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On September 08 2017 14:17 Starlightsun wrote: If Sea's story is true, I would be scared to corroborate it if I were the girl. Once the angry mob is out on a witch hunt, they have to have somebody's blood. If not Sea's, then they'll probably drag her through the mud as being a faker or something. Lol so apparently whether Sea's story is true or not the lady is the victim.
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On September 08 2017 14:23 RWLabs wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2017 14:17 Starlightsun wrote: If Sea's story is true, I would be scared to corroborate it if I were the girl. Once the angry mob is out on a witch hunt, they have to have somebody's blood. If not Sea's, then they'll probably drag her through the mud as being a faker or something. Lol so apparently whether Sea's story is true or not the lady is the victim.
That was not my meaning at all. I said she has reason not to publicly support him, which would make him the victim. If she does then yes she might become an additional victim of people's knee-jerk self righteous anger.
Geez I'm afraid my writing makes no sense, for someone to so badly misconstrue what I was intending to say.
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On September 07 2017 22:48 iFU.pauline wrote: She was asking for it.
User was temp banned for this post. If I read the nickname right, this comment is completely in line with this users identification.
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So the media over there are scum too, what a shocker. Hope they reinstate his ASL spot (although I imagine Afreeca will be very reluctant to admit they were wrong.)
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On September 08 2017 14:56 nimdil wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 22:48 iFU.pauline wrote: She was asking for it.
User was temp banned for this post. If I read the nickname right, this comment is completely in line with this users identification. ?
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Little boy gets rejected. Little boy throws a tantrum. What a piss ant.
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On September 07 2017 23:42 Sk0 wrote: I personally find that you made a drama from nothing, this is a very normal reaction from a drunk person, I think that you can see this kind of scene in every bar in every part of the world... Maybe some persons can act normally even if they drunk, others not...
if thats normal for you ... stop drinking thats disgusting even thinking its normal is disgusting ... when u drink and u get violent then dont drink until ur drunk ... there is no excuse at ALL
as i said there are normaly 3 persosn when drunk, the funny one, the chatty one and the violent one, and some rare people just fall asleep
if you in the 20-30% who get violent its not the "normal thing" its just a importent thing for u to know that u DONT DRINK so much then, u cant say "jaeh but i was drunk" if u know before that u can get violent drunk ... no excuse
On September 08 2017 00:24 Kaolla wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2017 00:14 Mohdoo wrote:On September 07 2017 23:42 Sk0 wrote: I personally find that you made a drama from nothing, this is a very normal reaction from a drunk person, I think that you can see this kind of scene in every bar in every part of the world... Maybe some persons can act normally even if they drunk, others not... No. If this is "normal" for you, you're a piece of shit. Hitting women is disgraceful. Gender inequality ftw. Yea it was a shitty action and im sure he deeply regrets it. I think so many fucked up shit happens when ppl are drunk, I don't think we need to call the guy a piece of shit cause he made one mistake. We'd probably all be pieces of shit going by such reasoning. Mistakes happen, let's hope he will/has learn(ed) from it.
tahts the problem .. people THINK everyone is like that drunk but its only like 20 stupid % ... and they should not drink ... when i drink the worst thing that can happen is that i talk you to death or make the worst jokes u ever hear and then piss myself laughing
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I think people need to read the statement before we comment any further. I to was quite disappointed when I first saw the gifs and heard the news.
Sea said he and the girl were playing around. Now, I'm not sure if that's true but we should wait for more info now I think.
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On September 08 2017 04:56 raymix1 wrote: why did they pick killer to replace him?
because he lost the final game to sea, so he is 2nd in line
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On September 08 2017 13:08 CHEONSOYUN wrote:Show nested quote +Translator Note (T/N): I'm not here to claim any side, I'm just translating.
Hi, I'm Sea.
I'm not good at writing long posts so I'm not sure if it'll turn out well, but I ask you to please read on.
I did not harass nor assult the other BJ during the stream. People are taking the specific moments from the broadcast and making me look like I assulted and/or sexually harassed her but that is not the case.
I am close friends with her (the female BJ), and we streamed many times together. The concept of the broadcast, when we streamed, was that I would try to touch her (T/N: word was "skinship", imo aka flirting, but with slight physical contact. Not to be confused with just touching her overly.), she would punch me in response, and that would continue. That was the concept. The said video that's floating around the internet was part of the concept, and it was nothing sexual. In fact, after the article was posted, my friend (the female BJ) messaged me saying that she was worried for me and asked if there's anything she could do to help out.
For the part where I looked like I was "assulting" her, I hit her in the elbow two times, and she threw ice cold water at my face, everyone laughed, and the atmosphere was pretty good.
I'm not saying that I did nothing wrong. I did drink a lot, and I did many questionable things on stream that made my viewers feel uncomfortable. However, unlike what the article states, I did not sexually harass or physically assult someone.
My reputation has been really tainted due to this incident, and my family is also having a very hard time due to this.
Today, I met a lawyer and decided to sue the journalists who wrote and posted the article online. I am also planning to sue those who are writing very hateful speech against me online, after I gather some evidence.
There's also some misunderstanding on my Afreeca ban:
I was banned 3 days for throwing up on stream, and 3 days for assulting another BJ on stream. Thus, it came out to be a 1 week ban.
What I think is very unfair, however, is the fact that I was disqualified from ASL Season 4 due to the 1 week ban.
I don't think it was right for me to receive the 3 day ban for fooling around with the regular broadcast concept, hitting the female BJ on the elbow, then considering it as an assult against another BJ. (T/N: He's not claiming that he "hit" her in a sense that he assulted her, but rather it was part of him flirting around/fooling around with her)
I can't understand this at all, and I feel its very unfair that I am forced to give up my ASL spot, possibly my last ASL before I turn 30.
Please do not insult me based on the malicious articles (T/N more like witchhunt) and posts that only contain assumptions and no facts.
Last but not least, if you see any comments or posts heavily insulting me online, trying to defame me for this particular incident, please email me at <redacted>. (T/N: due to some... not so great conversations happening on TL and other stuff, I'm removing the email on purpose)
Thank you.
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On September 08 2017 15:58 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2017 13:08 CHEONSOYUN wrote:Translator Note (T/N): I'm not here to claim any side, I'm just translating.
Hi, I'm Sea.
I'm not good at writing long posts so I'm not sure if it'll turn out well, but I ask you to please read on.
I did not harass nor assult the other BJ during the stream. People are taking the specific moments from the broadcast and making me look like I assulted and/or sexually harassed her but that is not the case.
I am close friends with her (the female BJ), and we streamed many times together. The concept of the broadcast, when we streamed, was that I would try to touch her (T/N: word was "skinship", imo aka flirting, but with slight physical contact. Not to be confused with just touching her overly.), she would punch me in response, and that would continue. That was the concept. The said video that's floating around the internet was part of the concept, and it was nothing sexual. In fact, after the article was posted, my friend (the female BJ) messaged me saying that she was worried for me and asked if there's anything she could do to help out.
For the part where I looked like I was "assulting" her, I hit her in the elbow two times, and she threw ice cold water at my face, everyone laughed, and the atmosphere was pretty good.
I'm not saying that I did nothing wrong. I did drink a lot, and I did many questionable things on stream that made my viewers feel uncomfortable. However, unlike what the article states, I did not sexually harass or physically assult someone.
My reputation has been really tainted due to this incident, and my family is also having a very hard time due to this.
Today, I met a lawyer and decided to sue the journalists who wrote and posted the article online. I am also planning to sue those who are writing very hateful speech against me online, after I gather some evidence.
There's also some misunderstanding on my Afreeca ban:
I was banned 3 days for throwing up on stream, and 3 days for assulting another BJ on stream. Thus, it came out to be a 1 week ban.
What I think is very unfair, however, is the fact that I was disqualified from ASL Season 4 due to the 1 week ban.
I don't think it was right for me to receive the 3 day ban for fooling around with the regular broadcast concept, hitting the female BJ on the elbow, then considering it as an assult against another BJ. (T/N: He's not claiming that he "hit" her in a sense that he assulted her, but rather it was part of him flirting around/fooling around with her)
I can't understand this at all, and I feel its very unfair that I am forced to give up my ASL spot, possibly my last ASL before I turn 30.
Please do not insult me based on the malicious articles (T/N more like witchhunt) and posts that only contain assumptions and no facts.
Last but not least, if you see any comments or posts heavily insulting me online, trying to defame me for this particular incident, please email me at <redacted>. (T/N: due to some... not so great conversations happening on TL and other stuff, I'm removing the email on purpose)
Thank you. add seas statement to the op please.
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On September 08 2017 13:08 CHEONSOYUN wrote:Show nested quote +Translator Note (T/N): I'm not here to claim any side, I'm just translating.
Hi, I'm Sea.
I'm not good at writing long posts so I'm not sure if it'll turn out well, but I ask you to please read on.
I did not harass nor assult the other BJ during the stream. People are taking the specific moments from the broadcast and making me look like I assulted and/or sexually harassed her but that is not the case.
I am close friends with her (the female BJ), and we streamed many times together. The concept of the broadcast, when we streamed, was that I would try to touch her (T/N: word was "skinship", imo aka flirting, but with slight physical contact. Not to be confused with just touching her overly.), she would punch me in response, and that would continue. That was the concept. The said video that's floating around the internet was part of the concept, and it was nothing sexual. In fact, after the article was posted, my friend (the female BJ) messaged me saying that she was worried for me and asked if there's anything she could do to help out.
For the part where I looked like I was "assulting" her, I hit her in the elbow two times, and she threw ice cold water at my face, everyone laughed, and the atmosphere was pretty good.
I'm not saying that I did nothing wrong. I did drink a lot, and I did many questionable things on stream that made my viewers feel uncomfortable. However, unlike what the article states, I did not sexually harass or physically assult someone.
My reputation has been really tainted due to this incident, and my family is also having a very hard time due to this.
Today, I met a lawyer and decided to sue the journalists who wrote and posted the article online. I am also planning to sue those who are writing very hateful speech against me online, after I gather some evidence.
There's also some misunderstanding on my Afreeca ban:
I was banned 3 days for throwing up on stream, and 3 days for assulting another BJ on stream. Thus, it came out to be a 1 week ban.
What I think is very unfair, however, is the fact that I was disqualified from ASL Season 4 due to the 1 week ban.
I don't think it was right for me to receive the 3 day ban for fooling around with the regular broadcast concept, hitting the female BJ on the elbow, then considering it as an assult against another BJ. (T/N: He's not claiming that he "hit" her in a sense that he assulted her, but rather it was part of him flirting around/fooling around with her)
I can't understand this at all, and I feel its very unfair that I am forced to give up my ASL spot, possibly my last ASL before I turn 30.
Please do not insult me based on the malicious articles (T/N more like witchhunt) and posts that only contain assumptions and no facts.
Last but not least, if you see any comments or posts heavily insulting me online, trying to defame me for this particular incident, please email me at <redacted>. (T/N: due to some... not so great conversations happening on TL and other stuff, I'm removing the email on purpose)
Thank you.
This needs to be on the front page before people with no knowledge of the situation start assuming things about Sea or the female BJ because if fits their political frame of the incident.
The only fact here is that we don't know what happened. It disgusts me to see (a small monitory) of people here want to pass judgement like they're omniscient gods. Congrats! People like you are why unqualified presidents and politics come into the mainstream.
Can admins lock this thread? IDK why people are debating about this
Little boy gets rejected. Little boy throws a tantrum. What a piss ant.
Yeah because we should crucify people up based on 3 gifs and an article.
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On September 07 2017 22:48 iFU.pauline wrote: She was asking for it.
User was temp banned for this post. If Sea's story is correct the injustice is real here
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On September 08 2017 17:02 LyDDa wrote: Whats BJ btw... ? ^^ Broadcast Jockey
Pretty much means streamer.
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On September 08 2017 17:05 supernovamaniac wrote:Broadcast Jockey Pretty much means streamer.
thx dude!
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So how many times did Sea actually hit her?
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i like how everyone adds a ^^ after asking what BJ means
^^
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I fear that most people who could learn a life lesson from this thread won't.
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TLers such a bunch of The Sun / Bild readers. Jumping on the gossip and turning into braindead mob before even listening to the accused side. Considering it's the BW section and I guess average age is like 25+ here...it's fucking sad.
User was warned for this post
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