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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 05 2016 10:05 GMT
#1981
Ahh thanks, will check that out when i get home. I have been doing the mana and the fun withered daily/3 daily thing. Just gonna hit that guide up to double check i not missing stuff.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-05 13:25:06
September 05 2016 13:24 GMT
#1982
While i'm overall loving my vengeance demon hunter, there's one thing i have to complain about
The vengeance metamorphosis feels so fucking underwhelming, not really the spell itself but the design

you transform into this big hulking demon and suddenly all your attacks are just you hitting/clawing at the opponent
the visual design and the sound design seems so fucking pathetic compared to how cool the havoc meta is, and the worst part is that havoc meta atleast uses their warglaives while vengeance just doesn't use our artifact at all..

It's honestly bothering me so much i might end up maining havoc instead of vengeance just because it frustrates me so much
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-05 14:16:49
September 05 2016 13:48 GMT
#1983
On September 05 2016 16:51 Unleashing wrote:
Just incase someone here benefits from it:

Leather can quite easily be turned into obliterum through the forge, by crafting warhide jerkin or warhide pants roughly 400 leather -> obliterum

I see so many people selling their leather for less than 10g a piece on my realm and by turning it into obliterum each leather is worth atleast 20 or 25 for me, if not more

Crafting 815 belts/boots also gives me a way to spend all the blood of sargeras i was stocking up with nothing to do which means roughly 10 bloods = obliterum making my bloods worth 800~1000 gold each (and it's not like it's hard to get... i had like 400 that i didn't know what to do with)

I guess this also means that if you want to fiend the AH you could buy the cheap leather yourself But this was more meant for skinners who might actually be underselling their leather


Nice tips - i have not done the obliterum recipe yet because one of the pre-quests costs about 40k to buy the items for on my server AH and i didn't think it would pay off if i was focusing on other things before crafting. It still looks to be overly expensive, but maybe i can find a friend to do the leather to obliterum conversion for a reasonable fee. The Obliterum price has crashed from 500k each to 7.8k each on my server and continues to drop by a considerable percentage every day

---------------

On September 05 2016 17:42 Unleashing wrote:
?
You can easily use bloods as an enchanter. The best enchants require bloods.

Example, cloak enchants:

Word of agility is 150 agility for your cloak and requires no bloods.
Binding of agility is 200 agility for your cloak and requires 2 bloods at 3

You can also use bloods to craft relics or toys.


IMO 100 secondarystat + 10% runspeed is so much better that it's not even a comparison. It's a loss of a fraction of a percent DPS on patchwerk but even the tiniest bit of uptime elsewhere will make up for it and more, it's also just a great quality of life thing.

If you could apply that enchant 5 times, lose 625 potential agility (~2% of your agility) but get +50% runspeed forever then hell yeah - and it'll only get better deeper into the expansion as 1 agility becomes a smaller and smaller portion of your damage but runspeed percentage maintains a constant value.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4206 Posts
September 05 2016 14:03 GMT
#1984
On September 05 2016 19:01 Foxxan wrote:
Dont like this "grind" either from wow. But hey this is what blizzard does. Its not like i can look for another mmorph either since they all truly suck when you look at the combat mechanics, the feel behind it.

Btw, people seems to think you cant make stuff none-grindy but still end-game/content. It
wouldnt have to look like this.

And why cant i play 25BGS instead of grinding reputation for four factions so i can unlock world quests?


I like the grind. It's very reasonable, and something really important, is that people need something to grind/to work forwards to, otherwise it's just "i have nothing to do" all over again.

Granted there's a difference between like, WoD's lack of grinding, and MoP's everlast reputation grind, but Legion hits a sweet spot for me.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-05 21:55:38
September 05 2016 21:52 GMT
#1985
They made glory of the legion hero only apply to mythic dungeons where a few of the mechanics are ridiculous. "I ain't even cold" holy shit. I can't even find a video or tactics without people cheesing it by having everybody play paladins for the buff that prevents all magic damage for 10 seconds
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-05 22:31:34
September 05 2016 22:30 GMT
#1986
Well i like some grind to. The feel of the world quests are good, the feel with unlocking honor talents feels pretty excited aswell. Although the grind is to big there with how little you earn honor through arenas/bgs.

Anyway. My pvp experience so far has been really bad. The burst is INSANE+THe CC is INSANE as well.
Two things that speaks of BAD DESIGN but to be frank, why did i fool myself or did i fool myself? I was expecting it to be shit because its blizzard but hope grabbed me.. OR maybe i just play wow to sink some time.. Ye most likely. Pvp in wow could be amazing because the feel of the chars are actually GOOD.
My experience is through enha shaman for 2v2s casual no microphone talk. Just random ppl.

Will still try and farm more talents and gear. And try and get more skillful as well.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 00:29:10
September 06 2016 00:27 GMT
#1987
Oh man, today I noticed I have been level zero in artifact knowledge all the time (while gathering like 30k of artifact points). I dont know what happened to my first artifact research notes. You receive those before you start the first 4 day work order for artifact research notes right? Idk if I never got the first one or threw them away or whatever. In any case I was only able to get to lvl 1 artifact knowledge today with the research notes from the 4 day work order. Seems like I will be behind forever.

Not sure on the math there but I hope this will not have much consequences in the long run. I also submitted a ticket though I am not very hopeful.
Off-season = best season
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22237 Posts
September 06 2016 00:32 GMT
#1988
On September 06 2016 09:27 Redox wrote:
Oh man, today I noticed I have been level zero in artifact knowledge all the time (while gathering like 30k of artifact points). I dont know what happened to my first artifact research notes. You receive those before you start the first 4 day work order for artifact research notes right? Idk if I never got the first one or threw them away or whatever. In any case I was only able to get to lvl 1 artifact knowledge today with the research notes from the 4 day work order. Seems like I will be behind forever.

Not sure on the math there but I hope this will not have much consequences in the long run. I also submitted a ticket though I am not very hopeful.

No, you dont get one to start off with.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 06 2016 00:35 GMT
#1989
On September 06 2016 09:27 Redox wrote:
Oh man, today I noticed I have been level zero in artifact knowledge all the time (while gathering like 30k of artifact points). I dont know what happened to my first artifact research notes. You receive those before you start the first 4 day work order for artifact research notes right? Idk if I never got the first one or threw them away or whatever. In any case I was only able to get to lvl 1 artifact knowledge today with the research notes from the 4 day work order. Seems like I will be behind forever.

Not sure on the math there but I hope this will not have much consequences in the long run. I also submitted a ticket though I am not very hopeful.


You start at level 0 and you get your first notes 5 days after starting which increase your gathering rate to 1.25x. You have to complete that 5-day research and then manually go and pick up + use the notes.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 00:48:23
September 06 2016 00:44 GMT
#1990
Thanks, apparently I am stupid then but relieved. :D
I blame my brother though he told me he got his first right away.

Whole thing made me wonder how useful it would be to hoard your ap giving items for later use.
Off-season = best season
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 06 2016 01:17 GMT
#1991
None, because the items you've already gathered are unaffected by future artifact research.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 01:39:11
September 06 2016 01:37 GMT
#1992
That makes sense.

You could still argue saving ap giving quests or whatever but I guess it gets silly at that point.
Off-season = best season
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 01:58:05
September 06 2016 01:54 GMT
#1993
On September 06 2016 06:52 Cyro wrote:
They made glory of the legion hero only apply to mythic dungeons where a few of the mechanics are ridiculous. "I ain't even cold" holy shit. I can't even find a video or tactics without people cheesing it by having everybody play paladins for the buff that prevents all magic damage for 10 seconds

That seems really hard right now but with a little more gear I don't think it'll be too bad. If everyone gets two stacks of lava and the healer heals through that while you wait for 15 more patches to come out and you get the boss down to 0.1%, then you can spread out, use all cooldowns, pick up three more each and pop the boss before it can tick twice (assuming health pool + cooldown can get you through one tick).

Also, unrelated: I wrapped up the last of my Mythics, now at a much higher ilvl (and with a party of higher ilvl) and they are kinda easy. A group that is bad at the mechanics is still gonna struggle but 810-815 and 830+ crosses some thresholds to make a lot of things a lot easier. People that did their Mythics this week are all gonna be 840+ now mostly so it's already gonna be kinda trivial but it'll be good to get a few more warm up runs before Mythic+ comes out.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 06 2016 02:06 GMT
#1994
On September 06 2016 10:54 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 06:52 Cyro wrote:
They made glory of the legion hero only apply to mythic dungeons where a few of the mechanics are ridiculous. "I ain't even cold" holy shit. I can't even find a video or tactics without people cheesing it by having everybody play paladins for the buff that prevents all magic damage for 10 seconds

That seems really hard right now but with a little more gear I don't think it'll be too bad. If everyone gets two stacks of lava and the healer heals through that while you wait for 15 more patches to come out and you get the boss down to 0.1%, then you can spread out, use all cooldowns, pick up three more each and pop the boss before it can tick twice (assuming health pool + cooldown can get you through one tick).

Also, unrelated: I wrapped up the last of my Mythics, now at a much higher ilvl (and with a party of higher ilvl) and they are kinda easy. A group that is bad at the mechanics is still gonna struggle but 810-815 and 830+ crosses some thresholds to make a lot of things a lot easier. People that did their Mythics this week are all gonna be 840+ now mostly so it's already gonna be kinda trivial but it'll be good to get a few more warm up runs before Mythic+ comes out.


Yeah, Legion Mythics = Cata Heroics, punishing at low ilvl, fairly easy at intended ilvl. Mythic+ will definitely be interesting. I'm loving Affliction in dungeons, but given how it's working, I don't think it's going to do anything in raids because of how reliant on the Artifact trait it is (which is charged by killing targets). It'll be great on add fights and 3 target fights, but everything else it just seems behind the other 2 specs.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
September 06 2016 02:22 GMT
#1995
I am excited for mythic + too. I feel that mechanics trump ilevel though since even at lower ilevel the fights are punishing unless you fail to do something properly (outside of a few specific ones on your healer). Having a geared tank is nice too, but your dps you can basically bring anyone that can do decent and do mechanics and youre fine.

Been doing assa rogue and its good single target but I struggle on aoe stuff because lulz our aoe sucks.

Might try out outlaw eventually too since i got it up to same amount of artifact power until my first research finished.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 06 2016 03:00 GMT
#1996
mythics are pretty easy IF you do them properly, as they should be.

you need some room for the mythic+ too.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 03:05:17
September 06 2016 03:04 GMT
#1997
PSA to all the Hunters who don't turn off pet taunt during heroics. Go fuck yourselves.


On another note: I've been playing with elvui all last night and I really dig it. Been trying to stay simple with addons my whole wow career but I decided to change it up and I don't regret it. Revamping your entire UI really changes your playing experience.
Skol
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 06 2016 07:28 GMT
#1998
Haha my mate was on about how triggering pet taunt is on huntards xD

I did 2 mythic dungeons yesterday and we breezed threw them, got a legendary neck drop on first boss we did too haha. It's quite interesting, gives me a 350k shield which then repeats itself when i dont take damage for 5 seconds which is pretty dumb i guess but still out of combat it is nice and maybe dps warrior might be good too!
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
September 06 2016 11:26 GMT
#1999
hunters can always use

/petautocaston [nogroup] Growl
/petautocastoff [group] Growl

to not think about it.

just put it in one ability macro and you are done
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Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 12:34:44
September 06 2016 12:33 GMT
#2000
Wotlk was by far the best pvp experience hands down. From what i remember the burst WAS LOWER, in a semi-big way.
Felt like you could use skills in combat there over a longer period before you were dead/opponent dead.

Blizzard has said they will patch the game this time around, that it wont take long if a class is OP to get tuned down. A class is UP to get tuned up. Hopefully they look at general things to such as burst etc.
But i doubt they will actually make this a pvp experience for me to say "oh, now its actually good".

They REALLY suck at balance/and design.. REALLY REALLY SUCK.
Not just in WOW but in every fucking game out there.
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