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Debian
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
October 28 2013 04:12 GMT
#81
On October 28 2013 13:09 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
Just looking back at the announcement about tickets, they were labelled as "Premium Seating" and "General Admission" so as a lot of people are saying it does seem to imply general was for entrance to the venue.


Except they sold the tickets as general seating tickets, not general admission. General seating is a much diff than general admission.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45051 Posts
October 28 2013 04:13 GMT
#82
On October 28 2013 13:12 ChristianS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 11:54 nGBeast wrote:
This has happened at every tournament I can think of. I drove from chicago to MLG Providence finals in 2011 and didnt get a seat till the last day and watch naniwa get crushed.

it's not a big deal lets not make this drama

Spoilers!


Dude I heard FruitDealer beat Rainbow.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 04:15:28
October 28 2013 04:14 GMT
#83
https://web.archive.org/web/20130927032516/https://wcstoronto.eventbrite.com

It says General Admission and only guarantees seating for Premium Passes. Then again, maybe they worded differently for tickets that were sold at the venue.

Edit: Hmm well they do say "Seating will be divided into sections: premium and general." I don't know....it is what it is.
Debian
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
October 28 2013 04:16 GMT
#84
On October 28 2013 13:14 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130927032516/https://wcstoronto.eventbrite.com

It says General Admission and only guarantees seating for Premium Passes. Then again, maybe they worded differently for tickets that were sold at the venue.


Not really. It just says the general seating doesn't assign you a seat and that you can sit anywhere in the general seating section and if you get up someone else can take your spot. It doesn't say that there isn't a guaranteed seat for either premium or general seating.
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
October 28 2013 04:17 GMT
#85
On October 28 2013 13:14 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130927032516/https://wcstoronto.eventbrite.com

It says General Admission and only guarantees seating for Premium Passes. Then again, maybe they worded differently for tickets that were sold at the venue.

Edit: Hmm well they do say "Seating will be divided into sections: premium and general." I don't know....it is what it is.

You had to get the 3 day premium package to get the front seats. I think this was to have a good sized crowd for the cameras each day.
Nightsz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada398 Posts
October 28 2013 04:22 GMT
#86
You could've complained about not being able to see or how Day9 chose to get intimate with the 10% of the people who got autographs and pictures while the 90% waited 3hrs in line just for a high five or the lack of food vendors.

Instead you complain about seating because you were late to the event and didn't have the confidence to ask strangers whether or not the seat next to them was taken.

wow.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 28 2013 04:23 GMT
#87
On October 28 2013 13:17 Marcus420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:14 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130927032516/https://wcstoronto.eventbrite.com

It says General Admission and only guarantees seating for Premium Passes. Then again, maybe they worded differently for tickets that were sold at the venue.

Edit: Hmm well they do say "Seating will be divided into sections: premium and general." I don't know....it is what it is.

You had to get the 3 day premium package to get the front seats. I think this was to have a good sized crowd for the cameras each day.


No, it's just normal for these type of events to sell them this way. Whether it be conventions or races like Formula 1/Indy. It's just common practice.
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
October 28 2013 04:30 GMT
#88
Don't buy VIP/Premium passes at E-sports events on the purpose that you will have a reserve seat because it is not happening. The passes I had extended to every game.

I won VIP passes to this year's MLG Anahiem. For the most part people who didn't have passes did not go to the VIP area for the SC2 side, but it wasn't being enforced at all especially at the League section.

At convention centers there is company staff and convention center staff. The convention center staff doesn't give a shit, they don't know whats up and they are usually there to enforce these kinds of things.
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 28 2013 04:34 GMT
#89
Limited chairs probably due to fire safety regulations.
triforks
Profile Joined November 2010
United States370 Posts
October 28 2013 04:37 GMT
#90
Yea I feel like it was really hard for a lot of people to even have a good view of any of the screens due to this problem. It made the event much less fun to watch when you can barely see what is going on. :/
Debian
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
October 28 2013 04:37 GMT
#91
On October 28 2013 13:22 Nightsz wrote:
You could've complained about not being able to see or how Day9 chose to get intimate with the 10% of the people who got autographs and pictures while the 90% waited 3hrs in line just for a high five or the lack of food vendors.

Instead you complain about seating because you were late to the event and didn't have the confidence to ask strangers whether or not the seat next to them was taken.

wow.


Because IMO this is a bigger issue. You aren't paying a ticket to get Day9 sig, you're paying a ticket to get seats to watch SC2.

If they put seating not guaranteed in the ticket I wouldn't have complained, but they didn't.
FosTA
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada154 Posts
October 28 2013 04:39 GMT
#92
On October 28 2013 13:34 FabledIntegral wrote:
Limited chairs probably due to fire safety regulations.


Having done events that required fire safety...

Room can hold - 1,000 people Standing
Same room can only hold - 500 people sitting
but if you do half and half - 200 sitting 700 standing.
you get more people with some sitting and rest standing.
*Random numbers but you get the point.

You always aim for the most amount of people that could come to the event and still be comfy. If you do sitting only then you are going to lose out on sales and no company wants to lose out on sales.
FosTA | LgN - Pulse - LYGF - MgZ - Exist |StarCraft Manager
FosTA
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada154 Posts
October 28 2013 04:44 GMT
#93
On October 28 2013 13:37 Debian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:22 Nightsz wrote:
You could've complained about not being able to see or how Day9 chose to get intimate with the 10% of the people who got autographs and pictures while the 90% waited 3hrs in line just for a high five or the lack of food vendors.

Instead you complain about seating because you were late to the event and didn't have the confidence to ask strangers whether or not the seat next to them was taken.

wow.


Because IMO this is a bigger issue. You aren't paying a ticket to get Day9 sig, you're paying a ticket to get seats to watch SC2.

If they put seating not guaranteed in the ticket I wouldn't have complained, but they didn't.


It should be a given. Not every ticket you buy must include a what to bring list or what to expect. You are going to a live event that does not have assigned seating like if you were to go to a hockey game at the ACC.

Its more like going to the bar on a Friday night. You should expect to be standing while you drink your beer. And if you get lucky and get a seat perfect. Or go to the bar earlier before the big rush and get a seat.
FosTA | LgN - Pulse - LYGF - MgZ - Exist |StarCraft Manager
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 28 2013 04:44 GMT
#94
On October 28 2013 13:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:12 ChristianS wrote:
On October 28 2013 11:54 nGBeast wrote:
This has happened at every tournament I can think of. I drove from chicago to MLG Providence finals in 2011 and didnt get a seat till the last day and watch naniwa get crushed.

it's not a big deal lets not make this drama

Spoilers!


Dude I heard FruitDealer beat Rainbow.


Don't get me started on Rainbow.
Debian
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
October 28 2013 04:46 GMT
#95
On October 28 2013 13:39 FosTA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:34 FabledIntegral wrote:
Limited chairs probably due to fire safety regulations.


Having done events that required fire safety...

Room can hold - 1,000 people Standing
Same room can only hold - 500 people sitting
but if you do half and half - 200 sitting 700 standing.
you get more people with some sitting and rest standing.
*Random numbers but you get the point.

You always aim for the most amount of people that could come to the event and still be comfy. If you do sitting only then you are going to lose out on sales and no company wants to lose out on sales.



I still can't believe how many people continue to miss what I'm saying...
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 04:54:36
October 28 2013 04:50 GMT
#96
On October 28 2013 11:49 KanoCoke wrote:
I think that's a good idea.

But I don't think the staff expected this sort of thing to happen, which is why they were unprepared. They could have definitely dealt with this better though.

Hopefully they get it all good for Blizzcon.


BlizzCon is general seating. And they put on the main stage a ton of view screens for overseating.

I hope they move the SC2 stage to the main stage for the finals so more people can view the live stage. But I doubt they have the time and logistics to move all the production in a short period of time.

Get there early and work with a group of friends for seating. I think I got to good GSL finals seats 90 minutes early... since its only one tournament this year and its right after another, seating is going to be fierce this year.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
October 28 2013 05:49 GMT
#97
On October 28 2013 12:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Because unless your ticket has a seat number corresponding to a specific labeled seat (like tickets to a sports game), General Seating just means You Can Come In But You're Not Special :/


I was at the event and I think this thread is stupid.
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