond, "i fcking hate taht cunt cuz he raised gas prices and he sucks COck!" No one knows exactly why they hate bush, just that they are told by everyone else that they have to. Open your fucking eyes americans! The liberal fad here is driving me crazy... QFT, oh my fucking god I hate it when people will just jump on the I HATE BUSH bandwagon just because it is the cool thing to do now-a-days. The best part is they have absolutely no idea why they hate bush other than "he just sux lolz". This isn't to say I don't disagree with alot of things Bush does, and I don't even like the guy much myself either but still, that specific behavior bugs the shit out of me. edit: the point I think Fr33t was trying to make, which I completely agree with, is the majority of Americans are fucking retarded and will act like flocks of sleep whenever there is a public outcry for it. | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
On June 21 2008 03:34 kidd wrote: QFT, oh my fucking god I hate it when people will just jump on the I HATE BUSH bandwagon just because it is the cool thing to do now-a-days. The best part is they have absolutely no idea why they hate bush other than "he just sux lolz". This isn't to say I don't disagree with alot of things Bush does, and I don't even like the guy much myself either but still, that specific behavior bugs the shit out of me. edit: the point I think Fr33t was trying to make, which I completely agree with, is the majority of Americans are fucking retarded and will act like flocks of sleep whenever there is a public outcry for it. Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! | ||
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Yuljan
2196 Posts
but you loved it when it was a terrorism fear fad that helped you invade countries. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
In all seriousness though, that law they're thinking of passing which allows the government to randomly check your computer/iPod/mp3 player for downloaded music and fine you accordingly makes me want to fucking slit the throats of a thousand cuddly little kittens. | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
On June 21 2008 04:27 Yuljan wrote: but you loved it when it was a terrorism fear fad that helped you invade countries. Terrorism fear fad? Are you fucking with me? 19 men hijack our jets, crash them into three separate buildings, kill 2,974 innocent people, and we don't have the right to be afraid? And hell, that was just one attack. What about all of the other terrorist attacks that take place all over the world? Is this "terrorism fear fad" anything like the nazi fear fad Jews had in WWII? | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
for real's if the government does that we're going to have a massive problem. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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EGoldman
United States110 Posts
On June 21 2008 04:52 Fr33t wrote: Terrorism fear fad? Are you fucking with me? 19 men hijack our jets, crash them into three separate buildings, kill 2,974 innocent people, and we don't have the right to be afraid? And hell, that was just one attack. What about all of the other terrorist attacks that take place all over the world? Is this "terrorism fear fad" anything like the nazi fear fad Jews had in WWII? ROFL, another non-student of history. Learn geopolitics first, then form an opinion. | ||
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suresh0t
United States295 Posts
I think the thing about books (which you can also get from reading the internet assuming it is something that isn't retarded) is that it keeps your brain functioning and processing. With shit the way it is and whatever the percentage of kids is that are entering high school that read at like a 1st grade level, shit needs to be fixed. Does reading a book make you intelligent by default? Obviously not. I'll get more information browsing the internet in a couple hours than if I spent a week in a library. However reading a book allows you to slow down and not focus on shock and awe or full action paced things like on TV and you can really read and understand the material. I actually have 3 Countries I get to bash seeing as I have lived in all 3! For now I'll stick with my home country USA I'm from the Midwest, so I have to say, I probably deal with the dumbest people on the planet. I mean honestly, anyone who's favorite genres of music are Rap and Country....that just shows you how ass backwards shit is. Things I remember from high school are that we aren't proud to be intellectuals. Our country bashes the smart "elitists" and don't want their opinions. We want to live with stupidity and never come out of it. I mean I slept through most of high school, yet I tested better than 98% of the school. Teachers aren't paid shit, and their expected to train these fucking monkey kids that think being dumb is fucking hard or cool. A message to kids out there that think the gangsta life is going to get you anywhere...grow the fuck up already and stop being a bane on our society. I doubt any of those kids read these forums. Listen I understand the dream of making money and doing little work, I am a poker player after all. However there is a difference between making money the way I do and still being somewhat useful to society and then being a fucking waste of life to the point that if I could travel back in time I'd fucking punch all their moms in the ovaries as soon as they got pregnant with them. Money is a good thing, but money without some sort of functioning brain means you'll probably just destroy your life and a lot of other peoples lives. Our politics are so dumb right now they give me a migraine to even think about. Sure we have TV shows like the Daily Show and the Colbert Report that mock the government, but really, it changes nothing. Those shows aren't coming up with ways to fix shit, they are just mocking the shit that is going on. That is seemingly enough to keep the people happy "Hey the government sucks, but at least Jon Stewart and Colbert are going to have some funny shit to talk about!". Then there are the people who don't think are government is in the wrong, mostly religious right wing nut bags that should all be put in potato bags and beaten until they either realize they are dumb, or until they die. People like Rod Parsley and John Hagee who are scared of everything and damn people to hell like they were fucking brought to heaven by God and anointed to tell people how to fucking live. Where the fuck do these fucking cunt bags get off. I have no problem with religion, unless they are a religion based on conversion. If you can't just be fucking happy and let other people believe what they want to believe without getting in their business, without getting in our schools, without getting into our governments, you shouldn't be allowed to fucking talk til you this little point out..."YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MORE THAN WHAT ANYONE ELSE KNOWS ABOUT WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE!". I personally believe these are the cunts responsible for why America is so fucking stupid. Here are my main 3 reasons - 1. The people that believe the shit they hear from people like them are fucking mindless sheep. They walk around spewing the shit they hear Sunday mornings and act like they have life figured out. Here is what they think life consists of...Either something good happened and God blessed them, or something bad happened and the Devil is working to bring them down. They are homophobic, technophobic?, brainwashing cunts. 2. People who have done away with the shit preached on Sunday mornings and have reverted to being the anti church, but can't really come up with an idea on their own. So what do they do? They start being the people you see who don't put "limits" on how they live their lives. Drug abusers, alcoholics, people who think they can do whatever they want because they think God is BS and they don't answer to anyone but themselves. 3. The people that spew Sunday morning rhetoric, while simultaneously doing shit they tell other people not to do. The fucking hypocrites, which I think is probably the biggest portion. They pick and choose what rules to follow and they still like to judge everyone else. Obviously this doesn't cover everyone, but in the Midwest these people run rampant. Where are the "Hey religion has it's place, but it's not in every aspect of our lives, but we are still socially required to not act like complete fucking dumbasses and be somewhat useful to society" people? I'm not trying to bash Christian beliefs, but honestly the shit just needs to calm down. Religion clearly was not meant to be part of our government or our public schools, and I think they people that are bound and determined to see it play a role in those areas are fucking worthless and need to shut the fuck up. Also, the fact that everyone outside of the states assumes that there isn't anyone in the states that actually has a brain. I know this was mentioned before, but I'd like to reiterate that fact. Listen I know we do some dumb shit, but we are also the country that people come to for help. I'm not going to say we do a fucking good job, but fucking get your heads out of your asses. Sure we fucking nuked the shit out of Japan, sure we fucking start wars without just cause, but we also help other countries that can't defend themselves when a stronger country tries to take them over. Obviously we don't do it for every country, but you know, that is impossible. The fact is, and proven by this thread, every country has their fucking problems...except I guess Norway. Our problems just affect more of the world than most, thus we get more shit then most. It's just like the popular kid in high school. Say everyone knows you and likes you, but then you fuck up, that many more people know about it and that many more people start to dislike you, as opposed to the country that nobody talks to. Every country has those citizens that think their country can do no wrong and that they are the greatest nation on the planet for some reason or another...well ok maybe not every country. Unfortunately for the US, our country ass kissers are a bit dumber than most, and yet they are more vocal than most as well. The US may be the "Greatest" nation on the planet in some aspects, but we are far from being a great country. | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
Even if saying how you hate your leader is part of bashing your country, I don't think arguments were intended in the thread, just to say what you dislike, not to tell people they're wrong, which is silly in and of itself because they're just telling you what they see, so how can you tell them they're wrong, that they're seeing something that doesn't exist? | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
On June 21 2008 05:42 suresh0t wrote: Just a quick statement on the whole book things: I think the thing about books (which you can also get from reading the internet assuming it is something that isn't retarded) is that it keeps your brain functioning and processing. With shit the way it is and whatever the percentage of kids is that are entering high school that read at like a 1st grade level, shit needs to be fixed. Does reading a book make you intelligent by default? Obviously not. I'll get more information browsing the internet in a couple hours than if I spent a week in a library. However reading a book allows you to slow down and not focus on shock and awe or full action paced things like on TV and you can really read and understand the material. I actually have 3 Countries I get to bash seeing as I have lived in all 3! For now I'll stick with my home country USA I'm from the Midwest, so I have to say, I probably deal with the dumbest people on the planet. I mean honestly, anyone who's favorite genres of music are Rap and Country....that just shows you how ass backwards shit is. Things I remember from high school are that we aren't proud to be intellectuals. Our country bashes the smart "elitists" and don't want their opinions. We want to live with stupidity and never come out of it. I mean I slept through most of high school, yet I tested better than 98% of the school. Teachers aren't paid shit, and their expected to train these fucking monkey kids that think being dumb is fucking hard or cool. A message to kids out there that think the gangsta life is going to get you anywhere...grow the fuck up already and stop being a bane on our society. I doubt any of those kids read these forums. Listen I understand the dream of making money and doing little work, I am a poker player after all. However there is a difference between making money the way I do and still being somewhat useful to society and then being a fucking waste of life to the point that if I could travel back in time I'd fucking punch all their moms in the ovaries as soon as they got pregnant with them. Money is a good thing, but money without some sort of functioning brain means you'll probably just destroy your life and a lot of other peoples lives. Our politics are so dumb right now they give me a migraine to even think about. Sure we have TV shows like the Daily Show and the Colbert Report that mock the government, but really, it changes nothing. Those shows aren't coming up with ways to fix shit, they are just mocking the shit that is going on. That is seemingly enough to keep the people happy "Hey the government sucks, but at least Jon Stewart and Colbert are going to have some funny shit to talk about!". Then there are the people who don't think are government is in the wrong, mostly religious right wing nut bags that should all be put in potato bags and beaten until they either realize they are dumb, or until they die. People like Rod Parsley and John Hagee who are scared of everything and damn people to hell like they were fucking brought to heaven by God and anointed to tell people how to fucking live. Where the fuck do these fucking cunt bags get off. I have no problem with religion, unless they are a religion based on conversion. If you can't just be fucking happy and let other people believe what they want to believe without getting in their business, without getting in our schools, without getting into our governments, you shouldn't be allowed to fucking talk til you this little point out..."YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MORE THAN WHAT ANYONE ELSE KNOWS ABOUT WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE!". I personally believe these are the cunts responsible for why America is so fucking stupid. Here are my main 3 reasons - 1. The people that believe the shit they hear from people like them are fucking mindless sheep. They walk around spewing the shit they hear Sunday mornings and act like they have life figured out. Here is what they think life consists of...Either something good happened and God blessed them, or something bad happened and the Devil is working to bring them down. They are homophobic, technophobic?, brainwashing cunts. 2. People who have done away with the shit preached on Sunday mornings and have reverted to being the anti church, but can't really come up with an idea on their own. So what do they do? They start being the people you see who don't put "limits" on how they live their lives. Drug abusers, alcoholics, people who think they can do whatever they want because they think God is BS and they don't answer to anyone but themselves. 3. The people that spew Sunday morning rhetoric, while simultaneously doing shit they tell other people not to do. The fucking hypocrites, which I think is probably the biggest portion. They pick and choose what rules to follow and they still like to judge everyone else. Obviously this doesn't cover everyone, but in the Midwest these people run rampant. Where are the "Hey religion has it's place, but it's not in every aspect of our lives, but we are still socially required to not act like complete fucking dumbasses and be somewhat useful to society" people? Also, the fact that everyone outside of the states assumes that there isn't anyone in the states that actually has a brain. I know this was mentioned before, but I'd like to reiterate that fact. Listen I know we do some dumb shit, but we are also the country that people come to for help. I'm not going to say we do a fucking good job, but fucking get your heads out of your asses. Sure we fucking nuked the shit out of Japan, sure we fucking start wars without just cause, but we also help other countries that can't defend themselves when a stronger country tries to take them over. Obviously we don't do it for every country, but you know, that is impossible. The fact is, and proven by this thread, every country has their fucking problems...except I guess Norway. Our problems just affect more of the world than most, thus we get more shit then most. It's just like the popular kid in high school. Say everyone knows you and likes you, but then you fuck up, that many more people know about it and that many more people start to dislike you, as opposed to the country that nobody talks to. Every country has those citizens that think their country can do no wrong and that they are the greatest nation on the planet for some reason or another...well ok maybe not every country. Unfortunately for the US, our country ass kissers are a bit dumber than most, and yet they are more vocal than most as well. The US may be the "Greatest" nation on the planet in some aspects, but we are far from being a great country. Yeah I agree. I'm ashamed to call Ohio a Midwestern State, I wish we were Atlantic just to avoid association; I live in urban columbus, and I guess most of Ohio is full of farming hicks and rednecks. Americans are very classist. Suburban people look down at urban folk as being poor slobs who don't deserve an education. They believe apparently in that theory of if you're poor it's because you didn't work hard enough, and if you're wealthy it's because you earned it. Of course, they just happened to be born in their position, and were given for free a decent education, good quality education buildings, oppourtunities and connections, etc. And because they avoid mingling with people different from them, they end up with strange very conservative beliefs which really don't even help them | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
I love edward norton, lol | ||
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
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Mischy
United States179 Posts
On June 21 2008 03:24 HamerD wrote: I'm with E goldman. You don't have to examine every single subject you want to chat about in a forum with the scientific method. Being an observant person and having a good enough memory is enough for things like that. This isn't the house of blood commons. I agree with HamerD agreeing with Egoldman | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 21 2008 00:39 Mischy wrote: Well I lived in 20 states. You're right, I didn't spend my time with well-renowned scientists or any great philosophers I spent time with average americans; doctors, lawyers, professors along with people who worked at a 7-11 or Mickey D's or just basic outlet stores and offices etc. My conclusion is obviously based on my experience with the amount of people that i've come across...the overall intelligence in the american populace that i've been introduced to is not that great. Perhaps you've had a different experience that leads you to believe otherwise. My experience is that there are a lot of stupid and lazy people, but there are also a lot of bright and clever people who get written off as stupid before you get to know them, even if it's just for a short conversation. I just got back from LA which seems to hugely shift the balance in favor of stupid people, but again I make that comment without reasonable evidence. My issue with this is people criticizing others for being ignorant, when they themselves are too ignorant to reach that conclusion correctly and rationally. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 21 2008 03:17 EGoldman wrote: Since when does knowing the number of planets in the solar system constitute intelligence? You're trying to draw people's intelligence from a presidential vote and the way they speak. I'm sure you love living with a massive superiority complex, along with most other internet goers who make similar statements, but it's honestly just bullshit.LoL, Jibba, if you have a decent argument then use it. If you'd like to hide behind inane positions like "If you haven't met and interviewed every single human in the USA and tested their intelligence in a comprehensive way (as of yet, not achieved by the vast scientific community) then you're not qualified to speak on the intelligence of people in the USA," then there's nothign to talk about. By that incredible logic, you would also say no scientist can comment on e. coli unless they've examined every single cell of e.coli in existence under the most powerful of atomic microscopes. Your logic FAILS. It's pretty easy to get a good cross-section of the USA, and it's pretty easy to see that literacy, intelligence, and power of analysis have gone downhill. Even during the Colonial era, people were prided on how well-spoken and well-read they were. Nowadays? You'd be surprised how many people don't even know how many planets there are in the Solar System. In fact, most people think the closest planet to Earth is the Moon. Sorry, but you're the one with his head stuck in the sand, hiding from reality around him. Take your rose-colored glasses off and try doing some actual research. Instead, you just spout garbage here, think it "sounds" rational, and try to condemn what others say merely because it doesn't sit right with you. It sounds extreme and sensational, so you reject it right? Somehow, nothing could ever be THAT BAD. It's just pseudo-intellectual liberal whining again. Sure. I actually invite you to say more, because all it does is further justify my point. If you actually want to put down some real positions, I'd be glad to debate. But YOU are the one giving blanket assumptions saying "it can't be that bad. There are book clubs out there." I didn't say there were more smart or dumb people. I'm saying you've completely abandoned logic to reach your conclusion and are only further spurring the problems with society. This is basic epistemology here. Even if you are right, you're getting there the wrong way, which makes you fall into the idiot camp you're so vehemently against. You're making an extremely loose inductive argument, and have offered no reason to believe it is anything but that. Furthermore, a lot of people who make that conclusion aren't even using inductive reasoning. They're simply repeating what they've heard elsewhere. I already admitted I made a mistake with the reading statement, because I'm not being an asinine little bitch like the other person in this conversation (you.) | ||
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Mischy
United States179 Posts
On June 21 2008 11:09 Jibba wrote: My experience is that there are a lot of stupid and lazy people, but there are also a lot of bright and clever people who get written off as stupid before you get to know them, even if it's just for a short conversation. I just got back from LA which seems to hugely shift the balance in favor of stupid people, but again I make that comment without reasonable evidence. My issue with this is people criticizing others for being ignorant, when they themselves are too ignorant to reach that conclusion correctly and rationally. If they're bright and clever why would they ever be written off as stupid in the first place lol I dont just randomly point at people on the streets, screaming at the top of my lungs about how their socks dont match so, therefore, must be an idiot >< Of course there are bright and clever people in america. We have some of the best universities in the WORLD. I haven't met a single bright person who has been written off as stupid...a geek, yes...a nerd,yes.....but being written off as stupid because they're smart, never. If I see a man fiddling with an outlet in my house with a metal fork, I dont sit there thinking: 'hes sticking a fork in an electrical socket...but he could be a smart person...lets give him a chance.' Though I understand what you're saying...and obviously pre-judgment isn't the best way to go right. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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Mischy
United States179 Posts
On June 21 2008 11:35 Jibba wrote: There are a lot of people without college education that are quite intelligent. And people with college education who are morons. We haven't even outlined what being 'bright' means yet, so it's difficult for this discussion to go anywhere (and it's already way off-topic.) I'm pretty sure it's not measured by knowing there are 8 planets in the Solar System, however. You're very correct sir! :O Too bad this isn't the weird serial killer foot thread...I could totally throw in a horrible foot pun and something about the mission to mars >< but back on topic: America has too many walmarts. | ||
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joewest
United States167 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:04 imBLIND wrote: FUCKING BITCH CALIFORNIA ALLOWED GAY MARRIAGE People like this make me want to leave the USA. I mean why shouldn't we just deny people equal treatment come on their so abnormal they don't deserve treatment like the rest of us they're not natural blah blah blah... | ||
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Play
Australia608 Posts
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aRod
United States758 Posts
On June 21 2008 11:47 joewest wrote: People like this make me want to leave the USA. I mean why shouldn't we just deny people equal treatment come on their so abnormal they don't deserve treatment like the rest of us they're not natural blah blah blah... People like you annoy me. You can't be sure he wasn't making fun of Bush by throwing in gay marriage after an anti-Bush rant. (Bush has always been a proponent of gay marriage right?). | ||
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aRod
United States758 Posts
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
On June 21 2008 12:47 aRod wrote: America, All you need to do is look at a graph of obesity in the United States and a graph of average gasoline consumption over time and compare these figures to other cultures. This is enough to realize our culture is totally fucking retarded. I would probably drive less if I didn't live fucking 20 miles from anything. And moving 20 miles to something means I'm still going to have to drive 20 fucking miles to something else. Either way I'm forced to drive. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On June 21 2008 12:41 aRod wrote: People like you annoy me. You can't be sure he wasn't making fun of Bush by throwing in gay marriage after an anti-Bush rant. (Bush has always been a proponent of gay marriage right?). No, Bush hasn't. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
House prices in Auckland have risen so high that unless you already have a house you are going to be stuck with some crushing mortgage if you ever want to own one. The culture of machismo and violence. Homie/gangsta wannabes who try to start fights with people for no reason. (I'm in Korea now and its so safe to walk round at night, if you're male at least). Single mothers get more benefits the more children they have so the people with no work ethic, who are the least fit to be having children, end up having more of them at younger ages. Auckland being a large city of over one million people but not having a decent train system. There are only two different directions you can go and it moves at a snails pace. Obesity levels getting higher and higher. We're seventh in the world for % of obese people now: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity (Aussies are 6th though )It's good to see a thread where it's not just China and the USA getting bashed. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
On June 19 2008 16:04 imBLIND wrote: thank god bush is leaving soon fucking bitch, euros are worth more than dollars. fucking bitch, its 4 bucks a gallon for gas FUCKING BITCH CALIFORNIA ALLOWED GAY MARRIAGE California #1 | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
Young people bitch all the time about the government, but politicians are not accountable to people who don't vote. It's a pretty fucking simple concept. No, half the country did not vote for Bush. 22% of the country voted for Bush, but since older and more conservative people are more likely to vote, they receive a disproportionate amount of power. There's also a lot of young people who lie about having voted to seem cool or whatever, but they were really busy playing Halo or Starcraft that day. It's bullshit. | ||
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Hurricane
United States3939 Posts
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anony
Israel17 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On June 22 2008 00:28 Hurricane wrote: There are more trees than people. A lot more. Trees own. | ||
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
in my country the overall forest is growing while population is slightly decreasing, yeah. | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
California is one of the worst states to live in, along with MA, NJ, and NY. They're all fucking nanny states. NH FTW. | ||
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
On June 21 2008 04:52 Fr33t wrote: Terrorism fear fad? Are you fucking with me? 19 men hijack our jets, crash them into three separate buildings, kill 2,974 innocent people, and we don't have the right to be afraid? And hell, that was just one attack. What about all of the other terrorist attacks that take place all over the world? Is this "terrorism fear fad" anything like the nazi fear fad Jews had in WWII? So given your logic, you must live in crippling fear of dying in an auto accident, dying in an airplane crash, being mugged, murdered, conned, kidnapped, or sold a used car. Because let's be honest - you are obviously running a much higher risk of being fucked over by your fellow Americans than those scary people who don't believe in Jesus and live in the desert. People like you are why Bush was elected to a second disastrous term. Fuck you. | ||
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caution.slip
United States775 Posts
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
On June 22 2008 03:14 Louder wrote: So given your logic, you must live in crippling fear of dying in an auto accident, dying in an airplane crash, being mugged, murdered, conned, kidnapped, or sold a used car. Because let's be honest - you are obviously running a much higher risk of being fucked over by your fellow Americans than those scary people who don't believe in Jesus and live in the desert. People like you are why Bush was elected to a second disastrous term. Fuck you. Agreed. Although you make it sound like not being a Christian or living in the desert automatically makes you a bad person. :p Terrorism is bad, what happened is bad, but the real bad thing is the overreaction of the government: more surveillance, less freedom, less rights. Because once the terrorist attacks are no threat anymore, these laws will not suddenly disappear or weakened... they'll just say "well OK it's not for terrorist protection anymore but it's also useful against other big/organized crime!". Once taken, these "bits of freedom" will not come back easily. And there will always be more taken away. Any state can become a surveillance state or police state if you allow the government to take away too many of your freedoms. The insane USA Patriot Act is already considered anti-constitutional, but it still exists... and other countries are in danger of copying the USA there. What happens if *you* are suddenly suspected to be a terrorist? If you're innocent, you sure would love to still have some rights to defend yourself. Well, maybe not anymore... you might even be legally tortured. And I think I don't have to tell you how barbaric and antidemocratic government-supported torture is. But it exists... in the land of the free. All because of fear of terrorism, of course. How nice. | ||
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Solarian
United States100 Posts
On June 22 2008 03:21 caution.slip wrote: porn is illegal in china Oh god it's true! http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051231-5873.html | ||
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Hong Kong1313 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On June 21 2008 23:14 Jibba wrote: Here's a pretty fucking important one I think everyone forgot about. Voter apathy is awful in the US. I'm not sure if it's just indifference, laziness or that people are too busy, but none of those are good reasons not to vote. In a good state, like Minnesota, voter turnout might be around 60%. It's often half that in other states. Young people bitch all the time about the government, but politicians are not accountable to people who don't vote. It's a pretty fucking simple concept. No, half the country did not vote for Bush. 22% of the country voted for Bush, but since older and more conservative people are more likely to vote, they receive a disproportionate amount of power. There's also a lot of young people who lie about having voted to seem cool or whatever, but they were really busy playing Halo or Starcraft that day. It's bullshit. Apparently in Australia voting is compulsory, if you don't vote you have to pay a fine. It may sound draconian to some, the idea of forcing people to vote but they do get voting rates of about 96%. IMO if less than 50% of people are voting then democracy isn't working properly so I think this is definitely worth the infringement of peoples' liberties. http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/compulsoryvote.htm | ||
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United States2705 Posts
On June 22 2008 03:14 Louder wrote: So given your logic, you must live in crippling fear of dying in an auto accident, dying in an airplane crash, being mugged, murdered, conned, kidnapped, or sold a used car. Because let's be honest - you are obviously running a much higher risk of being fucked over by your fellow Americans than those scary people who don't believe in Jesus and live in the desert. People like you are why Bush was elected to a second disastrous term. Fuck you. Zing. Fear mongering has led to a lot of bad things--both in the US and other countries. Giving into said fair is even worse. Fear is designed to prevent you from entering a potentially dangerous situation or any other situation that challenges the safety of a given organism; using fear to justify blatant and officious misuse of power and authority. I really hate people like that. "Waahh wahhh we got attacked fuck you die!" Everyone who died fighting to make this country what it used to be would be fucking appalled by such behavior. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
Did you know that the number of people who die by food poisoning in the US (about 5-9000 per year) is more people than have been killed in terrorist attacks in the United States for... over 200 years? That means, you should just stop eating food altogether and take your luck with terrorists, you have a higher chance of survival that way. loooooool! | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7917 Posts
Agree. US sucks and imBLIND is an homophobic idiot. By the way, being homophobic is just the same as being racist. Hating other people for their difference. Which sucks. And you should know that low dollar is good for your exports. Which is kind of good for you. | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On June 22 2008 06:09 Biff The Understudy wrote: Agree. US sucks and imBLIND is an homophobic idiot. By the way, being homophobic is just the same as being racist. Hating other people for their difference. Which sucks. And you should know that low dollar is good for your exports. Which is kind of good for you. you are destroying this thread. this is the bash YOUR country not bash us thread. | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
On June 22 2008 03:42 0xDEADBEEF wrote: Agreed. Although you make it sound like not being a Christian or living in the desert automatically makes you a bad person. :p Terrorism is bad, what happened is bad, but the real bad thing is the overreaction of the government: more surveillance, less freedom, less rights. Because once the terrorist attacks are no threat anymore, these laws will not suddenly disappear or weakened... they'll just say "well OK it's not for terrorist protection anymore but it's also useful against other big/organized crime!". Once taken, these "bits of freedom" will not come back easily. And there will always be more taken away. Any state can become a surveillance state or police state if you allow the government to take away too many of your freedoms. The insane USA Patriot Act is already considered anti-constitutional, but it still exists... and other countries are in danger of copying the USA there. What happens if *you* are suddenly suspected to be a terrorist? If you're innocent, you sure would love to still have some rights to defend yourself. Well, maybe not anymore... you might even be legally tortured. And I think I don't have to tell you how barbaric and antidemocratic government-supported torture is. But it exists... in the land of the free. All because of fear of terrorism, of course. How nice. Disagree. I think you're a great poster deadbeef, but you and the like-minded people are simply naive. You are able to make such ridiculous statements without consequence, but they are certainly nowhere near true. This website always annoys me on the topic of terrorism/US attitude. You guys have no fucking idea what you are talking about. U.S. Thwarts 19 Terrorist Attacks Against America Since 9/11 + Show Spoiler + Criticisms of post-9/11 efforts to protect the United States from attack range from claims that America is more vulnerable than ever to the contention that the transnational terrorist danger is vastly over-hyped.[1] A review of publicly available information on at least 19 terrorist conspiracies thwarted by U.S. law enforcement suggests that the truth lies somewhere in between these two arguments. U.S. agencies are actively combating individuals and groups that are intent on killing Americans and plotting mayhem to foster violent extremist political and religious agendas. A review of the data suggests several important conclusions: Combating terrorism is essential for keeping America safe, free, and prosperous. Counterterrorism operations have uncovered threats that in some cases, although less sophisticated than the 9/11 attacks and at most loosely affiliated with "al-Qaeda" central, could have resulted in significant loss of life and property if they had been conducted successfully. The best means to prevent terrorist attacks is effective intelligence collection, information sharing, and coordinated, determined counterterrorism operations that can stop attacks before they are mounted. Effective operations often require federal, state, local, and international cooperation. Few of the planned attacks were potentially as devastating in scope as the September 11, 2001, attacks on Washington and New York. In addition, the successful interdiction of these efforts offers no guarantee that future attacks will also be prevented. Nevertheless, the government's success in protecting the homeland argues that vigilant and proactive counterterrorism operations are an essential part of keeping America safe in the 21st century. Future efforts to mitigate the threat of transnational terrorism should follow the example set by post-9/11 operations by respecting both the rule of law and liberties guaranteed by the Constitution and the necessity of conducting concerted efforts to seek out and frustrate terrorist conspiracies before they come to fruition. Thwarted Attacks Richard Reid, December 2001 A British citizen and self-professed follower of Osama bin Laden, Reid allegedly hid explosives inside his shoes aboard a flight from Paris to Miami and attempted to use a match to light the fuse in his shoe. The explosives were strong enough to cause damage to the plane if detonated. Caught in the act, Reid was apprehended on board the plane by the flight attendants with the assistance of passengers. FBI officials then took Reid into custody after the plane made an emergency landing at Boston's Logan Airport.[2] Reid was found guilty of charges of terrorism in 2003, and a U.S. federal court sentenced him to life imprisonment.[3] Jose Padilla, May 2002 U.S. officials arrested Padilla in May 2002 at O'Hare Airport in Chicago as he returned to the United States from Pakistan, initially charging him with being an enemy combatant and planning to use a "dirty bomb" (an explosive laced with radioactive material) in an attack against America.[4] Prior to his conviction, Padilla brought a case against the federal government stating that he had been denied the right of habeas corpus (the right of an individual to petition against his or her imprisonment). The U.S. Supreme Court, in a 5–4 decision, found that the case had been filed improperly.[5] In 2005, the government officially indicted Padilla for conspiring with Islamic terrorist groups.[6] In August 2007, Padilla was found guilty by a civilian jury after a three-month trial and a day and a half of deliberations. Lackawanna Six, September 2002 When the FBI arrested Sahim Alwan, Yahya Goba, Yasein Taher, Faysal Galab, Shafal Mosed, and Mukhtar al-Bakri, the press dubbed them the "Lackawanna Six" (also the "Buffalo Six" or "Buffalo Cell"). Five of the six had been born and raised in Lackawanna, New York.[7] The six American citizens of Yemeni descent were arrested for conspiring with terrorist groups. They had stated that they were going to Pakistan to attend a religious training camp but instead attended an al-Qaeda "jihadist" camp. All six pled guilty in 2003 to providing support to al-Qaeda. Faysal Galab received a seven-year sentence. Sahim Alwan got seven and a half years, while Yesein Taher and Shafal Mosed both received eight-year prison sentences. Mukhtar al-Bakri, the first to plead guilty, received a 10-year sentence, as did Yahya Goba.[8] Iyman Faris, May 2003 A naturalized U.S. citizen originally from Kashmir and living in Columbus, Ohio, Iyman Faris was arrested for conspiring to commit a terrorist act. He was suspected of planning to use blowtorches to collapse the Brooklyn Bridge.[9] The New York City Police Department had learned about the plot and increased police surveillance around the bridge. Faced with this additional security, Faris and his superiors decided to cancel the attack.[10] Faris pled guilty to conspiracy and providing material support to al-Qaeda. During his sentencing trial, he stated that he was innocent and had admitted a role in the plot to FBI agents only in order to trick the agents and secure a book deal. Faris was sentenced in Federal District Court to 20 years, the maximum allowed under his plea agreement.[11] Virginia "Jihad" Network, June 2003 In Alexandria, Virginia, 11 men were arrested for weapons counts and for violating the Neutrality Act, which prohibits U.S. citizens and residents from attacking countries with which the United States is at peace. Of these 11 men, four pled guilty. Upon further investigation, the other seven members of the group were indicted on additional charges of conspiring to support terrorist organizations. They were found to have connections with al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and Lashkar-i-Taiba, a terrorist organization that targets the Indian government.[12] The authorities stated that the Virginia men had used paintball games as a form of training and preparation for battle.[13] The group had also acquired surveillance and night vision equipment and wireless video cameras.[14] The spiritual leader of the group, Ali al-Timimi, was found guilty of soliciting individuals to assault the United States and was sentenced to life in prison. Ali Asad Chandia received 15 years for supporting Lashkar-i-Taiba but maintains his innocence.[15] Randoll Todd Royer, Ibrahim al-Hamdi, Yong Ki Kwon, Khwaja Mahmoud Hasan, Muhammed Aatique, and Donald T. Surratt all pled guilty and were sentenced to prison terms.[16] Masoud Khan, Seifullah Chapman, and Hammad Adur-Raheem were found guilty at trial.[17] Dhiren Barot, August 2004 A terrorist cell under the leadership of Dhiren Barot was arrested for plotting to attack the New York Stock Exchange and other financial institutions in New York, Washington, and Newark, New Jersey, and later accused of planning attacks in England. The plots included a "memorable black day of terror" with the employment of a "dirty bomb."[18] A July 2004 police raid on Barot's house in Pakistan discovered a number of incriminating documents in files on a laptop computer that included instructions for building car bombs.[19] Dhiren Barot pled guilty and was convicted in the United Kingdom for conspiracy to commit mass murder and sentenced to 40 years.[20] James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj, August 2004 James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj were arrested for plotting to bomb a subway station near Madison Square Garden in New York City before the Republican National Convention.[21] The New York City Police Departments Intelligence Division helped to conduct an investigation leading to the arrests. An undercover agent infiltrated the group, provided information to authorities, and later testified against Elshafay and Siraj.[22] Elshafay, a U.S. citizen, pled guilty and received a lighter sentence for testifying against his co-conspirator. He received five years. Shawhawar Matin Siraj was sentenced to 30 years in prison.[23] Yassin Aref and Mohammed Hossain, August 2004 Two leaders of an Albany, New York, mosque were charged with plotting to purchase a shoulder-fired grenade launcher to assassinate a Pakistani diplomat.[24] An investigation by the FBI, the Treasury Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, and the local police contributed to the arrest. With the help of an informant, the FBI was able to set up a sting that lured Mohammed Hossain into a fake terrorist conspiracy.[25] Hossain brought Yassin Araf, a Kurdish refugee, as a witness. The informant offered details of a fake terrorist plot, claiming that he needed the missiles to murder a Pakistani diplomat in New York City. Both agreed to help.[26] Both Aref and Hossain were found guilty of money laundering and conspiracy to conceal material support for terrorism. Umer Hayat and Hamid Hayat, June 2005 In Lodi, California, Umer Hayat and Hamid Hayat, a Pakistani immigrant and his American son, were arrested after allegedly lying to the FBI about the son's attendance at an Islamic terrorist training camp in Pakistan. The son, Hamid Hayat, was found guilty of supporting terrorism and was sentenced to 24 years.[27] Umer Hayat's trial ended in a mistrial. He later pled guilty to lying to a Customs agent in his attempt to carry $28,000 into Pakistan. Levar Haley Washington, Gregory Vernon Patterson, Hammad Riaz Samana, and Kevin James, August 2005 Arrested in Los Angeles, California, the members of the group were charged with conspiring to attack Los Angeles National Guard facilities, synagogues, and other targets in the Orange County area.[28] Kevin James allegedly founded a radical Islamic prison group and converted Levar Washington and others to the group, which was known as JIS, short for Jamiyyat Ul-Islam Is-Saheeh.[29] The JIS allegedly planned to finance their operations by robbing gas stations. After Washington and Patterson were arrested for robberies, police and federal agents began a terrorist investigation when a search of Washington's apartment revealed a suspicious target list.[30] All of the defendants pled not guilty and currently await trial. Michael C. Reynolds, December 5, 2005 Michael C. Reynolds was arrested by the FBI and charged with being involved in a plot to blow up a Wyoming natural gas refinery; the Transcontinental Pipeline, a natural-gas pipeline stretching from the Gulf Coast to New York and New Jersey; and a New Jersey Standard Oil refinery.[31] He was arrested while trying to pick up the $40,000 owed to him for planning the attack.[32] His purported contact, Shannen Rossmiller, was a Montana judge who was working with the FBI.[33] The FBI later found explosives in a locker in his home town, Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.[34] Reynolds claimed that he was working as a private citizen to find terrorists.[35] Reynolds was convicted of providing material support to terrorists, soliciting a crime of violence, unlawful distribution of explosives, and unlawful possession of a hand grenade and sentenced to 30 years in prison.[36] Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi, Zand Wassim Mazloum, February 2006 In Toledo, Ohio, Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi, and Wassim Mazloum were arrested for "conspiring to kill or injure people in the Middle East" and providing material support to terrorist organizations. They allegedly intended to build bombs to be used in Iraq.[37] The investigation was begun through the help of an informant who was approached to help train the group.[38] All defendants have pled not guilty. Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, April 2006 Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee from Atlanta, Georgia, were accused of conspiracy, having discussed terrorist targets with alleged terrorist organizations.[39] They allegedly met with Islamic extremists and received training and instruction in how to gather videotape surveillance of potential targets in the Washington area. They videotaped places such as the U.S. Capitol and the World Bank headquarters as potential targets and sent the videos to a London extremist group.[40] They were indicted for providing material support to terrorist organizations and have pled not guilty. Narseal Batiste, Patrick Abraham, Stanley Grant Phanor, Naudimar Herrera, Burson Augustin, Lyglenson Lemorin, and Rotschild Augstine, June 2006 Seven men were arrested in Miami and Atlanta for allegedly being in the early stages of a plot to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago, as well as the FBI offices and other buildings. The arrests resulted from an investigation involving an FBI informant. It is alleged that Narsearl Batiste was the leader of the group and first suggested attacking the Sears Tower in December 2005.[41] All individuals have pled not guilty and are awaiting trial. Assem Hammoud, July 2006 Conducting on-line surveillance of chat rooms, the FBI discovered a plot to attack underground transit links with New Jersey.[42] Eight suspects, including Assem Hammoud, an al-Qaeda loyalist living in Lebanon, were arrested for plotting to bomb the New York City train tunnels.[43] Hammoud was a self-proclaimed operative for al-Qaeda and admitted to the plot.[44] He is currently in custody in Lebanon, and his case is pending. Two other suspects are in custody in other locations, and investigators continue to hunt down the other five suspects. Liquid Explosives Plot, August 2006 British law enforcement was able to stop a terrorist plot to load 10 commercial airliners headed to the United States with liquid explosives.[45] The areas said to be targeted were New York, Washington, D.C., and California.[46] Approximately 24 British persons were arrested in the London area. The style of the plot has raised speculation that al-Qaeda was behind it, but no concrete evidence has proven this. The United Kingdom has charged 15 of the 24 arrested individuals, and trials are expected to begin in 2008.[47] The charges vary from conspiring to commit murder to planning to commit terrorist acts.[48] Fort Dix Plot, May 2007 Six men were arrested in a plot against Fort Dix, a U.S. Army base in New Jersey. The plan included attacking and killing soldiers using assault rifles and grenades.[49] Five of the alleged conspirators had conducted training missions in the nearby Pocono Mountains. The sixth helped to obtain weapons. The arrests were made after a 16-month FBI operation that included infiltrating the group. The investigation began after a store clerk alerted authorities when he discovered a video file of the group firing weapons and calling for "jihad." As far as is known, the group had no direct connections to any world terrorist organization.[50] Five of the defendants have been charged with conspiracy to kill military personnel. The sixth is facing weapons charges. JFK Plot, June 2007 Four men plotted to blow up a jet fuel artery that runs through residential neighborhoods at the John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City. It is alleged that they believed this would create more destruction than September 11. Authorities stated that the attack would have caused major damage.[51] Russell Defreitas, the leader of the group was arrested in Brooklyn. One of the men was a former airport worker, and two other individuals had links to Islamic extremists in South America and the Caribbean.[52] Two others, Abdul Kadir and Kareem Ibrahim, are being held in Trinidad. Kadir was an imam in Guyana, former member of parliament, and mayor of the town of Linden, Guyana. Ibrahim is a Trinidadian citizen. The fourth suspect—Abdel Nur, a Guyanese citizen—remains at large.[53] Cases are pending. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, March 2007 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, captured in 2003, is alleged to have been involved in a number of terrorist plots and is among the most senior of Osama bin Laden’s operatives to have been captured. He is currently held at the U.S. military detention facility at Guantanamo Bay. Mohammed admitted in March 2007 to helping to plan, organize, and run the September 11 attacks and also claimed responsibility for the first bombing at the World Trade Center and the bombings of nightclubs in Bali in 2002 and a Kenyan hotel. He has stated that he decapitated American journalist Daniel Pearl and took responsibility for helping to plan the failed attack by Richard Reid, along with plots at Heathrow Airport, Canary Wharf, and Big Ben, as well as targets in Israel and the Panama Canal. He also helped to develop plots surrounding Los Angeles, Chicago, and the Empire State Building as well as U.S. nuclear power stations. He also had plotted to assassinate Pope John Paul II and former President Bill Clinton. The U.S. government intends to try him before a military commission authorized by Congress. Staying Vigilant The list of publicly known arrests demonstrates conclusively that the lack of another major terrorist attack is not a sign that organizations have relinquished their essential goals. A number of plots conducted by individuals have been prevented as a result of the increase in effective counterterrorism investigations by the United States in cooperation with friendly and allied governments. Continuing these operations, which include sound, effective, and lawful intelligence, surveillance, and investigations, is one of the best weapons in America's arsenal for the long war. To clarify, I disagree that there is no longer a threat (though such disagreement is superflous, since it's a fact rather than opinion). We must find a reasonable balance between protection and privacy. It's a complex problem, there are no easy solutions; it's a quintessential problem between governments and their constituents. Yet people on this website reduce it to: "lol fkuc bush!" THE PATRIOT ACT is also fucking retarded; it's an extreme. | ||
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United Kingdom1922 Posts
Ps I expect no specific president would make much of a difference. Unless they were completely bone-idle, they would accept advice from their heads of intelligence to pass various laws to help the fight against malicious terrorism. I don't think people should vote on mccain or obama based on who they think will make the counter-terrorist intelligence better. EDIT: Headbangaa, not jibba | ||
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So I hear Forvik is being ran by some fag. Good times. | ||
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astalkulo
United States444 Posts
To all the forgetfull people that voted for the same creep to be president and in fact he was president 15 years ago and left the country more poor than ever!!! | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
Fuck Americans that want safety for free. | ||
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United States1172 Posts
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Funnytoss
Taiwan1471 Posts
Immediately in your argument there's a problem with the hypothetical - it's not guaranteed that the inmates at Guantanamo (for example, since much of the abuse is situated there) are even guilty, but you in your mind have already decided that this is the case. Some have been found guilty, and many more have been found innocent. Thus you can justify everything in this simple world, but it's not useful in real life. Instead, it's simply irresponsible and morally negligent. A parallel is the death penalty - given that you know there are some innocent people on death row, is it responsible to say, "Well they must all be guilty otherwise they wouldn't be there so kill them all". No, you make sure all the evidence lines up and you're utterly confident that you aren't making a mistake before you do it. Same reason we need trials for people imprisoned in Gitmo. | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
On June 22 2008 09:03 Fr33t wrote: Actually, I'm a pretty care free guy. Sold a use car? That one made me laugh. I've only ever owned used cars, lol. I'm in an area where a terrorist attack would almost be a waste of time on their part. Thankfully though, I'm blessed with a brain that can understand that is not the case everywhere. You and other people need to take two seconds to actually read other people's posts before you go ranting off about God knows what. My logic is that a fear of terrorism should not be considered a mere fad that is making our government oppressive. Check out HeadBangaa's post just to see what has been done. I swear people bitch and moan when the government does nothing, but then when they actually do something and SAVE LIVES, people bitch and moan even louder. Granted the patriot act may have gone a little too far, but something needs to be in place because putting our hands over our ears and closing our eyes doesn't stop anything. And what right does some guy we catch in a terrorist camp, that's not even a citizen, have to not be tortured if they have information we need? I swear, why the fuck are we standing up for someone who's sole intent in life is to harm or kill us. Oh please, let him go back to planning, let him work up something that can 1up 9/11. Now I'm not saying we should just go to every arab person in the world and waterboard them, but if we catch someone we know is in the system, fuck them. Unlike you, I have no sympathy for someone who means nothing but to kill others. When you put yourself in that situation, you accept the consequences. Fuck Americans that want safety for free. About the first 2 paragraphs: I probably made it sound like I wanted the government to do nothing at all against terrorist threats. But that would be silly. There has to be done something about it. But, like HeadBangaa said, a balance must be found so that privacy/freedom isn't compromised too much. One should especially never give up basic constitutional rights for a small gain in security. In the past, many people have fought and died just to gain some of the freedoms we take for granted today, and you're ready to give up a lot of them for an unknown amount of additional security. Yes, mostly "unknown". For example, there was a study not long ago about the insane amount of camera surveillance in London (or somewhere else in the UK, don't remember), which showed that the additional cameras provided exactly or almost zero additional protection against crimes (based on crime statistics). So these things were installed everywhere in the hope of better protection, and people have lost a LOT of privacy as a result, but it's completely useless. And will the cameras now be disabled? Probably not at all. A big step closer to 1984. And similar things are happening in other countries too. Your government (and ours and others too, but not as much) has *clearly* overreacted. The changes your Patriot Act brings will hurt the citizens more (long-term) than help, and it's very hard to revert such things once they've been established. There's a famous saying: "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". But apparently we take too many things for granted nowadays. Many don't value their rights and freedom much, they only start to do that when they realize they need them but they're already gone. "Safety" sounds better, especially when the government spreads more and more fear of terrorism. | ||
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Germany1235 Posts
Like Funnytoss said, the problem are the innocents who are falsely accused. Then, death penalty and torture are simply unacceptable. And besides, these two things are also very medieval and should have no place in a modern society. Just throw a terrorist in prison, like you'd do with any other criminal. If he's innocent he may still have a chance to prove his innocence. He may be found innocent after some time and could still continue his life. But if he is executed he obviously can't, and if he's tortured, well... there were quite a few innocent people in Guantanamo Bay who have "admitted" crimes they didn't commit at all just to stop the torture. So that's also bullshit. | ||
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On June 20 2008 22:14 0xDEADBEEF wrote: I think that's correct. Learning new things is considered "uncool" or "nerdy" these days. Stupidity isn't a problem by itself, the problem is that stupidity is considered cool by teenagers etc. Intelligent people always do *something* to expand their horizon (for example, read various books). Dumb people never do anything new. That's not true, sometimes they try ordering a differrent pizza than they usually does... | ||
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alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
On June 22 2008 06:34 aqui wrote: you are destroying this thread. this is the bash YOUR country not bash us thread. heh cant imagine its TOO hard to find something in france to bitch about on topic: fuck bush | ||
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United States22883 Posts
On June 22 2008 06:48 HamerD wrote: Interesting argument really. Everyone wants freedom and everyone wants safety, the balance struck is really important Jibba. The important thing is that the US doesn't become like China, but also that it doesn't become some sort of faggy san-francisco-orientated 0 defence nub which gets bombed every month. Ps I expect no specific president would make much of a difference. Unless they were completely bone-idle, they would accept advice from their heads of intelligence to pass various laws to help the fight against malicious terrorism. I don't think people should vote on mccain or obama based on who they think will make the counter-terrorist intelligence better. EDIT: Headbangaa, not jibba Fuck you, I don't make interesting arguments. | ||
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That pisses me off beyond belief. What's even more irritating than them passing that is that people don't care. They say "oh, I have nothing to hide anyway, and it's helping to catch terrorists." It's generally stupid people who say things like that. This government is taking small steps to totalitarianism, all under the guise of "protection." I think it was Ben Franklin who said, "Any man willing to give up freedom for security, gets neither freedom nor security." (Not an exact quote.) Then Saturday morning (I think that's when it was) I see Bush's stupid face on my TV talking about how this will assist in the capture of terrorists, and is a vital part in the protection of the nation. It's such incredible bullshit. There aren't enough good people left running for office to ensure that this is going to change, either. It's only going to get worse, no matter who becomes our next president. I don't want to see Barrack get the spot at all, because he's simply going to move us in an incredibly socialistic direction, which I am entirely against; however, if McCain gets in, it's simply going to be more of the government intruding in my life like this. I don't think Obama will be much different, sadly. It makes this year's vote completely futile, to me. In my opinion, this is the biggest issue facing our country, and nobody is concerned about it. Yeah, gas prices suck right now, and the economy is headed on a downward spiral, but what good is money when you have no freedom? I'd rather live broke and free than rich and under the tyrannical control of a government. (I know that's not how the saying goes, but I won't technically be a slave.) It saddens me so much to see what's going on in this country, and across the world, and how no body minds what's happening at all. People are more concerned about whether two gay people get married, or whether a teenager gets an abortion than they are about the oppressive nature this government is assuming, and governments all across the world. I saw on the first page someone complaining about information taps on all incoming and outgoing internet information. Then Japan with their restrictions on waist size. When will it end? On June 22 2008 15:24 Jonoman92 wrote: Fuckin America, I barely know any foreign languages and it's pretty fuckin hard to even visit a foreign country seeing as I live in Kansas and am at least 1 thousand miles from the nearest foreign country. And not like i'm gonna randomly visit Canada and the only times i've been to Mexico was for dumb resort vacation when I was younger. I feel so uncultured, I should learn French or something. It's bash your country, not complain because you feel uneducated. | ||
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strongwind
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On June 19 2008 16:52 HeadBangaa wrote: California, full of pseudoliberal fags. Next up: polygamy and bestiality. | ||
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
As for "fear" of terrorism - I felt like I made my point in a pretty humorous and clear way. The point is - your chances of being affected by a terrorist attack are negligible compared to every other risk you face in living your daily life. Yet politicians, especially Bush & Co have used fear of terrorism to guide our government and foreign policies in directions that have done nothing but make life worse for everyone around the world. And as for the comment about "people wanting freedom for free" - read up on your history. The USA had a heavy hand in creating the situations in the middle east. The fact is - oil prices and terrorism against the United States are a direct result of our middle east foreign policy over the last 100 or so years. If China occupied our country and forcibly instructed us on how to distribute our natural resource wealth, you can bet your ass any American who committed a "terrorist" act against China would be a HERO in the eyes of other Americans. Want terrorism to go away? Let every other country run their own government, and quit acting like western democracy is the holy grail of government and it's our divine right to force it on anyone who disagrees. | ||
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.MistiK
Netherlands347 Posts
On June 23 2008 04:13 Louder wrote: Want terrorism to go away? Let every other country run their own government, and quit acting like western democracy is the holy grail of government and it's our divine right to force it on anyone who disagrees. amen | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
On June 23 2008 04:13 Louder wrote: Want terrorism to go away? Let every other country run their own government, and quit acting like western democracy is the holy grail of government and it's our divine right to force it on anyone who disagrees. Yeah whenever I try to explain to someone we have terrorism from these people because we interfere with other countries and our corporations fuck with their economies their response is usually "no we fuck with them because they come over here and fuck with is" or something to the extent. Basically the majority of people who think invading Iraq will solve our terrorist problems talks themselves into believing that by going in circles. Irrational people can't be reasoned with, its just too bad they have the right to vote. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On June 23 2008 04:13 Louder wrote: First off - deadbeef, I was being sarcastic - especially the area I live in, most people you talk to think all Muslims and especially everyone in the middle east is either already a terrorist or will likely become one. Hence my remark about those scary people who don't believe in Jesus. I'm an Atheist, by the way. As for "fear" of terrorism - I felt like I made my point in a pretty humorous and clear way. The point is - your chances of being affected by a terrorist attack are negligible compared to every other risk you face in living your daily life. Yet politicians, especially Bush & Co have used fear of terrorism to guide our government and foreign policies in directions that have done nothing but make life worse for everyone around the world. And as for the comment about "people wanting freedom for free" - read up on your history. The USA had a heavy hand in creating the situations in the middle east. The fact is - oil prices and terrorism against the United States are a direct result of our middle east foreign policy over the last 100 or so years. If China occupied our country and forcibly instructed us on how to distribute our natural resource wealth, you can bet your ass any American who committed a "terrorist" act against China would be a HERO in the eyes of other Americans. Want terrorism to go away? Let every other country run their own government, and quit acting like western democracy is the holy grail of government and it's our divine right to force it on anyone who disagrees. What a great post, I couldn't agree more. The problem is, the people in charge and powerful lobbies profit from going to war and introducing surveillance measures. And they are successful at convincing the unthinking majority with their absurd reasoning. | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
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EGMachine
United States1643 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 23 2008 06:02 Scorch wrote: What a great post, I couldn't agree more. The problem is, the people in charge and powerful lobbies profit from going to war and introducing surveillance measures. And they are successful at convincing the unthinking majority with their absurd reasoning. Queue the BLOOD FOR OIL idiots. | ||
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tec27
United States3702 Posts
On June 22 2008 17:12 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote: I very much agree with this, wonderful post http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/21/washington/21fisacnd.html?hp That pisses me off beyond belief. What's even more irritating than them passing that is that people don't care. They say "oh, I have nothing to hide anyway, and it's helping to catch terrorists." It's generally stupid people who say things like that. This government is taking small steps to totalitarianism, all under the guise of "protection." I think it was Ben Franklin who said, "Any man willing to give up freedom for security, gets neither freedom nor security." (Not an exact quote.) Then Saturday morning (I think that's when it was) I see Bush's stupid face on my TV talking about how this will assist in the capture of terrorists, and is a vital part in the protection of the nation. It's such incredible bullshit. There aren't enough good people left running for office to ensure that this is going to change, either. It's only going to get worse, no matter who becomes our next president. I don't want to see Barrack get the spot at all, because he's simply going to move us in an incredibly socialistic direction, which I am entirely against; however, if McCain gets in, it's simply going to be more of the government intruding in my life like this. I don't think Obama will be much different, sadly. It makes this year's vote completely futile, to me. In my opinion, this is the biggest issue facing our country, and nobody is concerned about it. Yeah, gas prices suck right now, and the economy is headed on a downward spiral, but what good is money when you have no freedom? I'd rather live broke and free than rich and under the tyrannical control of a government. (I know that's not how the saying goes, but I won't technically be a slave.) It saddens me so much to see what's going on in this country, and across the world, and how no body minds what's happening at all. People are more concerned about whether two gay people get married, or whether a teenager gets an abortion than they are about the oppressive nature this government is assuming, and governments all across the world. I saw on the first page someone complaining about information taps on all incoming and outgoing internet information. Then Japan with their restrictions on waist size. When will it end? Crappy situation though, fucking US citizens =/ | ||
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Peru363 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
On June 23 2008 06:26 Machine[USA] wrote: USA is FAT! ... HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE WTF Oh and to bash my country, uhh we eat dog? I heard it tasted good though lol | ||
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
On June 23 2008 06:26 Machine[USA] wrote: USA is FAT! Conchatumadre... wtf is up with this? This has to be some kind of metabolic disorder. | ||
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asdflkjh
Brazil15 Posts
-Way up there: The media. I think there would be very few places where the ENTIRE media is as manipulative, monopolized, interest-driven, commercialized, corrupt, shallow (EIGHT FUCKING SEASONS OF BIG BROTHER) and just plain stupid as it is here. Seriously. Our country is near being run by a single TV station, but it has been worse in the past. It WAS run by this same TV station. Thank God for the internet; although it's not nearly enough mainstream, at least it's something. -Deeply tied with the fact that the media is as manipulative and misleading as it is, but also caused by other factors, namely a lack of proper education: a brainwashed general population. People whose only dream is to be able to live the shallow, stupid, empty lives played on soap operas; people who will mindlessly act like drones controlled by the media, doing anything it tells them (sometimes even explicitly). The fact BBB has 8 seasons and is still popular goes to show how shallow people here are. Although, as I mentioned, I don't really hate the people themselves for their stupidity, but what they were pidgeonholed into becoming. -CORRUPT FUCKING POLITICIANS. Fucking assholes will never stop sucking the endless taxes we pay like fucking black holes to their pockets. At least there's been an upsurge of scandals, which means at least some of the fuckers are being uncovered. Take note that the media is promoting this because it's in their interest to burn these guys; the widespread corruption is as old as the country itself, it's just being shown more prominently now, thankfully. And the idiots who watch Globo believe it really started this government. -Inept government, while we're at it. The interesting fact is that the brazilian laws are, in a good portion of them, actually really good, well written with good ideas. They're just executed awfully. This is, in part, due to the moneysucking by the corrupt politicians, but it's also due to incompetence from the government. But this is also as old as the country itself. I'd actually say the present government, while bad, is a very reasonable improvement over the last ones. We've had FAR worse in our history. -Crime rising through the fucking roof due to, yet again, corrupt politicians, police, and generalized poverty, which stimulates traffic since it constitutes an alternative for the people with nothing; even if they are not dealers or traffic soldiers, they provide protection and a means for the traffic masterminds. If the huge amount of taxes we pay were actually invested 100% in making the lives of the poor better, crime would plummet to very acceptable levels. -As mentioned, endless, endless fucking taxes. Now, if the taxes were actually used, I'd have no qualms with them. But they just go straight into financing some senator's trip to the Bahamas or something. Fucking assholes. It's not all bad, though. For exemple, I'm just starting the Medicine course in a quite prestigious university here, and know how much I pay? Nothing. It's a federal university, ran by tax money. All I had to do was study like a motherfucker for 3 years (that is, during high school, which lasts this long here) to pass the admission exam (vestibular). I also like the SUS, which is an universal healthcare system. It's in a poor state due to corruption and administrative ineptitude, as I mentioned, but it's really well thought out in theory and it provides at least something for people who would otherwise just die for lack of treatment. I don't use it as my family's in a good enough financial situation to afford a healthcare plan, but I still respect the idea immensely. The biofuel development initiatives by some government agencies are also really cool amidst all the pressure from the oil industry. Universal education below superior (university) level is also a really good idea but it's poorer still than healthcare, due to namely a lack of interest and compleins steming from the short sightedness from the population in general. | ||
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5226 Posts
On June 23 2008 07:47 skindzer wrote: Conchatumadre... wtf is up with this? This has to be some kind of metabolic disorder. kill with fire imo. | ||
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T-P-S
United States204 Posts
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
On June 20 2008 06:52 Nightmarjoo wrote: United States + Show Spoiler + I love my country, and I love living here, especially when I hear how things are outside of the country, but there's still plenty I dislike, mostly the people. The school I go to is the best public school in the state (Ohio), yet it's in like the worst public school district. The country in general fucks the education system horribly. Kids are educated to be stupid slobs so that the media is successful, people care about celebrities, everyone is a bunch of ignorant xenophobic socially backwards animals. I don't do anything or put any effort into school, while being at a school ranked #276 in the whole country, and I get top grades in the "hardest" classes, and everyone tells me how great and smart I am, and it's only because everyone is fucking stupid. But it's not really their fault, because they're being bred to be stupid. Education is shifting from being a system to force Americans to compete and hopefully be superior (educationally) to people around the world (namely, smarter than the soviets) to being a fucking day-care. I'm not allowed to think in terms of stereotypes or be racist or sexist at all even when I see these stereotypes overwhelmingly on a daily basis. My school district is 80% "black" and 20% "white" even though, everyone who's not black (asians, hispanics, which apparently covers everyone not "black" or "white") is also part of "white". People don't just think it's cool to be dumb, it really is cool to be stupid and be "gangsta". Half of fucking bnet even calls people their "niggas" and talks in butchered "ghetto" english, and half of fucking bnet isn't even just americans wtf. The majority of the people I see at school on a daily basis are aggressive black men/boys and shrieking black girls/women. I wish they sounded like chimps, they'd be easier to listen to. Most of the white people are worse, in that they actually copy this stupid behavior because it's "cool". My school is so ahead of the rest of the district, that they've decided to level out the playing field so we don't feel too elitist. They do this by dragging my school down to fail with the rest of the schools so no one looks "bad". It's fucking bullshit. The No Child Left Behind Act fucking butchered education. All it does is take kids who don't want to succeed, and put them in "good" schools to try and help them. But since they've been socially taught to not learn or succeed, all they do is bring the whole school down. I'm supposed to compete with the rest of the world, but my country is socially teaching all kids to be stupid, so the media and education caters to stupid people. We really aren't taught to learn a foreign language. We have mandatory foreign language classes, but most of the time you really aren't expected to learn the language, just pass the class. The fact that you can pass a language class without learning the language alone is ridiculous. Most of the country it seems like are fundamentalist conservative right wing morons who are xenophobic, homophobic, classist, and afraid of technology and progress. This results in the rest of the world out-competing us in every area. We've thrown aside the things that made us the most powerful country under this vague notion that we'll just always be the best, despite that we're slipping behind the world. Since I'm American, any argument I ever make online is dismissed because I'm American. I'm not allowed to point out people wrong in my country, because it's not socially acceptable to be intelligent. I'm not allowed to point out people wrong outside of my country, because I'm an American slob. I'm not allowed to be racist or nationalist at all because I'm American, but then people treat me like I'm racist and nationalist because I'm from America. There's this Catch 22, where the rest of the world won't let America not be ignornant fuckheads, but expects us not to be anyway, so we're just universally hated. People inside the country whine that the government sucks, but they don't try to do anything about it. They complain how the whole politics system sucks, and protest it by not getting involved. People refuse to vote because there isn't a candidate specifically tailored to their own beliefs. You're not allowed to be in the middle, you have to be either left or right, and if you're not you're just hated by everyone. It's always left vs right, but both suck. The right are the fucking backwards ones, who ruin the country yet think they rule the world. They edge the country towards totalitarianism every chance they get. They're the people who read 1984, and say, Hey, this is a pretty good idea! Then there's the left, who read 1984 and say Man, we gotta protest this! Lets protest it by doing NOTHING, that'll show 'em! The whole Clinton vs Obama thing was ridiculous. They were basically the same candidate ideologically, yet people were pitting them against eachother like it was Bush vs Gore again. The people who supported Obama hated Clinton just for being Clinton, the same assbackwards way the Republicans hate Clinton for being Clinton. There's no difference between Republicans and Democrats, they're the same idiots just preaching the other side. Obama supporters are cultist like Ron Paul supporters are. The country's hipocrisy rivals 1984's DoubleThink. Republicans yell at Democrats for doing exactly what the Republicans are doing. Democrats let themselves get fucked in the ass, and when they get some power they either shoot themselves in the foot, or do nothing at all, the great wait-it-out tactic lol. People whine about the economy when they're still in fucking middle class despite the economy going to shit. They bawwwwwwww about gas being so high, but all that does is mean they have to remove luxury expenses. The lower class really is going to shit, whether they drive or not, because the price of food, electricity, gas (for house heating), and all appliances and services are going up, without wages going up, which only further hurts the entire economy. So people decide to counter this by whining, and doing nothing else. Instead of finding a way to fix the problem technologically, they just blame people for the problem. You're so socially expected to do and have things that you're a complete enigma when you don't want them. My biggest complaint is the technology thing. People are afraid of all forms of technology they don't already own, it's ridiculous. People look down on the sciences, even though the sciences is what brought them all of their creature comforts. People are so un-laid-back it's retarded. Everyone is busy with their life-drama, if they're not busy watching soap-operas on tv. Reality shows are fucking retarded. Most movies coming out fucking suck too. America is just flawed by being socially backwards, and by educating the new generations to be socially backwards. We throw out everything that ever made us great, and then try to bring the world down around us. Look at all the shitty things happening in other countries as result of the US? All this terrorism scare shit? And we're in a war and losing? We're the fucking United States who fought back the nazi regime to Berlin and we can't occupy an oil field in the middle of a desert? And the people we're occupying for some strange reason don't want to be occupied but we can't imagine why... Doesn't everyone like being occupied by Americans? Look at Israel, fucking up shit in Lebanon. Since when has Israel had the privillege to fuck up a war and come out fine? It used to be, if Israel lost a war they'd lose their country, so they didn't lose wars, and didn't start fights they didn't need or couldn't finish, but the US has made them so lazy they start random fights now wtf. The United States just isn't capable of living not in a state of Cold War yet I guess. Everyone who was raised and educated in the Cold War is educating their children like it's the Cold War, except without any pressure to learn maths and sciences. Which just leaves everyone regressive and backwards about the Cold War present -.- Then the rest of the world talks to us like we're crap and wonders why we don't like them, but still expects us to do shit for them, then complains we're too involved in the rest of the world's affairs. Our politics in general is hillarious. McCain, a tortured war hero is condoning torture, lol. Kerry gets flamed for being a veteran by a draft dodger. Obama is called a terrorist, wtf. The right flames McCain the whole election, and when he wins the nomination he's suddenly their hero. Clinton has the nomination in the bag, then manages to do everything wrong assuming she's still won the election, and doesn't figure out she might lose and restructures her campaign until it's too late. McCain pushes and supports everything Bush made and did, but people prefer him because he's not black and isn't a woman. Then liberals start gathering around Ron Paul as their hero, even when he openly denounces the theories of evolution. Clinton supporters are such blind idiots they try and threaten Obama supporters by saying they'll vote for McCain over Obama when it makes no sense to do so, especially when Obama ideologically is basically just a more charismatic Clinton. People vote or vote against Obama because he's black, Clinton because she's a woman, why does shit like that even matter in the 21st century, in the land of oppourtunities and freedom? People worship violence, drugs, alcohol, hate education, it's silly lol. If you don't mind racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, a fear of progress and a tendacy towards social and technological regression, the United States is great! Atleast we accept our capitalism and don't try and call it socialism. This is one of the best reads I've had in a while. The U.S. is going downhill bigtime... and guess what! You're our role model! We <3 you. -Canada  And I wonder how many 5 year olds that 5 year old can take on... | ||
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On June 23 2008 06:26 Machine[USA] wrote: USA is FAT! WHAT THE FUCK? | ||
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caution.slip
United States775 Posts
On June 23 2008 08:13 asdflkjh wrote: Hmm, let's see... -Way up there: The media. I think there would be very few places where the ENTIRE media is as manipulative, monopolized, interest-driven, commercialized, corrupt, shallow (EIGHT FUCKING SEASONS OF BIG BROTHER) and just plain stupid as it is here. Seriously. Our country is near being run by a single TV station, but it has been worse in the past. It WAS run by this same TV station. Thank God for the internet; although it's not nearly enough mainstream, at least it's something. -Deeply tied with the fact that the media is as manipulative and misleading as it is, but also caused by other factors, namely a lack of proper education: a brainwashed general population. People whose only dream is to be able to live the shallow, stupid, empty lives played on soap operas; people who will mindlessly act like drones controlled by the media, doing anything it tells them (sometimes even explicitly). The fact BBB has 8 seasons and is still popular goes to show how shallow people here are. Although, as I mentioned, I don't really hate the people themselves for their stupidity, but what they were pidgeonholed into becoming. -CORRUPT FUCKING POLITICIANS. Fucking assholes will never stop sucking the endless taxes we pay like fucking black holes to their pockets. At least there's been an upsurge of scandals, which means at least some of the fuckers are being uncovered. Take note that the media is promoting this because it's in their interest to burn these guys; the widespread corruption is as old as the country itself, it's just being shown more prominently now, thankfully. And the idiots who watch Globo believe it really started this government. -Inept government, while we're at it. The interesting fact is that the brazilian laws are, in a good portion of them, actually really good, well written with good ideas. They're just executed awfully. This is, in part, due to the moneysucking by the corrupt politicians, but it's also due to incompetence from the government. But this is also as old as the country itself. I'd actually say the present government, while bad, is a very reasonable improvement over the last ones. We've had FAR worse in our history. -Crime rising through the fucking roof due to, yet again, corrupt politicians, police, and generalized poverty, which stimulates traffic since it constitutes an alternative for the people with nothing; even if they are not dealers or traffic soldiers, they provide protection and a means for the traffic masterminds. If the huge amount of taxes we pay were actually invested 100% in making the lives of the poor better, crime would plummet to very acceptable levels. -As mentioned, endless, endless fucking taxes. Now, if the taxes were actually used, I'd have no qualms with them. But they just go straight into financing some senator's trip to the Bahamas or something. Fucking assholes. It's not all bad, though. For exemple, I'm just starting the Medicine course in a quite prestigious university here, and know how much I pay? Nothing. It's a federal university, ran by tax money. All I had to do was study like a motherfucker for 3 years (that is, during high school, which lasts this long here) to pass the admission exam (vestibular). I also like the SUS, which is an universal healthcare system. It's in a poor state due to corruption and administrative ineptitude, as I mentioned, but it's really well thought out in theory and it provides at least something for people who would otherwise just die for lack of treatment. I don't use it as my family's in a good enough financial situation to afford a healthcare plan, but I still respect the idea immensely. The biofuel development initiatives by some government agencies are also really cool amidst all the pressure from the oil industry. Universal education below superior (university) level is also a really good idea but it's poorer still than healthcare, due to namely a lack of interest and compleins steming from the short sightedness from the population in general. yo i hear in brazil its really dangerous for girls at night, rich families hire bodyguards for their daughters so they can be outside after the sun sets, and in schools all the kids have "big brothers" that look after them | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
On June 23 2008 04:13 Louder wrote: Want terrorism to go away? Let every other country run their own government, and quit acting like western democracy is the holy grail of government and it's our divine right to force it on anyone who disagrees. It's great that we in the States have a core group of adolescent intellectuals who are privy to the motivations of our aggressors. | ||
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
On June 20 2008 00:36 Boblion wrote: + Show Spoiler + France: a broke country where the president can increase his wage by 130% and reduce the taxes for rich people but then he will explain that there is no more money left and that he have to reduce the number of civil servants by two. A country where the president during his campaign can quote Jaures, and de Gaulle and then spent his hollidays on the yacht owned by one of his billionaire friends, and take the decision to move towards full integration with Nato. Moreover our dear president behave like a wannabe pimp: Scarface[name] KK ? This president got elected by an aging population in a country where "Security" is one of the main issue. People here are self centered, sometimes racist ( every kind of racism ). Youngs are angry because the retirement age is now 65 years and they will have to pay the pensions of the older generations.Our dear president said that he wanted to " donner de la valeur au travail " but inflation increase way more than wages and half-time shitty jobs are nowadays the norm. Bye bye 35 H now our government want people to work longer. 0xdeadbeef said how bad the situation is in Germany about internet freedom but here it is worse. Thanks to a new law, the Internet access providers have to shut down your connection if you download illegal stuff ( without judicial procedure ). Oh and here we have a marvellous currency: the euro. 22,000 $ in the US: + Show Spoiler + The 2010 Chevrolet Camaro V6 coupe will start around $22,000 with the V8 model around $28,000. Convertibles will likely start at around $28,000 for a V6 model and range up to $35,000 for a V8. 25000 $ in France: WELCOME TO FRANCE ! Quite a good start. Plus : French people are bad mannered and don't give a damn about their environment : unless cities spend awful lots of money to clean, streets are dirty everywhere.And the countryside is polluted. Public transportation is lousy anywhere except Paris (not the surrounding suburbs where it is lame too), and even in Paris, subway and buses stop way too early at night. Lobbies have as much -nasty- influence on politicians as anywhere else in the world. Politicians themselves name some amendments after companies because they are custom taylored for them. Screw the people, it is not like law is made to protect them Trade union leaders are all jerks who call for a strike every other day even if they have nothing precise to ask for. Even though there is a LOT to ask for. All political parties have 26796 wannabe leaders who tackle each other instead of thinking about ways to improve our country. A racist party did 12% in a national election, and its leader placed 2nd in the presidential race in 2001. Every single politician will blame Europe for any shit that happens, when THEY are to blame. Our Gangsta President can decide on his own to send troops to Afghanistan just to please Bush (how silly is that???) and our few weapon manufacturers. Fuck the fact that the French people do not want it. Our President can get any journalist fired if they displease him. He has done twice already. France has supported a shitload of dictators (especially in Africa) and still does. And yet we still claim to be the country of Human Rights. Edit : On June 22 2008 03:21 caution.slip wrote: porn is illegal in china Woaw. China sucks big time. | ||
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peetah
Sweden88 Posts
On June 20 2008 02:55 OneBlueAugust wrote: Or a Protoss one!!Hell, they're more likely to be killed by a home-grown, christian zealot than a middle-eastern one. On topic: .. 1. I hate that our retard-government voted yes to a new law that gives FRA (Försvarets radioanstalt), in english "Swedish National Defence Radio Establishment" the right to force all of our ISP:s to let FRA FULLY inspect ALL internet traffic. At the moment, FRA is using one of the fastest supercomputers in the world, and they want more computerpower as well. OK?! We, the tax-payers, is funding this crap. We are giving the goverment a big chunk of our sallary, so they can control our communication via the internet. FACE IT, YOU WILL NOT CATCH "TERRORISTS" BY TRYING TO LURK THEIR MAIL, AND IF PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO BLOW UP SHIT HERE, LISTENING TO THEIR MAIL-CONVERSATIONS WON'T STOP THEM, THIS CRAP IS JUST ANOTHER MONEY SINK AND ANOTHER WAY TO CONTROL CITIZENS. 2 a. Some of our laws regarding alcholhol is just filled with double standards of morality. For you who don't know, the government in Sweden have a monopoly in liquir and beer (regular stores can sell it if the percent of alchohol is 3.5 % or lower. The place where we go to buy of alchohol is called "Systembolaget", and the age limit there is 20. The strange thing is that in the age of 18, it is legal to go to clubs, bars and so on and drink there. What if i'm not 21 and wan't to drink at home? A beer at a pub/club here in Sweden costs almost 4 or 5 times more than in "Systembolaget", and to begin with, the price there is high as well cuz our taxe for alchohol is so big. 2 b. The state here had monopoly in all sorts of gamble to not long ago. Nowdays, companies can compete at that market i.e internet-poker. (Private casinos is still not legal. We got only three here, and all of them is runned by the government. They were built around 5 years ago, before that, there was no casinos in Sweden.) The thing is, when the state realized how much money there was in internet-poker, they quickly entered that branch of industry. They claim that they take a higher amount of social responsebility than the regular internet-gamble companies. They are reffered to as the "bad" guys, the internet-poker runned by the state is "better", ofcourse. IMO, states should get off the market. They can never get as effective as a "regular" company, and therefore, the money of the tax-payers go to waste. A general problem here in Sweden is that the state fuck around in our lives to much, please let us take care of our own businesses. | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On June 24 2008 00:29 peetah wrote: + Show Spoiler + Or a Protoss one!! On topic: .. 1. I hate that our retard-government voted yes to a new law that gives FRA (Försvarets radioanstalt), in english "Swedish National Defence Radio Establishment" the right to force all of our ISP:s to let FRA FULLY inspect ALL internet traffic. At the moment, FRA is using one of the fastest supercomputers in the world, and they want more computerpower as well. OK?! We, the tax-payers, is funding this crap. We are giving the goverment a big chunk of our sallary, so they can control our communication via the internet. FACE IT, YOU WILL NOT CATCH "TERRORISTS" BY TRYING TO LURK THEIR MAIL, AND IF PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO BLOW UP SHIT HERE, LISTENING TO THEIR MAIL-CONVERSATIONS WON'T STOP THEM, THIS CRAP IS JUST ANOTHER MONEY SINK AND ANOTHER WAY TO CONTROL CITIZENS. 2 a. Some of our laws regarding alcholhol is just filled with double standards of morality. For you who don't know, the government in Sweden have a monopoly in liquir and beer (regular stores can sell it if the percent of alchohol is 3.5 % or lower. The place where we go to buy of alchohol is called "Systembolaget", and the age limit there is 21. The strange thing is that in the age of 18, it is legal to go to clubs, bars and so on and drink there. What if i'm not 21 and wan't to drink at home? A beer at a pub/club here in Sweden costs almost 4 or 5 times more than in "Systembolaget", and to begin with, the price there is high as well cuz our taxe for alchohol is so big. 2 b. The state here had monopoly in all sorts of gamble to not long ago. Nowdays, companies can compete at that market i.e internet-poker. (Private casinos is still not legal. We got only three here, and all of them is runned by the government. They were built around 5 years ago, before that, there was no casinos in Sweden.) The thing is, when the state realized how much money there was in internet-poker, they quickly entered that branch of industry. They claim that they take a higher amount of social responsebility than the regular internet-gamble companies. They are reffered to as the "bad" guys, the internet-poker runned by the state is "better", ofcourse. IMO, states should get off the market. They can never get as effective as a "regular" company, and therefore, the money of the tax-payers go to waste. A general problem here in Sweden is that the state fuck around in our lives to much, please let us take care of our own businesses. That's so true, and now that they voted yes on the FRA law who knows what they'll think of next. | ||
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peetah
Sweden88 Posts
On June 24 2008 00:33 0xDEADBEEF wrote: Smart criminals will use strong encryption or no telecommunication/internet at all to communicate, so... the only ones affected will be everyone else (all normal citizens) of course. And there will be a lot of false positives. Yeah, but encryption can also be regulated through law. As far as i know, there is illegal for people in France to encrypt their own information. It would not surprise me at all to see the same happen in Sweden in 3-5 years or so. We are becoming the next DDR, or China. And yes, why take for granted that criminals will use telecommunication or internet for communication? If everybody know that these law is in function, then people that really have a need to pass the information unnoticed will do it via text on paper or just meet somewhere and say it..... It's just sad to see this happening. | ||
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XCetron
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
On June 24 2008 01:02 XCetron wrote: wait wtf, encrypting information is illegal in france? This is an outrage, and whats the reasoning for this? I don't think it is illegal actually. But it used to be until a few years back. Why? Same as everywhere else (that includes the US, until the mid 90s) : encryption was used to communicate with the Enemy (ie : the Eastern block). It only took 15 years for our governments to realize the Cold War was over. Kind of on topic, our former Prime Minister has been indicted in quite a big affair (Clearstream, if any of you heard of it), and heavily encrypted CDs were seized at his home. The police thought they contained evidences and valuable names, but it took them ages to decrypt everything. Sadly, the CDs only contained some if his poems. Yeah, our former Prime Minister was a poet. France sucks. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On June 24 2008 01:29 0xDEADBEEF wrote: In the UK it's not illegal per se but you have to decrypt it for the police if they demand it. I guess it's the same in France (don't know though). Basically, encryption is made useless by that. The government doesn't like privacy respectively not being able to get access to certain data. If you encrypt something and don't want to tell the key it is assumed that you want to hide something illegal... that's the reasoning behind this. Expect similar laws being made in other countries too. according to wiki: Until 1996 it was illegal 1996 - 2004 128 bits encryption max Since 2004 there are no limits. | ||
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peetah
Sweden88 Posts
On June 24 2008 02:21 Boblion wrote: according to wiki: Until 1996 it was illegal 1996 - 2004 128 bits encryption max Since 2004 there are no limits. I see then, excuse me for spreading incorrect information. | ||
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
On June 23 2008 20:23 HeadBangaa wrote: It's great that we in the States have a core group of adolescent intellectuals who are privy to the motivations of our aggressors. Is this a joke? Because it doesn't really make much sense. It certainly doesn't do much in the way of argue a point - instead you try to just marginalize my opinion by slapping a label on me (an ill-fitting one, at that). If you don't think history clearly demonstrates the motivations of "our aggressors", then you are woefully uneducated. How did radical Muslim clerics get power in Iran? Oh that's right, the CIA removed the elected leader of Iran in the mid-50s because the UK and US were angry about oil prices. We installed a shill as president who was then overthrown by radicals. I can't imagine why they would have anything against us - can you? How about Iraq? The argument that we invaded on the basis of human rights violations is entirely fallacious, as there are known to be much greater perpetrators of human rights violations in Africa and eastern Asia - they just don't have all that oil and infrastructure that Iraq did. But we attacked anyway, and completely ruined their country, all the while private contractors who won no-bid agreements committed malfeasance that has cost taxpayers hundred of billions in debt - and instead of helping rebuild, they stole. I can't even fathom why the Iraqis would ever do anything but worship at the feet of the mighty USA. How about Afghanistan and Pakistan? Can't imagine why terrorists there would be after us. It couldn't be because we armed the most radical bunch of Muslims we could find to fight the Soviets, then hauled ass when things got messy, could it? But then again, I'm just an "adolescent intellectual". I should listen to mister Bush, he knows what's best. Right? That's worked out well. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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friendofsam
Ireland9 Posts
countries are fucked up ideas. a country is basically a really big tribe. first there were tribes, then city-states, and now nation-states. in the future there will be no countries, and people will be free.. | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
You made a ridiculous sweeping statement and I pointed that out. I usually see statements like that from kids. So I got your age wrong. It was still a ridiculous statement. | ||
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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
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raiame
United States421 Posts
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