Ukraine Crisis - Page 124

On March 02 2014 12:35 Sub40APM wrote:
Damn, Canada showing a surprising amount of sack.

http://news.yahoo.com/canada-says-recalling-ambassador-russia-consultations-003958694--business.html

On March 02 2014 13:07 Kamille wrote:


Harper's going for that Peace Prize.

On March 02 2014 13:09 Sub40APM wrote:

Maybe hes worried that after complains about Fascist Canadians oppressing helpless Russians, Putin wont have any choice but to deploy troops to Toronto to protect them, against fascists.

On March 02 2014 11:10 SilentchiLL wrote:


So you're admitting that you didn't even bother reading up on the conversations you're talking about and just threw that in there because you were already convinced that the people were acting like you thought they would anyway?


EDIT:
And why exactly are you calling Americans hypocrits for things they had no personal involvement in (and which are also a good bit more complicated than you're portraying here and far less bad than the things the USSR/Russia has done), just because they condemn the acts of Putin?
Even IF they would have been the ones to, let's say, launch the drone strikes, how exactly would that make them hypocrites?
The situations are quite different and you're acting as if every American who condemns Putin's actions doesn't comdemn all (or atleast some) of the stuff you mentioned here.
For somebody who talks about "anti-chinese and anti-russian rhetoric" you show a suprising lack of the ability to differentiate and look at the actual people you're talking to instead of just the picture you have of them in your mind, the quote in this post is the best example for that. It seems to me like you're the hypocrite since you condemn and insult people here randomely based on opinions you had before you even decided not to read their posts, so you treat them as you would treat the silly image you have in your head instead of seeing them as individuals.
Disappointing, to say the least.

On March 02 2014 11:00 DeepElemBlues wrote:



Only to people who forget or don't care about when the Soviet Union was sending tanks into Czechoslovakia. Or Poland (to their credit even the commie Poles said they'd fight back and the Russians backed down). Or Hungary. Or giving Kim il-Sun the weapons and the green light to invade South Korea. Or invading Afghanistan. Or the fifty or so other things the USSR did that were all worse than anything the US did during the Cold War.

On March 02 2014 06:24 RvB wrote:

Not reallty, I'm convinced the EU is the best way to go for Ukraine in the long run.

Like Sub40apm said:



At least help from the west will give the country a chance to develop their economy and democracy in a good way which will never happen with Russia.

On March 02 2014 06:24 Sub40APM wrote:

You mean the way you emigrated to Czech Republic and maintain Russian line here?

On March 02 2014 09:11 rapistzerg wrote:


Man, this is pathetic. Medics shot by police snipers? Any proof? The police started firing live ammo long after several policemen died to gunshot wounds. He doesn't need to go find any videos, since you are spouting your fantasies.

On March 02 2014 16:11 elagrion wrote:

You just lying.
Here is the medic-volonteer girl shot by sniper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTbdcOmOBVw

On March 02 2014 16:33 PaleMan wrote:



so where is the proof it was police sniper?
and what benefits for police this shot will bring?
only negatives - crowd will be even more angry and kill policeman after that

and who is benefactor if crowd is more angry and impulsive?
definitely not Yanykovich and polivce

and shots in the neck are trademark of british snipers

srsly, ppl can't use their brains nowadays

On March 02 2014 15:39 mcc wrote:

Nope, I am Polish and was born in Czech Republic. But thank you for showing that I was completely correct. Anything that does not fit your black and white view of the situation means that it is just a work of Russian propaganda.

Putin will not intervene directly unless Ukrainian nazis that now control half of the government start the ethnic cleansing in Crimea and the east of Ukraine they have in their program. At that point West can either support nazi paramilitary organization or let Russia do what it wants

On March 02 2014 16:33 PaleMan wrote:



so where is the proof it was police sniper?
and what benefits for police this shot will bring?
only negatives - crowd will be even more angry and kill policeman after that

and who is benefactor if crowd is more angry and impulsive?
definitely not Yanykovich and polivce

and shots in the neck are trademark of british snipers

srsly, ppl can't use their brains nowadays

The United States condemns the Russian Federation's invasion and occupation of Ukrainian territory, and its violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity in full contravention of Russia’s obligations under the UN Charter, the Helsinki Final Act, its 1997 military basing agreement with Ukraine, and the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. This action is a threat to the peace and security of Ukraine, and the wider region.

I spoke with President Turchynov this morning to assure him he had the strong support of the United States and commend the new government for showing the utmost restraint in the face of the clear and present danger to the integrity of their state, and the assaults on their sovereignty. We also urge that the Government of Ukraine continue to make clear, as it has from throughout this crisis, its commitment to protect the rights of all Ukrainians and uphold its international obligations.

As President Obama has said, we call for Russia to withdraw its forces back to bases, refrain from interference elsewhere in Ukraine, and support international mediation to address any legitimate issues regarding the protection of minority rights or security.

From day one, we've made clear that we recognize and respect Russia’s ties to Ukraine and its concerns about treatment of ethnic Russians. But these concerns can and must be addressed in a way that does not violate Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, by directly engaging the Government of Ukraine.

Unless immediate and concrete steps are taken by Russia to deescalate tensions, the effect on U.S.-Russian relations and on Russia’s international standing will be profound.
I convened a call this afternoon with my counterparts from around the world, to coordinate on next steps. We were unified in our assessment and will work closely together to support Ukraine and its people at this historic hour.

In the coming days, emergency consultations will commence in the UN Security Council, the North Atlantic Council, and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe in defense of the underlying principles critical to the maintenance of international peace and security. We continue to believe in the importance of an international presence from the UN or OSCE to gather facts, monitor for violations or abuses and help protect rights. As a leading member of both organizations, Russia can actively participate and make sure its interests are taken into account.

The people of Ukraine want nothing more than the right to define their own future – peacefully, politically and in stability. They must have the international community’s full support at this vital moment. The United States stands with them, as we have for 22 years, in seeing their rights restored.

On March 02 2014 16:44 Pr0wler wrote:


Clearly that girl was shot by english ninja sniper, that was definitely part of the protesters . Nobody should think anything else ! I mean, use your brains... duh.

On March 02 2014 16:52 PaleMan wrote:


clearly it went like this:
police sniper thinks why not shot this medic girl in the neck so crowd goes wild and kills my collegues in front of them in a most barbaric way
sounds fun
*shoots*

On March 02 2014 16:54 Pr0wler wrote:

The bold part is what didn't happen in my honest opinion.