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KingRajesh
Profile Joined July 2010
United States927 Posts
January 07 2014 04:22 GMT
#81
On January 07 2014 13:13 MinzySC2 wrote:
C'mon Geoff, it's pretty obvious that you can't insult pure, innocent, internet attractive womens around the whitest of knights JP "Thirsty as fuck" McDaniels.


REK'D
"Zerg are the absolute worst thing that can happen to your day" - Dustin Browder
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
January 07 2014 04:23 GMT
#82
Please just try to cool down and try to reason with the team again. Posting chat logs like this is just worsening the situation. I hope you guys can work this out.
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
January 07 2014 04:23 GMT
#83
Sorry to hear this Geoff =/ I think both sides make fair points, but JP kicking you without the chance just doesn't seem like something a friend would do. Keep goin at it. Love your personality and attitude and I look forward to seeing you in whatever you decide to do next.
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
[MD]Frostbite
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada292 Posts
January 07 2014 04:23 GMT
#84
On January 07 2014 13:03 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
For fuck's sake....first Artosis, now you? Why is everyone having a falling out with JP??


What falling out?
White-Ra, the godfather Protoss
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2014 04:23 GMT
#85
Close the blog, I can hear the pitchforks coming. Remember how SotG died. We can't have it again. No one wants this.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5484 Posts
January 07 2014 04:23 GMT
#86
Well making a blog about it is kinda counter productive
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
ScLight
Profile Joined July 2013
United States26 Posts
January 07 2014 04:24 GMT
#87
To be honest I don't like how JP gets all the subscribers, youtube views and can just kick cast members all the while Neal(DM) puts in all the work and Jeff/Ryan carries the cast. I would much rather have JP replaced rather than any other cast member. Just my opinion.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 07 2014 04:24 GMT
#88
On January 07 2014 13:21 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
...and everyone fucked up! Incontrol, sympathy for JP not giving you any heads-up, but this blog does nothing but harm. Just look at all your e-minions freaking out. You really think cooler heads can prevail after this?

Seems like most people in this thread agree that both sides were in the wrong. No reason to derail it with the "e-minions freaking out" randomness.
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Noogie
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada49 Posts
January 07 2014 04:24 GMT
#89
On January 07 2014 13:21 SaWse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 13:09 GKFC wrote:
OK, firstly, Geoff I think you can be a bit of a jerk to Gen. Sometimes valid, other times you just jump down her throat. So I can see where JP is coming from.

However, this was completely the wrong way to handle this. As you said, if JP had a problem he should've come to you and talked it through first.

To just lash out like that, then kick you off / shut down the show comes across as very immature. Certainly not impressed with the way it was handled.

Hopefully calmer heads prevail, but I think this has done a lot of damage to the perception of JP / the show...

Take it easy,

G.

Couldn't have worded it any better myself.


I'll go with this as well....right now I don't know if I "could" watch.
JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
January 07 2014 04:24 GMT
#90
On January 07 2014 13:23 [MD]Frostbite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 13:03 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
For fuck's sake....first Artosis, now you? Why is everyone having a falling out with JP??


What falling out?

I assume you're asking about Artosis? They had disagreements over SOTG which is why Dan started Meta.
exoduas
Profile Joined August 2012
86 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 04:24:57
January 07 2014 04:24 GMT
#91
On January 07 2014 13:17 Shadow Sylph wrote:
Regardless of your character being mean or whatever and you wanting to play a meaner character... If your character was really that mean/dismissive you wouldn't be apart of a group. You would never have been allowed to join such an awesome and adventurous group. Either that or you would be outcast because you are unproductive and not a 'team player.' (hence what occurred)

That addressing the roleplay aspect, on the flip side those phrases are really just being dismissive of Gen's point of view and to say that your idea is better. Especially because these happen frequently or almost exclusively with Gen as well, it is as if you're attacking her or (if accepting roleplay) her character. Even if it's not about personal attacks against Gen, personal attacks against her character are not conducive to good roleplay dynamics either. If you are going to roleplay a mean or aggressive character, it still has to function within the group in some way that represent a respect for those that you travel with.

TL;DR; No one wants to travel with a "whiney bitch" (Not as mean as it sounds)


Puke some more sunshine. This is not MLP rollplay. Characters can be mean all they want. Dysfunctional groups are way more fun to roleplay than "awesome and adventurous best friends groups"
MagnuMizer
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Denmark384 Posts
January 07 2014 04:24 GMT
#92
i never liked JP... but this... omfg i'm so mad right now..!!! the show will never be the same without you geoff... fuck... i hope he does some major public apology to get you back.. you don't deserve this.. JP is a dick..
thunder54
Profile Joined March 2011
38 Posts
January 07 2014 04:25 GMT
#93
why does JP have to try to be some big hero if she thinks you are bullying her why doesn't she contact you privately and sort it out. pure high school lvl drama here makes you all look like immature losers.

Also dont sweet it he will be begging you to come back once he realizes your actually the driving force behind these shoes and the most interesting person he has got by farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2014 04:25 GMT
#94
On January 07 2014 13:24 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 13:21 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
...and everyone fucked up! Incontrol, sympathy for JP not giving you any heads-up, but this blog does nothing but harm. Just look at all your e-minions freaking out. You really think cooler heads can prevail after this?

Seems like most people in this thread agree that both sides were in the wrong. No reason to derail it with the "e-minions freaking out" randomness.

He is right though, releasing this to the public was a poor decision. He should have talked with Gen and then JP to deal with it, rather than going public.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Areon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States273 Posts
January 07 2014 04:26 GMT
#95
On January 07 2014 13:21 SaWse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 13:09 GKFC wrote:
OK, firstly, Geoff I think you can be a bit of a jerk to Gen. Sometimes valid, other times you just jump down her throat. So I can see where JP is coming from.

However, this was completely the wrong way to handle this. As you said, if JP had a problem he should've come to you and talked it through first.

To just lash out like that, then kick you off / shut down the show comes across as very immature. Certainly not impressed with the way it was handled.

Hopefully calmer heads prevail, but I think this has done a lot of damage to the perception of JP / the show...

Take it easy,

G.

Couldn't have worded it any better myself.


Yes, this right here. Ho-ly fuck, I still cannot believe shit went down like this, but damn. To sum it up, this dude said it best.
registerjustforthis
Profile Joined January 2014
1 Post
January 07 2014 04:26 GMT
#96
Geoff,
Alright well I am not even sure if you are going to read this and you probably won't, but I have so advice about these types of fights. First I get you are hurt and you have a right to be because you were misunderstood. However, do not say much more while you are hurt it will only make everything worse. Take some time and think then go and talk it out. I would mainly suggest you go and try to make amends because no one wants to lose a friend. JP is only trying to stand up for Gen and you need to explain it was not meant that way, and then prove it. Change Victarian right now to a true Chaotic Good or Neutral Good character. Play him as someone awesome and does Badass shit, but is kind to his friends and does not kill hostages etc. That way you are nice to Gen and everyone else and still the amazing Vincent like character we all know and love.
Best of Luck and I hope you can work this out without losing friends.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 07 2014 04:27 GMT
#97
On January 07 2014 13:23 Plansix wrote:
Close the blog, I can hear the pitchforks coming. Remember how SotG died. We can't have it again. No one wants this.


This is absolutely the best idea. I already tweeted at Geoff when he posted the blog that he probably shouldn't. This is only going to make things worse.

Both are to blame, friends shouldn't bring these kind of stuff to the public before talking out first.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
January 07 2014 04:27 GMT
#98
Lol JP, smooth move. As if the community needed more reason to let you slip further into the obscurity that you clearly deserve. I've never quite been able to figure out why it is that some homely schmuck has been able to coast on his "esports" reputation for so long, but part of me is glad that he'd shoot himself in the foot like this. Maybe it's time to get a real job.

Geoff, you're great, don't let this get you down. It's nice to see someone unwilling to play fluffy bunny all day everyday, and I hope you continue to do you.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 07 2014 04:27 GMT
#99
On January 07 2014 13:25 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 13:24 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 07 2014 13:21 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
...and everyone fucked up! Incontrol, sympathy for JP not giving you any heads-up, but this blog does nothing but harm. Just look at all your e-minions freaking out. You really think cooler heads can prevail after this?

Seems like most people in this thread agree that both sides were in the wrong. No reason to derail it with the "e-minions freaking out" randomness.

He is right though, releasing this to the public was a poor decision. He should have talked with Gen and then JP to deal with it, rather than going public.

I don't agree with this being brought into a public forum. But when someone cuts off communication with you during an argument you always feel that you need to express your frustration somewhere. This I know from experience.

But I agree with you, Geoff should be talking to JP and Gen and shouldn't have posted this blog.
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Fingo
Profile Joined July 2010
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 04:42:39
January 07 2014 04:28 GMT
#100
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