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Acertos
France852 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On May 11 2014 22:01 Banaora wrote: Reality is that this stuff was published. Would you say Bild is pulling this story out of their ass just to get attention or something? Bild is part of Axel Springer SE, Germany's biggest media publishing company and it has a strong trans-atlantic background. For me there has to be some ground for this story otherwise it would not have been published. Nope, Bild is totally fine. I would say they intentionally misinterprete information to make a story, yes. And far from "the first time". Bilds reputation didn't manifest out of thin air you know. Not even the partner-paper "Die Welt" calls it news, but instead also just goes by "according to BamS". Not to mention, i'm kinda not entirely sure that the NSA is stupid enough to give us the information about blackwater. According to Bild, we didn't "find out" but "got told". Could you come up with a reason why the US would tell us that their mercenaries are involved? If so, i might change my mind. If not, i stick to occams razor. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On May 11 2014 22:09 LegalLord wrote: Not sure how much of the population supports secession, but I know that Kiev certainly didn't win any favors by sending in the military against its own people. I wouldn't be surprised if a majority supports it now. The assumption that a minor piece of news that is totally in line with the recent developments somehow changes the big picture is quite amusing. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On May 11 2014 22:01 Banaora wrote: Reality is that this stuff was published. Would you say Bild is pulling this story out of their ass just to get attention or something? Bild is part of Axel Springer SE, Germany's biggest media publishing company and it has a strong trans-atlantic background. For me there has to be some ground for this story otherwise it would not have been published. Honestly, tabloids print any rumour, and Russia is putting forward tons of it. Here's an equivalent Daily Mail article on them: Click to read more trash. Summary: there's a Russian youtube video of armed men, with people shouting Blackwater. But not a single reputable newspaper or independent journalist in Ukraine has reported seeing them. *** Regarding Mariupol's chief of police being found dead earlier: | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On May 11 2014 22:29 Saryph wrote: Wasn't this the vote for which they found a box of like ten thousand pre-filled ballots a couple of days ago? (all supporting the pro-Russian separatists of course) Yup. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On May 11 2014 22:27 Ghanburighan wrote: Regarding Mariupol's chief of police being found dead earlier: https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/status/465476915369766913 What is "the peoples court"? I can't make it out via googletranslate. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On May 11 2014 22:29 Saryph wrote: Wasn't this the vote for which they found a box of like ten thousand pre-filled ballots a couple of days ago? (all supporting the pro-Russian separatists of course) no, that was one hundred thousand ballots. The ballots are the same (except for the pre-filled part) | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22065 Posts
On May 11 2014 22:27 Ghanburighan wrote: Regarding Mariupol's chief of police being found dead earlier: https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/status/465476915369766913 Why am i getting images from Dark Knight Rising in my head? Peoples Court my ass. | ||
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revoN
Japan804 Posts
Russian media will just draw a picture of a long line of people and manipulate its viewers into thinking that the turnout was really high. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On May 11 2014 22:27 Cheerio wrote: The assumption that a minor piece of news that is totally in line with the recent developments somehow changes the big picture is quite amusing. The assumption that a military intervention that involves the shooting of fellow citizens (justified or not) by the Ukranian military is a minor piece of news is quite troubling. | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On May 11 2014 22:34 m4ini wrote: What is "the peoples court"? I can't make it out via googletranslate. Medieval stuff man, pitchforks and smoked witches at stacks. For me, it is equivalent to plain and simple lynch. | ||
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Acertos
France852 Posts
On May 11 2014 22:39 Gorsameth wrote: Why am i getting images from Dark Knight Rising in my head? Peoples Court my ass. A bunch of retarded people with AK47s. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On May 11 2014 23:31 Roman666 wrote: Medieval stuff man, pitchforks and smoked witches at stacks. For me, it is identical to plain and simple lynch. That's what it looks like to me, i just wasn't sure if "peoples court" is an actual thing or just made up, basically. I wonder how one would get rid of these people. The voting is bullshit, we all know it and only retards would argue otherwise after everything we've seen (not just hearsay). But in the end, it actually could lead to war in my mind, and that's the saddest part. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22065 Posts
On May 11 2014 23:37 m4ini wrote: That's what it looks like to me, i just wasn't sure if "peoples court" is an actual thing or just made up, basically. I wonder how one would get rid of these people. The voting is bullshit, we all know it and only retards would argue otherwise after everything we've seen (not just hearsay). But in the end, it actually could lead to war in my mind, and that's the saddest part. You get rid of them by arresting them. And yes it could end up being not pretty but as has been said a lot this isn't a peoples revolt from discontent like Madian was. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On May 11 2014 23:50 Gorsameth wrote: You get rid of them by arresting them. And yes it could end up being not pretty but as has been said a lot this isn't a peoples revolt from discontent like Madian was. Arresting people carrying AKs and IGLAs, well. I would not want to be on their police force then. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22065 Posts
On May 11 2014 23:52 m4ini wrote: Arresting people carrying AKs and IGLAs, well. I would not want to be on their police force then. I know its not a popular opinion but yes sometimes your only option is to let someone do whatever they want (not an option really) or sending in the army and shooting them. | ||
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Mc
332 Posts
You can participate in the DPR vote in Moscow.... https://twitter.com/myrevolutionrus/status/465456860355887104/photo/1 http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnPAYu4IMAAhI8Z.png BBC correspondent from Moscow: + Show Spoiler + Any confirmation? | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
 And that also, most likely, would end up in war. That's what i'm on about. You obviously can't let happen what's happening right now (no country could or would) - but there's still that little thing of 40k russian soldiers on your border, ready to "prevent russian genocide". | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22065 Posts
On May 11 2014 23:58 Mc wrote: So supposedly this true...!? You can participate in the DPR vote in Moscow.... https://twitter.com/myrevolutionrus/status/465456860355887104/photo/1 http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnPAYu4IMAAhI8Z.png https://twitter.com/MaloverjanBBC/statuses/465456155154989056 Any confirmation? Looks to be real yes. Even the White House has commented on how you can. | ||
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