On February 14 2026 01:13 iFU.spx wrote: so much hate and dislikes. Meanwhile we have the first brave foreigner terran who decided to dedicate his time and challenge koreans in their own environment. This is super exciting.
I dont just get why he goes for the koreans when he couldnt "dominate" the foreigner scene. I guess the foreigner scene wasnt worth the time nor enough of a challenge
On February 14 2026 01:13 iFU.spx wrote: so much hate and dislikes. Meanwhile we have the first brave foreigner terran who decided to dedicate his time and challenge koreans in their own environment. This is super exciting.
I dont just get why he goes for the koreans when he couldnt "dominate" the foreigner scene. I guess the foreigner scene wasnt worth the time nor enough of a challenge
On February 14 2026 01:13 iFU.spx wrote: so much hate and dislikes. Meanwhile we have the first brave foreigner terran who decided to dedicate his time and challenge koreans in their own environment. This is super exciting.
I dont just get why he goes for the koreans when he couldnt "dominate" the foreigner scene. I guess the foreigner scene wasnt worth the time nor enough of a challenge
Imagine you occasionally playing football matches with your mates in neighborhood. There are about 100 people in your area. And you know that there is another neighborhood 100 miles away with 10000 people which is very competitive. And you have opportunity to move there and hang with them and learn something new. Would you go or stay in your neighborhood until you have 100% ball control ?
On February 14 2026 01:13 iFU.spx wrote: so much hate and dislikes. Meanwhile we have the first brave foreigner terran who decided to dedicate his time and challenge koreans in their own environment. This is super exciting.
Didnt Nyoken already do this? And Idra? Even Artosis did it. Gypsy is not the first. But it is a cool initiative for sure.
Korea is definutely the environment within which one can most likely grow the most. But I do think he will need a teacher. And he will need to learn more korean.
On February 14 2026 01:13 iFU.spx wrote: so much hate and dislikes. Meanwhile we have the first brave foreigner terran who decided to dedicate his time and challenge koreans in their own environment. This is super exciting.
Didnt Nyoken already do this? And Idra? Even Artosis did it. Gypsy is not the first. But it is a cool initiative for sure.
Korea is definutely the environment within which one can most likely grow the most. But I do think he will need a teacher. And he will need to learn more korean.
Idra is close one, but it was in times of different starcraft, so It doesn't count. Totally different game now. Nyoken and Artosis are commentators and retired from real competitive gaming long time ago.
On February 14 2026 01:13 iFU.spx wrote: so much hate and dislikes. Meanwhile we have the first brave foreigner terran who decided to dedicate his time and challenge koreans in their own environment. This is super exciting.
I dont just get why he goes for the koreans when he couldnt "dominate" the foreigner scene. I guess the foreigner scene wasnt worth the time nor enough of a challenge
Imagine you occasionally playing football matches with your mates in neighborhood. There are about 100 people in your area. And you know that there is another neighborhood 100 miles away with 10000 people which is very competitive. And you have opportunity to move there and hang with them and learn something new. Would you go or stay in your neighborhood until you have 100% ball control ?
Thats assuming youve already kinda outgrown your current playfield. Is that the case? His latest result was RO16 last place in BSL. Kinda hard to find more results since his liquipedia doesnt show much except for 1-2 tournaments a year.
Just switching into a more competitive pool of player might just result in drowning
On February 14 2026 01:13 iFU.spx wrote: so much hate and dislikes. Meanwhile we have the first brave foreigner terran who decided to dedicate his time and challenge koreans in their own environment. This is super exciting.
I dont just get why he goes for the koreans when he couldnt "dominate" the foreigner scene. I guess the foreigner scene wasnt worth the time nor enough of a challenge
Imagine you occasionally playing football matches with your mates in neighborhood. There are about 100 people in your area. And you know that there is another neighborhood 100 miles away with 10000 people which is very competitive. And you have opportunity to move there and hang with them and learn something new. Would you go or stay in your neighborhood until you have 100% ball control ?
Thats assuming youve already kinda outgrown your current playfield. Is that the case? His latest result was RO16 last place in BSL. Kinda hard to find more results since his liquipedia doesnt show much except for 1-2 tournaments a year.
Just switching into a more competitive pool of player might just result in drowning
From what you’re saying, I can tell that you don’t know what you’re talking about or just not thought hard on the subject. No offense.
Gypsy isn't stupid. It's more of a personal challenge. I am 100% certain he has no delusions with regards to competing consistently well against even the 3rd tier of Korean players (Mihu's level even tho not Kor).
On February 14 2026 01:13 iFU.spx wrote: so much hate and dislikes. Meanwhile we have the first brave foreigner terran who decided to dedicate his time and challenge koreans in their own environment. This is super exciting.
I dont just get why he goes for the koreans when he couldnt "dominate" the foreigner scene. I guess the foreigner scene wasnt worth the time nor enough of a challenge
Imagine you occasionally playing football matches with your mates in neighborhood. There are about 100 people in your area. And you know that there is another neighborhood 100 miles away with 10000 people which is very competitive. And you have opportunity to move there and hang with them and learn something new. Would you go or stay in your neighborhood until you have 100% ball control ?
Thats assuming youve already kinda outgrown your current playfield. Is that the case? His latest result was RO16 last place in BSL. Kinda hard to find more results since his liquipedia doesnt show much except for 1-2 tournaments a year.
Just switching into a more competitive pool of player might just result in drowning
From what you’re saying, I can tell that you don’t know what you’re talking about or just not thought hard on the subject. No offense.
Agreed. If you want to outgrow your competition, you don't stay in the environment you are competing in, you learn from the best and by competing against the best. Even if Gypsy is the worst competitive player in Korea (unlikely), he will grow faster in Korea provided he has the right mindset and connections. There are few people who can teach you how to be better than they ever were in a sport, that takes a different skill set. So, the most stable way is to compete and work with players much better than you and bridge the gap faster that way. At least in my opinion and experience across multiple disciplines.
To make a potentially shitty analogy, marathons have pace makers. The pace maker for a senior citizens event will move slower than a pace maker for a competitive qualifier marathon. If you want to start growing to a solid pace, you will want to train and measure yourself against the more difficult pace maker than the geriatric one. We already have evidence of this from aforementioned examples like Assem, IdrA (despite that one F91 series lmao), etc.
On February 10 2026 07:08 ahwala wrote: Yeah, amusement and entertainment is all that counts. Decency, values, humility, kindness, righteousness – all worthless, unless it entertains. Also explains Artosis' success. Complete loser, awful player, ugly as shit, physically as well as mentally, only bigger losers are his twitch watchers/subs and his wife. And God help his children.
But in our society, I'm the villain? Lol.
I mean can't argue about some arguments, but attacking someone for his looks is pretty low. I think Artosis is pretty successful for a D/C rank player.
On February 10 2026 07:08 ahwala wrote: Yeah, amusement and entertainment is all that counts. Decency, values, humility, kindness, righteousness – all worthless, unless it entertains. Also explains Artosis' success. Complete loser, awful player, ugly as shit, physically as well as mentally, only bigger losers are his twitch watchers/subs and his wife. And God help his children.
But in our society, I'm the villain? Lol.
I mean can't argue about some arguments, but attacking someone for his looks is pretty low. I think Artosis is pretty successful for a D/C rank player.
I always wonder what happened to Artosis. Before sc2 he made weekly bw news which were genuinly intuiging, he used to be a way better caster than nowdays is, he used to be a nicer person. Streaming obviously has a part to play, but it isn't the answer for all the questions.
On February 10 2026 07:08 ahwala wrote: Yeah, amusement and entertainment is all that counts. Decency, values, humility, kindness, righteousness – all worthless, unless it entertains. Also explains Artosis' success. Complete loser, awful player, ugly as shit, physically as well as mentally, only bigger losers are his twitch watchers/subs and his wife. And God help his children.
But in our society, I'm the villain? Lol.
I mean can't argue about some arguments, but attacking someone for his looks is pretty low. I think Artosis is pretty successful for a D/C rank player.
Not everyone can be of S rank quality winning every game like you. Either the hidden hatcheries and tech issn't found and you win, or the opponent is a map hacker, and win mentally.
On February 10 2026 07:08 ahwala wrote: Yeah, amusement and entertainment is all that counts. Decency, values, humility, kindness, righteousness – all worthless, unless it entertains. Also explains Artosis' success. Complete loser, awful player, ugly as shit, physically as well as mentally, only bigger losers are his twitch watchers/subs and his wife. And God help his children.
But in our society, I'm the villain? Lol.
I mean can't argue about some arguments, but attacking someone for his looks is pretty low. I think Artosis is pretty successful for a D/C rank player.
I always wonder what happened to Artosis. Before sc2 he made weekly bw news which were genuinly intuiging, he used to be a way better caster than nowdays is, he used to be a nicer person. Streaming obviously has a part to play, but it isn't the answer for all the questions.
Artosis and Tasteless make $12,000 monthly on their ASL Patreon. Including months where there are no ASLs. Who knows how much he makes playing angry streamer.
Being an nerdy highly technical caster and being nice on will not land you that. Especially if you have 4 kids.
On February 10 2026 07:08 ahwala wrote: Yeah, amusement and entertainment is all that counts. Decency, values, humility, kindness, righteousness – all worthless, unless it entertains. Also explains Artosis' success. Complete loser, awful player, ugly as shit, physically as well as mentally, only bigger losers are his twitch watchers/subs and his wife. And God help his children.
But in our society, I'm the villain? Lol.
I mean can't argue about some arguments, but attacking someone for his looks is pretty low. I think Artosis is pretty successful for a D/C rank player.
I always wonder what happened to Artosis. Before sc2 he made weekly bw news which were genuinly intuiging, he used to be a way better caster than nowdays is, he used to be a nicer person. Streaming obviously has a part to play, but it isn't the answer for all the questions.
Idk for his stream because i don't care for it ,or any foreign stream tbh, i don't have time to watch much outside proleague once in a while and ASL, but i met him at the Montreal LAN again after like 8yrs not seeing him irl and he was super nice as always. I didn't notice any difference from the times over the last 2 decades we met at various events, besides being a bit older (and a parent ^^). Still the same passion for the game and general friendly but frank demeanor offline, as most old school folks tend to be.
Streaming/online is just a show. As with most entertainment.
On February 10 2026 07:08 ahwala wrote: Yeah, amusement and entertainment is all that counts. Decency, values, humility, kindness, righteousness – all worthless, unless it entertains. Also explains Artosis' success. Complete loser, awful player, ugly as shit, physically as well as mentally, only bigger losers are his twitch watchers/subs and his wife. And God help his children.
But in our society, I'm the villain? Lol.
I mean can't argue about some arguments, but attacking someone for his looks is pretty low. I think Artosis is pretty successful for a D/C rank player.
I always wonder what happened to Artosis. Before sc2 he made weekly bw news which were genuinly intuiging, he used to be a way better caster than nowdays is, he used to be a nicer person. Streaming obviously has a part to play, but it isn't the answer for all the questions.
Idk for his stream because i don't care for it ,or any foreign stream tbh, i don't have time to watch much outside proleague once in a while and ASL, but i met him at the Montreal LAN again after like 8yrs not seeing him irl and he was super nice as always. I didn't notice any difference from the times over the last 2 decades we met at various events, besides being a bit older (and a parent ^^). Still the same passion for the game and general friendly but frank demeanor offline, as most old school folks tend to be.
Streaming/online is just a show. As with most entertainment.
So is posting online in general IMO. It might be one side of us magnified from 2% in real life to 80% of our personality online. Especially given the inherent competitive nature and stress of this game, or the relative anonymity of this forum, for example. Speaking from personal experience 😂 I am not in person as I am online, especially not now as an adult and not a kid 18 years ago (thankfully, for the most part).
Being in Korea doesn't matter nowadays since the ladder is already here to make you play against good players regardless where you live, plus we already have access to pro kor replays/vod. Korea is not anymore that blackbox it used to be for so long. The most important is to have someone who has the level you want to reach to give you the required knowledge. So if Gypsy hopes to be pro level, he needs a pro to mentor him, plain and simple. Or else it might take centuries, or not happen at all.
On February 18 2026 17:40 iFU.pauline wrote: Being in Korea doesn't matter nowadays since the ladder is already here to make you play against good players regardless where you live, plus we already have access to pro kor replays/vod. Korea is not anymore that blackbox it used to be for so long. The most important is to have someone who has the level you want to reach to give you the required knowledge. So if Gypsy hopes to be pro level, he needs a pro to mentor him, plain and simple. Or else it might take centuries, or not happen at all.
You get matches with more koreans being in Korea. Matchmaking prioritizes location + mmr. You also get TR 24 Low, which is also a great to play in and pushes you to a physical mechanical limit.
But ultimately you do need a mentor in this day and age, or at least access to the korean language guides and knowledge. Decision making ultimately sets players apart. Having access to the korean language allows you to easily get to the reasons behind a decision, or an optimization.
There's the video. What an antagonistic POS, who the fuck would defend such a subhuman. The chatter wasn't even dissing or trying to discourage him, he was just trying to tell Gypsy to keep his expectations in check. And Gypsy mocks him for 20 minutes.
Fast forward 2 weeks. "Zerg imba". What a retard Gypsy is, kinda honouring his name.
If you're upset about gyp being mean to you on stream you can call him out on it but seems like the response is not proportional to what was said lmao
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