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keinjuan
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada17 Posts
October 22 2007 07:08 GMT
#341
http://www.fighterforum.com/news/news_read.asp?cat=ISS&idx=21401

Calm officially said this according to fighterforum.
"I tried to upset him(Hwasin) by saying I can still beat him playing in such strategy. I did not know this mind game would cause this huge misapprehension."

Hwasin said
"I just replied to Calm with no intention other than for fun. This happens very frequently between us. I just rushed him early because it doesn't really matter who win."

yea.. so.. Hwasin really did not take the game seriously, regardless of the fixing issue.

Where shall my blood be spilled.
starscrapper
Profile Joined October 2007
29 Posts
October 22 2007 07:09 GMT
#342
Two Korean players were reviewing the 4th game while the break between 4th game and 5th."all drones, 1 sunken."that's definitely happend @ 4th game..
It's rumor Andy is a nerd.... that's the truth
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 22 2007 07:10 GMT
#343
On October 22 2007 16:08 FConnectionUK wrote:
Not all Koreans are ignorant.

Few other responses:

*If this was a mental game, why whisper? Why not just chat in normal?
*Such an honest mental game...


Oh sorry I didnt read carefully enough.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 22 2007 07:11 GMT
#344
I don't see what more evidence do they need? The screenshots matches /exactly/. Also from the sounds of things, it sounded already like they acknowledge that the things said were probably what their strats were going into game but yet they expect us to believe that they were trying to mentally psych the other person out? That's just ridiculous and from the tone of things sounds like they're covering their behind. You don't deny something by saying "oh it's not true but just in case it's true, here's another excuse to throw at you".
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
October 22 2007 07:12 GMT
#345
Quotes from the players from FiFo article:

Calm: "It was a mind trick, I was saying that even if I play like that I could still win, it was a taunt. I didn't expect it to cause this kind of misunderstanding."

Hwasin: "I played along with his messages but chat like that happens every game [during practice]. The one thing I didn't want was for the games to go long. So I attacked early with the thought that, if it works great, if not, then Calm wins so great."

Coach of STX: "Why would we fix a match when it doesn't matter who wins? I don't know where this controversy came from. What happened was two teammates with little experience playing in overseas tournaments were playing light-heartedly.

From FiFo article.
returns upon momentous occasions.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 22 2007 07:14 GMT
#346
"with little experience playing in overseas tournaments"

What does that have to do with anything? They're playing the exact same game.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
October 22 2007 07:16 GMT
#347
hmmm... interesting developments
sprawlers
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway439 Posts
October 22 2007 07:17 GMT
#348
hwasin and Calm must be happy.. bad blood between China and South Korea seems to be enough to make whats the truth irrelevant.. the fact that the videos didn't get uploaded fast enough also gave them all the time they needed to say that the screenshot was manipulated and that they wouldn't even bother responding to such accusations, and now the entire community seems to have decided it was just "some jealous Chinese guy".

BW karma pleeeease...
Fobbish
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Korea (South)1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-22 07:19:50
October 22 2007 07:18 GMT
#349
On October 22 2007 16:14 Jibba wrote:
"with little experience playing in overseas tournaments"

What does that have to do with anything? They're playing the exact same game.


game might be same, but playing front of different crowd, stage etc is different experience.

like how some gamers chokes on the staged games.
강함은 타고나는 것이 아니라 만들어 지는 것이다! - 외인구단
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 22 2007 07:18 GMT
#350
kind of reminds me when sosa was caught with a corked bat.. "Woops it was from batting practice! How did that get in there?"
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
October 22 2007 07:19 GMT
#351
On October 22 2007 16:14 Jibba wrote:
"with little experience playing in overseas tournaments"

What does that have to do with anything? They're playing the exact same game.


I think the coach is referring to the fact that, the game is the same, but tournament organization and rules are different (ex: no chat in Korea)
returns upon momentous occasions.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-22 07:21:56
October 22 2007 07:21 GMT
#352
On October 22 2007 16:19 HonestTea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2007 16:14 Jibba wrote:
"with little experience playing in overseas tournaments"

What does that have to do with anything? They're playing the exact same game.


I think the coach is referring to the fact that, the game is the same, but tournament organization and rules are different (ex: no chat in Korea)
Ah.

Well, it seems that they're digging themselves deeper since their "mind tricks" play out exactly what happened in game. BTW, can anyone translate what they say in the game 4 VOD when they're waiting for game 5 to start?
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
October 22 2007 07:22 GMT
#353
On October 22 2007 16:12 HonestTea wrote:
Quotes from the players from FiFo article:

Calm: "It was a mind trick, I was saying that even if I play like that I could still win, it was a taunt. I didn't expect it to cause this kind of misunderstanding."

Hwasin: "I played along with his messages but chat like that happens every game [during practice]. The one thing I didn't want was for the games to go long. So I attacked early with the thought that, if it works great, if not, then Calm wins so great."

Coach of STX: "Why would we fix a match when it doesn't matter who wins? I don't know where this controversy came from. What happened was two teammates with little experience playing in overseas tournaments were playing light-heartedly.

From FiFo article.

Haha. In other words they did it, but fear the reactions. So they decided to admit it´s partially true.

Calm: "Hey I will beat with only one sunken."
Hwasin: "I bet you do lol."

A very light-hearted convo, isn´t it ^^.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
October 22 2007 07:24 GMT
#354
On October 22 2007 16:12 HonestTea wrote:

Coach of STX: "Why would we fix a match when it doesn't matter who wins?


That's actually the best time to fix a game, for the usual reasons, though this is just speculation in this case: Sports gambling.
daladala
Profile Joined October 2007
China8 Posts
October 22 2007 07:29 GMT
#355
haahaaa ^^
On October 22 2007 16:18 FoBBish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2007 16:14 Jibba wrote:
"with little experience playing in overseas tournaments"

What does that have to do with anything? They're playing the exact same game.


game might be same, but playing front of different crowd, stage etc is different experience.

like how some gamers chokes on the staged games.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
October 22 2007 07:30 GMT
#356
On October 22 2007 13:43 A.G)Andy wrote:
for those koreans who dont believe in this

please go check with Hwasin on MSN or whatever you have

He will tell you what he had done



lol?
Terran & Potato Salad.
jackysura
Profile Joined September 2007
China2 Posts
October 22 2007 07:35 GMT
#357
IEST Finals 5th game Calm 1st vod
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/8jlh9NKNTCM/

3rd
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/3OEKnUcCdTs/
.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-22 07:42:02
October 22 2007 07:36 GMT
#358
On October 22 2007 14:59 A.G)Andy wrote:
For those ppl who may doubt it, here is the link of one BroadCaster post
http://www.playsc.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=77118&extra=page=1 (i have no time to translate it ) His ID is Toodming

He was Broadcasting PGL Season 2 ,i think a lot of ppl here was watching him from Pplive


I'll do a quick rundown of this article:

Basically he did a quick recap of the BO5 series, stating certain things, or lack thereof, as being fishy (no early-game scouting, 1 sunkens to a m&m push, etc.). He mentioned seeing "center barrack" in their game4 pre-game chatting, and that's when he realized that this is an "exhibition" and not the real deal.

He also said in the closing paragraph how he didn't wanna tell the crowd what was happening cus, frankly, it's difficult to have to break the news to a crowd of adoring fans. He said he finally came out with it cus 1.) alot of people saw their 1st-person view, and 2.) he was angered by the fact that afterwards people were discussing a "falsified" series with a lot of fanfare and excitement. That and Hwasin used the illegal "gas geyser bug" on JayStar knowing that it's banned by the Korean tournaments.

He concluded by saying that all in all, he felt everyone did a good job organizing the event, and that he hopes the viewing public will continue to support IEST and the Chinese StarCraft scene.
If you can, then do. If I can, I will.
starscrapper
Profile Joined October 2007
29 Posts
October 22 2007 07:36 GMT
#359
Andy is a a faceless racist . Folks judge for youself.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5500 Posts
October 22 2007 07:39 GMT
#360
stage6 of game 5 if anyone wants it, no better quality than the youtube ones.
http://stage6.divx.com/user/jimminy_kriket/video/1766638/hwasin-calm-5
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