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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 17:09:20
September 06 2016 17:09 GMT
#2021
i actually kinda remember that. iono though, dk's just felt pretty underwhelming at the end which I guess is blizzard's way of saying f u after season 5. i think the issue with frost was a lack of survivabiltiy.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 06 2016 17:43 GMT
#2022
App is up, get it while it's hot!
It's your boy Guzma!
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
September 06 2016 18:10 GMT
#2023
nice, just a warning to any demonhunter

the quest that requires obliterum takes all the obliterum that you have despite only needing 1 -_-

i just lost so much obliterum, just sent a bug report + opened a ticket
like 30% of all my gold was in that obliterum, was going to sell it
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 06 2016 18:48 GMT
#2024
The most common bug/annoyance I have had so far is with fishing and autolooting, it doesn't always let me loot everything so I miss the rare fish I need for the Legendary Fishing Pole rip.
WriterXiao8~~
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 19:42:33
September 06 2016 19:41 GMT
#2025
Man, ive leveled shadow first in a group with my dd dh and blood dk buddies and its absurd how much shadow sucks. Im 110 now and i hate doing anything on my own. Mobs hit like a truck, i cant pull more than two. I have 0 aoe dmg and the first pull without lingering insanity dps is garbage. We did our first few mythics yesterday and even on bosses that shadow should be good at, other classes like hunter and dh just do so much more damage. Staying above the tank in dps on groups requires so much effort with keeping dots up etc, which is fine when youre in a raid but when you just want to quickly run a dungeon its so annoying. I just dont enjoy shadow at all anymore. Its absolutely no fun. I just dont get why they design a class solely around a single spell and shoehorn it into the tiniest niche by that, making it suck in 99% of the content.
Oh and the class hall is absolute garbage too, you have to port to dalaran and then run for like 2 minutes through the corridors, meanwhile druids have a seperate tp directly to the hall and even get portals to all over the world from there.

So i started leveling hunter and oh boy did they get gutted on the abilities, but the damage is absolutely bonkers anyway. Press 2 buttons, top dps meter lululul.

Also dislike how much artefact power discourages you from 2nd speccing :/
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4209 Posts
September 06 2016 19:54 GMT
#2026
On September 06 2016 22:06 Laurens wrote:
So when is the world first race starting? And is it still Method vs Paragon?

Paragon is death.

I think core people from Method went and made their own guild called Serenity? Method vs Serenity probably, but who knows? Method's been gutted, but by how much? And their biggest competition is dead so it's up in the air.

On September 06 2016 23:00 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 22:53 NonY wrote:
Anyone know the point of getting revered with The Wardens? This guide recommends doing it in the to-do list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TiiI4huz4NXKfx7PGvvVTyP6xu8VaDNZ4-FEn69mOhc

On September 06 2016 22:22 Cyro wrote:
The lava ticks on you for 10 seconds and then expires

If it's only 10 sec duration then I guess you gotta wait until there's 25 lava patches, or about to be 25 lava patches, if that's even possible. Fully stacked I think it'll do 2.6M every three seconds so that's pretty rough. If it's as intended right now then that's the only thing I can think that Blizzard has in mind. Hold DPS and let the whole room fill with lava.

No idea why you want Warden rep

Nothing special from them
http://www.wowhead.com/faction=1894/the-wardens

just some 820 boots and a shoulder enchant that gives a chance to loot Blood of Sargeras but I have had 0 trouble getting enough of those.

http://www.wowhead.com/guides/broken-isles-pathfinder-how-to-unlock-flying-in-legion

You need Warden rep for that.

On September 06 2016 21:33 Foxxan wrote:
Wotlk was by far the best pvp experience hands down. From what i remember the burst WAS LOWER, in a semi-big way.
Felt like you could use skills in combat there over a longer period before you were dead/opponent dead.

Blizzard has said they will patch the game this time around, that it wont take long if a class is OP to get tuned down. A class is UP to get tuned up. Hopefully they look at general things to such as burst etc.
But i doubt they will actually make this a pvp experience for me to say "oh, now its actually good".

They REALLY suck at balance/and design.. REALLY REALLY SUCK.
Not just in WOW but in every fucking game out there.


Na, you had spell cleave and beast cleave which was stupid bursty. 2 lava bursts back to back with incinerate conflag, shit was intense.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
September 06 2016 19:54 GMT
#2027
Over time you'll get so much artifact knowledge that you can easily have all your specs high up
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10152 Posts
September 06 2016 19:55 GMT
#2028
It's so fucking satisfying to screw stealth scheme shenanigans with DH. The class plays quite differently to the rest, more wildstar-esque, which makes it more enjoyable than anything else.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22447 Posts
September 06 2016 19:59 GMT
#2029
On September 07 2016 04:54 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 23:00 Gorsameth wrote:
On September 06 2016 22:53 NonY wrote:
Anyone know the point of getting revered with The Wardens? This guide recommends doing it in the to-do list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TiiI4huz4NXKfx7PGvvVTyP6xu8VaDNZ4-FEn69mOhc

On September 06 2016 22:22 Cyro wrote:
The lava ticks on you for 10 seconds and then expires

If it's only 10 sec duration then I guess you gotta wait until there's 25 lava patches, or about to be 25 lava patches, if that's even possible. Fully stacked I think it'll do 2.6M every three seconds so that's pretty rough. If it's as intended right now then that's the only thing I can think that Blizzard has in mind. Hold DPS and let the whole room fill with lava.

No idea why you want Warden rep

Nothing special from them
http://www.wowhead.com/faction=1894/the-wardens

just some 820 boots and a shoulder enchant that gives a chance to loot Blood of Sargeras but I have had 0 trouble getting enough of those.

http://www.wowhead.com/guides/broken-isles-pathfinder-how-to-unlock-flying-in-legion

You need Warden rep for that.

That is hardly a reason to focus them since we are probably a year or more away from it being relevant.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
September 06 2016 20:11 GMT
#2030
My experience vs DHs this expansion is this: Boring as fuck to play against. Doesnt tell much though cuz this pvp just plain suck.
Iam 100% core pvper in my blood but i will probably just go pve.. LoL... I need to kill some time thats why i dont just quit this garbage game.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 06 2016 20:13 GMT
#2031
artifact power needed is pretty much exponential to your artifact level.
even now you can get to around 1 golden trait witout losing much of anytthing for your main spec.

the higher your are ahead of the intended curve from blizzard, the more you have to work for smaller and smaller rewards.


Farm a day and get half a level to 18 or something or get the first 12 or so levels for another weapon.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 06 2016 20:15 GMT
#2032
Versatility everywhere

I hate that stat.
WriterXiao8~~
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22447 Posts
September 06 2016 20:15 GMT
#2033
the normal number thrown around is 13 traits in your off specs since the 14th is where the costs begin to increase exponentially and the 14th costs more then the previous 13 combined.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
September 06 2016 20:51 GMT
#2034
On September 07 2016 04:54 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 22:06 Laurens wrote:
So when is the world first race starting? And is it still Method vs Paragon?

Paragon is death.

I think core people from Method went and made their own guild called Serenity? Method vs Serenity probably, but who knows? Method's been gutted, but by how much? And their biggest competition is dead so it's up in the air.

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 23:00 Gorsameth wrote:
On September 06 2016 22:53 NonY wrote:
Anyone know the point of getting revered with The Wardens? This guide recommends doing it in the to-do list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TiiI4huz4NXKfx7PGvvVTyP6xu8VaDNZ4-FEn69mOhc

On September 06 2016 22:22 Cyro wrote:
The lava ticks on you for 10 seconds and then expires

If it's only 10 sec duration then I guess you gotta wait until there's 25 lava patches, or about to be 25 lava patches, if that's even possible. Fully stacked I think it'll do 2.6M every three seconds so that's pretty rough. If it's as intended right now then that's the only thing I can think that Blizzard has in mind. Hold DPS and let the whole room fill with lava.

No idea why you want Warden rep

Nothing special from them
http://www.wowhead.com/faction=1894/the-wardens

just some 820 boots and a shoulder enchant that gives a chance to loot Blood of Sargeras but I have had 0 trouble getting enough of those.

http://www.wowhead.com/guides/broken-isles-pathfinder-how-to-unlock-flying-in-legion

You need Warden rep for that.

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 21:33 Foxxan wrote:
Wotlk was by far the best pvp experience hands down. From what i remember the burst WAS LOWER, in a semi-big way.
Felt like you could use skills in combat there over a longer period before you were dead/opponent dead.

Blizzard has said they will patch the game this time around, that it wont take long if a class is OP to get tuned down. A class is UP to get tuned up. Hopefully they look at general things to such as burst etc.
But i doubt they will actually make this a pvp experience for me to say "oh, now its actually good".

They REALLY suck at balance/and design.. REALLY REALLY SUCK.
Not just in WOW but in every fucking game out there.


Na, you had spell cleave and beast cleave which was stupid bursty. 2 lava bursts back to back with incinerate conflag, shit was intense.


Hello, can you by any chance tell me what happened to Paragon?
I'm sort of asking because they moved to my realm, Lightning's Blade back in early WoTLK and forever dethroned us as the top server guild (and most other world guilds ^^).

After living in their shadow for so long, looking up to them, I sort of want to know what became of them.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20340 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 21:25:28
September 06 2016 21:22 GMT
#2035
On September 07 2016 04:55 Godwrath wrote:
It's so fucking satisfying to screw stealth scheme shenanigans with DH. The class plays quite differently to the rest, more wildstar-esque, which makes it more enjoyable than anything else.


That it does

------

On September 07 2016 05:15 Gorsameth wrote:
the normal number thrown around is 13 traits in your off specs since the 14th is where the costs begin to increase exponentially and the 14th costs more then the previous 13 combined.


Rank 1-25 costs 71x more than rank 1-13 does. The exponential scaling is so harsh that you can keep your main artifact 1-2 ranks down and have a second one almost as good. The people that it really makes-or-breaks are already long-since abusing the infinite sources of artifact power like dungeonspam to make up for any lost ranks
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 06 2016 21:24 GMT
#2036
So then do you think it's more worthwhile to get two artifacts to 13 or just keep focusing on one?
It's your boy Guzma!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20340 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 21:28:15
September 06 2016 21:26 GMT
#2037
When singlular traits on your main artifact cost >100k AP each by rank 20 the 6.5k on an offspec is practically irrelevant. I already paid double that for a respec and i'm still beating some friends who have been negligent with the AP world quests
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 21:33:30
September 06 2016 21:27 GMT
#2038
1-13 is really cheap. The 13th point costs 1k, the 14th costs 6840. You can have all 3 on 13 thats no problem, but going further you really have to decide on one spec for now.

On September 07 2016 06:26 Cyro wrote:
When singlular traits on your main artifact cost >100k AP each by rank 20 the 6.5k on an offspec is practically irrelevant. I already paid double that for a respec and i'm still beating some friends who have been negligent with the AP world quests


Well yes, in months time. Im talking about now. When you need to reach the second golden trait asap for raids, 6k on an offspec is still 6k that you miss on the main spec, which is probably at least a day worth of farm if not more.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22447 Posts
September 06 2016 21:28 GMT
#2039
On September 07 2016 06:24 Requizen wrote:
So then do you think it's more worthwhile to get two artifacts to 13 or just keep focusing on one?

If you dont use them there is no point. you can easilly fill it up later if something changes.

If its a healer/tank offspec that you use for dungeons I would certainly get atleast 13 points in it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20340 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 21:36:37
September 06 2016 21:33 GMT
#2040
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"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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