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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1104 Posts
January 04 2026 21:11 GMT
#21
From: StarCraft
1. Been there, done that
2. I had to read it twice
3. Thats my best one so far, AINEC
4. 5. 6. 7. 8. yes
9. That seems a bit high, but yeah close enough
10. blue
11. ty
12. headasploded.JPG
13. :O
14.
15. i understood it immediately.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1032 Posts
January 05 2026 16:05 GMT
#22
On January 04 2026 19:29 ScoutWBF wrote:
If both players micro well, it's hard to win with an SCV though.

Comsat costs energy. It's fair and balanced. Please understand.


Energy that's free after you have the comsat

the range is infinite, and the comsat is safe inside your base

you can kill my scouting overlords, it is not the same
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10265 Posts
January 05 2026 16:56 GMT
#23
On January 01 2026 22:53 iopq wrote:
To Terran:

1. You whine that only Terran has Concussive damage when vultures are the most cost-efficient units in the game.
2. You whine that only Terran has friendly splash damage when tanks are the strongest ground army units in the game.
3. You whine that defilers have 80 hp when vessels have 200 hp and fly.

I dont think a single person complains that defilers have 80hp. Also storm is friendly splash damage
I also don't think anyone complains about vultures having concussive damage. Almost every terran knows the power of the vulture. I think you're just whining.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10265 Posts
January 05 2026 16:58 GMT
#24
On January 04 2026 15:15 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2026 22:53 iopq wrote:
To Terran:

1. You whine that only Terran has Concussive damage when vultures are the most cost-efficient units in the game.
2. You whine that only Terran has friendly splash damage when tanks are the strongest ground army units in the game.
3. You whine that defilers have 80 hp when vessels have 200 hp and fly.



Oh, oh, Terrans also complain about SCV attack range and not regenerating, when they start with fucking 60 HP and do more DPS in combat to the point that an SCV kills a drone with 30 HP left.

Terrans complain about Zerg "maphack" where overlords see some of the map from a cliff. Yet Terrans have ACTUAL maphack where they see any point on the map any time they want from any distance to the comsat.

I don't think you've ever played TvP 2p map where Protoss gas steals then ruins your day with a single well microed probe. It's part of balance but it's annoying as fuck.

No Terran complains about Zerg maphack. calm down.
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mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey650 Posts
January 05 2026 21:23 GMT
#25
Happy new year to you as well.
I think we can lay it to rest Starcraft is not god's law. In 1.00, Tassadar was supposed to stop by at the 5th mission to help terrans out and drop a hive in the middle of the map on an island. The official version was very unique. I think people are blindsided by way of pros are leading the way we play starcraft and not the cutscenes telling another story.
In the official version, protoss were an extinct race with no reproductive capabilities. They had long lives, but very stale. The way you should play protoss is not how you should play zerg, throwing units around. You should have huge banks of shield batteries and you should be recalling units in and out from skirmishes before they got their shields depleted. Protoss is a power play. The game pathing making this an exception is not the rule.
Turrican
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1032 Posts
January 06 2026 07:02 GMT
#26
On January 06 2026 01:56 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2026 22:53 iopq wrote:
To Terran:

1. You whine that only Terran has Concussive damage when vultures are the most cost-efficient units in the game.
2. You whine that only Terran has friendly splash damage when tanks are the strongest ground army units in the game.
3. You whine that defilers have 80 hp when vessels have 200 hp and fly.

I dont think a single person complains that defilers have 80hp. Also storm is friendly splash damage
I also don't think anyone complains about vultures having concussive damage. Almost every terran knows the power of the vulture. I think you're just whining.


Also you cast storm manually, so you can't really "storm bomb" templars, but you can "zealot bomb" tanks

Those points are specifically mentioned by Artosis, so just because YOU can't think of a single person that complains about them, it just means you don't watch that particular stream.
SiarX
Profile Joined December 2021
112 Posts
January 06 2026 12:41 GMT
#27
Artosis bias towards terran and against toss is well known, so... not a credible source.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10265 Posts
January 07 2026 17:05 GMT
#28
On January 06 2026 16:02 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2026 01:56 FlaShFTW wrote:
On January 01 2026 22:53 iopq wrote:
To Terran:

1. You whine that only Terran has Concussive damage when vultures are the most cost-efficient units in the game.
2. You whine that only Terran has friendly splash damage when tanks are the strongest ground army units in the game.
3. You whine that defilers have 80 hp when vessels have 200 hp and fly.

I dont think a single person complains that defilers have 80hp. Also storm is friendly splash damage
I also don't think anyone complains about vultures having concussive damage. Almost every terran knows the power of the vulture. I think you're just whining.


Also you cast storm manually, so you can't really "storm bomb" templars, but you can "zealot bomb" tanks

Those points are specifically mentioned by Artosis, so just because YOU can't think of a single person that complains about them, it just means you don't watch that particular stream.

If you're using Artosis of all people as the defacto "look someone complains about these things as Terran!" then you might be a little dense.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5525 Posts
January 07 2026 20:59 GMT
#29
Keep up the good work, I enjoyed the post.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
rusty23456
Profile Joined September 2009
United States111 Posts
January 08 2026 00:31 GMT
#30
conclusion for being hard stuck at D rank.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
January 08 2026 02:01 GMT
#31
On January 08 2026 09:31 rusty23456 wrote:
conclusion for being hard stuck at D rank.

This. This is the perfect encapsulation of SCRVN.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway756 Posts
January 08 2026 16:23 GMT
#32
The best way to piss off D-rank players, is to just 2-gate Zealot rush. It’s amazing how often it works and if it doesn’t, they’re often behind because of multitasking fatigue.

Nothing pisses off a Terran player more than zealots running rampant in their bases on a-move. He has to micro his ass off while you just macro zealots and pylons.
Pro-tip is to do this with as little APM as possible. It really pisses them off if you’re way below 100 doing this xD
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
January 08 2026 20:03 GMT
#33
On January 09 2026 01:23 Timebon3s wrote:
The best way to piss off D-rank players, is to just 2-gate Zealot rush. It’s amazing how often it works and if it doesn’t, they’re often behind because of multitasking fatigue.

Nothing pisses off a Terran player more than zealots running rampant in their bases on a-move. He has to micro his ass off while you just macro zealots and pylons.
Pro-tip is to do this with as little APM as possible. It really pisses them off if you’re way below 100 doing this xD

ZZCore and ZCoreZ also achieve this but without being relatively all-in or hard-countered by walls which noobs still make regularly.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3124 Posts
January 09 2026 05:39 GMT
#34
Wait, I thought this post was satire.
Artosis loves Starcraft
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey650 Posts
January 09 2026 07:35 GMT
#35
On January 09 2026 14:39 NoS-Craig wrote:
Wait, I thought this post was satire.

10/10 either way. Crocodile tears.
Turrican
SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
122 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-09 15:09:21
January 09 2026 15:09 GMT
#36
Guys in the topic, don't blame me when you have not played more 10.000 games like me!

I have all purple portraits in every season, I know what you know.
starcraft remasteredvn | Other StarCraft Tournaments
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey650 Posts
January 09 2026 16:03 GMT
#37
On January 10 2026 00:09 SCRVN wrote:
Guys in the topic, don't blame me when you have not played more 10.000 games like me!

I have all purple portraits in every season, I know what you know.

I have a running hypothesis that if you lose with protoss, you just lack infinite apm. I can't fathom how some people miss that, but not everyone has pixel perfect execution. I used to play SFZ2. N-key rollover keyboard would literally uncover my skills. I imagine Bisu dropping HTs just like I throw comboes in that game, but he would do it all game.
Turrican
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
January 09 2026 17:15 GMT
#38
On January 10 2026 00:09 SCRVN wrote:
Guys in the topic, don't blame me when you have not played more 10.000 games like me!

I have all purple portraits in every season, I know what you know.

How have you played so many games but managed to learn nothing from them?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway756 Posts
January 09 2026 17:55 GMT
#39
On January 10 2026 01:03 mtcn77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2026 00:09 SCRVN wrote:
Guys in the topic, don't blame me when you have not played more 10.000 games like me!

I have all purple portraits in every season, I know what you know.

I have a running hypothesis that if you lose with protoss, you just lack infinite apm. I can't fathom how some people miss that, but not everyone has pixel perfect execution. I used to play SFZ2. N-key rollover keyboard would literally uncover my skills. I imagine Bisu dropping HTs just like I throw comboes in that game, but he would do it all game.

What I can’t fathom, is how Terran can lose at all, since in third grade I used to shovel snow after school and it made no sense at all to not just wait for the sun to melt it away instead of wasting energy on manual labor so Zerg could 9 pool before gas on python
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada782 Posts
January 09 2026 18:48 GMT
#40
On January 10 2026 00:09 SCRVN wrote:
Guys in the topic, don't blame me when you have not played more 10.000 games like me!

I have all purple portraits in every season, I know what you know.


Aren’t you like mid D rank on average? I’ve watched your stream before dude, you lack basic understanding and basic mechanics. I don’t think “Ive made low B rank every season” is the flex you think it is considering your high volume of games and the amount of dodgers there are on the ladder. It’s really not hard for most experienced players to be able to achieve B with all 3 races especially considering how many Koreans dodge and give free points and I believe it’s only like 1700ish MMR. Also just because you touched low B rank doesn’t mean your delusions are reality.
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