I dont play hearthstone(looks pretty sweet though I might download it), I come from the league of legends, but I am here to inform you guys about a streamer(those you prob dont know because I will explain below) named gullin15.
Gullin15 is lie, cheat and steal and is the EXACT same person in Hearthstone.
He currently is using a view-botter to boost his viewers so he can get popular (over 1000+).
-In the previous time he has boosted his LoL from silver>challenger -he lies about his chess skills -he just lies about everything, this man averaged 20 viewers just a few weeks ago.(if you look at his VOD's he has 100 viewers max one day over 5 months ago. He stopped streaming after LoL drama. He recently came back 2-3 weeks ago.) -his viewer to follower count if ridiculous. 4k followers 3k viewers? That is not even possible.
Now he has 2000. EDIT: 3000, amazing you can gain 1000 viewers in 5 days.
Proof:
a) He blacklists the word bot, report, view, and ban in his chats channel
He appears on this list about 10x+ not going to link them all, but you can find them yourself.
If you go into his chat you will see at time 1500 viewers, 20 people in chat. Even at 2k viewers his chat is so slow compared to anyone else.
EDIT: I made this post when he had 1.5k viewers last week thursday. He is at 3000 now. I hope liquid hearth wont support his stream in the un-featured section.
His stream is www.twitch.tv/gullin15 please put a report into his channel, so we can get rid of this person from any gaming community! You guys seem to have a good one here, I would hate it to be tarnished by someone like him!
Thank you!
edit: new reddit threads have sprung up. Please support and report!
I knew there was something strange with this streamer. I have watched his stream and his chat is empty and also he is not a very good player at all so I couldn't figure out why he has so many viewers.
Twitch chat has been really buggy the last week or so, a lot of streamers have been having this 'dead chat'. So take chat activity with a pinch of NaCl.
I have been streaming everyday for about 4-5 months now.
This guys def came out of nowhere, I messaged him on twitch that his channel was suspicious(just to inquire because maybe someone was targeting him and he didnt know).
He banned me in his chat(before even entering it LOL) unfollowed me on twitter+blocked me on twitter.
Very odd. If he had some sick-nerd baller skills like reynad that would make sense. But I do better in arena's than him. and i BLOW at arena's.
On February 11 2014 00:03 Sutty wrote: And here I was assuming that he was getting more views than people like Strife due to his fantastic personality and equally good skill at the game...
I watched him for 2 minutes few days back. He was playing arena vs a hunter who had a secret up. "I can't cast harvest golem because if his secret is snipe. The harvest golem death rattle doesn't trigger if it gets hit by snipe." I lolled.
On February 11 2014 06:28 Defrag wrote: You are only giving him attention, people might check out his stream out of curiosity now.
Just report this case to Twitch, I'm pretty sure they will just ban him.
We need to give attention if we can ban him. There are 2 reddit thread about him right now. It's pretty obvious and obnoxious right now!
On February 11 2014 06:39 Ovid wrote: Never heard of the guy.
Thats because he has 100-200 real viewers at any given time unless a major stream goes offline and gets the viewers. That is what he is doing right now. he bots really hard so he gets #2 spot so he gets any offline flow aka waits for kripp to go offline
On February 11 2014 06:39 Ovid wrote: Never heard of the guy.
Thats because he has 100-200 real viewers at any given time unless a major stream goes offline and gets the viewers. That is what he is doing right now. he bots really hard so he gets #2 spot so he gets any offline flow aka waits for kripp to go offline
I'm not familiar with how streaming works, what's the negative impact of what he's doing? :S
On February 11 2014 06:28 Defrag wrote: You are only giving him attention, people might check out his stream out of curiosity now.
Just report this case to Twitch, I'm pretty sure they will just ban him.
We need to give attention if we can ban him. There are 2 reddit thread about him right now. It's pretty obvious and obnoxious right now!
On February 11 2014 06:39 Ovid wrote: Never heard of the guy.
Thats because he has 100-200 real viewers at any given time unless a major stream goes offline and gets the viewers. That is what he is doing right now. he bots really hard so he gets #2 spot so he gets any offline flow aka waits for kripp to go offline
I'm not familiar with how streaming works, what's the negative impact of what he's doing? :S
When looking up HS (or any other game) streams on Twitch they will be listed by their viewer number. So if you are able to boost your viewer count from something like 10 to ~1500 or even 3000 you will more often than not be amongst the top5 or even top3 most viewed HS streams.
People are WAY more likely to notice your stream then, giving him viewers for free even though he has done nothing for it except botting his viewcount.
On February 11 2014 06:28 Defrag wrote: You are only giving him attention, people might check out his stream out of curiosity now.
Just report this case to Twitch, I'm pretty sure they will just ban him.
We need to give attention if we can ban him. There are 2 reddit thread about him right now. It's pretty obvious and obnoxious right now!
On February 11 2014 06:39 Ovid wrote: Never heard of the guy.
Thats because he has 100-200 real viewers at any given time unless a major stream goes offline and gets the viewers. That is what he is doing right now. he bots really hard so he gets #2 spot so he gets any offline flow aka waits for kripp to go offline
I'm not familiar with how streaming works, what's the negative impact of what he's doing? :S
1) he cheats the system. Instead of starting at 20 viewers he starts at 2000. It if someone was waiting in line of a new product at a store and he walked up to the front not waiting in line for 100 hours.
2) He steals viewers from other viewers. The way twitch works, whoever is 1-2-3 people will click on those streams before any. They like to see what attracts so many viewers
On February 11 2014 06:28 Defrag wrote: You are only giving him attention, people might check out his stream out of curiosity now.
Just report this case to Twitch, I'm pretty sure they will just ban him.
We need to give attention if we can ban him. There are 2 reddit thread about him right now. It's pretty obvious and obnoxious right now!
On February 11 2014 06:39 Ovid wrote: Never heard of the guy.
Thats because he has 100-200 real viewers at any given time unless a major stream goes offline and gets the viewers. That is what he is doing right now. he bots really hard so he gets #2 spot so he gets any offline flow aka waits for kripp to go offline
I'm not familiar with how streaming works, what's the negative impact of what he's doing? :S
When looking up HS (or any other game) streams on Twitch they will be listed by their viewer number. So if you are able to boost your viewer count from something like 10 to ~1500 or even 3000 you will more often than not be amongst the top5 or even top3 most viewed HS streams.
People are WAY more likely to notice your stream then, giving him viewers for free even though he has done nothing for it except botting his viewcount.
If people notice his stream then the idea is that they'll stay behind and keep watching right? And thereby he snatches viewers from other streamers, lowering their viewer count and taking some of their ad revenue money?
On February 11 2014 06:28 Defrag wrote: You are only giving him attention, people might check out his stream out of curiosity now.
Just report this case to Twitch, I'm pretty sure they will just ban him.
We need to give attention if we can ban him. There are 2 reddit thread about him right now. It's pretty obvious and obnoxious right now!
On February 11 2014 06:39 Ovid wrote: Never heard of the guy.
Thats because he has 100-200 real viewers at any given time unless a major stream goes offline and gets the viewers. That is what he is doing right now. he bots really hard so he gets #2 spot so he gets any offline flow aka waits for kripp to go offline
I'm not familiar with how streaming works, what's the negative impact of what he's doing? :S
1) he cheats the system. Instead of starting at 20 viewers he starts at 2000. It if someone was waiting in line of a new product at a store and he walked up to the front not waiting in line for 100 hours.
2) He steals viewers from other viewers. The way twitch works, whoever is 1-2-3 people will click on those streams before any. They like to see what attracts so many viewers
No he doesnt get ads $ from what I know, but hes gaining popularity but faking his popularity so if not caught in the long run he will be making ad $. I dont understand why this is hard for you to understand...
On February 11 2014 07:19 thetruthspreader wrote: No he doesnt get ads $ from what I know, but hes gaining popularity but faking his popularity so if not caught in the long run he will be making ad $. I dont understand why this is hard for you to understand...
He's also gaining popularity by the action of you putting it onto LiquidHearth. I didn't know who this person was until just now. Also I can't speak for the rest of the rest of the watchers on Twitch, but if someone's content isn't great, I wouldn't continue to watch it regardless of how many other viewers that channel has.
On February 11 2014 07:23 thetruthspreader wrote: No I am raising awareness. People already know he bots, now its up to twitch admins to get rid of him. Sooner or later.
I rather sooner.
Richard branson had a quote about no publicity being bad publicity.
On February 11 2014 07:23 thetruthspreader wrote: No I am raising awareness. People already know he bots, now its up to twitch admins to get rid of him. Sooner or later.
I rather sooner.
Richard branson had a quote about no publicity being bad publicity.
Except his publicity was already coming from the fact that he had a massive amount of viewers on twitch, so I don't understand why people are calling out thetruthspreader for pointing out he is botting the viewers.
Viewer counts affects one more thing : It decides whether your stream is listed in the mobile twitch client or not. I've never even seen the Gullin15 dude before I saw him one night when I was streaming twitch on my phone, and his name appeared near to the top of the list (ahead of more deserving players IMO). I actually watched it for 5 minutes before I realized what a horrible player he was. But for newer players its harder to realize that, and they might continue watching his stream, thereby giving him undeserved viewers.
I've seen him at the top with that dumb push up stuff thing. I just saw that and couldn't take him seriously. Thanks for letting me know my inititial impression was correct.
So does he do like, say, do one pushup for each win he gets during an arena run? Because from the sounds of his skill level, he's not getting much of a workout...
On February 11 2014 06:28 Defrag wrote: You are only giving him attention, people might check out his stream out of curiosity now.
Just report this case to Twitch, I'm pretty sure they will just ban him.
We need to give attention if we can ban him. There are 2 reddit thread about him right now. It's pretty obvious and obnoxious right now!
On February 11 2014 06:39 Ovid wrote: Never heard of the guy.
Thats because he has 100-200 real viewers at any given time unless a major stream goes offline and gets the viewers. That is what he is doing right now. he bots really hard so he gets #2 spot so he gets any offline flow aka waits for kripp to go offline
I'm not familiar with how streaming works, what's the negative impact of what he's doing? :S
When looking up HS (or any other game) streams on Twitch they will be listed by their viewer number. So if you are able to boost your viewer count from something like 10 to ~1500 or even 3000 you will more often than not be amongst the top5 or even top3 most viewed HS streams.
People are WAY more likely to notice your stream then, giving him viewers for free even though he has done nothing for it except botting his viewcount.
If people notice his stream then the idea is that they'll stay behind and keep watching right? And thereby he snatches viewers from other streamers, lowering their viewer count and taking some of their ad revenue money?
Is that more or less why it's wrong?
As said somewhere already, it's more that he is gaining popularity without working for it. I don't know if he is making money from it just yet, but he certainly could at some point.
He is making himself look imporant/good even though he sucks. That's bad enough for me. T_T
Out of curiosity, I just checked out his stream while he had 2k viewers. Clicked a bunch of the usernames in the user list, they all seemed to be legit Twitch channels. The chat was moving really fast, too. So if he was using a bot to boost his numbers, it seems he might not be anymore.
Who in their right mind (thinking of LH members) would keep watching a stream by a guy like that?
True, you might give him a try because he has got so many viewers apparantly, but you would just laugh and look for another stream as soon as you see him grossly missplay or spout nonsense.
Cheaters be cheatin, wont bring him any skill in HS or a good reputation in the community.
I tuned into his stream once after Kripp stopped early when he was sick last week, simply because he had the 2nd most viewers (probably mostly bots). I couldn't stand to watch for more than a few minutes - he was an awful player, plus gross and obnoxious. Not sure he will thrive even with an artificially inflated view count, but I'll still report him and hope he gets banned. Stealing views from more deserving streamers is not cool.
I have noticed the guy, suddenly in the hearthstone game section, quite high up. Had more views then ellohime. But dunno if he is view botting. Hearthstone can make your viewbase skyrocket. Just look at every popular Hearthstone streamer. They didnt have those views when they were playing other games.
Anyways, I'm sure twitch keeps an eye on things like that.
On February 11 2014 17:43 Cel.erity wrote: Out of curiosity, I just checked out his stream while he had 2k viewers. Clicked a bunch of the usernames in the user list, they all seemed to be legit Twitch channels. The chat was moving really fast, too. So if he was using a bot to boost his numbers, it seems he might not be anymore.
That is a 100% not true. (only true when he was botting 2k+ to get #2 spot and kripp went offline and he got overflow of viewers which is what he is aiming to do. This is why I made this post, so we can stop this from happening!)
I have screenshots(posting later) of his viewer count and chat. 100 people in chat, 1500+ "viewers" Also if you were watching last night you would notice his viewer count kept going up and down because his bots were not working properly.
There was an admin in channel and he wrote "this is too funny"
Anyways, I'm sure twitch keeps an eye on things like that.
I don't know if he is doing what he's accused of or not.. but i do think that if bots are generating add impressions ($), it's probably a crime and not just some thing that twitch doesn't like...
Yeah, right now he has 2036 viewers, with a fairly active chat. I would guess from my experience from other streamers that a 2000+ viewer count would yield a much higher chat volume that he currently has. It isn't concrete evidence, but it sure seems to fit the accusations that perhaps he really only has 36 real viewers and is botting that 2000.
Not to mention, the stream is much less entertaining than some of the alternatives, I don't think 2000+ viewers would rather watch this stream over Kripp who is currently online as of this post.
I bet he has his stream embedded on some other site with a lot of traffic, my guildmaster in wow tried to fool himself doing this trick but it didn't take long before some admin joined the chat and told him to remove it or he would be banned, just report the stream on twitch i guess and soon it will be fixed.
ps. when i mentioned the chat was kind of quiet i got insta perm banned...........
Haha, I've skipped his stream purely because I believe that people with number in their name are ********. Goes back from my dota1 days when we used to host games and instantly kick anyone with numbers in their name, and every 5% of the times we decided to not do it we were proven wrong because they were, in fact, asshats.
That being said I do watch Reynad, but only after hearing of his budget warrior legend deck which made him legit in my eyes.
But I digress. Good catch, thanks for spreading the information despite not actually playing the games. It's appreciated.
Even though I think you're right, you probably shouldn't cite that bot as evidence. It gets a ton of false positives, possibly even more than legitimate detections.
True, but he is consistently on there EVERY time he turns on his stream.
The twitter thing can be up and down, but if someone is one there 100% of the time, its pretty much guaranteed. It just a simple script that read viewers = % of people in chat
he has 20-30 with 1000+
dont need a detector for that, but a visual is nice for the lazy.
This guy is still streaming with 2500+ viewers. It seems he only has around 500 real viewers upon close inspection at the viewer list. His mods constantly ban anyone mentioning his viewer count and chooses to ignore questions directed at it. Why hasn't something been done about this already when there is solid evidence?
I had the misfortune of tuning into his stream for 2 minutes. Did a horrible misplay with Lifetapping before Soulfiring. Not sure how he can play such an auto pilot deck so badly.
Is there any legitimate reason why Twitch mods have not taken action against him yet? What he's doing is obviously not acceptable.
Oh ya, I mentioned, "viewer ***" on his channel and got perm banned withing 2 seconds. This guys vigilance on his own chat is more impressive than his Hearthstone plays, hue hue hue.
I played a game of Dota 2 with Gullin. He was jungling Naix, stayed there the entire game and refused to help the team for any reason. We ended up falling way behind and when he finally left the jungle at like 30 minutes he tried to pin the loss on us.
I snagged a really great match from one of his Arena runs a month or so back. Had to cut it down from 20 minutes because he takes so long to make simple turns.
He's got a history of being a fuck on Twitch. His channel has been flagged before. I kind of doubt he'll get banned for viewbotting, though. He's been doing it for so long. I think his channel has a history of getting reported so often that Twitch has simply decided to ignore it.
On March 04 2014 09:01 Phasoms wrote: I snagged a really great match from one of his Arena runs a month or so back. Had to cut it down from 20 minutes because he takes so long to make simple turns.
He's got a history of being a fuck on Twitch. His channel has been flagged before. I kind of doubt he'll get banned for viewbotting, though. He's been doing it for so long. I think his channel has a history of getting reported so often that Twitch has simply decided to ignore it.
Wow, that was painful to watch, but the ending was well worth it.
On March 04 2014 19:05 Nekovivie wrote: I checked this guys stream out for a few mins to see what the fuss was about. God damn, he was so full of himself.
Not to mention he is distinctly average at the game at best.
On March 04 2014 19:05 Nekovivie wrote: I checked this guys stream out for a few mins to see what the fuss was about. God damn, he was so full of himself.
Not to mention he is distinctly average at the game at best.
That video creeped the hell out of me. What if i also miss the chances/miss play like this dude and i dont recognize it? Man, now i feel awful.
On March 04 2014 19:05 Nekovivie wrote: I checked this guys stream out for a few mins to see what the fuss was about. God damn, he was so full of himself.
Not to mention he is distinctly average at the game at best.
That video creeped the hell out of me. What if i also miss the chances/miss play like this dude and i dont recognize it? Man, now i feel awful.
The difference is that you don't stream with an audience of 2000 bots, telling them what an awesome hearthstone player you are, explaining your every average move as some genius play.
Each game he has several bad plays; forgetting to attack (constantly), casting minions in the wrong order, playing doomguard first while soulfire is in hand. I really hope no one is actually trying to learn the game from this guy.
On March 04 2014 09:01 Phasoms wrote: I snagged a really great match from one of his Arena runs a month or so back. Had to cut it down from 20 minutes because he takes so long to make simple turns.
He's got a history of being a fuck on Twitch. His channel has been flagged before. I kind of doubt he'll get banned for viewbotting, though. He's been doing it for so long. I think his channel has a history of getting reported so often that Twitch has simply decided to ignore it.
i found this on botdetector twitter http://www.twitch.tv/massansc (Hearthstone) appears to have a false-viewer bot (~14816 extra viewers of 18748 total) #massansc
On March 04 2014 09:01 Phasoms wrote: I snagged a really great match from one of his Arena runs a month or so back. Had to cut it down from 20 minutes because he takes so long to make simple turns.
He's got a history of being a fuck on Twitch. His channel has been flagged before. I kind of doubt he'll get banned for viewbotting, though. He's been doing it for so long. I think his channel has a history of getting reported so often that Twitch has simply decided to ignore it.
i found this on botdetector twitter http://www.twitch.tv/massansc (Hearthstone) appears to have a false-viewer bot (~14816 extra viewers of 18748 total) #massansc
and i think he is a featured streamer here
Quite interesting. Massan did indeed usually peak out at 4k as I watched him somewhat often as he was the only HS streamer online usually at the time. I did wonder what happened that he over doubled his view count suddenly. Although massan doesn't seem the type to viewbot.
lol dam his decision making is so questionable I don't even know where to start.....And since I just saw his chess skills on that video...all I can say is that hes not even close to an 1200 rating let alone a master......
Twitch mods need to definitely ban this guy since he's taking viewers away from people that actually deserve it.
I've watched this guy some, mostly because it's fun to watch him lose. Something seemed a bit off about him and he is definitely not great at the game (albeit not terrible). I've caught multiple plays that he has missed and I'm fairly new to hearthstone. I never open twitch chats and just watch on TL so I never took notice of his viewers in chat vs total viewers, but this doesn't come as a surprise.
On March 04 2014 09:01 Phasoms wrote: I snagged a really great match from one of his Arena runs a month or so back. Had to cut it down from 20 minutes because he takes so long to make simple turns.
He's got a history of being a fuck on Twitch. His channel has been flagged before. I kind of doubt he'll get banned for viewbotting, though. He's been doing it for so long. I think his channel has a history of getting reported so often that Twitch has simply decided to ignore it.
i found this on botdetector twitter http://www.twitch.tv/massansc (Hearthstone) appears to have a false-viewer bot (~14816 extra viewers of 18748 total) #massansc
and i think he is a featured streamer here
Unfortunately, anybody can send the bots to your channel. I highly doubt he did it himself. Several other channels I watch that normally get 500-2k~ viewers got 30k bots dumped on them!
That recently happend to Thegwalls (who is awesome and should get more viewers, by the way). Went from 300 viewers to 13.000 for half an hour or so. It seems really easy to get that many bot viewers, so much so that people send bots to watch random streams just for fun.
so... can you bot up, say, 10K extra viewers, then play constant commercials to reap in the cash? or do the fake viewers not register as hits for the ads somehow?
if you can actually make a lot of money by inflating viewer counts and then playing commercials, seems like twitch should care more
On March 05 2014 16:49 FallDownMarigold wrote: so... can you bot up, say, 10K extra viewers, then play constant commercials to reap in the cash? or do the fake viewers not register as hits for the ads somehow?
if you can actually make a lot of money by inflating viewer counts and then playing commercials, seems like twitch should care more
The bots don't generate ad revenue, but the potential hundreds of people who see a stream with 10k viewers and check out why it's so popular will indeed generate ad revenue. People who wouldn't have otherwise gone to that stream without the botted viewer level.
I guess twitch doesn't care as long as they get their cut.
Revealed: NL_Kripparrian has been a fraud all this time. His parents are actually Bulgarian.
But yeah, there's a couple of streamers that I've always been a bit confused as to how they bring so many viewers. There's even a "featured" streamer here who brings such thoughts. Though, that's probably just the cynic in me.
This guy must have some mental health issues. I refuse to believe he is a sane person that believe in his skill or that he can continue doing this shit without getting banned.
On March 07 2014 07:31 kaeden79 wrote: Gullin15 @GullinDota 19h @TwitchTVSupport Banning me is a huge mistake. You're really losing out on top tier talent.
Didn't this guy play Dota 2 as well? I wanna watch some of his videos of that instead of LoL... I don't play LoL haha, so I can't see it too much of how bad he is.
Man gives Canadians bad rap :| , I do not get why people do this, you are just cheating yourself in the end... Also I watched that chess game and wow is the best thing I can say to that *face palm*
On March 07 2014 07:31 kaeden79 wrote: Gullin15 @GullinDota 19h @TwitchTVSupport Banning me is a huge mistake. You're really losing out on top tier talent.
Talent so good that he had to fake viewers just to get people to watch. Dear me.
On March 07 2014 07:31 kaeden79 wrote: Gullin15 @GullinDota 19h @TwitchTVSupport Banning me is a huge mistake. You're really losing out on top tier talent.
Talent so good that he had to fake viewers just to get people to watch. Dear me.
It's good that he was banned for breaking the rules, but it's scary how easily some of you are jumping on the hate bandwagon as if he fucked and murdered your dog. He botted to have some extra viewers, which is against the rules so he was banned, but give me a break, he's not Genghis Khan.
On March 08 2014 01:04 Alzadar wrote: It's good that he was banned for breaking the rules, but it's scary how easily some of you are jumping on the hate bandwagon as if he fucked and murdered your dog. He botted to have some extra viewers, which is against the rules so he was banned, but give me a break, he's not Genghis Khan.
I wouldn't call it bandwagon.
He didn't have a likable personality. Banned everyone who confronted him on the view botting, or even asked about it if it were true. Acted like every move he made was the best possible and at the same time took over 1 minute per turn almost letting the timer run out each time.
Its very very easy to dislike the guy. I think I spent around 20 hours in his stream to figure him out and see what it all was about. Its almost like he tried to make people hate him as a kind of weird self inflicted troll art.
All in all, he tried to deceive his viewers and cheat twitch by boosting his viewers so he could get a sub button.
On March 08 2014 01:04 Alzadar wrote: It's good that he was banned for breaking the rules, but it's scary how easily some of you are jumping on the hate bandwagon as if he fucked and murdered your dog. He botted to have some extra viewers, which is against the rules so he was banned, but give me a break, he's not Genghis Khan.
I wouldn't call it bandwagon.
He didn't have a likable personality. Banned everyone who confronted him on the view botting, or even asked about it if it were true. Acted like every move he made was the best possible and at the same time took over 1 minute per turn almost letting the timer run out each time.
Its very very easy to dislike the guy. I think I spent around 20 hours in his stream to figure him out and see what it all was about. Its almost like he tried to make people hate him as a kind of weird self inflicted troll art.
All in all, he tried to deceive his viewers and cheat twitch by boosting his viewers so he could get a sub button.
You spent 20 hours watching the stream of someone you hated?
Like personally I can't stand Reynad's stream, he isn't funny and he plays faceroll decks only, so what do I do, I don't watch him. I don't spend 20 hours watching his stream trying to "figure him out".
On March 08 2014 01:04 Alzadar wrote: It's good that he was banned for breaking the rules, but it's scary how easily some of you are jumping on the hate bandwagon as if he fucked and murdered your dog. He botted to have some extra viewers, which is against the rules so he was banned, but give me a break, he's not Genghis Khan.
He might have not been banned if not for all this. You think about that? If he murdered my dog, he would either be hurt or in jail.
On March 08 2014 01:04 Alzadar wrote: It's good that he was banned for breaking the rules, but it's scary how easily some of you are jumping on the hate bandwagon as if he fucked and murdered your dog. He botted to have some extra viewers, which is against the rules so he was banned, but give me a break, he's not Genghis Khan.
I wouldn't call it bandwagon.
He didn't have a likable personality. Banned everyone who confronted him on the view botting, or even asked about it if it were true. Acted like every move he made was the best possible and at the same time took over 1 minute per turn almost letting the timer run out each time.
Its very very easy to dislike the guy. I think I spent around 20 hours in his stream to figure him out and see what it all was about. Its almost like he tried to make people hate him as a kind of weird self inflicted troll art.
All in all, he tried to deceive his viewers and cheat twitch by boosting his viewers so he could get a sub button.
You spent 20 hours watching the stream of someone you hated?
Like personally I can't stand Reynad's stream, he isn't funny and he plays faceroll decks only, so what do I do, I don't watch him. I don't spend 20 hours watching his stream trying to "figure him out".
I spent around 20 hours to see if the view botting were true and to see what kind of a guy he was.
I take everything I hear with a grain of salt and would like to see for myself. So i just watched his stream for some hours a day and came to the conclusion he was a total asshat. It would def be bandwagon if I just saw his stream for 5 minutes and started to spam his channel.
Didnt hate him in the beginning. Just thought of him as awkward in a bad way.
Reynad is def one of those type of streamer that you love or hate. Kinda like with Ekop. His salty personality makes it difficult to be neutral about him.
On March 08 2014 01:04 Alzadar wrote: It's good that he was banned for breaking the rules, but it's scary how easily some of you are jumping on the hate bandwagon as if he fucked and murdered your dog. He botted to have some extra viewers, which is against the rules so he was banned, but give me a break, he's not Genghis Khan.
I wouldn't call it bandwagon.
He didn't have a likable personality. Banned everyone who confronted him on the view botting, or even asked about it if it were true. Acted like every move he made was the best possible and at the same time took over 1 minute per turn almost letting the timer run out each time.
Its very very easy to dislike the guy. I think I spent around 20 hours in his stream to figure him out and see what it all was about. Its almost like he tried to make people hate him as a kind of weird self inflicted troll art.
All in all, he tried to deceive his viewers and cheat twitch by boosting his viewers so he could get a sub button.
You spent 20 hours watching the stream of someone you hated?
Like personally I can't stand Reynad's stream, he isn't funny and he plays faceroll decks only, so what do I do, I don't watch him. I don't spend 20 hours watching his stream trying to "figure him out".
I spent around 20 hours to see if the view botting were true and to see what kind of a guy he was.
I take everything I hear with a grain of salt and would like to see for myself. So i just watched his stream for some hours a day and came to the conclusion he was a total asshat. It would def be bandwagon if I just saw his stream for 5 minutes and started to spam his channel.
Didnt hate him in the beginning. Just thought of him as awkward in a bad way.
Reynad is def one of those type of streamer that you love or hate. Kinda like with Ekop. His salty personality makes it difficult to be neutral about him.
Reynad is too abrasive for anyone above a certain mental age to be a fan. You can't watch someone that consistently blames everything but his own plays talks down at people and doesn't connect with his viewers. All he's done well is created a stream chat the is the breeding ground for spam.
On March 08 2014 01:04 Alzadar wrote: It's good that he was banned for breaking the rules, but it's scary how easily some of you are jumping on the hate bandwagon as if he fucked and murdered your dog. He botted to have some extra viewers, which is against the rules so he was banned, but give me a break, he's not Genghis Khan.
He's a cheat, end of story. Nobody likes cheaters, especially when they're impeding on other people's success. I don't know why you're surprised at all.
On March 08 2014 01:04 Alzadar wrote: It's good that he was banned for breaking the rules, but it's scary how easily some of you are jumping on the hate bandwagon as if he fucked and murdered your dog. He botted to have some extra viewers, which is against the rules so he was banned, but give me a break, he's not Genghis Khan.
I wouldn't call it bandwagon.
He didn't have a likable personality. Banned everyone who confronted him on the view botting, or even asked about it if it were true. Acted like every move he made was the best possible and at the same time took over 1 minute per turn almost letting the timer run out each time.
Its very very easy to dislike the guy. I think I spent around 20 hours in his stream to figure him out and see what it all was about. Its almost like he tried to make people hate him as a kind of weird self inflicted troll art.
All in all, he tried to deceive his viewers and cheat twitch by boosting his viewers so he could get a sub button.
You spent 20 hours watching the stream of someone you hated?
Like personally I can't stand Reynad's stream, he isn't funny and he plays faceroll decks only, so what do I do, I don't watch him. I don't spend 20 hours watching his stream trying to "figure him out".
I spent around 20 hours to see if the view botting were true and to see what kind of a guy he was.
I take everything I hear with a grain of salt and would like to see for myself. So i just watched his stream for some hours a day and came to the conclusion he was a total asshat. It would def be bandwagon if I just saw his stream for 5 minutes and started to spam his channel.
Didnt hate him in the beginning. Just thought of him as awkward in a bad way.
Reynad is def one of those type of streamer that you love or hate. Kinda like with Ekop. His salty personality makes it difficult to be neutral about him.
Reynad is too abrasive for anyone above a certain mental age to be a fan. You can't watch someone that consistently blames everything but his own plays talks down at people and doesn't connect with his viewers. All he's done well is created a stream chat the is the breeding ground for spam.
I enjoy watching Reynad, and I don't consider myself to have a low mental age. He's a good player and his "faceroll decks" are what he builds in order to win consistently. If you're a competitive player, you will do the same thing. I basically enjoy watching the top ranked players stream so I can see what the top decks are and the thought processes of top players are. Plus, Reynad's PJSalt overload is hilarious to watch. People who rage can be entertaining to watch if it's a funny rage, and I find Reynad's rage funny.
I enjoy Reynad cause hes real and doesnt put up an act (something I feel a lot of popular streamers do). If he doesnt like something, he'll speak his mind. I find nothing wrong with that. In fact, I enjoy his personality a lot.
Reynad's an ok player, though I don't think he's anything extremely top-tier or special as a Hearthstoner, and despite his decent taste in music (Of what I have seen) his personality is comparable to a finger-nail scratching a chalkboard, and he seems a bit delusional about his losses/his talent. There's no way I'd spend 20hrs watching the guy though! Jeesh, Artemis, that's probably too keen.
Lets not be too ridiculous. He's very obviously more than just an "ok player". He's much better than any of us, and we all can benefit from watching him play, if we want to gain insight/are bored enough to watch hearthstone streaming. If you can ignore his immaturity about losses, then you can enjoy/benefit from watching. Takes a bit higher mental age to ignore the negatives tho
Also the unrelated criticism from another poster about what decks he runs is a bit silly since he's the one that is responsible for compiling/popularizing them
This thread is now the Reynad Discussion Thread/Fanclub/Anti-Fanclub!
On March 08 2014 09:50 FallDownMarigold wrote: Lets not be too ridiculous. He's very obviously more than just an "ok player". He's much better than any of us, and we all can benefit from watching him play, if we want to gain insight. If you can ignore his immaturity about losses, then you can enjoy/benefit from watching.
At first I thought you were talking about Gullin, and I had to scroll up to remember what the conversation was. Ok, thank god.
Reynads problem for me is not even his saltiness, it is how childish and immature he is about himself and his impact on hearthstone. Lacks any elegance. But yeah, good player, good deckbuilder.
I'm not going to spread misinformation about this because I'm not that intimate with the magic community, so I'll keep it to just facts. In case anyone/everyone didn't know though, Reynad is banned from competitive magic for alleged cheating. Supposedly, he added cards to a sealed pool and was caught by judges. At first when confronted, he admitted to doing it. Then, his story changed and it became a deck registration mistake.
There's plenty of information on google about it, including multiple blogs from Reynad himself if anyone is curious.
On March 08 2014 09:22 Sutty wrote: Reynad's an ok player, though I don't think he's anything extremely top-tier or special as a Hearthstoner, and despite his decent taste in music (Of what I have seen) his personality is comparable to a finger-nail scratching a chalkboard, and he seems a bit delusional about his losses/his talent. There's no way I'd spend 20hrs watching the guy though! Jeesh, Artemis, that's probably too keen.
Perhaps it was a bit less, I did do other stuff while watching
Yes, Banished be on Sutty's list of "To-play-games-but-realistically-never-going-to-play-due-to-laziness-and-cheapness".
Re: Reynad, yes, heard about the cheating stuff. I don't know whether actually cheating in a magic competitive game, or Gullin's cheating with viewbots is considered worse. But *meh*, reynad chat is for another thread.
LOL he is still collecting times when his stream went online at the day of the ban, he is acting like he got banned because someone hacked him... is he even for real? God damn it.
I mean wtf was he thinking? Mage has six secrets. The first secret on the Mage was obviously Ice Wall because every other triggering condition had been fulfilled and it hadn't activated. As for the second...it wasn't Spellbender or Counterspell because he'd just used Mind Control with the secret up the turn before. Which meant it was either Vaporize, Ice Wall, Ice Block or Mirror Entity. If it was Ice Wall or Ice Block it'd likely just delay in the inevitable (I think? Not sure if fatigue would have been an issue for our "hero" here). If it was Vaporize he could have triggered it with the Yeti and still had the Temple Enforcer in hand to drop. The only guaranteed loss secret was Mirror Entity and blindly playing the Temple Enforcer into it.
That first turn Priestess was funny too. "Oh yeah...that wasn't a bad thing because he had to ping it off rather than play Knife Juggler."
I follow him for the lols. Back when I was brand new to the game and brand new to watching Hearthstone streams I was fooled into thinking he was a great player due to his viewer count. Eventually I realized that he is not.
It's absurd how quick he is in banning people in chat. You would think that his getting banned would be the moment where he turns things around and puts things straight. But he still throws the hammer down on anyone from chat who mentions anything about his ban from Twitch. He won't ever admit to making a mistake. He still acts super cocky and as though he is the best player in the world. He was seriously just talking about how he makes everyone rage quit with his world class board control skills. It's completely idiotic.
Basically, he's exactly the Gullin15 I want. :D
I feel a little bad in watching him for laughs, though, as I suspect he has some sort of actual mental illness. Normal people don't act the way he does. I think he truly believes the very lies he perpetrates. Either that, or he is the greatest Andy Kaufman Twitch has ever seen.
Is he botting again? 1100 people watching atm, too little in viewer list, slow chat... I know he is not the brightest streamer around but is he THAT stupid?
I'm watching him play Kolento hunter. Anddd he's surprisingly coherent. Very few misplays, and commentating his entire thought process. Did he get better or just decide to stop trolling?
On May 05 2014 01:45 Eggi wrote: I was being botted ~8000 viewers last night so it is not out of the realm of possibility someone is targeting hearthstone streamers right now.
but more than likely than not hes botting he seems mentally ill.
The stream is comedy gold. And only half of it is Gullin. The other half are the wannabe Hearthstone police who threaten him.
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