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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
October 28 2013 03:13 GMT
#21
it must have been nice to stand for over 12 hours
starleague forever
Debian
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
October 28 2013 03:13 GMT
#22
On October 28 2013 12:09 nGBeast wrote:
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On October 28 2013 11:56 Debian wrote:
On October 28 2013 11:54 nGBeast wrote:
This has happened at every tournament I can think of. I drove from chicago to MLG Providence finals in 2011 and didnt get a seat till the last day and watch naniwa get crushed.

it's not a big deal lets not make this drama


How is this not a "big deal"? You are paying $15 for 1 day of the event for seats but they don't have enough for everyone.



Because you're not paying for a seat, its entrance into a venue.


IDK How you can make that argument when the ticket name was "general seating".
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
October 28 2013 03:14 GMT
#23
On October 28 2013 12:09 Debian wrote:
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On October 28 2013 12:04 ninjamyst wrote:
It's common for events to have General Seating. There's no way they gonna assign seats to everyone. If you want assigned seats, you gonna have to pay up for VIP or Premium.


Like I said I don't think General seating is an issue. I just think they should figure out before hand how many chairs are available and sell enough tickets to fill those seats. You can sit anywhere in those seats, first come first serve. Once all the chairs are sold they should sell tickets for cheaper that you can stand or sit on the floor and watch on the big screen. If people don't show up after some time then they should reallocate the seats to someone else.

Next time buy premium if you want to sit down so much.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Debian
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
October 28 2013 03:15 GMT
#24
On October 28 2013 12:11 StarStruck wrote:
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On October 28 2013 11:42 Debian wrote:
What do you guys think about this. I went to WCS Finals today and I was fairly disappointed. They charge everyone the same price for tickets (for general entry) but they they don't give any numbered seats so anyone can sit anywhere and if you leave to get an autograph someone will take your seat. To make matters worse they grossly oversold tickets, there were at least 30-50 people standing around or trying to find seats or just standing and watching on one of the big screens at the back. This kinda made me mad because they are charging for you for seats but don't have enough to give everyone.

To make matters worse there were a LOT (at least in the first couple hours of the event) of free seats listed as "premium" seats that no one was using but they didn't allocate to people that were standing around.

IMO I think in the future they should sell tickets for the number of seats they have available and charge a cheaper ticket for people who want to stand or sit on the floor at the back and watch on the big screen, first come first serve and allocate the "premium" seats to some general ticket holders (after a certain time period) that are the closest and move people up and allow others to get seats.

What do you guys think?


I knew this would happen. I think it was to be expected from the turnouts on Friday and Saturday. Thank you for supporting the scene though. I recommend people bring their own chairs from home. Sometimes they don't allow them but many people did today.


There were actually people sneaking into the primum seating that were empty because they didn't want to stand around anymore. Some got removed but couple (I know of) made it. Rather silly people had to resort tot hat.
Debian
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
October 28 2013 03:16 GMT
#25
On October 28 2013 12:14 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:09 Debian wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:04 ninjamyst wrote:
It's common for events to have General Seating. There's no way they gonna assign seats to everyone. If you want assigned seats, you gonna have to pay up for VIP or Premium.


Like I said I don't think General seating is an issue. I just think they should figure out before hand how many chairs are available and sell enough tickets to fill those seats. You can sit anywhere in those seats, first come first serve. Once all the chairs are sold they should sell tickets for cheaper that you can stand or sit on the floor and watch on the big screen. If people don't show up after some time then they should reallocate the seats to someone else.

Next time buy premium if you want to sit down so much.


They don't sell premium seating for one day. They sold it for 3 days at once and it was something ridiculous like $120 or something.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46263 Posts
October 28 2013 03:17 GMT
#26
On October 28 2013 11:42 Debian wrote:
What do you guys think about this. I went to WCS Finals today and I was fairly disappointed. They charge everyone the same price for tickets (for general entry) but they they don't give any numbered seats so anyone can sit anywhere and if you leave to get an autograph someone will take your seat. To make matters worse they grossly oversold tickets, there were at least 30-50 people standing around or trying to find seats or just standing and watching on one of the big screens at the back. This kinda made me mad because they are charging for you for seats but don't have enough to give everyone.


They're not charging you for seats. They're charging you for entrance into the venue.

And yeah, occasionally you get a jerk who steals your seat, but if you leave a jacket on a chair or bring a friend and switch off getting up (so your friend can save your seat for you), there's rarely an issue.

Get a ticket ahead of time and get there early.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 28 2013 03:18 GMT
#27
On October 28 2013 12:15 Debian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:11 StarStruck wrote:
On October 28 2013 11:42 Debian wrote:
What do you guys think about this. I went to WCS Finals today and I was fairly disappointed. They charge everyone the same price for tickets (for general entry) but they they don't give any numbered seats so anyone can sit anywhere and if you leave to get an autograph someone will take your seat. To make matters worse they grossly oversold tickets, there were at least 30-50 people standing around or trying to find seats or just standing and watching on one of the big screens at the back. This kinda made me mad because they are charging for you for seats but don't have enough to give everyone.

To make matters worse there were a LOT (at least in the first couple hours of the event) of free seats listed as "premium" seats that no one was using but they didn't allocate to people that were standing around.

IMO I think in the future they should sell tickets for the number of seats they have available and charge a cheaper ticket for people who want to stand or sit on the floor at the back and watch on the big screen, first come first serve and allocate the "premium" seats to some general ticket holders (after a certain time period) that are the closest and move people up and allow others to get seats.

What do you guys think?


I knew this would happen. I think it was to be expected from the turnouts on Friday and Saturday. Thank you for supporting the scene though. I recommend people bring their own chairs from home. Sometimes they don't allow them but many people did today.


There were actually people sneaking into the primum seating that were empty because they didn't want to stand around anymore. Some got removed but couple (I know of) made it. Rather silly people had to resort tot hat.


That normally happens though at events. ;/
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 28 2013 03:18 GMT
#28
Clearly you haven't seen BW days of seating, fans are willing to stand around for hours and hours just to watch a game and I don't think anyone ever complained about anything like this before.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 28 2013 03:20 GMT
#29
On October 28 2013 12:18 Caihead wrote:
Clearly you haven't seen BW days of seating, fans are willing to stand around for hours and hours just to watch a game and I don't think anyone ever complained about anything like this before.


That passion. This guy knows. All sorts of fun stories about that and the fan clubs.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 28 2013 03:21 GMT
#30
On October 28 2013 12:20 StarStruck wrote:
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On October 28 2013 12:18 Caihead wrote:
Clearly you haven't seen BW days of seating, fans are willing to stand around for hours and hours just to watch a game and I don't think anyone ever complained about anything like this before.


That passion. This guy knows. All sorts of fun stories about that and the fan clubs.


Best was still the endless tie breakers, fans who stayed for that, oh man.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 03:24:18
October 28 2013 03:23 GMT
#31
I'm confused. Do you think that they should stop selling tickets once they run out of chairs? That would spoil the fun for all of the people who just want to go to watch the game. Clearly they did not anticipate that the venue would be so popular. You were pretty free to sit where you wanted, besides the premium area and areas that would block people's view or obstruct passage. You could have brought your own chair, I saw many people doing that and putting them wherever they wanted.

I fully agree about the premium seats and how many of them were empty though, what a waste. I like the idea about changing how that system works.

Besides that and the obvious lack of foreigners, there were few problems with the venue and I enjoyed the event more than the previous NASL in Toronto, and hope you enjoyed it as well.
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46263 Posts
October 28 2013 03:23 GMT
#32
On October 28 2013 12:13 Debian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:09 nGBeast wrote:
On October 28 2013 11:56 Debian wrote:
On October 28 2013 11:54 nGBeast wrote:
This has happened at every tournament I can think of. I drove from chicago to MLG Providence finals in 2011 and didnt get a seat till the last day and watch naniwa get crushed.

it's not a big deal lets not make this drama


How is this not a "big deal"? You are paying $15 for 1 day of the event for seats but they don't have enough for everyone.



Because you're not paying for a seat, its entrance into a venue.


IDK How you can make that argument when the ticket name was "general seating".


Because unless your ticket has a seat number corresponding to a specific labeled seat (like tickets to a sports game), General Seating just means You Can Come In But You're Not Special :/
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
October 28 2013 03:24 GMT
#33
On October 28 2013 12:14 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:09 Debian wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:04 ninjamyst wrote:
It's common for events to have General Seating. There's no way they gonna assign seats to everyone. If you want assigned seats, you gonna have to pay up for VIP or Premium.


Like I said I don't think General seating is an issue. I just think they should figure out before hand how many chairs are available and sell enough tickets to fill those seats. You can sit anywhere in those seats, first come first serve. Once all the chairs are sold they should sell tickets for cheaper that you can stand or sit on the floor and watch on the big screen. If people don't show up after some time then they should reallocate the seats to someone else.

Next time buy premium if you want to sit down so much.


I'm pretty sure the premium seats sold out really fast though
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46263 Posts
October 28 2013 03:25 GMT
#34
On October 28 2013 12:23 dgwow wrote:
I'm confused. Do you think that they should stop selling tickets once they run out of chairs? That would spoil the fun for all of the people who just want to go to watch the game. Clearly they did not anticipate that the venue would be so popular. You were pretty free to sit where you wanted, besides the premium area and areas that would block people's view or obstruct passage. You could have brought your own chair, I saw many people doing that and putting them wherever they wanted.


Agreed. Also, what about the people who buy a ticket and only stay a half day? That should prevent other people who want to come for the second half of the day from getting in at all (because X number of tickets have already been sold)? o.O Sounds silly.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
October 28 2013 03:25 GMT
#35
Sounds like a good problem to have
Debian
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
October 28 2013 03:26 GMT
#36
On October 28 2013 12:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:13 Debian wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:09 nGBeast wrote:
On October 28 2013 11:56 Debian wrote:
On October 28 2013 11:54 nGBeast wrote:
This has happened at every tournament I can think of. I drove from chicago to MLG Providence finals in 2011 and didnt get a seat till the last day and watch naniwa get crushed.

it's not a big deal lets not make this drama


How is this not a "big deal"? You are paying $15 for 1 day of the event for seats but they don't have enough for everyone.



Because you're not paying for a seat, its entrance into a venue.


IDK How you can make that argument when the ticket name was "general seating".


Because unless your ticket has a seat number corresponding to a specific labeled seat (like tickets to a sports game), General Seating just means You Can Come In But You're Not Special :/


I don't see why it has to mean that. I think it mean more like there are you have a one ticket for seats and can sit anywhere in the general seating area.
JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
October 28 2013 03:27 GMT
#37
On October 28 2013 12:16 Debian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:14 T.O.P. wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:09 Debian wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:04 ninjamyst wrote:
It's common for events to have General Seating. There's no way they gonna assign seats to everyone. If you want assigned seats, you gonna have to pay up for VIP or Premium.


Like I said I don't think General seating is an issue. I just think they should figure out before hand how many chairs are available and sell enough tickets to fill those seats. You can sit anywhere in those seats, first come first serve. Once all the chairs are sold they should sell tickets for cheaper that you can stand or sit on the floor and watch on the big screen. If people don't show up after some time then they should reallocate the seats to someone else.

Next time buy premium if you want to sit down so much.


They don't sell premium seating for one day. They sold it for 3 days at once and it was something ridiculous like $120 or something.

Errr no, it was actually half of that. Total after taxes for a premium pass was $64.29.

On October 28 2013 12:08 PhoenixHope wrote:
Well I bought a premium ticket and went home to watch it because I don't like a pillar blocking the main screen. I couldn't see shit in 4 diff spots. Premium tickets are being sold premium seats, but 3/5 aren't so premium. That's probably why nobody was using them mentioned in the first one. Also plenty of ppl with standard tickets that took premium seats. If you had no seat and told one of the workers there, he would just walk up to the edge seats and say show me your tickets and remove a few of them, but that was only on the sides where it is easier to pass. When I get neck pain I get a headache too, so I just had to leave. Personally I had no fun, of course you can see many people did.

It sucks you had this experience. I will say the set-up was not the best with the main screen being so low.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 28 2013 03:27 GMT
#38
On October 28 2013 12:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:23 dgwow wrote:
I'm confused. Do you think that they should stop selling tickets once they run out of chairs? That would spoil the fun for all of the people who just want to go to watch the game. Clearly they did not anticipate that the venue would be so popular. You were pretty free to sit where you wanted, besides the premium area and areas that would block people's view or obstruct passage. You could have brought your own chair, I saw many people doing that and putting them wherever they wanted.


Agreed. Also, what about the people who buy a ticket and only stay a half day? That should prevent other people who want to come for the second half of the day from getting in at all (because X number of tickets have already been sold)? o.O Sounds silly.


I'll speak for myself and my buddies when I say we were going in and out constantly.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
October 28 2013 03:32 GMT
#39
What is premium seat? Why nobody is sitting there?
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 28 2013 03:34 GMT
#40
On October 28 2013 12:32 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
What is premium seat? Why nobody is sitting there?


Go to a Toronto Maple Leaf game and then you'll understand, hue. I kid, I kid but the Leafs are extremely corporate.
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