EPTOn March 02 2014 03:32 AA.spoon wrote:
Yanoukovich has been deposed by the parliament and is thus not a president anymore.
Yanoukovich has been deposed by the parliament and is thus not a president anymore.
it looke something like this
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PaleMan
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kukarachaa
United States284 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:32 AA.spoon wrote: Yanoukovich has been deposed by the parliament and is thus not a president anymore. Yanoukovich, during his press conference yesterday, has explicitely stated he didn't want military help. I am not 100% but haven't a lot of members of President's party left Kiev, so basically half of the Ukraine wasn't represented or was represented in a very limited capacity when those decisions were made? | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:36 PaleMan wrote: it looke something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOdnE_5-hUA Paleman, if you consider Yanukovich the president of Ukraine, what is your opinion on his speech yesterday on Russian television specifically saying he didn't want Russian troops in his country? | ||
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:39 Saryph wrote: Paleman, if you consider Yanukovich the president of Ukraine, what is your opinion on his speech yesterday on Russian television specifically saying he didn't want Russian troops in his country? He told Russia to act and to protect Ukraine. | ||
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:39 Saryph wrote: Paleman, if you consider Yanukovich the president of Ukraine, what is your opinion on his speech yesterday on Russian television specifically saying he didn't want Russian troops in his country? i was watching it live and he said he is surprised Russia isn't acting yet | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:44 LongShot27 wrote: What we're all missing here is that this isn't a fight over nationalism or sovereignty or freedom. Russia wants to maintain control of the base of operations for its Black Sea's Fleet. The Crimea region is essentially the largest production center of the Ukraine, it has factories and ports that other parts of the country doesn't have. Whichever of the two of them controls it will have a massive economic boost. right you are | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:34 LongShot27 wrote: Elections are for show, governments choose who their leaders will be. Its been that way for thousands of years. oh ok. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17799 Posts
On March 02 2014 01:39 xDaunt wrote: LOL. The UK called the meeting -- not the US. Obama is such a joke. He got a Nobel Peace Prize, he has to show he deserves it  | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:44 LongShot27 wrote: What we're all missing here is that this isn't a fight over nationalism or sovereignty or freedom. Russia wants to maintain control of the base of operations for its Black Sea's Fleet. The Crimea region is essentially the largest production center of the Ukraine, it has factories and ports that other parts of the country doesn't have. Whichever of the two of them controls it will have a massive economic boost. Wat? Ports - yes, but they don't have factrories of heavy industry, Crimea is the largest touristic center in Ukraine in summer. Moreover, Crimea even doesn't have it's own source of fresh water... Almost all the industry on East. For example Crimea in winter needs a lot of dotations... | ||
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m4ini
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On March 02 2014 03:44 LongShot27 wrote: What we're all missing here is that this isn't a fight over nationalism or sovereignty or freedom. Russia wants to maintain control of the base of operations for its Black Sea's Fleet. The Crimea region is essentially the largest production center of the Ukraine, it has factories and ports that other parts of the country doesn't have. Whichever of the two of them controls it will have a massive economic boost. I do think it's about the new sovi.. Eurasian Union. Russia was betting and counting on the Ukraine joining. Russia would benefit greatly (solely, ask Kasachstan) from that. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:47 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Wat? Ports - yes, but they don't have factrories of heavy industry, Crimea is the largest touristic center in Ukraine in summer. Moreover, Crimea even doesn't have it's own source of fresh water... Almost all the industry on East. food production, chemical fields, mechanical engineering and metal working, and fuel production industries Primarily food production | ||
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AA.spoon
Belgium331 Posts
He said he was surprised Russia didn't act and then explicitely said he didn't want military intervention. You are just a warmonger. | ||
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whiteLotus
1833 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:25 LongShot27 wrote: Moving your military into a country without that countries permission is the definition of an invasion where are pictures,videos or any real reports on bbc,guardian, any other website of this "military" moving into ukraine ? all i see is that putin got a "yes" on moving them, but he hasnt done anything yet. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:49 LongShot27 wrote: food production, chemical fields, mechanical engineering and metal working, and fuel production industries Primarily food production They don't have any sources of fuel by itselft, they don't have large chemical or food production, as I already told ya, they DON'T even have their own source of FRESH WATER. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:49 whiteLotus wrote: where are pictures,videos or any real reports on bbc,guardian, any other website of this "military" moving into ukraine ? all i see is that putin got a "yes" on moving them, but he hasnt done anything yet. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26400035 Courtesy of the BBC | ||
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kukarachaa
United States284 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:44 LongShot27 wrote: What we're all missing here is that this isn't a fight over nationalism or sovereignty or freedom. Russia wants to maintain control of the base of operations for its Black Sea's Fleet. The Crimea region is essentially the largest production center of the Ukraine, it has factories and ports that other parts of the country doesn't have. Whichever of the two of them controls it will have a massive economic boost. I don't think Ukraine government should worry about Crimea ( it is all but gone ), they made many silly mistakes when they came to power antagonizing Russian - Ukrainians. Their problems are much bigger than that, right now there are protests all over Eastern Ukraine, people taking down Ukrainian flags putting Russian flags up. Western Ukraine cannot survive without the East alone, all the factories, all the production, most the economy is in the East. If they can't control it, they won't stay in power. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22487 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:51 LongShot27 wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26400035 Courtesy of the BBC Ukrainian Defence Minister Ihor Tenyukh said on Saturday there are now an extra 6,000 Russian troops in Crimea, alongside an additional 30 armoured vehicles. Nothing else in that piece actually mentions armies crossing into the Ukraine. | ||
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AleXoundOS
Georgia458 Posts
On March 02 2014 03:32 AA.spoon wrote: He is president by Ukrainian laws. There was no legit procedure of impeachment. But who cares if new acting "president" has support from EU. But theoretically parliament could try to do this even officially, their fault though if being at their side.Yanoukovich has been deposed by the parliament and is thus not a president anymore. | ||
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