EPT[STL]Playoffs - Request - Page 3
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sas.ZaRaki
Spain199 Posts
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
I, personally, didn't know anything about possible 4-0 for every team against AoV which would have given PsB a chance to take the spot. I was thinking we have 4th place and a match against sas locked after LRMvsSas CW. Announcing the date of the playoff is, for me, very important from organisational point of view. Yeah, I could have guessed that maybe in the next 1-3 weeks we are playing. But if we all rely on proper guessing, then why bother announcing at all? The organizer could as well not tell anybody and then wonder why there's nobody/1-2 guys in the channel. I am not sure if it's better to have every team asking organizers at all times what happens when OR to make sure the information is not ambiguous and have the information published and/or confirmed it's read well in advance somewhere for all to see. Which brings me to another point, in relation to ruling for who qualifies to the playoffs. It seems that this part is a bit uncompleted too. I am pretty much left wondering rather than having a stable info what's going on after reading it. We had a discussion with dRaW in LRMvsSas channel some weeks ago (perhaps Meatsheild too?) what would have happened if, given some scenarions, LRM and iFU were in a tie with same amount of CWs and cw sets won and lost. Rules don't give sufficient info to determine who gets 3rd and who 4th. Common sense would dictate a guess that iFU takes the 3rd spot and LRM the 4th since LRM lost to iFU in the head-to-head CW. But how many times we will be relying on pure guessing for such relatively important stuff? More than enough already imho. Understand that I don't care whether I will be playing prepared or not. I don't care if I will be occupied with something else and not be able to play the playoffs at all, whether it be tomorrow or next week. I don't care as much if Sziky, dRaW or Birdie or whoever else is technically prepared to perform inside the game at the given moment. What I care about is some simple announcement, at humanly adequate time, that doesn't make me cringe for various stuff. Also, I agree with Gecko's statement that Saturday's are easy to play on, more often than not people won't be working. I personally have enough stuff undone for weeks now that I actually planned throughout the week to do on Saturday. It's not mandatory though, I guess it will be ok, but still I really dislike being put in such a situation. | ||
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Freakling
Germany1534 Posts
- the organizers of SBWI should have announced concrete dates and times for playoffs sufficiently in advance. Not doing so was definitely a mistake, which unfortunately cannot be undone retroactively, but only learned from for future tourneys - it is not merely an issue of LRM complaining, because players from other teams, like Terror from LagFree and Draw form Sas, have shown that they would generally agree with postponed playoffs - right now the question is: What is the bigger issue - having teams having problems to put together a standing lineup for the first week of playoffs because of the short notice; or throwing it all over again on even shorter notice, although most players and teams at this point may have already planned their weekend accordingly and it is unlikely that the info will actually reach all the players before the announced playing time, which might cause even more severe confusion and frustration. | ||
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skzlime
Hungary462 Posts
next season, announce playoff schedule along with regular season schedule. possibly leave out a week between the two for more pre-game El Bunker analysis and strategizing! | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
On February 01 2014 08:01 sas.ZaRaki wrote: are we playing tomorrow then? i am so confused now Tomorrow? Yes. Admins need to be a bit more responsive? Yes. Is it their first league and can they improve this problem? Yes. Did we need a 3 page argument stating that the whole argument was only about a late announcement? No. Thanks to the staff/casters/anyone who helped make LRT/announcements, etc. GL HF guys. | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9571 Posts
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traceurling
United States1240 Posts
On February 01 2014 09:08 2Pacalypse- wrote: Wow, look at the BW community being all mature and shit. I'm proud of you guys. Shocker  | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On February 01 2014 08:43 skzlime wrote: conclusion: next season, announce playoff schedule along with regular season schedule. possibly leave out a week between the two for more pre-game El Bunker analysis and strategizing! Jackpot. Hard to believe this might actually be serious skzlime post. Truly such a species is said to be exceedingly rare. | ||
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Game
3191 Posts
Their tl;dr's "Personal attacking against LRM) x500. I won't talk about the issue, but rather try to tie in issues that have nothing to do with the current situation and piss poor management by SBWI to make them seem correlated." | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
On February 01 2014 09:08 2Pacalypse- wrote: Wow, look at the BW community being all mature and shit. I'm proud of you guys. Dunno if you meant me, I wasn't angry or anything, more like not understanding why the long posts from TechnicS, he made his point in the first long post, same goes for trutaCz. On February 01 2014 15:45 Game wrote: @ ninazerg/Geckoxp: Their tl;dr's "Personal attacking against LRM) x500. I won't talk about the issue, but rather try to tie in issues that have nothing to do with the current situation and piss poor management by SBWI to make them seem correlated." I wouldn't say it's piss poor, rather unexperienced. Without knowing details of the organization groups with teams, it looks like it was a hasty move, I said nothing to free them of guilt. However, once they made their decision, it's a lot of work for them to change it last minute again. It should have been communicated sooner, ideally at the start of the season. If they were to re-schedule or make some compromizes for the participating clans, they'd also have to think about re-scheduling the cast, deadlines, coverage and whatnot. For now it looks as if it was easier for the clans to adjust, given that the ruling itself isn't exactly "good", but fair in a sense that it hits all teams the same way. | ||
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iFU.ZerGgBoY
Russian Federation62 Posts
Again so much drama from Lrm). If there was a surprise for u (lrm) that u will make playoffs than u have nothing to do there => give ur spot to PsB. Low orga and activity is ur personal problems Lrm. You think iFU has SUPER players? You think its easy to make all players attend CW? NO! Its orga job, a big hard real job. Teams with better orga always success! Get ready for ur loss. With all manipulations and dirty moves u made u still we be knocked out from league barely making top4. I could say cya in final, but stop  ))) u wont do that!Cry me a reaaaaaaaaaaveeeeeeeeeeeeer! | ||
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2Pacalypse-
Croatia9571 Posts
Award for best post in this thread goes to: On February 01 2014 08:43 skzlime wrote: conclusion: next season, announce playoff schedule along with regular season schedule. possibly leave out a week between the two for more pre-game El Bunker analysis and strategizing! | ||
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