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add this to the OP:
On September 08 2017 13:08 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
Translator Note (T/N): I'm not here to claim any side, I'm just translating.
Hi, I'm Sea.
I'm not good at writing long posts so I'm not sure if it'll turn out well, but I ask you to please read on.
I did not harass nor assult the other BJ during the stream. People are taking the specific moments from the broadcast and making me look like I assulted and/or sexually harassed her but that is not the case.
I am close friends with her (the female BJ), and we streamed many times together. The concept of the broadcast, when we streamed, was that I would try to touch her (T/N: word was "skinship", imo aka flirting, but with slight physical contact. Not to be confused with just touching her overly.), she would punch me in response, and that would continue. That was the concept. The said video that's floating around the internet was part of the concept, and it was nothing sexual. In fact, after the article was posted, my friend (the female BJ) messaged me saying that she was worried for me and asked if there's anything she could do to help out.
For the part where I looked like I was "assulting" her, I hit her in the elbow two times, and she threw ice cold water at my face, everyone laughed, and the atmosphere was pretty good.
I'm not saying that I did nothing wrong. I did drink a lot, and I did many questionable things on stream that made my viewers feel uncomfortable. However, unlike what the article states, I did not sexually harass or physically assult someone.
My reputation has been really tainted due to this incident, and my family is also having a very hard time due to this.
Today, I met a lawyer and decided to sue the journalists who wrote and posted the article online. I am also planning to sue those who are writing very hateful speech against me online, after I gather some evidence.
There's also some misunderstanding on my Afreeca ban:
I was banned 3 days for throwing up on stream, and 3 days for assulting another BJ on stream. Thus, it came out to be a 1 week ban.
What I think is very unfair, however, is the fact that I was disqualified from ASL Season 4 due to the 1 week ban.
I don't think it was right for me to receive the 3 day ban for fooling around with the regular broadcast concept, hitting the female BJ on the elbow, then considering it as an assult against another BJ. (T/N: He's not claiming that he "hit" her in a sense that he assulted her, but rather it was part of him flirting around/fooling around with her)
I can't understand this at all, and I feel its very unfair that I am forced to give up my ASL spot, possibly my last ASL before I turn 30.
Please do not insult me based on the malicious articles (T/N more like witchhunt) and posts that only contain assumptions and no facts.
Last but not least, if you see any comments or posts heavily insulting me online, trying to defame me for this particular incident, please email me at . (T/N: due to some... not so great conversations happening on TL and other stuff, I'm removing the email on purpose)
Thank you.
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On September 08 2017 17:36 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
TLers such a bunch of The Sun / Bild readers. Jumping on the gossip and turning into braindead mob before even listening to the accused side. Considering it's the BW section and I guess average age is like 25+ here...it's fucking sad.
Well, to be perfectly fair, doing a "drinking stream" for the sole purpose of creating awkward and cringy moments for your audience is questionable, even more so when you consider SEA is 27 years old.
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Well, this is a sad story. Regardless of how bad Seas transgressions were, this being out on the internet only hurts everyone involved.
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On September 08 2017 17:17 TT1 wrote:
i like how everyone adds a ^^ after asking what BJ means
^^
hehe... dont know what you mean 
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On September 08 2017 17:36 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
TLers such a bunch of The Sun / Bild readers. Jumping on the gossip and turning into braindead mob before even listening to the accused side. Considering it's the BW section and I guess average age is like 25+ here...it's fucking sad.
This is a really dumb post because you're just inciting shit and calling people out indirectly in this thread for something that isn't really their fault. You can't really blame people for making a strong assumption here because it isn't just based off a single news source with blurry photos; Sea has been banned temporarily from streaming on Afreeca and removed from ASL4. That is not a decision a company makes lightly. I'm not saying who is right or who is wrong here - but it is just really dumb to call people on this forum a braindead mob when a really impactful decision was made regarding the incident.
I mean, the situation seems to be complicated and misconstrued enough that it is going to go into a legal battle over Sea's reputation. I hope if Sea is innocent, his reputation gets mended, his family finds peace, and Afreeca finds a way to reinstate him or give him reparations. If he is not innocent, then he got what he deserved. This is a sad enough situation as it is, no reason to shit up this thread by pointing fingers at other people or getting on some retarded inbred moral high horse over people who just assume Afreeca has their facts right.
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On September 08 2017 18:14 SCC-Faust wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2017 17:36 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
TLers such a bunch of The Sun / Bild readers. Jumping on the gossip and turning into braindead mob before even listening to the accused side. Considering it's the BW section and I guess average age is like 25+ here...it's fucking sad. This is a really dumb post because you're just inciting shit and calling people out indirectly in this thread for something that isn't really their fault. You can't really blame people for making a strong assumption here because it isn't just based off a single news source with blurry photos; Sea has been banned temporarily from streaming on Afreeca and removed from ASL4. That is not a decision a company makes lightly. I'm not saying who is right or who is wrong here - but it is just really dumb to call people on this forum a braindead mob when a really impactful decision was made regarding the incident. I mean, the situation seems to be complicated and misconstrued enough that it is going to go into a legal battle over Sea's reputation. I hope if Sea is innocent, his reputation gets mended, his family finds peace, and Afreeca finds a way to reinstate him or give him reparations. If he is not innocent, then he got what he deserved. This is a sad enough situation as it is, no reason to shit up this thread by pointing fingers at other people or getting on some retarded inbred moral high horse over people who just assume Afreeca has their facts right.
Of course the real assholes are the celebrity gossip "journalists" who have no journalistic integrity and are ready to ruin a persons reputation and career for a little ad revenue. But how often do these celeb gossip stories turn out to be complete bullshit? Very often. Including for example the Luxury story. People are at fault too for still biting for these celeb gossip fakenews and putting the accused under immense stress, instead of waiting at least a little while to hear both sides. Once the reputation or career is damage it's very hard to repair even if the truth is uncovered later. Yeah I am calling people out because this behavior can destroy peoples lives.
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On September 08 2017 19:05 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2017 18:14 SCC-Faust wrote:On September 08 2017 17:36 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
TLers such a bunch of The Sun / Bild readers. Jumping on the gossip and turning into braindead mob before even listening to the accused side. Considering it's the BW section and I guess average age is like 25+ here...it's fucking sad. This is a really dumb post because you're just inciting shit and calling people out indirectly in this thread for something that isn't really their fault. You can't really blame people for making a strong assumption here because it isn't just based off a single news source with blurry photos; Sea has been banned temporarily from streaming on Afreeca and removed from ASL4. That is not a decision a company makes lightly. I'm not saying who is right or who is wrong here - but it is just really dumb to call people on this forum a braindead mob when a really impactful decision was made regarding the incident. I mean, the situation seems to be complicated and misconstrued enough that it is going to go into a legal battle over Sea's reputation. I hope if Sea is innocent, his reputation gets mended, his family finds peace, and Afreeca finds a way to reinstate him or give him reparations. If he is not innocent, then he got what he deserved. This is a sad enough situation as it is, no reason to shit up this thread by pointing fingers at other people or getting on some retarded inbred moral high horse over people who just assume Afreeca has their facts right. Of course the real assholes are the celebrity gossip "journalists" who have no journalistic integrity and are ready to ruin a persons reputation and career for a little ad revenue. But how often do these celeb gossip stories turn out to be complete bullshit? Very often. Including for example the Luxury story. People are at fault too for still biting for these celeb gossip fakenews and putting the accused under immense stress, instead of waiting at least a little while to hear both sides. Once the reputation or career is damage it's very hard to repair even if the truth is uncovered later. Yeah I am calling people out because this behavior can destroy peoples lives.
I change my mind, I agree with you.
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I'm suprised that the original blurred gifs are still up on the opening post when the unblurred video has been posted in the thread for a while now. The unblurred gifs certainly paint a different picture.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
How can he sue someone for reporting something that he properly staged to look "funny" when it clearly looks like he sexually assaulting / harassing the other girl.
If this was a "joke" from Sea this was the worst joke of all time and i am glad he is getting hit with the consequences. You don't use streams to promote this kind of "staged" incidents!
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"I am also planning to sue those who are writing very hateful speech against me online, after I gather some evidence."
I was hoping Sea would handle this case like a man as he seemed to be pretty nice guy before. But instead he tries to victimise himself oh dear god. That makes him look worse than it already is.
He fucked up, he should face the public speech about his public behavior that he himself streamed for everyone to see.
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On September 08 2017 19:24 Pandemona wrote:
How can he sue someone for reporting something that he properly staged to look "funny" when it clearly looks like he sexually assaulting / harassing the other girl.
If this was a "joke" from Sea this was the worst joke of all time and i am glad he is getting hit with the consequences. You don't use streams to promote this kind of "staged" incidents!
A proper journalist would try to corroborate the story by asking Sea, the girl or someone else who was present for a comment before publishing the story. This would separate the journalist from the common gossiper.
Sea, Terror, Larva etc...they are entertainers and partially actors. I agree the joke was bad and personally I don't know why people enjoy watching it, but it's not like you can't see similar stuff on scripted reality TV shows all the time.
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I used to like Sea, but definitely acting juvenile here... and not very much of a professional.
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I'd like to hear Ja Rule's thoughts on this tragedy.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
On September 08 2017 19:48 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2017 19:24 Pandemona wrote:
How can he sue someone for reporting something that he properly staged to look "funny" when it clearly looks like he sexually assaulting / harassing the other girl.
If this was a "joke" from Sea this was the worst joke of all time and i am glad he is getting hit with the consequences. You don't use streams to promote this kind of "staged" incidents! A proper journalist would try to corroborate the story by asking Sea, the girl or someone else who was present for a comment before publishing the story. This would separate the journalist from the common gossiper. Sea, Terror, Larva etc...they are entertainers and partially actors. I agree the joke was bad and personally I don't know why people enjoy watching it, but it's not like you can't see similar stuff on scripted reality TV shows all the time.
Would love to see a reality tv program where the actors are paid to "punch" a girl after looking like they have been rejected from their advances for the whole night?
And all these reality shows that make "jokes" which are in bad taste are hit with bunch of complains and media backlash when it happens. A footballer tweets an opinion > said opinion is very controversial or bad > gets suspended by the governing body from playing.
Sea got suspended from playing and performing because the "joke/stunt" he pulled was of no taste to what anyone should be watching especially the younger audiences.
Also your journalism quote is and what not is running a bit thin for me, journalism is about selling your story, if you think the Bild and The Sun are not going to dress up stories a bit to sell their papers then you are a bit naive ?
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On September 08 2017 17:56 Creager wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2017 17:36 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
TLers such a bunch of The Sun / Bild readers. Jumping on the gossip and turning into braindead mob before even listening to the accused side. Considering it's the BW section and I guess average age is like 25+ here...it's fucking sad. Well, to be perfectly fair, doing a "drinking stream" for the sole purpose of creating awkward and cringy moments for your audience is questionable, even more so when you consider SEA is 27 years old.
It's not questionable when streaming is his fucking job.
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So lame. He didn't punch her, there was no force. I do that with my friends all the time. He wanted her, but got rejected. So what? That happens every single weekend for everyone that goes outside instead of sitting on TL.
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On September 08 2017 20:06 Pandemona wrote:
Also your journalism quote is and what not is running a bit thin for me, journalism is about selling your story, if you think the Bild and The Sun are not going to dress up stories a bit to sell their papers then you are a bit naive ? That's not what journalism is about. Yes there are sensationalist stories, but even the Sun has more journalistic integrity than selling a story. They do write the truth and retract comments and do ask for comments and all the other stuff that make journalism journalism, not pure rank amateur trash gossip.
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On September 08 2017 20:06 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2017 19:48 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:On September 08 2017 19:24 Pandemona wrote:
How can he sue someone for reporting something that he properly staged to look "funny" when it clearly looks like he sexually assaulting / harassing the other girl.
If this was a "joke" from Sea this was the worst joke of all time and i am glad he is getting hit with the consequences. You don't use streams to promote this kind of "staged" incidents! A proper journalist would try to corroborate the story by asking Sea, the girl or someone else who was present for a comment before publishing the story. This would separate the journalist from the common gossiper. Sea, Terror, Larva etc...they are entertainers and partially actors. I agree the joke was bad and personally I don't know why people enjoy watching it, but it's not like you can't see similar stuff on scripted reality TV shows all the time. Would love to see a reality tv program where the actors are paid to "punch" a girl after looking like they have been rejected from their advances for the whole night? And all these reality shows that make "jokes" which are in bad taste are hit with bunch of complains and media backlash when it happens. A footballer tweets an opinion > said opinion is very controversial or bad > gets suspended by the governing body from playing. Sea got suspended from playing and performing because the "joke/stunt" he pulled was of no taste to what anyone should be watching especially the younger audiences. Also your journalism quote is and what not is running a bit thin for me, journalism is about selling your story, if you think the Bild and The Sun are not going to dress up stories a bit to sell their papers then you are a bit naive ?
Jersey shore and the like?
Sea said why he got suspended: 3 days for throwing up on stream, 3 days for hitting the girl. If he broke some Afreeca rules, it's fine if he gets suspended. What's not cool is slandering and accusing him of sexual harassment and assault when the whole thing was staged.
Maybe you are not aware of The Sun / Bilds reputation. They are especially known for their terrible track record with journalistic integrity and unethical behavior. At least in Germany there is a concept of "journalistische Sorgfaltspflicht"( journalistic due diligence) and a press codex to adhere to.
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On September 08 2017 19:40 Piste wrote:
"I am also planning to sue those who are writing very hateful speech against me online, after I gather some evidence."
I was hoping Sea would handle this case like a man as he seemed to be pretty nice guy before. But instead he tries to victimise himself oh dear god. That makes him look worse than it already is.
He fucked up, he should face the public speech about his public behavior that he himself streamed for everyone to see.
defending himself against character assassination is somehow bad?
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