On October 26 2014 06:47 Cricketer12 wrote: i believe that someone said something about calm before the storm btw this was a pretty fun game in an insanely good finals, very few of those in GSL but this was easily one of the best if not the best, at least in games, if not in story
You know what, I didn't watch korean starcraft at the time and missed it. I repeatedly saw that it was the best finals of all time and kinda dismissed it, because I thought it was just nostalgia talking and the games must be quite uninteresting by modern standards.
After reading jjakji's article, I watched game 4.
Then I watched game 1.
Then I watched the series.
I did not regret any second of it !!!
Oh yeah!! This was the first (or second) GSL finals that I saw and I was hooked!!!
(and of course, I'm "stuck" watching now too)
the first full GSL i really paid close attention to was Mvp beating Squirtle....though i went back and found out about all the shit in GSL that happened prior (MC Nestea and Mvp killing everyone, HuK doing well, jjakji v leenock, polt v mma, MKP v Mvp Nestea v Foxer etc)
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?) open season 3 was MC vs rain (that was my first GSL season)
oh THOSE open seasons. Yes 3 was MC v RAin Fruitdealer and Nestea took the first 2 Mvp took the fourth i think (San's worst tournament) and MC again in 5 (one of San's best tournaments)
Fruitdealer won season one not Nestea
"Fruitdealer and Nestea took the first 2" where in that statement does it say that i say nestea took the first not fruitdealer? temp....at times i feel like you are there just to troll me
On October 26 2014 06:59 y0su wrote: [quote] Oh yeah!! This was the first (or second) GSL finals that I saw and I was hooked!!!
(and of course, I'm "stuck" watching now too)
the first full GSL i really paid close attention to was Mvp beating Squirtle....though i went back and found out about all the shit in GSL that happened prior (MC Nestea and Mvp killing everyone, HuK doing well, jjakji v leenock, polt v mma, MKP v Mvp Nestea v Foxer etc)
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?)
Weren't the open seasons 2010?
jinro, artosis, idra, torch
Before my time
Jinro was a fantastic TL Terran who made semis of GSL TWICE no one else has made it to semis even once, HuK and NaNiwa were close though...
Idra was EG zerg from BW (terran at the time though) was really good..and then he became shit, and BM'd his way to retirement
Artosis was the father of the artosis pylon, was wrecked in WCG 2005, but tried his luck in SC2 only to reallize he was a better caster than player...
On October 26 2014 06:49 [PkF] Wire wrote: [quote]
You know what, I didn't watch korean starcraft at the time and missed it. I repeatedly saw that it was the best finals of all time and kinda dismissed it, because I thought it was just nostalgia talking and the games must be quite uninteresting by modern standards.
After reading jjakji's article, I watched game 4.
Then I watched game 1.
Then I watched the series.
I did not regret any second of it !!!
Oh yeah!! This was the first (or second) GSL finals that I saw and I was hooked!!!
(and of course, I'm "stuck" watching now too)
the first full GSL i really paid close attention to was Mvp beating Squirtle....though i went back and found out about all the shit in GSL that happened prior (MC Nestea and Mvp killing everyone, HuK doing well, jjakji v leenock, polt v mma, MKP v Mvp Nestea v Foxer etc)
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?) open season 3 was MC vs rain (that was my first GSL season)
oh THOSE open seasons. Yes 3 was MC v RAin Fruitdealer and Nestea took the first 2 Mvp took the fourth i think (San's worst tournament) and MC again in 5 (one of San's best tournaments)
Fruitdealer won season one not Nestea
"Fruitdealer and Nestea took the first 2" where in that statement does it say that i say nestea took the first not fruitdealer? temp....at times i feel like you are there just to troll me
Lack of punctuation and me being on my phone made me miss it
On October 26 2014 07:02 Cricketer12 wrote: [quote] the first full GSL i really paid close attention to was Mvp beating Squirtle....though i went back and found out about all the shit in GSL that happened prior (MC Nestea and Mvp killing everyone, HuK doing well, jjakji v leenock, polt v mma, MKP v Mvp Nestea v Foxer etc)
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?)
Weren't the open seasons 2010?
jinro, artosis, idra, torch
Before my time
dont be humble
Not kidding.. I didn't even know there was a pro scene until several months AFTER I registered in 2011
I was watching Liquid_Jinro reach GSL semi finals before I realized TL net existed...
On October 26 2014 06:59 y0su wrote: [quote] Oh yeah!! This was the first (or second) GSL finals that I saw and I was hooked!!!
(and of course, I'm "stuck" watching now too)
the first full GSL i really paid close attention to was Mvp beating Squirtle....though i went back and found out about all the shit in GSL that happened prior (MC Nestea and Mvp killing everyone, HuK doing well, jjakji v leenock, polt v mma, MKP v Mvp Nestea v Foxer etc)
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?)
Weren't the open seasons 2010?
jinro, artosis, idra, torch
Before my time
Jinro was a fantastic TL Terran who made semis of GSL TWICE no one else has made it to semis even once, HuK and NaNiwa were close though...
Idra was EG zerg from BW (terran at the time though) was really good..and then he became shit, and BM'd his way to retirement
Artosis was the father of the artosis pylon, wrecked in WCG 2005, but tried his luck in SC2 only to reallize he was a better caster than player...
Torch I dont remember....
Jinro's performances were fantastic but came at a time the game was being figured out. NaNiwa's runs are, if you ask me, the most amazing things ever done by a foreigner in KR. Two ro8 in a row with impressive confidence against extremely strong opponents. He could really have won a GSL at that time. Sadly with the way WCS works now there is very little hope a foreigner does well in WCS KR anymore (Scarlett if WCS KR awards a lot more points maybe ?).
On October 26 2014 06:49 [PkF] Wire wrote: [quote]
You know what, I didn't watch korean starcraft at the time and missed it. I repeatedly saw that it was the best finals of all time and kinda dismissed it, because I thought it was just nostalgia talking and the games must be quite uninteresting by modern standards.
After reading jjakji's article, I watched game 4.
Then I watched game 1.
Then I watched the series.
I did not regret any second of it !!!
Oh yeah!! This was the first (or second) GSL finals that I saw and I was hooked!!!
(and of course, I'm "stuck" watching now too)
the first full GSL i really paid close attention to was Mvp beating Squirtle....though i went back and found out about all the shit in GSL that happened prior (MC Nestea and Mvp killing everyone, HuK doing well, jjakji v leenock, polt v mma, MKP v Mvp Nestea v Foxer etc)
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?) open season 3 was MC vs rain (that was my first GSL season)
oh THOSE open seasons. Yes 3 was MC v RAin Fruitdealer and Nestea took the first 2 Mvp took the fourth i think (San's worst tournament) and MC again in 5 (one of San's best tournaments)
Fruitdealer won season one not Nestea
"Fruitdealer and Nestea took the first 2" where in that statement does it say that i say nestea took the first not fruitdealer? temp....at times i feel like you are there just to troll me
scientist are still trying to figure out how 2 Z won in that state of the game
On October 26 2014 06:59 y0su wrote: [quote] Oh yeah!! This was the first (or second) GSL finals that I saw and I was hooked!!!
(and of course, I'm "stuck" watching now too)
the first full GSL i really paid close attention to was Mvp beating Squirtle....though i went back and found out about all the shit in GSL that happened prior (MC Nestea and Mvp killing everyone, HuK doing well, jjakji v leenock, polt v mma, MKP v Mvp Nestea v Foxer etc)
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?) open season 3 was MC vs rain (that was my first GSL season)
oh THOSE open seasons. Yes 3 was MC v RAin Fruitdealer and Nestea took the first 2 Mvp took the fourth i think (San's worst tournament) and MC again in 5 (one of San's best tournaments)
Fruitdealer won season one not Nestea
"Fruitdealer and Nestea took the first 2" where in that statement does it say that i say nestea took the first not fruitdealer? temp....at times i feel like you are there just to troll me
scientist are still trying to figure out how 2 Z won in that state of the game
The game was actually Zerg favored and nobody knew how?
On October 26 2014 07:02 Cricketer12 wrote: [quote] the first full GSL i really paid close attention to was Mvp beating Squirtle....though i went back and found out about all the shit in GSL that happened prior (MC Nestea and Mvp killing everyone, HuK doing well, jjakji v leenock, polt v mma, MKP v Mvp Nestea v Foxer etc)
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?)
Weren't the open seasons 2010?
jinro, artosis, idra, torch
Before my time
Jinro was a fantastic TL Terran who made semis of GSL TWICE no one else has made it to semis even once, HuK and NaNiwa were close though...
Idra was EG zerg from BW (terran at the time though) was really good..and then he became shit, and BM'd his way to retirement
Artosis was the father of the artosis pylon, wrecked in WCG 2005, but tried his luck in SC2 only to reallize he was a better caster than player...
Torch I dont remember....
Jinro's performances were fantastic but came at a time the game was being figured out. NaNiwa's runs are, if you ask me, the most amazing things ever done by a foreigner in KR. Two ro8 in a row with impressive confidence against extremely strong opponents. He could really have won a GSL at that time. Sadly with the way WCS works now there is very little hope a foreigner does well in WCS KR anymore (Scarlett if WCS KR awards a lot more points maybe ?).
if she stays a year maybe... but her current ZvT needs a lot of work
On October 26 2014 07:02 Cricketer12 wrote: [quote] the first full GSL i really paid close attention to was Mvp beating Squirtle....though i went back and found out about all the shit in GSL that happened prior (MC Nestea and Mvp killing everyone, HuK doing well, jjakji v leenock, polt v mma, MKP v Mvp Nestea v Foxer etc)
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?)
Weren't the open seasons 2010?
jinro, artosis, idra, torch
Before my time
Jinro was a fantastic TL Terran who made semis of GSL TWICE no one else has made it to semis even once, HuK and NaNiwa were close though...
Idra was EG zerg from BW (terran at the time though) was really good..and then he became shit, and BM'd his way to retirement
Artosis was the father of the artosis pylon, wrecked in WCG 2005, but tried his luck in SC2 only to reallize he was a better caster than player...
Torch I dont remember....
Jinro's performances were fantastic but came at a time the game was being figured out. NaNiwa's runs are, if you ask me, the most amazing things ever done by a foreigner in KR. Two ro8 in a row with impressive confidence against extremely strong opponents. He could really have won a GSL at that time. Sadly with the way WCS works now there is very little hope a foreigner does well in WCS KR anymore (Scarlett if WCS KR awards a lot more points maybe ?).
HuK could have gone farther...but he joined EG Steph could have won easy..but he went to late + he joined EG Scarlett can because she hasnt joined EG yet
On October 26 2014 07:02 Cricketer12 wrote: [quote] the first full GSL i really paid close attention to was Mvp beating Squirtle....though i went back and found out about all the shit in GSL that happened prior (MC Nestea and Mvp killing everyone, HuK doing well, jjakji v leenock, polt v mma, MKP v Mvp Nestea v Foxer etc)
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?) open season 3 was MC vs rain (that was my first GSL season)
oh THOSE open seasons. Yes 3 was MC v RAin Fruitdealer and Nestea took the first 2 Mvp took the fourth i think (San's worst tournament) and MC again in 5 (one of San's best tournaments)
Fruitdealer won season one not Nestea
"Fruitdealer and Nestea took the first 2" where in that statement does it say that i say nestea took the first not fruitdealer? temp....at times i feel like you are there just to troll me
scientist are still trying to figure out how 2 Z won in that state of the game
The game was actually Zerg favored and nobody knew how?
actually BL Infestor wasnt really a thing...Terran was terrifyingly broken back then (gomtvt)...MARAUDER IS BULLSHIT...sorry this is 2014 WIDOW MINES ARE BULLSHIT.....
On October 26 2014 07:02 Cricketer12 wrote: [quote] the first full GSL i really paid close attention to was Mvp beating Squirtle....though i went back and found out about all the shit in GSL that happened prior (MC Nestea and Mvp killing everyone, HuK doing well, jjakji v leenock, polt v mma, MKP v Mvp Nestea v Foxer etc)
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?) open season 3 was MC vs rain (that was my first GSL season)
oh THOSE open seasons. Yes 3 was MC v RAin Fruitdealer and Nestea took the first 2 Mvp took the fourth i think (San's worst tournament) and MC again in 5 (one of San's best tournaments)
Fruitdealer won season one not Nestea
"Fruitdealer and Nestea took the first 2" where in that statement does it say that i say nestea took the first not fruitdealer? temp....at times i feel like you are there just to troll me
scientist are still trying to figure out how 2 Z won in that state of the game
The game was actually Zerg favored and nobody knew how?
It usually is... but it only counts if they can play macro
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?)
Weren't the open seasons 2010?
jinro, artosis, idra, torch
Before my time
Jinro was a fantastic TL Terran who made semis of GSL TWICE no one else has made it to semis even once, HuK and NaNiwa were close though...
Idra was EG zerg from BW (terran at the time though) was really good..and then he became shit, and BM'd his way to retirement
Artosis was the father of the artosis pylon, wrecked in WCG 2005, but tried his luck in SC2 only to reallize he was a better caster than player...
Torch I dont remember....
Jinro's performances were fantastic but came at a time the game was being figured out. NaNiwa's runs are, if you ask me, the most amazing things ever done by a foreigner in KR. Two ro8 in a row with impressive confidence against extremely strong opponents. He could really have won a GSL at that time. Sadly with the way WCS works now there is very little hope a foreigner does well in WCS KR anymore (Scarlett if WCS KR awards a lot more points maybe ?).
HuK could have gone farther...but he joined EG Steph could have won easy..but he went to late + he joined EG Scarlett could because she hasnt joined EG yet
Actually now that it's mentioned I do think I saw Mvp vs Squirtle (that was open season 3 right?) I still think I liked jjakji leenock because of the TvZ
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?)
Weren't the open seasons 2010?
jinro, artosis, idra, torch
Before my time
Jinro was a fantastic TL Terran who made semis of GSL TWICE no one else has made it to semis even once, HuK and NaNiwa were close though...
Idra was EG zerg from BW (terran at the time though) was really good..and then he became shit, and BM'd his way to retirement
Artosis was the father of the artosis pylon, wrecked in WCG 2005, but tried his luck in SC2 only to reallize he was a better caster than player...
Torch I dont remember....
Jinro's performances were fantastic but came at a time the game was being figured out. NaNiwa's runs are, if you ask me, the most amazing things ever done by a foreigner in KR. Two ro8 in a row with impressive confidence against extremely strong opponents. He could really have won a GSL at that time. Sadly with the way WCS works now there is very little hope a foreigner does well in WCS KR anymore (Scarlett if WCS KR awards a lot more points maybe ?).
HuK could have gone farther...but he joined EG Steph could have won easy..but he went to late + he joined EG Scarlett could because she hasnt joined EG yet
Stephano could certainly have gone far, but "won easy" ? His different tries at a GSL run all showed he was quite prone to getting killed by someone who did his homework (vs Flying, vs Bogus). I'm not sure he would have done that well in those preparation-heavy tournaments compared to someone like NaNiwa who was a build order freak
On October 26 2014 07:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: [quote]
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?)
Weren't the open seasons 2010?
jinro, artosis, idra, torch
Before my time
Jinro was a fantastic TL Terran who made semis of GSL TWICE no one else has made it to semis even once, HuK and NaNiwa were close though...
Idra was EG zerg from BW (terran at the time though) was really good..and then he became shit, and BM'd his way to retirement
Artosis was the father of the artosis pylon, wrecked in WCG 2005, but tried his luck in SC2 only to reallize he was a better caster than player...
Torch I dont remember....
Jinro's performances were fantastic but came at a time the game was being figured out. NaNiwa's runs are, if you ask me, the most amazing things ever done by a foreigner in KR. Two ro8 in a row with impressive confidence against extremely strong opponents. He could really have won a GSL at that time. Sadly with the way WCS works now there is very little hope a foreigner does well in WCS KR anymore (Scarlett if WCS KR awards a lot more points maybe ?).
HuK could have gone farther...but he joined EG Steph could have won easy..but he went to late + he joined EG Scarlett could because she hasnt joined EG yet
your EG passion is burning
I used to be a huge EG fan, basically because HuK is on EG...now EG is but a shell of its former self...its basically Jaedong..and that one canadian guy...whats his name again? ah who cares he loses in ro16/32 anyways...
On October 26 2014 07:22 IntoTheheart wrote: You know what was bullshit?
MAURADERS NOT HAVING STIM IN THE CAMPAIGN WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!
meh it was fine...i just went marine medic/mass tank is almost every level and wrecked hardcore
most brutal champs conisder hardest mission to be Welcome to the Jungle, but if you use marine medic, its one of the easiest levels in the game, i find the Path of Destruction? level the hardest (wraith level)..all in and the tank mission are really tough as well...
On October 26 2014 07:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: [quote]
Nah, Mvp vs Squirtle is 2012 season 2.
correct is was DRG v Genius Mvp v Squirtle Seed v MC Life v Mvp ....sniper v hyun....
sorry, I was talking about the "open" seasons (2011?)
Weren't the open seasons 2010?
jinro, artosis, idra, torch
Before my time
Jinro was a fantastic TL Terran who made semis of GSL TWICE no one else has made it to semis even once, HuK and NaNiwa were close though...
Idra was EG zerg from BW (terran at the time though) was really good..and then he became shit, and BM'd his way to retirement
Artosis was the father of the artosis pylon, wrecked in WCG 2005, but tried his luck in SC2 only to reallize he was a better caster than player...
Torch I dont remember....
Jinro's performances were fantastic but came at a time the game was being figured out. NaNiwa's runs are, if you ask me, the most amazing things ever done by a foreigner in KR. Two ro8 in a row with impressive confidence against extremely strong opponents. He could really have won a GSL at that time. Sadly with the way WCS works now there is very little hope a foreigner does well in WCS KR anymore (Scarlett if WCS KR awards a lot more points maybe ?).
HuK could have gone farther...but he joined EG Steph could have won easy..but he went to late + he joined EG Scarlett could because she hasnt joined EG yet
Stephano could certainly have gone far, but "won easy" ? His different tries at a GSL run all showed he was quite prone to getting killed by someone who did his homework (vs Flying, vs Bogus). I'm not sure he would have done that well in those preparation-heavy tournaments compared to someone like NaNiwa who was a build order freak
steph went once and was put in the hardest ro32 group ever (i think only Creator DRG Mvp was as hard) DongRaeGu, Hack, INnoVation, Stephano...can you blame him for going 2-4 vs inno? that means he as good as soO...not that bad
On October 26 2014 07:22 IntoTheheart wrote: You know what was bullshit?
MAURADERS NOT HAVING STIM IN THE CAMPAIGN WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!
meh it was fine...i just went marine medic/mass tank is almost every level and wrecked hardcore
most brutal champs conisder hardest mission to be Welcome to the Jungle, but if you use marine medic, its one of the easiest levels in the game, i find the Path of Destruction? level the hardest (wraith level)..all in and the tank mission are really tough as well...
Is it the Odin level ? The only mission I found REALLY tough was the one with the Odin. Seems like you can trivialize it with good choice of units, but I never seemed to have the units needed to make this mission a piece of cake.
EPT
Nestea v Foxer etc)
!!!
