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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 07 2016 04:33 GMT
#2061
I got some pretty insane shitty luck this week in mythics.

Did 7 mythics ( my group did Neltharion's lair when I was away ), and while it started okay, I managed to do Black Rook Hold, Eye of Azshara and Maw of Souls without having more than 2 bosses giving me something. Crazy.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
September 07 2016 04:37 GMT
#2062
Touch of the Void: the tentacles summoned by this trinket no longer scale past level 100.
Reduced the active effect potency of Heirloom trinkets acquired from Warlords of Draenor Mythic Dungeons.


The tentacles scaling past level 100 was a bug (trinket was 1-100), other thing is a nerf. I wonder how much of a nerf it was cause those things were pretty great.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 07 2016 05:14 GMT
#2063
Wanted to get that Spirit Beast moose from Stormheim. Thought I'd go over to his spawn point and log out so I could just camp there for the night... and he's up. Either his respawn timer is way shorter than people say it is or that's the luckiest rarespawn pet I've ever found on my Hunter lol.
It's your boy Guzma!
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-07 06:30:27
September 07 2016 06:25 GMT
#2064
Both loom trinkets nerfed, not that I'm surprised, OoV was third bis for sps at least. At least they fixed SoM finally after it being reported years ago.

On September 07 2016 06:33 Cyro wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
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Do note this isn't totally accurate. The timing + some specs have shit third golden, meaning you will take other traits first so having all golden ones will take like 27 for example. And the timing is pretty casual too, first week 16 traits when people have 19 already, and it will only get faster from here on with more AK levels.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
September 07 2016 07:58 GMT
#2065
On September 07 2016 10:30 Redox wrote:
I am impressed how everyone has such high item level. Or is it with crafting? Because I am still at 833 and have done all mythics, item world quests and an insane number of hc runs.

You are extremely unlucky then, i have been level 110 since 12 hours into launch and i got hardly any drops in heroic spam but when i went mythics i am not sitting at 841ilvl with a legendary to boot.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-07 10:02:16
September 07 2016 08:13 GMT
#2066
On September 07 2016 12:33 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
I am impressed how everyone has such high item level. Or is it with crafting? Because I am still at 833 and have done all mythics, item world quests and an insane number of hc runs.


Class hall items go to 840 and i think i have five available right now. Weapon is ~860+, 876 if you have godlike luck.

8-10 mythics give a ton of loot, heroics give loot every single run and get warforged or sockets quite a lot if you're spamming them.

Yeah they do not give loot every single run. I had a lot of hc and mythic runs without a single item dropping (not just no useful ones but none at all except blood). For the end of the day I had 4 or 5 in a row without a single item dropping so that I actually started to suspect loot for dungeons is capped if you run too many. Maybe it feels different to you because you do mythics in guild groups so that you have people sharing their loot with each other. I did all mythics and almost all hc with pugs. I have a single 845 and no 850 item now while doing 8 mythic and really a lot of random hc because I was addicted to collecting that healer queuing reward. :D

edit. Class hall items is legit point though, I did not upgrade anything to 840 because I am not sure if I still need those order resources and I am not big on doing those daily quests for order resources.

edit 2
Just got 3rd relic slot and realized how irrelevant loot is for now. You are so strong with 3rd relic that any content until raids/mythic+ should be absolutely trivial. So no point in spending resource on class hall set or whatever. Only reason good level might be relevant is so that random mythic groups accept you, especially as dd.
Off-season = best season
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 07 2016 12:00 GMT
#2067
So far as I've seen there's little point hoarding order resources though, as they are plentiful and I've not seen a big sink of them yet. Order hall research for 10k on a 10day/12 day timer is not taxing. Not sure how much the ilvl upgrades for followers are, but I've not seen a rush to get them geared either. I got 30k+ resources and I spent 15k upgrading set pieces and got my research and development running.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 07 2016 12:34 GMT
#2068
Did they take out Max camera control?
WriterXiao8~~
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21650 Posts
September 07 2016 12:38 GMT
#2069
On September 07 2016 21:34 Kipsate wrote:
Did they take out Max camera control?

/console cameraDistanceMaxFactor 2.6

Note that it resets when you log out. If your already zoomed out you don't have to reapply but you might want to get an addon that handles it if you frequently change your zoom level.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-07 12:41:27
September 07 2016 12:39 GMT
#2070
They took out the macro to where u can zoom out stupidly far but the one Gor linked a few pages back worked for me unless they patched that out now too?
On September 07 2016 21:00 daemir wrote:
So far as I've seen there's little point hoarding order resources though, as they are plentiful and I've not seen a big sink of them yet. Order hall research for 10k on a 10day/12 day timer is not taxing. Not sure how much the ilvl upgrades for followers are, but I've not seen a rush to get them geared either. I got 30k+ resources and I spent 15k upgrading set pieces and got my research and development running.

I had 10k then i did my 4th research piece 2 missions and i had 3k left! I also just unlocked the ability to buy the upgrades for the class gear to 840 with that but i can't afford so i need to re farm them. I suggest you always make sure you have a bank of like 10k+ that would be a good place to be i think. Obviously making workers as well costs resources.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 07 2016 12:41 GMT
#2071
Meh too bad, I liked the maxed out distance, also made for easier overview/raiding(I guess thats why they took it out).
WriterXiao8~~
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21650 Posts
September 07 2016 12:47 GMT
#2072
On September 07 2016 21:41 Kipsate wrote:
Meh too bad, I liked the maxed out distance, also made for easier overview/raiding(I guess thats why they took it out).

Originally they removed it entire but after much complaining the reduce (but still more then the UI allows) command above was added back in.

As for why, most an aesthetics thing. Zoom changes how things look and how big environmental details need to be to be noticed.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15664 Posts
September 07 2016 13:50 GMT
#2073
What's up with you casuals? First person or bust.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-07 14:39:50
September 07 2016 13:56 GMT
#2074
Yeah they do not give loot every single run. I had a lot of hc and mythic runs without a single item dropping (not just no useful ones but none at all except blood). For the end of the day I had 4 or 5 in a row without a single item dropping so that I actually started to suspect loot for dungeons is capped if you run too many. Maybe it feels different to you because you do mythics in guild groups so that you have people sharing their loot with each other


My friend has ran 50+ heroics and there seems to be no problem with loot for him

Lootsharing groups are the best. We ran 3-4 leathers by coincidence but it works out well

------

@zoom stuff - i think it's really silly. I was weirdly uncomfortable in 7.0 because of the zoom cap but i was not adjusting the zoom outside of the UI limits to my knowledge before that?? I had messed with console commands before for things like cool screenshots but i did not use them 99% of the time. Suddenly in 7.0 i could hardly even play the game without it feeling wrong for the first time in 11 years so i really feel like they screwed something up. Maybe the zoom was capped lower than normal, maybe the FOV or some other stuff with the camera was changed etc. A lot of people complained about issues in the beta, i wasn't doing anything new aside from experiencing new camera settings in the same old azeroth.

They also limited the zoom because they want the game to be played that way but they didn't make the bosses that much smaller, they didn't add clarity to the stuff that you need to be able to see so people are still kinda screwed there. In Wildstar for example, a big AOE oneshot cone coming out of a boss would be much less of an issue because you could see the affected area on the ground via telegraph and move out of the marked area before the attack hits. In WoW you have no way to get that information aside from looking at the orientation of the boss and this is very difficult to see when your face is jammed into the bosses feet/waist, it's much easier when you're zoomed out to be able to see more of their body.

So two major issues:

1; Physical sickness due to inadequate FOV+zoom, not a debate and should not exist - there is just no benefit to having camera settings that are objectively wrong. Some people are more sensitive to this than others but there are still clearly objectively wrong and objectively correct settings. Once that works - and only after - you can start the debate on the non-objective stuff, how you want your game to be seen etc. Can't stress enough how important this is because a camera that is bad enough will make even the best game in the world unplayable!

2; Basic fight interactions and mechanics that you just can't see well enough at low zoom, not fixed nearly well enough IMO. Some blizzard guys have commented that they would like to improve these, but i'l believe it when i see it and i think that they should fix this up before removing the solution to it (zooming out more so that you have more situational awareness even with large bosses and not-so-great communication of mechanics).
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 07 2016 16:55 GMT
#2075
Hm should I alt a DH or Paladin to tank with? I prefer Paladin in general but I hear Vengeance is really fun.
It's your boy Guzma!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
September 07 2016 17:43 GMT
#2076
Pally tanks does insane dps numbers, nerfed abit i believe this expansion on survivability compared to past times but the damage output you can get with them insane. I think its pretty much the same with DH though, they do alot of dps whilst tanking still, well this is what i pick up watching Fragnance, but he is the best dps'er in the world...of warcraft :D
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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
September 07 2016 18:00 GMT
#2077
Dh tank, pally healer?
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 07 2016 18:28 GMT
#2078
Never been a fan of Pally healing. I'd be playing my Resto Druid right now if she wasn't only 80. I want to see Legion content, was too stupid to level her before the expac launched -.-
It's your boy Guzma!
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
September 07 2016 19:03 GMT
#2079
Holy Paladin should be a bit different now that you are required to sit close to your intended targets in order to heal them.

Feels like they will be much better suited to focus target healing rather then raid healing, also they might suffer in high mobility fights.

However it does feel very badass that you're healing with a mighty 2h mace.

I think I'd recommend a DH tank for offespec.

I played a bit on my Havoc DH and despite doing pulls of up to 5 mobs the aoe it does is insane and allows me to heal right back up.

I imagine the tank DH will probably be just as mobile but display even better sturdiness and ability to draw even more massive packs.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
September 07 2016 19:24 GMT
#2080
Holy paladins are not required to sit close to the targets though with some talents picked.
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