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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 06:10:29
September 26 2016 05:51 GMT
#2861
On September 26 2016 13:58 GTR wrote:
so i went into a few heroics (815-820 ilvl) with my dh and i was floating between 150-180k dps, i dunno if players are just terrible or i'm able to optimize playing dh well?


You can easily double that in ~855 gear depending on the speed of the tank pulls and the ability of the other DPS players. Mages, monks and hunters can also reach nearly as high but many others cannot compete well with these four classes for total damage in a dungeon blitz (druids, priests)

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"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 26 2016 05:57 GMT
#2862
On September 26 2016 12:32 Cyro wrote:
80'th percentile (better than 4 out of 5 parses) heroic ursoc DPS for warlocks at i845-847 is 230k for demo, 214k for destro and 189k for affli.

I get that feeling of hating class/spec and being unable to perform with it, i have been there a few times before. IMO find a spec that you love and go all-in with it for the expansion, who knows what will happen in 8.0! For me that was hunter in WOD after the new DK didn't stick and DH in Legion after they "ruined" hunters. I like to have a main but it is what it is


I'd be interested in what gear they're using. TBH, I feel like perfect rotation with my gear would barely break 200k because 2 of my relics are blue (815, 805) and I'm using straight mastery gear (Demo's worst stat).

The worst part IMO is that Soulburn: Haunt was the most compelling gameplay Affliction ever had and they threw it away for this bullshit.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 06:26:30
September 26 2016 05:59 GMT
#2863
2 of my relics are blue (815, 805)


It's not worth jumping specs when you don't have weapon, trinkets, stat prio or practice for it. If you fixed all of those things then you could probably pull 25-30% more damage now and 40-45% more post-buff without passing i850

if you hate the class, though, that's not going to get you far
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
September 26 2016 06:38 GMT
#2864
Well give it another week, warlocks are getting huge buffs this week.
Moderator
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 26 2016 07:08 GMT
#2865
On September 26 2016 14:59 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
2 of my relics are blue (815, 805)


It's not worth jumping specs when you don't have weapon, trinkets, stat prio or practice for it. If you fixed all of those things then you could probably pull 25-30% more damage now and 40-45% more post-buff without passing i850

if you hate the class, though, that's not going to get you far

relics are a huge thing.
you can actually watch your dps jump 10's of thousands with better relics

like before my 3rd slot i went from like 110 with arms to like 170(before discovering FR i mean)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
September 26 2016 07:11 GMT
#2866
Sad part is that playing FR arms is going to be boring as fuck after the patch. It's like blizzard doesn't understand that you don't neccessarily need to completely trash the gameplay to nerf a class.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 26 2016 07:26 GMT
#2867
On September 26 2016 16:11 Godwrath wrote:
Sad part is that playing FR arms is going to be boring as fuck after the patch. It's like blizzard doesn't understand that you don't neccessarily need to completely trash the gameplay to nerf a class.

I have a feeling protwars are going to be in the same bucket.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 08:23:19
September 26 2016 08:20 GMT
#2868
On September 26 2016 09:29 Cyro wrote:
This is becoming a bit of a long term problem, we've had this DDOS affecting players most days for a month straight. It's also affecting the other bnet2.0 blizzard games

I think it is the same for all the big online games. They are probably never not DDOSed. So they have to learn to deal with it.
Off-season = best season
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 08:30:18
September 26 2016 08:29 GMT
#2869
Has anyone had trouble with retrieving item information(in red text) on several items? I can't drink or hover over appropriate keystones, its really annoying. Supposedly 1 of my addons is causing it but I am only using Weakauras and DBM right now.
WriterXiao8~~
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22370 Posts
September 26 2016 08:31 GMT
#2870
On September 26 2016 17:29 Kipsate wrote:
Has anyone had trouble with retrieving item information(in red text) on several items? I can't drink or hover over appropriate keystones, its really annoying.

Logging out for a while fixed it when I had the issue.

Its usually caused by severe lag, causing the client and server to lose sync.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 08:39:01
September 26 2016 08:38 GMT
#2871
Ill see what I can do

im forced to switch to makarel which is less mana/second im pretty sure altho I should just join a bg for a table I guess. Protip for all you mythic+ers, if the healer is drinking you should eat speeds up the process so I dont have to top you off.
WriterXiao8~~
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
September 26 2016 08:41 GMT
#2872
On September 26 2016 16:26 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 16:11 Godwrath wrote:
Sad part is that playing FR arms is going to be boring as fuck after the patch. It's like blizzard doesn't understand that you don't neccessarily need to completely trash the gameplay to nerf a class.

I have a feeling protwars are going to be in the same bucket.

Yep. It's like if you like pushing buttons very often, you are in for a switch on your playstyle.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 09:10:06
September 26 2016 09:07 GMT
#2873
On September 26 2016 17:38 Kipsate wrote:
Ill see what I can do

im forced to switch to makarel which is less mana/second im pretty sure altho I should just join a bg for a table I guess. Protip for all you mythic+ers, if the healer is drinking you should eat speeds up the process so I dont have to top you off.

Would be even more cool if people used health pots since I have to use mana pots al the time. But oh well people are not even using their health stones in my raid.
Off-season = best season
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 09:30:44
September 26 2016 09:22 GMT
#2874
Health pots would be nice too actually

im consuming mana pots by the fucking pull rofl.

Also, I wonder if that 1 food that heals you super fast outside of combat works(it works in the Broken isles right?) and whether that is worth it compared to the dps food buff(probably not).
WriterXiao8~~
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 26 2016 10:19 GMT
#2875
On September 26 2016 16:11 Godwrath wrote:
Sad part is that playing FR arms is going to be boring as fuck after the patch. It's like blizzard doesn't understand that you don't neccessarily need to completely trash the gameplay to nerf a class.

Its already boring to play, i wouldnt play it if it didnt vastly outclass furys dps tbh
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 10:39:42
September 26 2016 10:36 GMT
#2876
On September 26 2016 19:19 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 16:11 Godwrath wrote:
Sad part is that playing FR arms is going to be boring as fuck after the patch. It's like blizzard doesn't understand that you don't neccessarily need to completely trash the gameplay to nerf a class.

Its already boring to play, i wouldnt play it if it didnt vastly outclass furys dps tbh

Meh, funnier than fury for sure, atleast for me.

For example there is a lot more nuance than people give it credit for.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statistics/10

Against

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statistics/10#dataset=10
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 11:26:29
September 26 2016 11:20 GMT
#2877
On September 26 2016 16:08 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 14:59 Cyro wrote:
2 of my relics are blue (815, 805)


It's not worth jumping specs when you don't have weapon, trinkets, stat prio or practice for it. If you fixed all of those things then you could probably pull 25-30% more damage now and 40-45% more post-buff without passing i850

if you hate the class, though, that's not going to get you far

relics are a huge thing.
you can actually watch your dps jump 10's of thousands with better relics

like before my 3rd slot i went from like 110 with arms to like 170(before discovering FR i mean)


40ilvl on weapon was flat ~+10% dmg for me, huge but they're nowhere near that big



^lololol
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
September 26 2016 11:41 GMT
#2878
On September 26 2016 20:20 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 16:08 arb wrote:
On September 26 2016 14:59 Cyro wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
2 of my relics are blue (815, 805)


It's not worth jumping specs when you don't have weapon, trinkets, stat prio or practice for it. If you fixed all of those things then you could probably pull 25-30% more damage now and 40-45% more post-buff without passing i850

if you hate the class, though, that's not going to get you far

relics are a huge thing.
you can actually watch your dps jump 10's of thousands with better relics

like before my 3rd slot i went from like 110 with arms to like 170(before discovering FR i mean)


40ilvl on weapon was flat ~+10% dmg for me, huge but they're nowhere near that big

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aTK2gr8LME

^lololol


Lol dungeon bosses are getting smarter man, that was a worthy combo.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
September 26 2016 11:47 GMT
#2879
Don't be rude with me, I wanted to ask something. I only played Vanilla wow and stopped when playing required me at least 4+hours (looking for a party to raid Stratholme I think? or similar stuff).

What has changed in the game now? Many years have passed, so items monsters etc. for sure, but is it still the same thing? If I were to log in tomorrow, would I still recognize gameplay elements or not? I'd like a short summary, I'm so curious
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22370 Posts
September 26 2016 11:53 GMT
#2880
On September 26 2016 20:47 SoSexy wrote:
Don't be rude with me, I wanted to ask something. I only played Vanilla wow and stopped when playing required me at least 4+hours (looking for a party to raid Stratholme I think? or similar stuff).

What has changed in the game now? Many years have passed, so items monsters etc. for sure, but is it still the same thing? If I were to log in tomorrow, would I still recognize gameplay elements or not? I'd like a short summary, I'm so curious

At its very core the gameplay is still the same.
Classes are a bit more involved but not intimidatingly so.
Its a lot more casual friendly. The grinds tend to be shorter, there is matchmaking for dungeons and raids (at reduced difficulty) so you dont spend 2 hours standing in IF/OG looking for a group. You just queue up and do something else while waiting.

If you want to play for 1-2 hours here and there you definitely can.
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