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keinjuan
Canada17 Posts
Calm officially said this according to fighterforum. "I tried to upset him(Hwasin) by saying I can still beat him playing in such strategy. I did not know this mind game would cause this huge misapprehension." Hwasin said "I just replied to Calm with no intention other than for fun. This happens very frequently between us. I just rushed him early because it doesn't really matter who win." yea.. so.. Hwasin really did not take the game seriously, regardless of the fixing issue. | ||
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starscrapper
29 Posts
It's rumor Andy is a nerd.... that's the truth | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On October 22 2007 16:08 FConnectionUK wrote: Not all Koreans are ignorant. Few other responses: *If this was a mental game, why whisper? Why not just chat in normal? *Such an honest mental game... Oh sorry I didnt read carefully enough. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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HonestTea
5007 Posts
Calm: "It was a mind trick, I was saying that even if I play like that I could still win, it was a taunt. I didn't expect it to cause this kind of misunderstanding." Hwasin: "I played along with his messages but chat like that happens every game [during practice]. The one thing I didn't want was for the games to go long. So I attacked early with the thought that, if it works great, if not, then Calm wins so great." Coach of STX: "Why would we fix a match when it doesn't matter who wins? I don't know where this controversy came from. What happened was two teammates with little experience playing in overseas tournaments were playing light-heartedly. From FiFo article. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
What does that have to do with anything? They're playing the exact same game. | ||
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Gokey
United States2722 Posts
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sprawlers
Norway439 Posts
BW karma pleeeease... | ||
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Fobbish
Korea (South)1071 Posts
On October 22 2007 16:14 Jibba wrote: "with little experience playing in overseas tournaments" What does that have to do with anything? They're playing the exact same game. game might be same, but playing front of different crowd, stage etc is different experience. like how some gamers chokes on the staged games. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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HonestTea
5007 Posts
On October 22 2007 16:14 Jibba wrote: "with little experience playing in overseas tournaments" What does that have to do with anything? They're playing the exact same game. I think the coach is referring to the fact that, the game is the same, but tournament organization and rules are different (ex: no chat in Korea) | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On October 22 2007 16:19 HonestTea wrote: Ah.I think the coach is referring to the fact that, the game is the same, but tournament organization and rules are different (ex: no chat in Korea) Well, it seems that they're digging themselves deeper since their "mind tricks" play out exactly what happened in game. BTW, can anyone translate what they say in the game 4 VOD when they're waiting for game 5 to start? | ||
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Maenander
Germany4923 Posts
On October 22 2007 16:12 HonestTea wrote: Quotes from the players from FiFo article: Calm: "It was a mind trick, I was saying that even if I play like that I could still win, it was a taunt. I didn't expect it to cause this kind of misunderstanding." Hwasin: "I played along with his messages but chat like that happens every game [during practice]. The one thing I didn't want was for the games to go long. So I attacked early with the thought that, if it works great, if not, then Calm wins so great." Coach of STX: "Why would we fix a match when it doesn't matter who wins? I don't know where this controversy came from. What happened was two teammates with little experience playing in overseas tournaments were playing light-heartedly. From FiFo article. Haha. In other words they did it, but fear the reactions. So they decided to admit it´s partially true. Calm: "Hey I will beat with only one sunken." Hwasin: "I bet you do lol." A very light-hearted convo, isn´t it ^^. | ||
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Tadzio
3340 Posts
On October 22 2007 16:12 HonestTea wrote: Coach of STX: "Why would we fix a match when it doesn't matter who wins? That's actually the best time to fix a game, for the usual reasons, though this is just speculation in this case: Sports gambling. | ||
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daladala
China8 Posts
On October 22 2007 16:18 FoBBish wrote: game might be same, but playing front of different crowd, stage etc is different experience. like how some gamers chokes on the staged games. | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On October 22 2007 13:43 A.G)Andy wrote: for those koreans who dont believe in this please go check with Hwasin on MSN or whatever you have He will tell you what he had done lol? | ||
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jackysura
China2 Posts
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/8jlh9NKNTCM/ 3rd http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/3OEKnUcCdTs/ | ||
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.dragoon
United States749 Posts
On October 22 2007 14:59 A.G)Andy wrote: For those ppl who may doubt it, here is the link of one BroadCaster post http://www.playsc.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=77118&extra=page=1 (i have no time to translate it ) His ID is Toodming He was Broadcasting PGL Season 2 ,i think a lot of ppl here was watching him from Pplive I'll do a quick rundown of this article: Basically he did a quick recap of the BO5 series, stating certain things, or lack thereof, as being fishy (no early-game scouting, 1 sunkens to a m&m push, etc.). He mentioned seeing "center barrack" in their game4 pre-game chatting, and that's when he realized that this is an "exhibition" and not the real deal. He also said in the closing paragraph how he didn't wanna tell the crowd what was happening cus, frankly, it's difficult to have to break the news to a crowd of adoring fans. He said he finally came out with it cus 1.) alot of people saw their 1st-person view, and 2.) he was angered by the fact that afterwards people were discussing a "falsified" series with a lot of fanfare and excitement. That and Hwasin used the illegal "gas geyser bug" on JayStar knowing that it's banned by the Korean tournaments. He concluded by saying that all in all, he felt everyone did a good job organizing the event, and that he hopes the viewing public will continue to support IEST and the Chinese StarCraft scene. | ||
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starscrapper
29 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5485 Posts
http://stage6.divx.com/user/jimminy_kriket/video/1766638/hwasin-calm-5 | ||
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