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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-08 12:58:46
September 08 2017 12:57 GMT
#241
On September 08 2017 20:27 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2017 17:56 Creager wrote:
On September 08 2017 17:36 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
TLers such a bunch of The Sun / Bild readers. Jumping on the gossip and turning into braindead mob before even listening to the accused side. Considering it's the BW section and I guess average age is like 25+ here...it's fucking sad.


Well, to be perfectly fair, doing a "drinking stream" for the sole purpose of creating awkward and cringy moments for your audience is questionable, even more so when you consider SEA is 27 years old.

It's not questionable when streaming is his fucking job.


So what if streaming "is his fucking job"? Why are you assuming that the only kind of streaming is that cringey "do literally anything for money" bullshit that Sodapoppin and LegendaryLea do on Twitch and Terror is known for on Afreeca? There are so many other things you could be streaming without turning into a complete piece of shit, like, I don't know, gameplay of something maybe? hmmmmm......

I agree 100% with Creager's post in this quote chain.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
September 08 2017 13:01 GMT
#242
On September 08 2017 19:40 Piste wrote:
"I am also planning to sue those who are writing very hateful speech against me online, after I gather some evidence."

I was hoping Sea would handle this case like a man as he seemed to be pretty nice guy before. But instead he tries to victimise himself oh dear god. That makes him look worse than it already is.

He fucked up, he should face the public speech about his public behavior that he himself streamed for everyone to see.


I am sorry to say that but this must be the stupidest post I have ever read here.
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pNRG
Profile Joined February 2012
United States333 Posts
September 08 2017 13:06 GMT
#243
On September 08 2017 15:35 SK.Testie wrote:
Little boy gets rejected. Little boy throws a tantrum. What a piss ant.


Get back to streaming HoN with your Trump memes.


Related to topic. If the female BJ comes out and corroborates Sea, I'd love to see the recantation of all the people shitposting him. Good to see him defending himself legally vs. the hysterical, holier-than-thou, virtue-signaling crowd.

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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
September 08 2017 13:14 GMT
#244
On September 08 2017 22:06 pNRG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2017 15:35 SK.Testie wrote:
Little boy gets rejected. Little boy throws a tantrum. What a piss ant.


Get back to streaming HoN with your Trump memes.


Related to topic. If the female BJ comes out and corroborates Sea, I'd love to see the recantation of all the people shitposting him. Good to see him defending himself legally vs. the hysterical, holier-than-thou, virtue-signaling crowd.



TIL "hey maybe don't get drunk and punch people" is virtue signalling.

🤔
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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
September 08 2017 13:15 GMT
#245
On September 08 2017 22:06 pNRG wrote:

Related to topic. If the female BJ comes out and corroborates Sea, I'd love to see the recantation of all the people shitposting him.


it's got nothing to do with the incident itself. She might change her mind, they might settle it with money, she might be just unwilling to let it escalate for whatever reasons, etc.
Michael Probu
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
September 08 2017 13:17 GMT
#246
On September 08 2017 22:15 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2017 22:06 pNRG wrote:

Related to topic. If the female BJ comes out and corroborates Sea, I'd love to see the recantation of all the people shitposting him.


it's got nothing to do with the incident itself. She might change her mind, they might settle it with money, she might be just unwilling to let it escalate for whatever reasons, etc.


This.

And furthermore it's not like absolving him of this one incident will somehow retroactively undo his underlying problem with drinking and being a jackass.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
September 08 2017 13:20 GMT
#247
On September 08 2017 22:06 pNRG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2017 15:35 SK.Testie wrote:
Little boy gets rejected. Little boy throws a tantrum. What a piss ant.


Get back to streaming HoN with your Trump memes.


Related to topic. If the female BJ comes out and corroborates Sea, I'd love to see the recantation of all the people shitposting him. Good to see him defending himself legally vs. the hysterical, holier-than-thou, virtue-signaling crowd.



Didn't she already say she had forgiven him, thought i read that somewhere and if that would be the case, it does not rly support this new story. But yea, I feel no matter what anyone says now, it's hard to tell what really happened.

Either way, even if it was all staged, it was a pretty poor idea to stream it live and I guess this shows exactly what can happen. Don't see how you can blame any media posting articles about it either, after all this is exactly what he/they wanted them to think?!
its me
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1923 Posts
September 08 2017 13:31 GMT
#248
On September 08 2017 20:27 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2017 17:56 Creager wrote:
On September 08 2017 17:36 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
TLers such a bunch of The Sun / Bild readers. Jumping on the gossip and turning into braindead mob before even listening to the accused side. Considering it's the BW section and I guess average age is like 25+ here...it's fucking sad.


Well, to be perfectly fair, doing a "drinking stream" for the sole purpose of creating awkward and cringy moments for your audience is questionable, even more so when you consider SEA is 27 years old.

It's not questionable when streaming is his fucking job.


When you look at all those streamers who manage to make a living without getting drunk on camera, it certainly is.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-08 13:39:02
September 08 2017 13:38 GMT
#249
there are a lot of streamers who do drunk streams. they're usually fun, really funny, bring in lots of donations etc

koreans for some reason like to have 3 or 4 people on camera all the time (aggravating when I just want to watch some BW) and they really like doing IRL shit where they just sit in front of cameras talking or eating. I actually hate the afreeca stream culture, it's really really annoying since I've been wanting to watch players grind games and all they do is yell a lot and rarely actually play BW

solo drunk stream: funny
social drunk stream where you get awkwardly sexually aggressive: not funny
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esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
September 08 2017 13:43 GMT
#250
#freeSea

why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
September 08 2017 13:47 GMT
#251
I think I missed a page. The thing was definately all staged? That's what Sea said, but is that now the excepted version of events?
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
September 08 2017 14:11 GMT
#252
Sea is one hell of an actor if all of it was staged, because he looked and acted exactly like a cuntfaced person would have.
Michael Probu
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 08 2017 14:31 GMT
#253
On September 08 2017 22:47 Greg_J wrote:
I think I missed a page. The thing was definately all staged? That's what Sea said, but is that now the excepted version of events?

So far, if I'm understanding things correctly, we have a dramatic article that people reacted strongly to, Seas account and the uncensored gifs.

I'm kinda curious what the actual footage looks and especially sounds like, that'd probably tell you whether Seas account makes more sense than the drama around the initial gifs or not.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-08 14:44:08
September 08 2017 14:43 GMT
#254
On September 08 2017 23:31 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2017 22:47 Greg_J wrote:
I think I missed a page. The thing was definately all staged? That's what Sea said, but is that now the excepted version of events?

So far, if I'm understanding things correctly, we have a dramatic article that people reacted strongly to, Seas account and the uncensored gifs.

I just noticed that both women are literally wearing panties in a restaurant setting. Im not judging or excusing anything, just finding it interesting.

Why were they wearing panties?
Tyrant.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
September 08 2017 14:45 GMT
#255
On September 08 2017 22:38 mOnion wrote:
there are a lot of streamers who do drunk streams. they're usually fun, really funny, bring in lots of donations etc

koreans for some reason like to have 3 or 4 people on camera all the time (aggravating when I just want to watch some BW) and they really like doing IRL shit where they just sit in front of cameras talking or eating. I actually hate the afreeca stream culture, it's really really annoying since I've been wanting to watch players grind games and all they do is yell a lot and rarely actually play BW

solo drunk stream: funny
social drunk stream where you get awkwardly sexually aggressive: not funny


For bw, I usually watch last or effort. Last in particular doesnt seem to do anything on stream other than playing bw (and he streams on yt)
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
September 08 2017 14:56 GMT
#256
yeah i just need a protoss grinder

best usually is pretty good, Bisu Stork and Shuttle are the big offenders, but they're always the highest view counts
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 08 2017 15:12 GMT
#257
On September 08 2017 20:52 yB.TeH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2017 19:40 Piste wrote:
"I am also planning to sue those who are writing very hateful speech against me online, after I gather some evidence."

I was hoping Sea would handle this case like a man as he seemed to be pretty nice guy before. But instead he tries to victimise himself oh dear god. That makes him look worse than it already is.

He fucked up, he should face the public speech about his public behavior that he himself streamed for everyone to see.


defending himself against character assassination is somehow bad?

He should just man up and say something like "No i just cannot handle my alcohol and it will not happen again"
Instead he's acting like a child
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raymix1
Profile Joined August 2017
United States10 Posts
September 08 2017 15:15 GMT
#258
I think Sea's reaction was delayed too much for the public relationship. He should just respond immediately after the news release, post a video response with the female streamer he "harassed" to clarify the situation. So what's done is done, ASL can't undo their decision. So I would say that Sea should focus on communication strategy in the future of his streaming career.
epicdoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States489 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-08 15:25:58
September 08 2017 15:22 GMT
#259

"I am also planning to sue those who are writing very hateful speech against me online, after I gather some evidence."

I was hoping Sea would handle this case like a man as he seemed to be pretty nice guy before. But instead he tries to victimise himself oh dear god. That makes him look worse than it already is.

He fucked up, he should face the public speech about his public behavior that he himself streamed for everyone to see.



Because handling this case like a man means being rolled over by the court of public opinion. What a world it would be if everyone shared this opinion.


Show nested quote +
On September 08 2017 20:52 yB.TeH wrote:
On September 08 2017 19:40 Piste wrote:
"I am also planning to sue those who are writing very hateful speech against me online, after I gather some evidence."

I was hoping Sea would handle this case like a man as he seemed to be pretty nice guy before. But instead he tries to victimise himself oh dear god. That makes him look worse than it already is.

He fucked up, he should face the public speech about his public behavior that he himself streamed for everyone to see.


defending himself against character assassination is somehow bad?

He should just man up and say something like "No i just cannot handle my alcohol and it will not happen again"
Instead he's acting like a child



Didn't he literally say that?

I'm not saying that I did nothing wrong. I did drink a lot, and I did many questionable things on stream that made my viewers feel uncomfortable. However, unlike what the article states, I did not sexually harass or physically assult someone.


It's just when people are accusing you of much serious charges like sexual assault you tend to defend yourself.

Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
September 08 2017 15:46 GMT
#260
On September 08 2017 23:43 Jae Zedong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2017 23:31 r.Evo wrote:
On September 08 2017 22:47 Greg_J wrote:
I think I missed a page. The thing was definately all staged? That's what Sea said, but is that now the excepted version of events?

So far, if I'm understanding things correctly, we have a dramatic article that people reacted strongly to, Seas account and the uncensored gifs.

I just noticed that both women are literally wearing panties in a restaurant setting. Im not judging or excusing anything, just finding it interesting.

Why were they wearing panties?
Looks like really short shorts.
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