This is a full blown invasion. Ukraine might have to declare war on Russia.
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zeonmx
United States111 Posts
This is a full blown invasion. Ukraine might have to declare war on Russia. | ||
m4ini
4215 Posts
On March 01 2014 23:50 AleXoundOS wrote: Sh*t is going on... The decision was approved by 100% of members. You seriously were surprised by that? | ||
zeo
Serbia6298 Posts
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zeonmx
United States111 Posts
Russian troops attempting take over Ukrainian military bases in Crimea | ||
Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
Not to mention they have driven in people from Russia, lol. | ||
AleXoundOS
Georgia457 Posts
Yes. | ||
Sent.
Poland9204 Posts
On March 01 2014 23:51 zeo wrote: Local government buildings taken by anti-junta protesters I don't understand how can you post images with Russian flags on Ukrainian teritory and call all this crap anit-junta movement. Why don't you put some swastikas above Kiev to make it look even better? | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Now i wonder too. Any russian sources on this Putin's suggestion being confirmed. And ofc, any russian source on these reports from foreign (relative to Russia) sources? | ||
m4ini
4215 Posts
After the duma already called for an "invasion" days ago? Wow. | ||
Gorsameth
Netherlands21736 Posts
Sickening to see how spineless our leadership has become. | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On March 01 2014 23:58 m4ini wrote: After the duma already called for an "invasion" days ago? Wow. Amount of dumb ideas our duma has is usually off the charts, you do not take duma's ideas seriously most of the time. | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On March 01 2014 23:58 Gorsameth wrote: And so it is once again shown that EU protection is a fucking joke. We will happily promise our protection but as soon as something bigger then a fly shows up we tuck our tails between our legs and run away. Sickening to see how spineless our leadership has become. I am fairly certain it was the same 70+ years ago too ^^ | ||
zeo
Serbia6298 Posts
On March 01 2014 23:57 Sent. wrote: I don't understand how can you post images with Russian flags on Ukrainian teritory and call all this crap anit-junta movement. Why don't you put some swastikas above Kiev to make it look even better? The people of Ukraine want Russia to protect them. Carrying around Russian flags is no different than carrying EU/US flags at Maidan | ||
johanes
Czech Republic2228 Posts
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Twoflowers
Germany241 Posts
On March 01 2014 23:58 Gorsameth wrote: And so it is once again shown that EU protection is a fucking joke. We will happily promise our protection but as soon as something bigger then a fly shows up we tuck our tails between our legs and run away. Sickening to see how spineless our leadership has become. What EU protection? We have no treaties with the Ukraine that would justify a military intervention. We also have no forces in Ukraine, while russia has a fucking naval base near the biggest crimean city. Economic threats at russia would probably not be enough to stop an invasion. So what exactly shoulod teh EU do? | ||
m4ini
4215 Posts
On March 01 2014 23:58 lolfail9001 wrote: Amount of dumb ideas our duma has is usually off the charts, you do not take duma's ideas seriously most of the time. Well, then let's say, everyone who did not trust russia in the first place wasn't surprised. | ||
hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On March 01 2014 23:58 Gorsameth wrote: And so it is once again shown that EU protection is a fucking joke. We will happily promise our protection but as soon as something bigger then a fly shows up we tuck our tails between our legs and run away. Sickening to see how spineless our leadership has become. EU protection means something if it's backed up by US power, which in practice it usually is. TBH, I don't think Russia can effectively go through with this, they will have to back down at some point. No point in sending troops to Ukraine and risk an armed conflict when there are less direct means to achieve the same goals. | ||
mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On March 01 2014 15:22 MyrMindservant wrote: Sigh, here we go again. I wish people would refrain from making statements about thing they don't understand. I'll have to repeat myself: "Ukrainian is the only official language in Ukraine. This is written in our constitution and was present there since we adopted it in 1996. And everything was fine, people still used Russian in all parts of Ukraine without a problem. They just had to use Ukrainian in some formal situations. In 2012, previous government decided to pass a law that would give Russian language a status of regional. Basically it would allow some regions to use Russian as official even though this contradicts our constitution. Practically, that law had very little impact because Russian was already used everywhere in those regions. Less than a week ago, parliament had a vote and that law was properly canceled as unconstitutional. Now, many forces are exaggerating this fact and making various scary stories even though we were living fine without that law for more than 16 years." Even though Russian doesn't have the status of official language, it has never stopped people from using it in official situations, like government and courts. It is one of the many norms in Ukraine that aren't enforced or enforced very loosely. That law was only pushed through by the previous government to increase its ratings among the pro-russian crowd. And in practice its cancellation hardly changes anything, just like when it was adopted. All these debates about the language issue are full of speculation, some parties are simply using it as an another instrument of propaganda. I do not doubt that practically it does not matter. Question is why was it a priority for the parliament at this time ? I would assume they have better things to do, I just take it as a sign of their priorities. | ||
zeonmx
United States111 Posts
![]() Russia just want entire Black Sea back. | ||
m4ini
4215 Posts
On March 02 2014 00:02 zeo wrote: The people of Ukraine want Russia to protect them. Carrying around Russian flags is no different than carrying EU/US flags at Maidan Sources for that, polls or something that show "what the people of Ukraine" want, or are you just pulling facts out of nowhere again? Edit: i mean it's cute, the first wave of protests is "euromaidan fascists against the world", and now it's "people of ukraine wanting to be rescued by mother russia". Just makes you look REALLY onedimensional. | ||
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