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TreKbanned
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden50 Posts
September 06 2003 11:09 GMT
#1
play very little or just badluck? or why did he lose t_t he gosu.
Also some1 know who win danish wcg? =)
-.-V
zum_pl
Profile Joined July 2003
Poland52 Posts
September 06 2003 11:21 GMT
#2
who knows what could happen if the tournament were played bo3, not bo1...in bo1 there always can be a suprise, but anyway i dont think that blackman wasnt prepared for tourney
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
September 06 2003 12:51 GMT
#3
it was best of 1 in winners bracket too? =[
h e l l o e
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 06 2003 12:54 GMT
#4
wcg usa was all bo1 too except for the finals

kinda sad that they plan a 3 day event with 20 people and they don't even do groups or bo3

oh well i'm not complaining :[
why so 진지해?
Zorglub
Profile Joined October 2002
Denmark313 Posts
September 06 2003 13:09 GMT
#5
Blackman was unlucky, 1 loss vs zerg and 1 vs cheese.

Danish wcg is to be decided later today, but I guess Arch will take it...
NerO
Profile Joined February 2003
United States2071 Posts
September 06 2003 14:15 GMT
#6
where are these replays of him losing i cant find them t.t
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 06 2003 14:53 GMT
#7
many monkeyspank =t hanx
River me timbers.
Trainspotting
Profile Joined September 2003
United States28 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-06 15:08:43
September 06 2003 15:08 GMT
#8
I didn't think blackman was gonna come thru...there were lots of Poland stars this year...I mean has anyone ever seen those Ocapiet Triplets that play the Violen? Wow they are sexy.
Got some teef?
mvnL
Profile Joined January 2003
Poland394 Posts
September 06 2003 15:16 GMT
#9
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Platon[HS]
Profile Joined February 2003
Poland24 Posts
September 06 2003 15:24 GMT
#10
1st game he lost was zvz and his opponenet make a lot of lings and second game he lost was zvt when Macia make 2 rax bunker rush.
Nobody is prefect, I must be Nobody
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
September 06 2003 15:27 GMT
#11
NO!
Macia the TurretMaster just too good to BM !
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
Zorglub
Profile Joined October 2002
Denmark313 Posts
September 06 2003 15:29 GMT
#12
ohhh his opponent made a lot of lings....no wonder he lost then
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
September 06 2003 16:22 GMT
#13
so sad when newbies take skilled players out of tournaments with one shot luck strats.
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
ToKoreaWithLuck
Profile Joined July 2003
Norway227 Posts
September 06 2003 16:26 GMT
#14
this years wcg is a joke
TKWL
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
September 06 2003 16:27 GMT
#15
i think the guy who beat out blackman should be punched in the face --
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
MyztiC`Terran
Profile Joined August 2003
United States374 Posts
September 06 2003 16:28 GMT
#16
Who eliminated Blackman?
SuGoSu
Profile Joined June 2003
Turkey109 Posts
September 06 2003 16:31 GMT
#17
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o_O O_o
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
September 06 2003 16:48 GMT
#18
On September 07 2003 01:31 SuGoSu wrote:
i heard bm cried a lot after elimination T_T


I would too, especially after it being BBS bullshit.
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 06 2003 16:58 GMT
#19
If I were him I wouldn't cry, I'd just accept that fact that I was an idiot for not playing safer vs newbies! :[
why so 진지해?
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
September 06 2003 16:59 GMT
#20
i wouldn't cried. i'd kick some #@#~!!!
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
September 06 2003 17:01 GMT
#21
On September 07 2003 01:58 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
If I were him I wouldn't cry, I'd just accept that fact that I was an idiot for not playing safer vs newbies! :[


exactly my point. that's why i'd go mad and kick @#~||@# !!!
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
September 06 2003 17:03 GMT
#22
why only bo1?
bo1 poland wcg, usa, even korea ...
here in germany we had a bo3 tourney with loser bracket! That's how things should go ~~
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
September 06 2003 17:36 GMT
#23
On September 07 2003 01:58 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
If I were him I wouldn't cry, I'd just accept that fact that I was an idiot for not playing safer vs newbies! :[


That's the sad thing. It's all well and good to say he should have played it safe vs newbies, but that sort of lan knowledge only really comes with experience. Bad luck blackman
Pomozite
Profile Joined October 2002
Croatia647 Posts
September 06 2003 17:41 GMT
#24
On September 07 2003 01:31 SuGoSu wrote:
i heard bm cried a lot after elimination T_T

He earned 5 000 $ last year. I would cry too.
i used to be schizophrenic, but we re ok now
Veg
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada2945 Posts
September 06 2003 18:13 GMT
#25
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asdasdas
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
September 06 2003 18:14 GMT
#26
On September 07 2003 03:13 Veg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2003 02:41 Pomozite wrote:
On September 07 2003 01:31 SuGoSu wrote:
i heard bm cried a lot after elimination T_T

He earned 5 000 $ last year. I would cry too.



shut up
he was planning on meeting a lot of korean friends there
they should just ban everyone in tourney and make dune vs blackman finals +_+


grow up
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
September 06 2003 18:16 GMT
#27
if arch loses to that newbie ut)smeagol im going to laugh
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
mvnL
Profile Joined January 2003
Poland394 Posts
September 06 2003 19:23 GMT
#28
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Trainspotting
Profile Joined September 2003
United States28 Posts
September 06 2003 19:27 GMT
#29
To Veg: If meeting his friends in korea then I'm sure [pG] sponsors will fly him there for a few days and have him a place to stay. He won't be able to play in WCG Grand Finals but he still gets to meet his friends.

I don't know why Poland doesn't have 3 slots for BW...There are no good WC3 players in Poland except Ai77.Ironman. They have no good CS, UT2K3, AOM, or HALO players either.
Got some teef?
aK)Paladin(B2k
Profile Joined February 2003
Australia173 Posts
September 06 2003 20:07 GMT
#30
trainspotting is pg shitting money that they will send blackman to korea to meet his friends?
The shits chess it aint checkers
Kontra[MDK]
Profile Joined October 2002
Portugal1013 Posts
September 06 2003 20:13 GMT
#31
ROTFL, OF COURSE PG will play a trip for blackman to go meet his friends, and will also pay for a trip to DISNEYLAND to them all!! ROTFL
Somebody call for an exterminator?
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 06 2003 20:20 GMT
#32
lol.
why so 진지해?
Jamers
Profile Joined October 2002
Israel1327 Posts
September 06 2003 20:32 GMT
#33
Rage is back? =[.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 06 2003 20:47 GMT
#34
If blackman wanted to go to korea so bad he would be able to go to korea.
no1important
Profile Joined December 2002
557 Posts
September 06 2003 20:53 GMT
#35
macia is gonna get beaten up at school hopefully unless he dusnt go to school o_O
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
September 06 2003 21:19 GMT
#36
On September 07 2003 05:13 Kontra[MDK] wrote:
ROTFL, OF COURSE PG will play a trip for blackman to go meet his friends, and will also pay for a trip to DISNEYLAND to them all!! ROTFL



LOL !
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
FizbAn
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)80 Posts
September 06 2003 23:53 GMT
#37
On September 07 2003 01:31 SuGoSu wrote:
i heard bm cried a lot after elimination T_T


All of you who know nothing and talk crap, please just SHUT UP.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
September 06 2003 23:55 GMT
#38
Fizban, Replays, [of yourself] please!!
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
September 07 2003 00:01 GMT
#39
you first bro.
Shockey
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2615 Posts
September 07 2003 00:04 GMT
#40
On September 07 2003 05:13 Kontra[MDK] wrote:
ROTFL, OF COURSE PG will play a trip for blackman to go meet his friends, and will also pay for a trip to DISNEYLAND to them all!! ROTFL

owned.
Mentos
Profile Joined August 2003
United Kingdom203 Posts
September 07 2003 00:14 GMT
#41
TranCe if Macia is a newbie, than u dont even know what starcraft is, ok ? So be quiet pls, lamer.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
September 07 2003 00:59 GMT
#42
WCG 3 years in a row and he didn't win it (Poland) once

I didn't expect him to make it.
Administrator
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-07 02:28:55
September 07 2003 01:21 GMT
#43
lets just
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
Mentos
Profile Joined August 2003
United Kingdom203 Posts
September 07 2003 02:01 GMT
#44
OMG, u know NOTHING about polish sc bw scene. So as i said BE QUIET.
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-07 02:29:40
September 07 2003 02:11 GMT
#45
drop it

- i was wrong,sorry
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
Zibi-T
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland85 Posts
September 07 2003 02:18 GMT
#46
Macia played REALLY well, definately deserved to end up that high, he was just a notch below sYs.
MCh)Kane
Profile Joined March 2003
Poland32 Posts
September 07 2003 02:27 GMT
#47
YOu all talk About something that yu dont know.
ZvZ whe blackman Lose was with GreatZyncak player who was on First WCg from Poland. And Secon Lose of Blackman WAS 1410)Macia also eR00)Macia.
Blackman didnt scoot His Rax on midlee of lt and GO 12 12 start so he lose. Than sYs(DUNE) win with MAcia(loser bracket) nad MACIA sAY... "yoU ARE BETTER you GO TO KOREA AND LEAVE the GAme" GM for macia.
NO WE WAITNIG FOR REP PACKA
If someone think macia or Zyncak is Newbie than he dont know polsih SC scene.
MACIA ON HIS way to final beat Nal_DRACO ^^ KAzio_wichura lose with sYs(DUNE) Beat So~Dunaj beat Blackman Beat GreatZyncak (he beat blackman in Winer bracket losing than with sYs) And lsoe agin t0 the sYs
THe way of Zyncak was Beat aNc_Tomson, beat erXX)Pako beat Blackman lose sYs and lose macia. ANy one WANT other players just write
MCh)Kane
Profile Joined March 2003
Poland32 Posts
September 07 2003 02:29 GMT
#48
ALL GAME bo1
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
September 07 2003 03:14 GMT
#49
On September 06 2003 17:43 Liquid`Drone wrote:
haha

art.

im not surprised, and if sys wins im very happy, I've been considering him #1 in poland for some time now^^

this came from another thread.
I disagree.
I think both blackman and draco>sys.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
September 07 2003 03:19 GMT
#50
its all a matter of opinion.

sys did well in tlt ladder
draco did well in wdt ladder
blackman did well in wcg

Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
GigeR.BanDiT
Profile Joined May 2003
Poland31 Posts
September 07 2003 03:27 GMT
#51
Draco = shit

he never !!! show his skill??? in OFFLINE tour


i am not suggesting sth

BM - Big Looser but best in Poland - no luck this year
x.Tae)BanDiT
ImaGe
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands233 Posts
September 07 2003 03:30 GMT
#52
Tomson did well in WDT
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
September 07 2003 03:30 GMT
#53
On September 07 2003 12:19 TranCe wrote:
its all a matter of opinion.

sys did well in tlt ladder
draco did well in wdt ladder
blackman did well in wcg


draco didn't even play in tlt so don't count that.
sys however played in wdt and he got owned repeatedly
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28650 Posts
September 07 2003 03:38 GMT
#54
that was a long time ago. sys improved A LOT since wdt.

I remember when I played him in tltour and I got slapped around zvp and I was thinking

"this guy is the first guy who impresses me in a long time. he's really, really good."

and well i guess he really is! :-)
few people are capable of playing as different from everyone else and still win. sys is. that's talent^^
Moderator
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-07 03:39:40
September 07 2003 03:38 GMT
#55
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
September 07 2003 03:42 GMT
#56
On September 07 2003 09:01 Klogon wrote:
you first bro.


was that to me?

I ment, I have seen some of his replays and they were very good. And I would like more=).

My replays, are disgustingly obvious and boring =(.
MCh)Kane
Profile Joined March 2003
Poland32 Posts
September 07 2003 03:44 GMT
#57
There is initiation i POland BW scen to sponsor one PLayer go to korea.
Many COuld be taken from players who hed declareted to give it. I tkink there was somtning like 4k zlotych so we have for airplane and maybe 1-2 days of cheap life in korea
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
September 07 2003 03:59 GMT
#58
sYs isn't anything special.. :/
He's good though..but not like blackman, blackman would rape him, but then again any non-korean p would so i guess it's ok
Team Liquid
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
September 07 2003 04:00 GMT
#59
btw drone sys plays pretty damn standard though, stylish, almost as annoying harass as Leg, but standard.
Team Liquid
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28650 Posts
September 07 2003 04:04 GMT
#60
well

he impressed me more than anyone else ive played in a really long time in that one game.

and now he wins wcg poland

im not surprised
Moderator
Hicksville
Profile Joined May 2003
Denmark60 Posts
September 07 2003 04:06 GMT
#61
Arch won WCG Denmark
He beat Smeagol 2-0 in semifinals and Kasper[cf] 3-0 in finals
AsHRaK
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland250 Posts
September 07 2003 04:32 GMT
#62
sYs is very strong, and he's super fast on the keybord
come play my game.
Ion)Positive
Profile Joined March 2003
Morocco1389 Posts
September 07 2003 04:40 GMT
#63
Yeah plz stop bitching about blackman losing.
rek looks at it the right way
Yes, lets physically assult a kid at school for beating someone in broodwar?
I wanted sYs to win this since last year when I first knew him.
Because everything is nothing and emptiness isnt everything. This reality is really just a fucked up dream with the flesh and the blood that you carve your soul flip it inside out its a big black hole.
Ion)Positive
Profile Joined March 2003
Morocco1389 Posts
September 07 2003 04:40 GMT
#64
pretty funny how I met him acutally
Because everything is nothing and emptiness isnt everything. This reality is really just a fucked up dream with the flesh and the blood that you carve your soul flip it inside out its a big black hole.
Liquid`RaSZi
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2766 Posts
September 07 2003 04:48 GMT
#65
Ret, dune is not a standard player, I think the strats he uses are very cool. Especially pvz on temple.
Fire and blood
raidern_br
Profile Joined November 2002
Brazil610 Posts
September 07 2003 04:52 GMT
#66
reps?
i'm just "sad" because of the koreans that are going to wcg.. last year:
Boxer, Yellow, Oddysay and Starsin(Junwi, is that right?)
this year:
HOT and 3 guys that i dont remember (hot rlz)
oh god
Gogogo
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
September 07 2003 04:58 GMT
#67
not in the 10 games i played vs him :/
Team Liquid
Strafe[iR]
Profile Joined March 2003
Netherlands266 Posts
September 07 2003 05:16 GMT
#68
yes ret but you must realise you are god!
Help me with my army. http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=wv63w278 . Thk you
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
September 07 2003 05:24 GMT
#69
lets all play nice now,remember not all opinions are the same and you will never change that [=
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
September 07 2003 05:26 GMT
#70
<3 <3 ~~
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
September 07 2003 05:41 GMT
#71
On September 07 2003 11:27 MCh)Kane wrote:
YOu all talk About something that yu dont know.
ZvZ whe blackman Lose was with GreatZyncak player who was on First WCg from Poland. And Secon Lose of Blackman WAS 1410)Macia also eR00)Macia.
Blackman didnt scoot His Rax on midlee of lt and GO 12 12 start so he lose. Than sYs(DUNE) win with MAcia(loser bracket) nad MACIA sAY... "yoU ARE BETTER you GO TO KOREA AND LEAVE the GAme" GM for macia.
NO WE WAITNIG FOR REP PACKA
If someone think macia or Zyncak is Newbie than he dont know polsih SC scene.
MACIA ON HIS way to final beat Nal_DRACO ^^ KAzio_wichura lose with sYs(DUNE) Beat So~Dunaj beat Blackman Beat GreatZyncak (he beat blackman in Winer bracket losing than with sYs) And lsoe agin t0 the sYs
THe way of Zyncak was Beat aNc_Tomson, beat erXX)Pako beat Blackman lose sYs and lose macia. ANy one WANT other players just write


haha. thank you, you just made my day hohoho
Wiget
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland139 Posts
September 07 2003 06:48 GMT
#72
blackman didnt want have intervie after lost vs Macia. btw Macia own all okay?
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic931 Posts
September 07 2003 06:55 GMT
#73
imho blackman got owned by better players... thats it
never too old for starcraft :)
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
September 07 2003 06:58 GMT
#74
what a stupid opinion.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
Leinad[pG]
Profile Joined July 2003
Germany100 Posts
September 07 2003 07:13 GMT
#75
rofl so many fanboys, is there any reason y u kiss all blackman's ass?
Nothing against him but i dont see any reason to make the players who beat him bm or bad players.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 07 2003 07:15 GMT
#76
Blackman isn't THAT good :o
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 07 2003 07:16 GMT
#77
I mean if he was boxer and that happened then I'd understand but, the thing is if he was boxer that wouldn't have happened :O
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-07 07:47:46
September 07 2003 07:42 GMT
#78
sfsaf i like rekrul and ilnp
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
GooDGaMe
Profile Joined August 2003
United States989 Posts
September 07 2003 08:25 GMT
#79
BlackMan lost, get over it people
Btw, only 1 person from Denmark goes to Korea?
gl hf ~~
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
September 07 2003 09:40 GMT
#80
blackman did a nice fluke in last year's wcg
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
September 07 2003 09:42 GMT
#81
On September 07 2003 13:04 Liquid`Drone wrote:
well

he impressed me more than anyone else ive played in a really long time in that one game.

and now he wins wcg poland

im not surprised


Hmm and here I am thinking I should win last match of the best of 3 in TLT finals :/ It was 1-1, third game went nice, and I would've won if I played like I planned to play, and scouted a bit more >_< He made such a nice comeback in that last game. So I'm a bit surprised sYs won.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Nuttie
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland302 Posts
September 07 2003 10:23 GMT
#82
Hey, he is not "DUNE" but "sYs", Dune is a name of caffe where he plays, so please stop using that "dune" nickname. It is like i could name you "pG" or "iD". : p
Wiget
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland139 Posts
September 07 2003 10:25 GMT
#83
If blackmand scouted farer so he should win ^_^
Wiget
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland139 Posts
September 07 2003 10:28 GMT
#84
btw : http://netwars.pl/wcg2003.html
z7-RaiN
Profile Joined January 2003
United States522 Posts
September 07 2003 10:37 GMT
#85
another upset, another waste of a player going to korea

nothing surprising = (
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Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
September 07 2003 10:55 GMT
#86
ofcourse you shoulda gone... right rain?
Bleww
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1080 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-07 11:44:03
September 07 2003 11:11 GMT
#87
if the players who lost are not making excuses, why are you idiots making them for them?
I am back
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
September 07 2003 11:40 GMT
#88
MACIA MASTA
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Platon[HS]
Profile Joined February 2003
Poland24 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-07 11:59:07
September 07 2003 11:57 GMT
#89
I didn't saw Blackman crying, he just didn't want to gave interview and some guy from the crew was going everywhere after him with TV Camera even when he was packing his stuff. Then some rude guys was shouting "DON'T CRY BLACKAMN HAHAHAH" , I guess Macia supporters. Btw first photos: http://www.rootshell.be/~sireq/WCG2003/ but there are some mistakes with subtitles, tommorow they fix it.
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Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
September 07 2003 12:06 GMT
#90
If you think this was a surprise ... Now the 3 last year players from Bulgaria (me , DIDI and Bykli ) are going to play for the last 3rd spot to qualify , after I and Bykli lost to Enjoy and Didi to Zelias.
I thought I was in good shape TvT , won some koreans and Arch , but Enjoy said he 5-0ed OgerDaniel , so I guess he trained much more than me T_T.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
NerO
Profile Joined February 2003
United States2071 Posts
September 07 2003 12:50 GMT
#91
where are these 2 replays where he lost? i can only find the games he won t.t
Platon[HS]
Profile Joined February 2003
Poland24 Posts
September 07 2003 13:46 GMT
#92
we have to wait for replay pack...
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Fever_tr
Profile Joined February 2003
Turkey222 Posts
September 07 2003 14:22 GMT
#93
dont flame Macio! blackman should have scouted well and stopped the bunker rush. Even boxer attacks with 12 scvs and 6 marines nowadays. Yellow doesnt cry out no rush for 5 mins...
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Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-07 14:50:32
September 07 2003 14:47 GMT
#94
I hope Macio dies & burns in hell! Heheh Well the fact remains that Blackman is the best zerg outside korea. There are hell lot of gosu p's and t's, but where are all the ZERGS? If it's such an "easy race to play", why are all the gosus p or t (outside korea) ?

[edit] So let's just face the fact that everyone is pissed because of that, not because they hate macia or anything... GOD DAMN DIE MACIA DIE!
River me timbers.
Hicksville
Profile Joined May 2003
Denmark60 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-07 14:55:27
September 07 2003 14:54 GMT
#95
On September 07 2003 17:25 [cF]GooDGaMe wrote:

Btw, only 1 person from Denmark goes to Korea?


correct
Nxla
Profile Joined July 2003
United States49 Posts
September 07 2003 14:59 GMT
#96
On September 07 2003 23:47 Muhweli wrote:
If it's such an "easy race to play", why are all the gosus p or t (outside korea) ?


How can I feel abandoned even when the world surrounds me?
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-07 15:07:00
September 07 2003 15:03 GMT
#97
On September 07 2003 23:47 Muhweli wrote:
I hope Macio dies & burns in hell! Heheh Well the fact remains that Blackman is the best zerg outside korea. There are hell lot of gosu p's and t's, but where are all the ZERGS? If it's such an "easy race to play", why are all the gosus p or t (outside korea) ?

[edit] So let's just face the fact that everyone is pissed because of that, not because they hate macia or anything... GOD DAMN DIE MACIA DIE!



just 1 week ago a zerg got #2 in TLT.
why are you always hating on zergs outside korea, along with other ppl? T_T
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Snakeyez
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada456 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-07 15:20:48
September 07 2003 15:20 GMT
#98
its too bad mondi didnt play in german wcg
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 07 2003 15:51 GMT
#99
well ok... mondi is good HOWEVER the players going to the finals weren't the best of the tournie... I mean for example I think Elky would not have lost to Anon if it REALLY had mattered to him That tournament doesn't give the list of top # players of europe and their races... and I'm not saying there are no GOSU zergs but the zergs able to compete on korean level - except for Blackman (Except for ilnp :D) Soo... Well... Hummm...
River me timbers.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
September 07 2003 15:57 GMT
#100
I don't think you're too well informed Muhweli
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
September 07 2003 15:59 GMT
#101
The few zergs that are powerfull outside of korea, are REALY powerfull

so in my mind it makes up for less numbers ^^.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-07 16:12:34
September 07 2003 16:11 GMT
#102
Sooo... The fact that Zergs aren't winning any tournaments outside korea is not because they suck but because they... uhm. Well... In addition. Who would you list WITH Blackman to be on the same level with him ([edit] or above). Bring it on Enlighten me plz.
River me timbers.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
September 07 2003 16:12 GMT
#103
why would anyone have to be at Blackmans level for you to be wrong
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z7-RaiN
Profile Joined January 2003
United States522 Posts
September 07 2003 17:12 GMT
#104
On September 07 2003 19:55 Roman wrote:
ofcourse you shoulda gone... right rain?


wcg usa was not an upset, so shut the fuck up

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Bull-Demon
Profile Joined January 2003
United States582 Posts
September 07 2003 17:15 GMT
#105
Bleww summed things up nicely. -_-
~_~
Nxla
Profile Joined July 2003
United States49 Posts
September 07 2003 17:21 GMT
#106
On September 08 2003 01:11 Muhweli wrote:
Sooo... The fact that Zergs aren't winning any tournaments outside korea is not because they suck but because they... uhm. Well...


Ummm, Zerg has only won ONE tournament in korea in the past two years.
How can I feel abandoned even when the world surrounds me?
mvnL
Profile Joined January 2003
Poland394 Posts
September 07 2003 17:56 GMT
#107
--- Nuked ---
dork
Profile Joined September 2003
Canada2207 Posts
September 07 2003 18:55 GMT
#108
who beat him?
staring at the world through the rear view
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
September 07 2003 19:30 GMT
#109
Give it up... you're all just arguing about opinions. Some are more informed than others, but they're all still just opinions.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
September 07 2003 20:53 GMT
#110
muhweli,

I consider ret very much on blackmans level.

Tomson is a more refined , less orginal version of blackman, and able to play zvz with alot more consistentcy then blackman

This one is much less objective , but I would also rank day's zvp and zvz as being on par with any non korean.

I belive some reason that zergs outside of korea have more trouble winning tournaments is because there is a smaller scope for general feasable strats that don't succumb badly to certain strats.

if you go back and read rekruls reasoning on why zerg is the hardest race to master, you'll see what I'm aiming to say, but on that same note what I've said might not match what rekrul said and if so, sorry for dragging your idea's down with mine ^^.
Mormon
Profile Joined August 2003
United States145 Posts
September 07 2003 22:27 GMT
#111
Blackman's macro is rather impressive, but in order to get himself to that "machine-like state" where he can go nuts with macro during a game, he needs to take way too many risks and rely way too much on luck to accomplish that. He's something of a one-strat-wonder, every single game he does the same exact thing against the 3 races, respectively.

He's full of huge gaping holes that I'm sure all of the hugely talented players wouldn't hesitate to exploit.

There's a reason players like Yellow, Chojja and Junwi don't take the entire map in 12 minutes, it's because doing that will most often get them killed at the skill level they're playing at.

His only major accomplishment I think was 3rd? at WCG, and he got lucky there...

I really just don't think he has the talent required to really accomplish much in Korea. His micro could almost be considered non-existant.

But all that aside, it should've been either Blackman or Tomson going to Korea. Best of 1 matches are CLEARLY not representative of the players' skills... for competitive play I think it really should always be atleast best of 7 to confirm which player is better, for atleast a quite decent amount of reliability. =(
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 08 2003 01:51 GMT
#112
Mormon, well spoken, he beat Oddysay & Others with luck, skillwise he would've been like... what? 100th? Yeah. And doing exactly same strats always, I think it's a lil' different in maps like valhalla for example and if he can execute that strat so well that he can get 3rd in wcg doing the same things every game, he must be good aight? ^^;

Still everyone's bitching of zerg being an easy and overpowered (etc) race and even if not overpowered, still easy race to play but still zerg isn't the dominating race.

I do value ret's skill and I know his good but (plz ret don't read this you'll get pissed) I don't think he will make it to top 3 wcg even if yellow and boxer aren't there

And tomson? Well his good but we won't be seeing him in korea this year either aight? So why not to start own thread for him too?

day? ok I will not comment this one.

Mormon, so what you're saying that other players than Boxer and Yellow did not manage to exploit these gapping holes last wcg? :/
River me timbers.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 08 2003 02:00 GMT
#113
And for him who said zerg has only one one league during the last couple of years... I bet there are more :D (which doesn't relate too closely to my original point)
River me timbers.
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
September 08 2003 03:09 GMT
#114
lets all play nice now,remember not all opinions are the same and you will never change that [=
Give it up... you're all just arguing about opinions. Some are more informed than others, but they're all still just opinions.


ding dang dong my dad is faster then your dad
ding da ding ding dong
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
PunkSkeleton
Profile Joined January 2003
Poland226 Posts
September 08 2003 03:51 GMT
#115
BlackMan lost because his scouting sux. He's improved but... Macia really impressed me playing vs Zyneck and I'm sure that he could have beaten BlackMan without cheese. But why shouldn't he use BM scouting as his advance? BlackMan didn't even found Macia when he was scouting 12 (Macia was here) so BM just sucked. He sucked vs Zyneck too (didn't scout him and Zyneck made a FE). And please don't tell me you faggots that Zyneck and Macia (sYs too - Rekrul you suck)are newbies because they're playing this game longer than Tomson.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 08 2003 03:58 GMT
#116
On September 08 2003 10:51 Muhweli wrote:
Mormon, well spoken, he beat Oddysay & Others with luck, skillwise he would've been like... what? 100th? Yeah. And doing exactly same strats always, I think it's a lil' different in maps like valhalla for example and if he can execute that strat so well that he can get 3rd in wcg doing the same things every game, he must be good aight? ^^;

Still everyone's bitching of zerg being an easy and overpowered (etc) race and even if not overpowered, still easy race to play but still zerg isn't the dominating race.

I do value ret's skill and I know his good but (plz ret don't read this you'll get pissed) I don't think he will make it to top 3 wcg even if yellow and boxer aren't there

And tomson? Well his good but we won't be seeing him in korea this year either aight? So why not to start own thread for him too?

day? ok I will not comment this one.

Mormon, so what you're saying that other players than Boxer and Yellow did not manage to exploit these gapping holes last wcg? :/

He got really lucky vs oddysay- and his strat only works once then all progamers will exploit his weaknesses like no tomorrow :{
Blackmans zerg micro is worse than mine. I DONT PLAY ZERG ;{
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
September 08 2003 04:05 GMT
#117
i think you should watch some of blackmans games against Aqaurius and stop talking shit,then watch some of his wcg poland games then restart talking shit.

in conclusion,rekrul loves the cock
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
Nxla
Profile Joined July 2003
United States49 Posts
September 08 2003 04:19 GMT
#118
On September 08 2003 11:00 Muhweli wrote:
And for him who said zerg has only one one league during the last couple of years... I bet there are more :D (which doesn't relate too closely to my original point)


God I hope so, but the only one I can remember recently was the tourney Yellow won a year or two ago.
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ErOs_Probe
Profile Joined December 2002
Netherlands680 Posts
September 08 2003 04:29 GMT
#119
I think many people believe Blackman[pG] is far above other europians zergs. He is not, actually i think Mondragon's zvp > Blackman's zvp. And ret's zvt aint much worse than blackman's. Though this could just be a newbie comment from me.

bye.
k3 fan.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
September 08 2003 04:38 GMT
#120
On September 08 2003 13:05 TranCe wrote:


in conclusion,rekrul loves the cock
lmfao
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
Nevera
Profile Joined May 2003
Finland677 Posts
September 08 2003 05:03 GMT
#121
More good terrans than zergs outside korea? How was the p/t/z distribution in the top 32 tlt? Abudance of P is obvious of course but other than that...
Moo i say
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 08 2003 05:16 GMT
#122
Abudance of P means...?

Ooookay. FrozenArbiter, you have watched the games vs Aquarius and you honestly say that if it was you controlling, you could do at least as good if macro would do itself?

And about that bad scouting thing... I think I will not comment on that. I bet that cheese could've killed many of the pro-zergs of korea as well...

And how many zerg players have ever been sponsored to go to korea? 0 (ilnp doesn't count :D)
River me timbers.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 08 2003 05:33 GMT
#123
On September 08 2003 14:16 Muhweli wrote:
Abudance of P means...?

Ooookay. FrozenArbiter, you have watched the games vs Aquarius and you honestly say that if it was you controlling, you could do at least as good if macro would do itself?

And about that bad scouting thing... I think I will not comment on that. I bet that cheese could've killed many of the pro-zergs of korea as well...

And how many zerg players have ever been sponsored to go to korea? 0 (ilnp doesn't count :D)

Haha yeah if all I had to do was micro and my units would build by themself I'd do much better than he does usually ;{ He has 300 apm and can't micro? What does that tell you? And the him vs aquarius games were sort of nice, but terran really should have won ;{
And no I dont think that cheese would have killed very many (if anyone;{) korean pro zergs in a serious offline tournament :{
Blackman is just really over rated ;{
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-08 06:25:18
September 08 2003 06:00 GMT
#124
ok I'll make it short and quick, then you may stop argueing, cause I am right.

Blackman is incredibly good, in your narrow way of judging skill you probably think he is superhuman because it all looks impossible

all 'most of you' see is the things he does right (amazing mid- and lategame zvp/zvt), what you can't (or don't want to) see is his incompleteness as a player. Zerg vs Zerg and any matchups early game as best (and maybe only) examples. These are not just some details it's 1 third of the whole fucking game.

I really just don't think he has the talent required to really accomplish much in Korea. His micro could almost be considered non-existant.

I wouldn't want to call it talent, but he has by far the skills to atleast do decent and win a fair amount of his games there. So have tons of other foreigners, btw.
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Wiget
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland139 Posts
September 08 2003 06:20 GMT
#125
One mistake of blackman. His drone went to 12 position and he didnt go to see Command Center... That is why he lost :/
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
September 08 2003 06:53 GMT
#126
heh there are 63 games of blackman vs aquarius frozen --;;
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Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
September 08 2003 07:07 GMT
#127
What i really hate is ppl talking of him, what doesnt know him, what have no idea how he is playing atm, and who he played and won last weeks.
@FrozenArbiter If you really think Blackman is overrated k.m.a. :r.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 08 2003 07:11 GMT
#128
On September 08 2003 15:53 ret wrote:
heh there are 63 games of blackman vs aquarius frozen --;;

oh I take it back
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-08 07:16:14
September 08 2003 07:13 GMT
#129
On September 08 2003 16:07 Ilvy wrote:
What i really hate is ppl talking of him, what doesnt know him, what have no idea how he is playing atm, and who he played and won last weeks.
@FrozenArbiter If you really think Blackman is overrated k.m.a. :r.

What does K.M.A mean? And do you know how many people think of blackman as a god? Saying he is the most talented player ever? Saying that if he practiced as much as korean progamers he'd be a lot better than them? I think in the eyes of most people he is very overrated :{
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ErOs_Probe
Profile Joined December 2002
Netherlands680 Posts
September 08 2003 07:13 GMT
#130
BLACKMAN SUX YO!
k3 fan.
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
September 08 2003 07:35 GMT
#131
MACIA>>>>>BM I know this !!
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
Inspire
Profile Joined March 2003
132 Posts
September 08 2003 07:42 GMT
#132
Hehe I can't stop laughing. Arbiter your opinion is sick for me. Go and play people who played BlackMan on WCG 2002 and win. I know that Oddysay isn't playing right now but why you couldn't take the 3rd place on WCG 2002 ?? Now are maybe better players than BM and that's why he didn't manage to earn a spot on WCG.
Noone is a god and everyone is to defeat even BoxeR and even if he plays like a god he is still to be defeated. I got sick about people opinions about BM and other Polish players. Please stop talking about it and see how Polish SC stand.
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
September 08 2003 07:42 GMT
#133
I'm just curious why there's such a stink over proxy bbs? =( If it works, then good for you. I like to think of it as a GOOD thing to catch your opponent off guard and unprepared... if someone calls that cheese, then oh well =(
Inspire
Profile Joined March 2003
132 Posts
September 08 2003 07:44 GMT
#134
Yarertz another intelligent Polish player like many.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 08 2003 07:51 GMT
#135
Louder, that's the whole point of cheese and that is why it's called cheese.

And I wouldn't say Blackman's micro is non-existant... I also wouldn't call FrozenArbiter's micro better than his :D

STILL Blackman should've done it because he is probably by far the best player in Poland so fu.
River me timbers.
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
September 08 2003 07:55 GMT
#136
KMA = kiss my ass ok?
ErOs_Probe
Profile Joined December 2002
Netherlands680 Posts
September 08 2003 08:07 GMT
#137
hOhO i always knew blackman sucked!
k3 fan.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 08 2003 08:13 GMT
#138
On September 08 2003 16:42 Inspire wrote:
Hehe I can't stop laughing. Arbiter your opinion is sick for me. Go and play people who played BlackMan on WCG 2002 and win. I know that Oddysay isn't playing right now but why you couldn't take the 3rd place on WCG 2002 ?? Now are maybe better players than BM and that's why he didn't manage to earn a spot on WCG.
Noone is a god and everyone is to defeat even BoxeR and even if he plays like a god he is still to be defeated. I got sick about people opinions about BM and other Polish players. Please stop talking about it and see how Polish SC stand.

POLISH PATRIOTISM GOGO!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-08 08:21:46
September 08 2003 08:20 GMT
#139
On September 08 2003 16:42 Inspire wrote:
Hehe I can't stop laughing. Arbiter your opinion is sick for me. Go and play people who played BlackMan on WCG 2002 and win. I know that Oddysay isn't playing right now but why you couldn't take the 3rd place on WCG 2002 ?? Now are maybe better players than BM and that's why he didn't manage to earn a spot on WCG.
Noone is a god and everyone is to defeat even BoxeR and even if he plays like a god he is still to be defeated. I got sick about people opinions about BM and other Polish players. Please stop talking about it and see how Polish SC stand.
\
Saying blackman is not god and saying I'm better than him isn't the same thing btw;{ But thanks for seeing me as a demi god :O Obviously you didn't understand half of my post :/
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Wiget
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland139 Posts
September 08 2003 09:18 GMT
#140
Probe who is suck ?
ErOs_Probe
Profile Joined December 2002
Netherlands680 Posts
September 08 2003 09:20 GMT
#141
blackman~~
k3 fan.
Wiget
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland139 Posts
September 08 2003 09:22 GMT
#142
blackman lost WCG but it isn't mean that he is lame ;o He is still best polish player and WCG was bo1 (lucky sometimes) Probe please don't tell it. Everyone good players knows that Blackman is really good. U'll see the reps and u change opinion ^^
ErOs_Probe
Profile Joined December 2002
Netherlands680 Posts
September 08 2003 09:27 GMT
#143
he sucks and he is a lame user, we all know it. he cheesse all games and bad manners to everyone.


ROFL
k3 fan.
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
September 08 2003 09:36 GMT
#144
wiget
he's joking.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
NewbieMcNasty
Profile Joined December 2002
United States328 Posts
September 08 2003 09:58 GMT
#145
Blackman wasn't active on TLT, didn't play WGT, and was rarely seen on west in the past few months. Whether he was good at one time or not is irrelevant, if you slack off you will lose.
yep
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
September 08 2003 12:00 GMT
#146
Blackman never played WGT, just a few games on WDT, but this doesnt mean he never plays and didnt train. He even was on really often with pG-account playing korean friends. He is just not the one what is jumping arround on different pages showing off "hey i played yesterday Nada and won him 2-1".
And this two guys what took his chance for the koreaspot by kicking him out of tournament with cheesegames, deserve disregard. Just a final Blackman vs sYs would have shown who the best gamer in poland is.
Wiget
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland139 Posts
September 08 2003 12:03 GMT
#147
Ok it's defenitly end. Blackman'll have chance in next year. But i saw him on WCG and i thought that he cant lose
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 08 2003 12:08 GMT
#148
On September 08 2003 12:51 PunkSkeleton wrote:
BlackMan lost because his scouting sux. He's improved but... Macia really impressed me playing vs Zyneck and I'm sure that he could have beaten BlackMan without cheese. But why shouldn't he use BM scouting as his advance? BlackMan didn't even found Macia when he was scouting 12 (Macia was here) so BM just sucked. He sucked vs Zyneck too (didn't scout him and Zyneck made a FE). And please don't tell me you faggots that Zyneck and Macia (sYs too - Rekrul you suck)are newbies because they're playing this game longer than Tomson.


I suck because I said sYs is "new school?" Of course he is, it doesn't matter how long he's played. He is new school popularity wise (okay maybe not in poland!), I guess you weren't smart enough to pick that up.

BTW I've said for a long time that sYs is very good
why so 진지해?
NewbieMcNasty
Profile Joined December 2002
United States328 Posts
September 08 2003 12:13 GMT
#149
On September 08 2003 21:00 Ilvy wrote:
Blackman never played WGT, just a few games on WDT, but this doesnt mean he never plays and didnt train. He even was on really often with pG-account playing korean friends. He is just not the one what is jumping arround on different pages showing off "hey i played yesterday Nada and won him 2-1".
And this two guys what took his chance for the koreaspot by kicking him out of tournament with cheesegames, deserve disregard. Just a final Blackman vs sYs would have shown who the best gamer in poland is.


The BW community in general has no way of knowing or verifying this though, so I don't see how people can justify their opinion of blackman.

yep
Wiget
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland139 Posts
September 08 2003 13:32 GMT
#150
ok End of the topic^^
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
September 08 2003 13:57 GMT
#151
my opinion of him is from a replay database (of blackman) that is nearly 100 now. His ZvZ at times is very good, E.G BlackMan v tomson wdtour. But naz summed it up, 'he's incomplete'.

His control zvp and zvt is a spitting image of )is(city, and his macro is better , imo. So if he was to learn, become suffiecent in zvz I think he would be feared on all 3 fronts.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
September 08 2003 14:04 GMT
#152
On September 08 2003 21:08 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2003 12:51 PunkSkeleton wrote:
BlackMan lost because his scouting sux. He's improved but... Macia really impressed me playing vs Zyneck and I'm sure that he could have beaten BlackMan without cheese. But why shouldn't he use BM scouting as his advance? BlackMan didn't even found Macia when he was scouting 12 (Macia was here) so BM just sucked. He sucked vs Zyneck too (didn't scout him and Zyneck made a FE). And please don't tell me you faggots that Zyneck and Macia (sYs too - Rekrul you suck)are newbies because they're playing this game longer than Tomson.


I suck because I said sYs is "new school?" Of course he is, it doesn't matter how long he's played. He is new school popularity wise (okay maybe not in poland!), I guess you weren't smart enough to pick that up.

BTW I've said for a long time that sYs is very good


Rekrul I consider this a flame for no reason?

"And please don't tell me you faggots"
"Rekrul you suck"....
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 08 2003 14:13 GMT
#153
AttackZerg, what do you mean by spitting image? :/
River me timbers.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
September 08 2003 14:16 GMT
#154
You guys are all jumping on FrozenArbiter because of his opinion. He's just saying blackman is overrated, and I agree with him. His play looks very impressive because everything is moving and shit, but most Koreans will just exploit his weaknesses and beat him that way. And Koreans are unrivaled in zvz, so he'll probably never win over a Korean z in some important tourney in Korea.

He's just all macro/non-micro (comprehensively).
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
ErOs_Probe
Profile Joined December 2002
Netherlands680 Posts
September 08 2003 14:43 GMT
#155
i think ret beat blackman zvz
k3 fan.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 08 2003 15:57 GMT
#156
eros_probe, you're probably right.

Sooo... In conclusion there are a lot of gosugosugosu zergs outside korea but none of them can compete against korean zergs? Anyone wanna tell why? Would this mean korean zergs are perhaps... better? From this I get to my original point of non-existant zerg supergosus outside korea 8D
River me timbers.
(DBE)Kryan
Profile Joined August 2003
Poland9 Posts
September 08 2003 17:42 GMT
#157
Let's make it clear. Some ppl said that there were in Poland better players than Blackman like Macia who beat him and Blackman isn't worth going to Korea... Then remember that Macia himself said that he wouldn't win with BlackMan in normal game and that's why he chosen this win or loose strat. Second that he had some luck when BM turned back his drone before seeing Macia's CC on 12.

That's just all beauty of BO1 torunament. EOT
Zorglub
Profile Joined October 2002
Denmark313 Posts
September 08 2003 19:03 GMT
#158
all your comments about Blackman beeing all macro is shit, you dont survive the first 10 minutes if you go all macro and no micro.
The more you expand the more you need to micro your troops, because until the expansion is running you will have less troops than your enemy.
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
September 08 2003 19:14 GMT
#159
On September 09 2003 04:03 Zorglub wrote:
all your comments about Blackman beeing all macro is shit, you dont survive the first 10 minutes if you go all macro and no micro.
The more you expand the more you need to micro your troops, because until the expansion is running you will have less troops than your enemy.


i think u got macro and micro mixed up.
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
Zorglub
Profile Joined October 2002
Denmark313 Posts
September 08 2003 22:04 GMT
#160
uhhhm no I think you do....
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
September 08 2003 22:11 GMT
#161
But i love macia ;p
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 08 2003 22:14 GMT
#162
On September 08 2003 21:00 Ilvy wrote:
Blackman never played WGT, just a few games on WDT, but this doesnt mean he never plays and didnt train. He even was on really often with pG-account playing korean friends. He is just not the one what is jumping arround on different pages showing off "hey i played yesterday Nada and won him 2-1".
And this two guys what took his chance for the koreaspot by kicking him out of tournament with cheesegames, deserve disregard. Just a final Blackman vs sYs would have shown who the best gamer in poland is.


uh
no

it's blackman's fault he died to cheese. In a best of 1 he should be a little bit more careful... It doesn't take much effort to actually drone scout. cheese in tvz is quite common, no?

and there are other great players in poland than blackman and sys. who the hell are you to say other players shouldn't have had a chance to prove what they could do.
Proct
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States69 Posts
September 09 2003 00:16 GMT
#163
Veg is going to cry when he gets raped at WCG Canada.
Never beleive anyone in the bnet.. +The Stove+
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
September 09 2003 00:19 GMT
#164
On September 09 2003 04:03 Zorglub wrote:
all your comments about Blackman beeing all macro is shit, you dont survive the first 10 minutes if you go all macro and no micro.
The more you expand the more you need to micro your troops, because until the expansion is running you will have less troops than your enemy.


Lurker drops don't require micro.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13005 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-09 00:40:23
September 09 2003 00:39 GMT
#165
On September 09 2003 09:19 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2003 04:03 Zorglub wrote:
all your comments about Blackman beeing all macro is shit, you dont survive the first 10 minutes if you go all macro and no micro.
The more you expand the more you need to micro your troops, because until the expansion is running you will have less troops than your enemy.




Lurker drops don't require micro.


haha so true! Does blackman ever no Lurk drop?!
:7
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13005 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-09 00:41:02
September 09 2003 00:39 GMT
#166
& Mullets have no place in society.
:7
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 09 2003 01:11 GMT
#167
ky[Z], you pretty much mixed the two up ^^,
River me timbers.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 09 2003 01:13 GMT
#168
travis, he did drone scout, no? But he missed or something?
River me timbers.
gL.AbanD
Profile Joined August 2003
Bulgaria100 Posts
September 09 2003 01:13 GMT
#169
Good Luck sYs ~
B e a u t i f u l M i n d
AsHRaK
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland250 Posts
September 09 2003 02:37 GMT
#170
Here you can d/l the reppack from Poland WCG finals including all blackman games.

http://www.netwars.pl/wcg2003rp1.zip

hf
come play my game.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 09 2003 02:43 GMT
#171
On September 09 2003 04:03 Zorglub wrote:
all your comments about Blackman beeing all macro is shit, you dont survive the first 10 minutes if you go all macro and no micro.
The more you expand the more you need to micro your troops, because until the expansion is running you will have less troops than your enemy.

Which is why he didn't survive the first 10 minutes vs sonjjang in pg tournament k?-,.-
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ErOs_Probe
Profile Joined December 2002
Netherlands680 Posts
September 09 2003 05:15 GMT
#172
LOLZ i always said hovz >> blackman!
k3 fan.
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-09 14:26:58
September 09 2003 14:25 GMT
#173
I'll say this: I've seen the 2 games BM played vs Aquarius that are in the yaoyuan.com replay pack. I don't see any other non-korean zerg player playing on such an insane multitasking / macro level. The problem BlackMaN has, IMHO, that his decision of neglecting the local (both Polish and European) scene and playing only vs. Koreans has left him very vulnerable to numerous cheap tricks. Had he eg. played 200-300 games on WGTour, he probably wouldn't be 8-8-rax-rushed on WCG, because he would have encountered that strategy during those games. Same with the game with Zyneck - it's because people who want to win and get points (as on WGTour), and know that they are weaker skillwise (such as most people would feel when playing BlackMaN on WGTour) resort to using win-or-loose strategies such as the 8-8-rax or 5 pool and if not, they rather try to win in early-game, because they know they'll be crushed later on (Macia himself admitted that he 8-8-raxed only because he didn't see a chance to defeat BM in late-game). Apparently, no korean pro-gamer, in a friendly game, will resort to such tactics - he probably deems them 'cheap' and uses them only if he doesn't really want to play his opponent - which is probably not the case with BM. BlackMaN is a very intelligent person, so undoubtedly he will realize his mistakes and take them into account when planning his training, if he decides to continue playing BW - and one loss in one tournament doesn't mean he sucks...
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
AsHRaK
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland250 Posts
September 09 2003 14:31 GMT
#174
agreed.
come play my game.
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
September 11 2003 00:04 GMT
#175
On September 08 2003 22:57 AttackZerg wrote:
my opinion of him is from a replay database (of blackman) that is nearly 100 now. .


100 reps of blackman ? can we get in touch on msn or mail ?
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 11 2003 01:06 GMT
#176
can the blackman dickriding plz stop? I agree with ppl that say he is overrated. God forbid Josez comes in top 3 of WCG this year, I bet we'd here that he programed some AI and has better macro than all the non-korean Terrans.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Zorglub
Profile Joined October 2002
Denmark313 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-11 02:43:13
September 11 2003 02:42 GMT
#177
maybe he is overrated but his replays are fun to watch because no one else mass expands like him, if I had 50 zerg replays and only 1 with BM in it I could find his game. He has a unique style.

I couldnt find one with yellow, chojja or others (without bwchart for the apms), thats why I like his replays and apparently a lot others do too.
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
September 11 2003 02:53 GMT
#178
Nice said PWL
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-11 06:04:32
September 11 2003 06:04 GMT
#179
On September 11 2003 11:42 Zorglub wrote:
maybe he is overrated but his replays are fun to watch because no one else mass expands like him, if I had 50 zerg replays and only 1 with BM in it I could find his game. He has a unique style.

I couldnt find one with yellow, chojja or others (without bwchart for the apms), thats why I like his replays and apparently a lot others do too.

Yea it's easy to find games blackman played, just look for the lurker drops and masses of hydra/lurkers dying -,.,-
(JK)
I know he isn't that bad but he IS overrated
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
September 11 2003 06:16 GMT
#180
Blabla Frozen, you have no idea what you are talking about
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
September 11 2003 06:22 GMT
#181
Boxer illustrated, very well I might add, that the key to beating Blackman is to harass, and use misdirection. I.e., his keeping m&m alive so long in Blackman's base, using vessel trick, keeping dropships flying around, etc. He didn't try to engage him in a macro war of any kind.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 11 2003 07:04 GMT
#182
stfu, boxer played one game vs him. I am quite sure he could've beaten anyone by doing his almighty foreverknown drops...
River me timbers.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
September 11 2003 08:08 GMT
#183
On September 11 2003 15:16 Ilvy wrote:
Blabla Frozen, you have no idea what you are talking about


He does.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
September 11 2003 08:13 GMT
#184
no he doesnt t,T
Team Liquid
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
September 11 2003 08:19 GMT
#185
i dont think blackman is really overated he is f&%/ing good
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10469 Posts
September 11 2003 08:57 GMT
#186
i think blackman is one of the best multi-taskers ever O_o
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
September 11 2003 09:06 GMT
#187
blackman owns you, end of story
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
September 11 2003 09:09 GMT
#188
holy smoke !

leave the poor Blackman dude alone. The fact is that he lost, period ! There will be another chance for him.

Nazgul himself already said he's hell of good, so do you still need to keep arguing with what some newbie says ?

Gosh cut it off !!!
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
September 11 2003 09:12 GMT
#189
do u think it will be a wcg 2004 for broodwar? (i hope so)
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Nuttie
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland302 Posts
September 11 2003 10:06 GMT
#190
On September 08 2003 15:53 ret wrote:
heh there are 63 games of blackman vs aquarius frozen --;;


Are you kidding or just trying to anoy us? I know that those reps are wanted by many people not for learning strats but just to watch Aquarius and Blackman's play. If there is any possibility of posting them anywhere please do that (and of course post a link ; ]] )
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
September 11 2003 10:06 GMT
#191
On September 11 2003 18:12 St3MoR wrote:
do u think it will be a wcg 2004 for broodwar? (i hope so)


Im pretty sure there will be. Dont worry about this. :-)
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
September 11 2003 12:05 GMT
#192
I cant post the reps because it would piss blackman and aquarius off...but I like pissing ppl off so who knows in the future!
Team Liquid
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 11 2003 12:12 GMT
#193
ret you'll piss more people off by not posting them so don't!
why so 진지해?
Strafe[iR]
Profile Joined March 2003
Netherlands266 Posts
September 11 2003 12:12 GMT
#194
Its not likely that there will be brood war wcg 2004
Help me with my army. http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=wv63w278 . Thk you
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 11 2003 12:24 GMT
#195
Why not? -, .-
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 11 2003 12:25 GMT
#196
On September 11 2003 21:12 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
ret you'll piss more people off by not posting them so don't!

I suggest he wait 2 months, getting the masses pissed, then he posts them, getting blackman and aquarius pissed - that way he'd hit two birds with one stone!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 11 2003 12:46 GMT
#197
ret, piss them off on me!
River me timbers.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
September 11 2003 13:09 GMT
#198
Funny debate.

BlackMaN is still class.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 11 2003 13:18 GMT
#199
It's very very likely that BW will be in WCG 04 according to the USA organizers. But what do they know!?
why so 진지해?
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
September 11 2003 13:22 GMT
#200
Probably not in WCG Holland oO;
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
bbel
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland49 Posts
September 11 2003 14:36 GMT
#201
bm vs. nazgul sm bo9 ? :D
go go go go
Nuttie
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland302 Posts
September 11 2003 14:50 GMT
#202
ret: too bad : [ maybe you will tell me who can have only some of them? I only wont to see a good game not to post them at any bw site. : P
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10469 Posts
September 11 2003 15:14 GMT
#203
Blackman is selfish for not letting people watch his replays O_o

I think he doesn't want us to enjoy them ._.V
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 11 2003 15:37 GMT
#204
I think I wanna have buttsex with a frog.

Take Blackman to liquibitions again, you can allow him to use smurf so we don't know if it is him.
River me timbers.
CuVieRy
Profile Joined March 2003
Canada138 Posts
September 11 2003 17:15 GMT
#205
lol? use smurf in liquibition so we dont know its him? :D kaka
Dont Die ... Too fast
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10469 Posts
September 11 2003 17:17 GMT
#206
rematch of elky v blackman =]
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10469 Posts
September 11 2003 17:19 GMT
#207
better yet,

maybe blackman would want to play those polish kids in a rematch just to prove himself
keoke
Profile Joined September 2003
Poland11 Posts
September 11 2003 18:16 GMT
#208
There is archive of Blackman rep's in polish server. The only problem is how old are reps and what is the link
anyone have time to lern me zvz ?
Nuttie
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland302 Posts
September 12 2003 09:04 GMT
#209
ret?
GundamVX
Profile Joined June 2003
United States1025 Posts
September 12 2003 09:47 GMT
#210
I don't understand the reason for all this strife -_-;

Blackman's not going to Korea, so nobody will be able to 'prove' or 'disprove' how good he is, or whether he could beat such-and-such player.

Why don't we just congratulate Sys and Macia and wait to see how they do in WCG2003?

Just my $0.01 -_-;;
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 12 2003 09:50 GMT
#211
GundamVX, Macia isn't going to korea is he? ^^; Only one slot for poland
River me timbers.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
September 12 2003 09:54 GMT
#212
Ye macia isn't going ^_^
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
ToKoreaWithLuck
Profile Joined July 2003
Norway227 Posts
September 13 2003 08:02 GMT
#213
On September 07 2003 01:27 TranCe wrote:
i think the guy who beat out blackman should be punched in the face --

[image loading]

go ahead
TKWL
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
September 13 2003 08:06 GMT
#214
he dont look tough ^^
Team Liquid
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
September 13 2003 08:08 GMT
#215
hahahahah
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
ToKoreaWithLuck
Profile Joined July 2003
Norway227 Posts
September 13 2003 08:09 GMT
#216
ye lets take him out
TKWL
Tomhas
Profile Joined June 2003
Poland70 Posts
September 13 2003 08:16 GMT
#217
On September 12 2003 02:19 BlackJack wrote:
better yet,

maybe blackman would want to play those polish kids in a rematch just to prove himself

theres nothing to prove hes one of the best zerg players in the world and the best polish player ... and i think the best european player but WCG is a tournament and bo1 is sick but it happens he should knew there is no other way of beating him that rush / mass at beggining so he is the real noob of WCG poland 2003;/ but it suxxx he would have won this year:/
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 13 2003 08:18 GMT
#218
is that really blackman : O
River me timbers.
ToKoreaWithLuck
Profile Joined July 2003
Norway227 Posts
September 13 2003 08:29 GMT
#219
No thats macia man....
TKWL
l2uShMarine
Profile Joined December 2002
United States168 Posts
September 13 2003 09:00 GMT
#220
blackman is like the only polish person who doesnt hack,he didnt stand a chance in a online tournament if u know where im getting at
GG Gl --v + die
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
September 13 2003 09:01 GMT
#221
On September 13 2003 18:00 l2uShMarine wrote:
blackman is like the only polish person who doesnt hack,he didnt stand a chance in a online tournament if u know where im getting at


Go eat more hamburgers, that way at least you'll keep your mouth shut.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 13 2003 10:15 GMT
#222
Heheh, I thought so. Just read the post quoted there wrong :DD
River me timbers.
l2uShMarine
Profile Joined December 2002
United States168 Posts
September 13 2003 10:37 GMT
#223
judging people by stereo types just proves how smart you really are,sure,usa has alot of mcdonalds and fast food,you act like any of your countries dont have any fast food burger resteraunts,and if u say u dont then u are just ignorant.

and just because people live in usa,doesnt mean they are fat beer bellied red necks , fucking moron
GG Gl --v + die
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
September 13 2003 10:40 GMT
#224
On September 13 2003 19:37 l2uShMarine wrote:
judging people by stereo types just proves how smart you really are,sure,usa has alot of mcdonalds and fast food,you act like any of your countries dont have any fast food burger resteraunts,and if u say u dont then u are just ignorant.

and just because people live in usa,doesnt mean they are fat beer bellied red necks , fucking moron


USA is the fattest country in the world.
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
September 13 2003 11:05 GMT
#225
On September 13 2003 19:37 l2uShMarine wrote:
judging people by stereo types just proves how smart you really are,sure,usa has alot of mcdonalds and fast food,you act like any of your countries dont have any fast food burger resteraunts,and if u say u dont then u are just ignorant.

and just because people live in usa,doesnt mean they are fat beer bellied red necks , fucking moron


AHAHAHAHAH heheh

eat more hamburgers

All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
GosuAce
Profile Joined April 2003
Poland30 Posts
September 14 2003 04:35 GMT
#226
"judging people by stereo types just proves how smart you really are"

Saying that all Polish gamers hack ,after playing a few of them just proves how smart you really are. Not to mention that probably they don't hack , you just suck kaka.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
September 14 2003 05:05 GMT
#227
On September 14 2003 13:35 GosuAce wrote:
"judging people by stereo types just proves how smart you really are"

Saying that all Polish gamers hack ,after playing a few of them just proves how smart you really are. Not to mention that probably they don't hack , you just suck kaka.


Hehe, Rushmarine it would be wise not to reply again -.,-
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Nuttie
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland302 Posts
September 14 2003 05:26 GMT
#228
ret!
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10469 Posts
September 14 2003 05:47 GMT
#229
sweden is the fattest country
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
September 14 2003 07:53 GMT
#230
we still have homer simpson
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
Nuttie
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland302 Posts
September 14 2003 08:19 GMT
#231
ya sure but i'm looking for ret! ret!
Krzych
Profile Joined July 2003
Poland693 Posts
September 14 2003 08:27 GMT
#232
On September 14 2003 16:53 Dick wrote:
we still have homer simpson



Homer Simpson was a woman!




Seksmisja rulez
wlanedbz
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States158 Posts
September 14 2003 09:49 GMT
#233
coffee in da pants
You know whats funny........dead people
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
September 14 2003 09:52 GMT
#234
On September 14 2003 14:47 BlackJack wrote:
sweden is the fattest country


lol
Quiksilver
Profile Joined December 2002
United States424 Posts
September 14 2003 10:39 GMT
#235
On September 13 2003 18:01 Twisted wrote:
Go eat more hamburgers, that way at least you'll keep your mouth shut.


its kind of funny to me how there are mcdonalds all over europe =/
Live.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 14 2003 10:51 GMT
#236
I'm closing this now.
why so 진지해?
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