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exoduas
Profile Joined August 2012
86 Posts
January 07 2014 04:15 GMT
#61
not allowed to roleplay on a roleplaying show unless you are mr. sunshine


L O L
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 07 2014 04:16 GMT
#62
On January 07 2014 13:13 plated.rawr wrote:
Yes, you've been a dick and have been bullying others in your various rokeplaying endevours. Yes, JP is overreacting by calling you out for it this late and using it as an excuse to throw you out. You've both fucked up.

Now kiss and make up and get over it. Neither yours or his side is in the right here.


May this be read a thousand times and seen for the truth that it is.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
KingRajesh
Profile Joined July 2010
United States927 Posts
January 07 2014 04:16 GMT
#63
I unsubbed from JP. After almost a year of shows, JP shouldn't just KICK one of the fan favorite characters off a show. Could you imagine if they kicked Walter White off Breaking Bad? Or Tyrion off Game of Thrones?

Jesus H. Christ.
"Zerg are the absolute worst thing that can happen to your day" - Dustin Browder
Dismund
Profile Joined May 2010
United States23 Posts
January 07 2014 04:16 GMT
#64
On January 07 2014 13:13 MinzySC2 wrote:
C'mon Geoff, it's pretty obvious that you can't insult pure, innocent, internet attractive womens around the whitest of knights JP "Thirsty as fuck" McDaniels.

HAHAHAHAHA
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 07 2014 04:16 GMT
#65
On January 07 2014 13:14 ImHuko wrote:
You have always been a dick to Gen, whether it was with body language, or words. Gen is always visibly effected to the point where she can't even have fun and role play how she wants. The fact that you haven't even apologized in your mopey bullshit post here speaks loudly about you.


You have always wanted to talk down to Gen and JP has INFACT yelled at you before. He has told you before to stop yelling at Gen and let her roleplay how she wants.. In fact, he actually said "shut the fuck up, geoff. let gen play how she wants". You remember the shut the fuck up part, but not the part that you whine about never being told.

Stop playing the fucking victim, you're a grown ass man. You caused this shit by being a dick to Gen, and you haven't even apologized, just tried to play victim.


I recognize your name as a hater from other threads/projects. You aren't welcome here as you are incredibly biased and mean. Please don't come back here.
orBitual
Profile Joined January 2011
United States96 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 04:17:32
January 07 2014 04:16 GMT
#66
the one thing that always bothered me about this show was incontrol's dickishness to gen, but I assumed they talked about it behind the scenes and would work it out or someone would quit eventually (gen).

i still hope you work it out, though.
Shadow Sylph
Profile Joined December 2010
United States98 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 04:18:34
January 07 2014 04:17 GMT
#67
Regardless of your character being mean or whatever and you wanting to play a meaner character... If your character was really that mean/dismissive you wouldn't be apart of a group. You would never have been allowed to join such an awesome and adventurous group. Either that or you would be outcast because you are unproductive and not a 'team player.' (hence what occurred)

That addressing the roleplay aspect, on the flip side those phrases are really just being dismissive of Gen's point of view and to say that your idea is better. Especially because these happen frequently or almost exclusively with Gen as well, it is as if you're attacking her or (if accepting roleplay) her character. Even if it's not about personal attacks against Gen, personal attacks against her character are not conducive to good roleplay dynamics either. If you are going to roleplay a mean or aggressive character, it still has to function within the group in some way that represent a respect for those that you travel with.

TL;DR; No one wants to travel with a "whiney bitch" (Not as mean as it sounds)
kenpokesbarbie
Profile Joined January 2014
Canada1 Post
January 07 2014 04:17 GMT
#68
got to love the people defending geoff I would understand if this was the first time he has done something like this but it is not he has made rude comments towards gen every week of the show whenever she is taking to long to role play something. You can say it was his character all you want but half the time he wasn't even in the same area when gen was role playing something and he still made comments undermining her. On the other hand jp can't say much either because he has also been guilty of doing the same thing on occasion when he use to meta game the shit out of stuff just to annoy gens character, but geoff is on a whole other level.
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
January 07 2014 04:17 GMT
#69
Talk it out in private like actual adults, this is really dumb
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2014 04:17 GMT
#70
Kiss, make up, stop being a big jerk and we will all get more RPG action.

Seriously, how does this stuff not happen behind closed doors and in private.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Borsti
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany79 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 04:23:28
January 07 2014 04:18 GMT
#71
I don't even know what to say right now. I fell in love with this show months ago and I was so excited for it to come back tonight. I stayed up till 3 am only to watch the start, knowing I'd stay up all night to catch everything the promising new episode had to offer.

Now I'm sitting here, the clock hit 5am already and a part of me still hopes this is an incredibly bad joke.

I'm sure this wasn't handled the best way and I hope you guys can sleep a night about it and have a talk tomorrow to clear this situation up. You, JP, Gen, Neal and Ryan have created something from nothing. Something thousands of people don't want to miss anymore. Sure it'd end some day, many people thought the end of Rollplay D&D was the end of it, but that ending at least was an ending worth living through. What happened today is just not worth to be the end of something that amazing.

If it ends up to be the end of the groups D&D journey, then it has to be that way. One can not force people to work // play together. It would just be the saddest ending to this journey one could possibly imagine.

Best regards, Borsti
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
January 07 2014 04:18 GMT
#72
On January 07 2014 13:14 iNcontroL wrote:
I acknowledge that I am mean to gen from time to time. I apologized to her as I didn't know it was hurting her feelings. I am not saying this to absolve myself of it but rather to express my sincere apologies for doing that. My point is however I genuinely had no idea it was becoming an actual issue. You can believe that or not. I didn't know. Neither Gen or JP ever said anything about it to me. I pride myself on always striving to improve but I sometimes have no fucking idea that I am doing something wrong.. by going from 0 to boiled over I got blind sided. If you think that is me claiming to be the victim so be it. I am just trying to give perspective.


Gen herself says that she isn't pissed off about it and hopes it would all just work out. It's literally just between JP and you
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
January 07 2014 04:19 GMT
#73
don't be sad Geoff! you're an awesome person, you're clever and funny and a good d00d. Your ego and humor are part of who you are and its not a bad thing at all, ever since bw times we've had a few disputes and disagreements (I've got a stronk ego myself) and at times I thought you were a douchebag, but over time I've come to love your personality and I think your heart is almost always in the right place. Hope you guys will figure this out cause you'd be a big loss to JP's shows and cause well you're friends and losing friends sucks shit, maybe he was having a bad day himself give it a couple of days and sit down and talk. Love you dude! and come over to the house for bbq sometime.
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
gyad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States423 Posts
January 07 2014 04:19 GMT
#74
You guys really shouldn't compare Geoff's characters with JP's characters. When JP is a dick, it's really obvious that he's doing it to have fun. ALL of his characters are basically trolls, but the difference is that they're all distinct in many ways. JP's characters are never a dick to any single person. You can't watch JP's characters and think, "wow JP himself must be an asshole".

I'm a fan of Geoff as well and is sad by this, but please don't call JP out on being a hypocrite. He was definitely very impulsive when he cancelled the show, but he did the right thing. He just did it in a REALLY bad way.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13388 Posts
January 07 2014 04:19 GMT
#75
Just take a couple days off and chat after. If you guys are really good friends it'll work itself out.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Dreadwolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada220 Posts
January 07 2014 04:19 GMT
#76
Okay, thjs happen when rping, the best of friend end up angry, really angry. You guys can sort it out.

Most people have faults when rping. Some people are to passive, some people take too much time, some people are too focused ton details, some people cant help to metagame all the time. Some people cant abide to be weak, some people cant abide to work with the other character 100%.. rule lawers.. i could go on for a while.

Part of what make a good rping group is accepting other peoples bad habbits and have a good time anyway. You have a good group, HAVE, no HAD. Work it out, i have been playing DnD or VtM and other games.. Every Friday, for the past.. 15 years. it IS worth it to to at least try.
Flexes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany21 Posts
January 07 2014 04:20 GMT
#77
to be honest i always though you guys were a little rough with gen. but it was not just you to be fair. i heared jp say "shut the fuck up" and stuff to her (out of character) more than once over the course of the campaign. i guess sometimes she really does stupid things ingame and can me mildly annoying sometimes. him telling you to stop it sounds fine, maybe he realized he had treaded her wrong and wanted to change that and just wanted to tell you the same. but the way he went about it is just insane. he could have been like "i think we sometimes are too mean to gen, lets try to be a bit nicer, ok?" but telling you that he would remove you didnt really sounds like a backstep friendship wise and you are also correct in calling him out to be hypocritical about it. i hope you guys can be friends againe, but i would feel betrayed aswell in your position.
https://twitter.com/#!/Flexeslol
SaWse
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium102 Posts
January 07 2014 04:21 GMT
#78
On January 07 2014 13:09 GKFC wrote:
OK, firstly, Geoff I think you can be a bit of a jerk to Gen. Sometimes valid, other times you just jump down her throat. So I can see where JP is coming from.

However, this was completely the wrong way to handle this. As you said, if JP had a problem he should've come to you and talked it through first.

To just lash out like that, then kick you off / shut down the show comes across as very immature. Certainly not impressed with the way it was handled.

Hopefully calmer heads prevail, but I think this has done a lot of damage to the perception of JP / the show...

Take it easy,

G.

Couldn't have worded it any better myself.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
January 07 2014 04:21 GMT
#79
...and everyone fucked up! Incontrol, sympathy for JP not giving you any heads-up, but this blog does nothing but harm. Just look at all your e-minions freaking out. You really think cooler heads can prevail after this?
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
ShiniSama
Profile Joined November 2011
United States103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 04:25:11
January 07 2014 04:22 GMT
#80
what in the actual fuck? There are a few things that I would like to express in this whole debacle (not that it means anything). There were faults from BOTH sides. I am not on Geoffs side or JP's, i'm on the side of the people because I WANT THIS SHOW TO KEEP GOING.

First off for JP to COMPLETELY 100% remove you from the show is a dumb idea. The show won't be the same if you're not there Geoff and I know for a fact that thousands, literally, will not be watching if you're not part of it. I could understand taking you off it for the time being or canceling the show to work shit out, but completely removing you is downright wrong.

Second, both Geoff and JP are in the wrong in many ways here. First JP should not have said when he ended the stream "I had to kick Geoff the show". He should have ended it saying that there was some technical difficulty or something other then "I had to kick Geoff off the show". Thats just asking for drama.

Geoff, as much as I understand how you think posting this thread is going to help people understand or help you vent your feelings this whole thread is a bad idea. This thread is just inviting people to hate on JP or bitch about something. Its just going to fuel the fire. JP definitely should have brought the whole bullying thing up before just kicking you off. JP should have asked Gen if she felt as if she was being attacked by Geoff and then let Gen and Geoff work it out. If JP felt like he was being attacked HE should have brought it up with Geoff, just like Geoff said in his post. But the bottom line is this post is a very bad idea and is not going to help anything calm down.

This whole thing is incredibly blown out of proportion and I think that both JP and Geoff handled things poorly. There are many more reasons that I have that I could use as support for my argument, but these are the main things that I think are the most important. This show is literally thousands of peoples favorite shows on twitch and if it ends just because of a stupid fight would be very disappointing. What would be even more sad is if a good friendship like Geoffs and JP's, a friendship that brings thousands of people enjoyment and laughter, ended over such a dumb fight.
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