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On October 22 2007 13:46 aoaoao wrote:
It's really not a big deal,IEST should not invite koreans from the same team,it's the organizer's fault
So say, some football team loses to another team because their "friend" betted money on the oppositing team or something like that, is it organizers fault?
How is the organizer supposed to know that the football team was actually the Sucky Team X?
This is the same situation but without betting, saying its organizers fault is just stupid
Things like this can't happen if we want e-Sports to keep growing.
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On October 22 2007 13:20 []Dlayer wrote:
Hwasin and Calm wouldnt chat like that while thousands of people are watching unless they're really that stupid. Seems like people( mostly Chinese who are jealous of Koreas egaming success)
silly of you to say that
I watched their whispers on screen ,so did hundreds of Hwasin's fans ,they were watching Hwasin's view.
it's not about jealousy , Chinese were angry because they paid to watch their idol's match , but got fooled by their idol .
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United States4991 Posts
This chinese site fucking sucks at working for me  . I can do the conversion from .flv to .wmv or whatever youtube wants, but I can't get the .flv. If someone will download the .flv, I'll convert it and upload it to youtube.
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On October 22 2007 13:20 []Dlayer wrote:
I really think Hwasin and Calm were just joking around. If the match was rigged/arranged it was probably done before the game. Hwasin and Calm wouldnt chat like that while thousands of people are watching unless they're really that stupid. Seems like people( mostly Chinese who are jealous of Koreas egaming success) are overexaggerating over some random joke(chat) between Hwasin & Calm.
edit: Hwasin & Calm is innocent untill proven guilty.
QFT
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not just chinese ppl saw that
a lot of ppl out of china were watching it by PPL live
its like PGL we can watch both player first person view live
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On October 22 2007 13:51 ambit!ous1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2007 13:20 []Dlayer wrote:
I really think Hwasin and Calm were just joking around. If the match was rigged/arranged it was probably done before the game. Hwasin and Calm wouldnt chat like that while thousands of people are watching unless they're really that stupid. Seems like people( mostly Chinese who are jealous of Koreas egaming success) are overexaggerating over some random joke(chat) between Hwasin & Calm.
edit: Hwasin & Calm is innocent untill proven guilty.
QFT
The proof is right in front of your eyes and you aren't able to see it 
If it was a joke, its a fucking idiotic one for sure.
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hm.. It seems nobody here or in any other community saw that vid except a few chinese ppl..
No definite proofs yet.
Bump.
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Well, who in their right mind would go through all the trouble to do this, etc.
That is a rhetorical question, as it's quite obvious that it could be possible, but nevertheless...
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btw, Korean font was installed in the game.
If you see game 1,2,3, they typed ㅎㅎ or ㅈㅈ instead of gg.
(ㅎㅎ is just a typo where you put gg without converting the keyboard setting into korean.
ㅈㅈ is just equivalent of gg in terms of pronounciation)
just FYI
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On October 22 2007 14:07 keinjuan wrote:
hm.. It seems nobody here or in any other community saw that vid except a few chinese ppl..
No definite proofs yet.
Bump.
so glad to see you made all your 5 posts in this topic
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
What is taking so long to get even a small clip from the video onto a better site? I know China has problems with web censorship, but this is just ridiculous.
Of course I believe they rigged the games, but bringing this fact to the attention of the average Korean SC fan without first making those videos available for download (for the non-Chinese world) is just a collosal failure -_-.
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
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andy i think u should calm down. i doubt this affects ur life this much.
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so mount of stupid man disscusing a obvious rigged game.
i went to iest hall yesterday.
its so obviously,two korea man playing the game like nomarly trainning.
no big game,no strong game,like they had made a same module.
they win the game one by one.they deceived the chinese people and the player on computer all
over the word.
. i just very angry and bile for their personality .
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Furthermore, considering the prize money comes from ads and other sponsorship, and possibly from ticket sales (?), the final players are obligated to at least try their best. Professional sports players get paid because people want to watch them play. Rigging games like this with 100% proof should be grounds for them to forfeit their prize money, in my opinion. Let alone how morally outrageous it is.
On October 22 2007 08:52 DTDominion wrote:
At some point, Koreans hold all the power. Because the Korean community doesn't care about foreigners (due to a combination of racism and generally being dick headed), Korean players can blow off foreign players and tournaments without any repercussions. But if a foreign tournament blows off Korean players, its cut off from being taken seriously ever again.
Not necessarily. Remember the TLTour final tournaments?
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What are chinese ppl thinking? If you've got the proof, just show us and we will believe it.
Just trying to offend other ppl does not do any good. By far, no non-chinese ppl managed to see that vid.
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once again looking back the World Cup 2002
Korea vs Spain Korea vs Italy that was a Joke
from the behavior of past year WCG performance ,im not suprised why they did that
or for what
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On October 22 2007 14:19 Bill307 wrote:
What is taking so long to get even a small clip from the video onto a better site? I know China has problems with web censorship, but this is just ridiculous.
Of course I believe they rigged the games, but bringing this fact to the attention of the average Korean SC fan without first making those videos available for download (for the non-Chinese world) is just a collosal failure -_-.
so i've told Andy not to flog a dead horse here .
IEST is a laughingstock now , paid money to invite Korean progamers and got toyed with .
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On October 22 2007 14:39 keinjuan wrote:
What are chinese ppl thinking? If you've got the proof, just show us and we will believe it.
Just trying to offend other ppl does not do any good. By far, no non-chinese ppl managed to see that vid.
there'are some ppl seeing it out of china from the PPlive
get back to this thread you will find it
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