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Today's operation in Mariupol (which the Ukrainian govt. declared `taken back' yesterday).
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Edit: Zeo actually edited his post into a bannable one. What do you know. For some people, hindsight doesn't improve things :D *** Today's operation in Mariupol (which the Ukrainian govt. declared `taken back' yesterday). | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
On May 08 2014 21:31 Cheerio wrote: This is called courage, when you don't let fear to stop you from doing what needs to be done. You won't understand. You still have to adjust your policies to your neighbors, specially if they are as big as Russia. Denmark did that for a long time towards Germany, until we both joined the EU. And we probably still do it today somewhat | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On May 08 2014 21:34 zeo wrote: Sigh, you have doomed your country to decades of instability. Your children won't care if you tell them Russia started it, maidan could have been considered a success if they had just stuck to the agreement made with Yanukovych. Look at your country for Christs sake, this is all maidans fault. Full retard from the begining, and you didn't answer why you didn't set fire to the country because of Yushenko If you want to climb a higher mountain you need to go down. And my children will live in a European country when they grow up. Whether Russia will ever become one, I'm not so sure. Same for it's satellites. | ||
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kukarachaa
United States284 Posts
http://www.france24.com/en/20140508-video-govt-forces-battle-control-east-ukraine-mariupol/ | ||
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
On May 08 2014 21:45 Cheerio wrote: If you want to climb a higher mountain you need to go down. And my children will live in a European country when they grow up. Whether Russia will ever become one, I'm not so sure. And there are around 20 million people in your country who say their children will never live in the EU. But I guess its better to bang your head into a wall until ether the wall or your head gives way. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
Yacenuk said Ukrainian Army who battles "separatists" in the east would make their grandfathers from UIA proud gj, gj | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On May 08 2014 21:51 zeo wrote: And there are around 20 million people in your country who say their children will never live in the EU. But I guess its better to bang your head into a wall until ether the wall or your head gives way. This country is changing fast. You know how they call Euromaidan over here? "Революція Гідності" = "Revolution of Dignity". | ||
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
On May 08 2014 22:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Why are you in this thread bashing someone who hopes that their country and the people in it will have a better future? Nobody is bashing anyone, don't be silly. There are people being killed in eastern Ukraine that also want a better future for Ukraine. Oh wow, thats really fucked up if he said that Some army guy thanking the Ukrainian government for the $111 they paid him for 2 months work. Asks what if they just turned the column around and marched into Kiev | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
On May 08 2014 21:48 kukarachaa wrote: French journalists were in Mariupol yesterday, and managed to get some video. http://www.france24.com/en/20140508-video-govt-forces-battle-control-east-ukraine-mariupol/ good video. You clearly see the special forces are rather brutal, which is why they should never be used against you own population. But you also see how brainwashed the Russian speaking Ukrainians are by Russian propaganda media claiming that the western Ukraine are all fascists. It is like they just ignore the snipers who shot people in Kiev a couple of months ago | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
From the article: "So Russia has abandoned us as well," said Natalia Medvedenko, 58. "Well we will just have to fight the fascists on our own. But I still don't quite believe it." In rebel-held Slavyansk a member of the militia who gave his name as Rustem described Putin as a coward who was "afraid of losing his money". Loading sandbags into a truck, he said: "Instead of helping Russian people here, he is betraying us. He will pay for this with a revolution in Red Square. Russian people will not stand by and watch this happen." | ||
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kukarachaa
United States284 Posts
On May 08 2014 22:08 zeo wrote: Nobody is bashing anyone, don't be silly. There are people being killed in eastern Ukraine that also want a better future for Ukraine. Oh wow, thats really fucked up if he said that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA8GT7n9M-c Some army guy thanking the Ukrainian government for the $111 they paid him for 2 months work. Asks what if they just turned the column around and marched into Kiev Well that guy is fucked. | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
The situation in Donetsk remained tense. The City Administration building in Mariupol (113 km south of Donetsk) was found to be surrounded by tire blockades and around 50 people in front of the building. There were also posters with “OSCE get out” or “OSCE you cheat” written on them. Source It seems problematic to spit on OSCE like that when it is the main organisation trying to find a solution. | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On May 08 2014 22:08 zeo wrote: Nobody is bashing anyone, don't be silly. There are people being killed in eastern Ukraine that also want a better future for Ukraine. Oh wow, thats really fucked up if he said that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA8GT7n9M-c Some army guy thanking the Ukrainian government for the $111 they paid him for 2 months work. Asks what if they just turned the column around and marched into Kiev Perhaps they paid him that much because of the fucking galleon that "his" president built himself, gobbled up too much of tax payers money? Too bad he could not set sail and gtfo on it, because it was docked in a fucking artificial lake. Oh wait, but its current govt fault that there is no money, right? | ||
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Greem
730 Posts
On May 08 2014 22:07 Cheerio wrote: This country is changing fast. You know how they call Euromaidan over here? "Революція Гідності" = "Revolution of Dignity". Stop thinking that your opinion is the opinion of everyone else, its simply not, and not by small margin, You from Kiev i believe, and with every "revolution" you chant the same thing. You put European, before Country, before people, you so desperate that you accept anything from anyone who says that its coming with help. So your Revolution od Dignity, only brought Despair and Blood so far, and dont shout , like you're shouting for everyone else in your country. | ||
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Mc
332 Posts
Cheerio has been pretty good at keeping his cool in this thread and being quite factual rather than posting just opinion or posts like "my children will live in a European country" and "Revolution of Dignity". I think Zeo trolling him with his incessant bullshit led him to let off some emotion. Look at Zeo's post before he said anything non-factual: "Sigh, you have doomed your country to decades of instability. Your children won't care if you tell them Russia started it, maidan could have been considered a success if they had just stuck to the agreement made with Yanukovych. Look at your country for Christs sake, this is all maidans fault. Full retard from the begining, and you didn't answer why you didn't set fire to the country because of Yushenko" | ||
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kukarachaa
United States284 Posts
On May 09 2014 01:42 Roman666 wrote: Perhaps they paid him that much because of the fucking galleon that "his" president built himself, gobbled up too much of tax payers money? Too bad he could not set sail and gtfo on it, because it was docked in a fucking artificial lake. Oh wait, but its current govt fault that there is no money, right? Money wasn't his main complain, he is the rest of it " Dear Mr. Yatsunik, I wish on you, what I had to hear from my brothers and sisters from both Kiev and from here. Trust me I am ashamed. Think about it. Because we can easily turn this column around towards Kiev. | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On May 09 2014 02:27 kukarachaa wrote: Money wasn't his main complain, he is the rest of it " Dear Mr. Yatsunik, I wish on you, what I had to hear from my brothers and sisters from both Kiev and from here. Trust me I am ashamed. Think about it. Because we can easily turn this column around towards Kiev. But zeo's main concern about the video was money and I wanted to alleviate it so he could sleep better. | ||
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Mc
332 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukr_world_GNI_percapita.PNG From my count, 9 countries in *Africa* have a higher GNI per capita than Ukraine. It seems like Ukraine is doing quite well being Russia's bitch. The only *hope* for growth/development is to ally economically/politically with the EU. It's just a hope, but it's better than continued stagnation and kleptocracy. | ||
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