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On June 12 2013 20:54 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:43 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 20:42 CubEdIn wrote:On June 12 2013 20:36 Go0g3n wrote:
Couldn't find much about it in the russian media, read it first here. I for one am for equal rights, however I do think that being gay is some sort of genetic disorder or whatever.
Until i find the copy of the law (which should be digitally published), I wouldn't believe BBC on this one, Russians aren't that stupid, although I met a number of anti-gay "thinkers". Since you bothered to answer, is the speech about minorities true (that Putin gave, I think)? Meaning the one where it was stated that there will be no secondary language in Russia and everyone who lives there will learn Russian or can feel free to GTFO? Apparently it was met with standing ovations. I'm just curious if the war against minorities of any kind is as severe as the media makes it out to be. It's not war against minorities. It's being equal with the native population. What do you mean? Yes, it's not a war because they're not forcing anyone to stay in Russia, but if you're not allowed to teach your child about sexuality it's pretty clear that there is a strong bias against homosexuality, which is also a minority. You can't force a gay person to be "equal" with the rest. Not saying that I agree with different "official" languages in the same country, if they choose to keep it at one that's fine, I was just curious on how accurate the media depicts these events.
I've stated that I've nothing against homosexuals, but making them feel special promotes inequality as they have the "moral high ground"
HOWEVER: My personal opinion: let them get married and adopt and whatever I don't really give a shit as long as they stop going all "gay pride world wide" on my face.
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On June 12 2013 20:54 Christ the Redeemer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:50 DonKey_ wrote:On June 12 2013 20:37 Christ the Redeemer wrote:On June 12 2013 20:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Nevermind, your name is Christ the Redeemer... -_- This is the bias I am talking about. FYI, Christ the Redeemer is a landmark in my country! For you not to even recognize that speaks volumes about your cultural ignorance. I have no problem if a person supports Satanism, unicorns, socialism, orthodox catholicism, believing in Catholic miracles, doing pagan rituals, whatever, but I have a problem when people are immediately disadvantaged in a discussion. The framing of this OP immediately puts the orthodox catholics at a disadvantage. Do you realize that by allowing someone to support intolerance you become a hypocrite to what you are saying? The problem with allowing someone to support an intolerant agenda is that they then censor, among other things, the group they are intolerant against. There is no "middle ground" where the hateful/intolerant and the tolerant can coexist. The hateful/intolerant actively seek to destroy the other group. The tolerant can tolerate the other. While the intolerant does not allow the other to even express its opinion. The discussion here except for the two Russians is intolerant of opposing views.
On June 12 2013 20:51 Christ the Redeemer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:45 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:On June 12 2013 20:37 Christ the Redeemer wrote:On June 12 2013 20:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Nevermind, your name is Christ the Redeemer... -_- This is the bias I am talking about. FYI, Christ the Redeemer is a landmark in my country! For you not to even recognize that speaks volumes about your cultural ignorance. I have no problem if a person supports Satanism, unicorns, socialism, orthodox catholicism, believing in Catholic miracles, doing pagan rituals, whatever, but I have a problem when people are immediately disadvantaged in a discussion. The framing of this OP immediately puts the orthodox catholics at a disadvantage. There are hundreds of years worth of discourse on this, and it is all under the bridge. Done. No further discussion necessary. Discriminating people because of their race, creed, and gender is morally indefensible. Society has grown much since the Inquisition, and we have become a more tolerant society. To even start to argue about religious justification of bigotry is worthy of hell, it's a shame it does not exist. Do your research, you have the power to liberate yourself from ignorance. So far in this thread, there are 2 Russians, and they are both in favor of the law, Can we at least listen to them
Would you want to listen to 2 racist guys tell you why it's good to be racist?
Somebody ban this troll please.
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On June 12 2013 20:47 xM(Z wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:40 cloneThorN wrote:On June 12 2013 20:34 xM(Z wrote:
i'm 50/50 about this but then again i would keep everyone under 18yrs (yes i know its arbitrary but it's the number used by russians) in the dark about everything related to sexuality. i feel bad for westerners trying to make sex at 13 legal.
besides, the church assumes you're not having sex until you get married anyway so there is plenty of time to learn about it after 18.
it is discrimination but i don't know why, telling a preteen that he is gay, is always the right call. it may help him but it also may screw him over. You DO realize, that whatever you want it or not, most humans begins to f!ck like rabbits around the age of 16 years, right? If no one teaches them about sex before that time, they are gonna be vulnarable to STD's. Teaching about sex is done because it's necessary for the childrens well being, not because we want to f!ck them. sex at an early age is facilitated by society via information and ... gadgets. did your (grand)grandparents start having sex ~16?.
Yes. They absolutely did. The longer you go back in history, the earier they begang to bang eachother.
An example. My greatgrandmother had a child with a german soldier in ww2, at the age of 15.
My grandmother started "dateing" as in banging with some local boys, at the age of 15 too.
My father accidently impregnated an older student, when he was 14...
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On June 12 2013 20:59 AxUU wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:54 CubEdIn wrote:On June 12 2013 20:43 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 20:42 CubEdIn wrote:On June 12 2013 20:36 Go0g3n wrote:
Couldn't find much about it in the russian media, read it first here. I for one am for equal rights, however I do think that being gay is some sort of genetic disorder or whatever.
Until i find the copy of the law (which should be digitally published), I wouldn't believe BBC on this one, Russians aren't that stupid, although I met a number of anti-gay "thinkers". Since you bothered to answer, is the speech about minorities true (that Putin gave, I think)? Meaning the one where it was stated that there will be no secondary language in Russia and everyone who lives there will learn Russian or can feel free to GTFO? Apparently it was met with standing ovations. I'm just curious if the war against minorities of any kind is as severe as the media makes it out to be. It's not war against minorities. It's being equal with the native population. What do you mean? Yes, it's not a war because they're not forcing anyone to stay in Russia, but if you're not allowed to teach your child about sexuality it's pretty clear that there is a strong bias against homosexuality, which is also a minority. You can't force a gay person to be "equal" with the rest. Not saying that I agree with different "official" languages in the same country, if they choose to keep it at one that's fine, I was just curious on how accurate the media depicts these events. I've stated that I've nothing against homosexuals, but making them feel special promotes inequality as they have the "moral high ground" HOWEVER: My personal opinion: let them get married and adopt and whatever I don't really give a shit as long as they stop going all "gay pride world wide" on my face.
The reason they're going all "gay pride world wide" on your face is because they're not allowed to get married and adopt and whatever.
Try to see the bigger picture.
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On June 12 2013 20:29 AxUU wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:12 cloneThorN wrote:On June 12 2013 20:04 Sword of Omens wrote:On June 12 2013 19:42 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The recent gay pride parade suffered a heavy and violent blow after people threw eggs and water at gay rights movement activists and participants of the parade. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/B5wkYTm.jpg) Got this from my feed this morning! This is beyond unbelievable! Wow... What kind of sick freak throws eggs at peaceful protesters, even aiming for their head at such a distance? They are just asking for equal rights, they are not trying to somehow magically convert people into gayness(?). Meanwhile, fanatic douschebags like the guy in this photo, are attacking them for no other reason than seeing the protesters as inferior creatures. Can't America "liberate" Russia? They have gas and oil you know  I don't think America actually is capable of doing that. But that aside, most gay people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how gay they are and how it's good to be gay which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm gay and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the picture, don't even know why.
But that aside, most straight people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how straight they are and how it's good to be straight which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm straight and I say that I'm not.
Btw I laughed at the fact that you laughed at innocent, peaceful people being attacked, don't even know why.
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The BBC source says:
"providing information about homosexuality to people under 18." [1]
The Independent sources say:
"propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations”
"spreading information aimed at forming non- traditional sexual behaviour among children, suggesting this behaviour is attractive [...]" [1, 2]
German sources I read (Rianovosti) also use the 2nd one.
While it's still very strange, I think this suggests that the title & op is wrong. You're (probably? Oh wait it's Russia we must hate!) not getting fined for mentioning homosexuality & explaining it.
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On June 12 2013 21:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:29 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 20:12 cloneThorN wrote:On June 12 2013 20:04 Sword of Omens wrote:On June 12 2013 19:42 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The recent gay pride parade suffered a heavy and violent blow after people threw eggs and water at gay rights movement activists and participants of the parade. Got this from my feed this morning! This is beyond unbelievable! Wow... What kind of sick freak throws eggs at peaceful protesters, even aiming for their head at such a distance? They are just asking for equal rights, they are not trying to somehow magically convert people into gayness(?). Meanwhile, fanatic douschebags like the guy in this photo, are attacking them for no other reason than seeing the protesters as inferior creatures. Can't America "liberate" Russia? They have gas and oil you know I don't think America actually is capable of doing that. But that aside, most gay people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how gay they are and how it's good to be gay which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm gay and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the picture, don't even know why. But that aside, most straight people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how straight they are and how it's good to be straight which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm straight and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the fact that you laughed at innocent, peaceful people being attacked, don't even know why.
Most straight people don't go about parading how straight they are etc. Atleast I have NEVER heard anyone say that.
You must be from reddit.
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On June 12 2013 20:54 Christ the Redeemer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:50 DonKey_ wrote:On June 12 2013 20:37 Christ the Redeemer wrote:On June 12 2013 20:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Nevermind, your name is Christ the Redeemer... -_- This is the bias I am talking about. FYI, Christ the Redeemer is a landmark in my country! For you not to even recognize that speaks volumes about your cultural ignorance. I have no problem if a person supports Satanism, unicorns, socialism, orthodox catholicism, believing in Catholic miracles, doing pagan rituals, whatever, but I have a problem when people are immediately disadvantaged in a discussion. The framing of this OP immediately puts the orthodox catholics at a disadvantage. Do you realize that by allowing someone to support intolerance you become a hypocrite to what you are saying? The problem with allowing someone to support an intolerant agenda is that they then censor, among other things, the group they are intolerant against. There is no "middle ground" where the hateful/intolerant and the tolerant can coexist. The hateful/intolerant actively seek to destroy the other group. The tolerant can tolerate the other. While the intolerant does not allow the other to even express its opinion. The discussion here except for the two Russians is intolerant of opposing views.
No you lack knowledge of this situation or you conveniently overlook it. The "two Russians of opposing views" hold views that do not tolerate someone, that is where the entire problem stems.
The problem does not begin with someone existing as a gay individual, it begins when outside forces, for example the two Russians in this thread, do not treat an existence tolerably.
There is no tolerance for intolerance. I can see however that you conveniently overlook details when they are not beneficial to your cause of supporting anti-gay individuals.
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On June 12 2013 21:05 AxUU wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 21:03 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2013 20:29 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 20:12 cloneThorN wrote:On June 12 2013 20:04 Sword of Omens wrote:On June 12 2013 19:42 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The recent gay pride parade suffered a heavy and violent blow after people threw eggs and water at gay rights movement activists and participants of the parade. Got this from my feed this morning! This is beyond unbelievable! Wow... What kind of sick freak throws eggs at peaceful protesters, even aiming for their head at such a distance? They are just asking for equal rights, they are not trying to somehow magically convert people into gayness(?). Meanwhile, fanatic douschebags like the guy in this photo, are attacking them for no other reason than seeing the protesters as inferior creatures. Can't America "liberate" Russia? They have gas and oil you know I don't think America actually is capable of doing that. But that aside, most gay people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how gay they are and how it's good to be gay which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm gay and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the picture, don't even know why. But that aside, most straight people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how straight they are and how it's good to be straight which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm straight and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the fact that you laughed at innocent, peaceful people being attacked, don't even know why. Most straight people don't go about parading how straight they are etc. Atleast I have NEVER heard anyone say that. You must be from reddit.
Nor do most gay people.
The status quo is straight people 'parading' how straight they are. Look at practically all advertisements, tv shows, music, whatever you like.
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On June 12 2013 21:06 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 21:05 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 21:03 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2013 20:29 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 20:12 cloneThorN wrote:On June 12 2013 20:04 Sword of Omens wrote:On June 12 2013 19:42 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The recent gay pride parade suffered a heavy and violent blow after people threw eggs and water at gay rights movement activists and participants of the parade. Got this from my feed this morning! This is beyond unbelievable! Wow... What kind of sick freak throws eggs at peaceful protesters, even aiming for their head at such a distance? They are just asking for equal rights, they are not trying to somehow magically convert people into gayness(?). Meanwhile, fanatic douschebags like the guy in this photo, are attacking them for no other reason than seeing the protesters as inferior creatures. Can't America "liberate" Russia? They have gas and oil you know I don't think America actually is capable of doing that. But that aside, most gay people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how gay they are and how it's good to be gay which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm gay and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the picture, don't even know why. But that aside, most straight people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how straight they are and how it's good to be straight which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm straight and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the fact that you laughed at innocent, peaceful people being attacked, don't even know why. Most straight people don't go about parading how straight they are etc. Atleast I have NEVER heard anyone say that. You must be from reddit. Nor do most gay people. The status quo is straight people 'parading' how straight they are. Look at practically all advertisements, tv shows, music, whatever you like.
Sex does sell, and seeing as most people are straight, that's just a fact, making ads or w/e that appeal to straight people is more profitable than making ads that appeal to gay people.
It is all about the money in advertisements, tv shows and music nowadays.
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On June 12 2013 21:04 Zocat wrote:The BBC source says: "providing information about homosexuality to people under 18." [ 1] The Independent sources say: "propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations” "spreading information aimed at forming non- traditional sexual behaviour among children, suggesting this behaviour is attractive [...]" [ 1, 2] German sources I read (Rianovosti) also use the 2nd one. While it's still very strange, I think this suggests that the title & op is wrong. You're (probably? Oh wait it's Russia we must hate!) not getting fined for mentioning homosexuality & explaining it.
The BBC has been anti-Russia for a long time now. This is why you always need to get your news from multiple sources 
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I'm not sure how to phrase this, but I too am tired of all the LBGT rhetoric, especially on the Internet, where it's impossible to discuss the subject objectively. See, I do support their fight for rights, and I have had gay friends.
However, why are some people glorifying the LBGT movement? TBH it's annoying me as much as the preachers that go about spewing whatever. I'm not even religious (maybe Agnostic), and yet I believe that the gift of human life, through consummation between a man and woman, is precious beyond belief. Both orthodox religion and homosexuality does kinda detract from the human race's progression IMO. Of course, I'm not demeaning all their contributions, just that I feel there's a fundamental flaw in the inability to produce a new human life.
To me, homosexuals are an unfortunate circumstance of how the world works. Yes, they absolutely should enjoy the same rights as everyone else, I'm all for that, but there's no need to go about glorifying it. It has been stated that homosexuality is not a disorder, I acknowledge that, but deep down I do wish that it was, and that it could be "cured".
This is my personal belief. It might offend many, but, well. :/
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Not to those who follow events in Russia. The country is less and less democratic
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On June 12 2013 21:09 AxUU wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 21:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2013 21:05 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 21:03 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2013 20:29 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 20:12 cloneThorN wrote:On June 12 2013 20:04 Sword of Omens wrote:On June 12 2013 19:42 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The recent gay pride parade suffered a heavy and violent blow after people threw eggs and water at gay rights movement activists and participants of the parade. Got this from my feed this morning! This is beyond unbelievable! Wow... What kind of sick freak throws eggs at peaceful protesters, even aiming for their head at such a distance? They are just asking for equal rights, they are not trying to somehow magically convert people into gayness(?). Meanwhile, fanatic douschebags like the guy in this photo, are attacking them for no other reason than seeing the protesters as inferior creatures. Can't America "liberate" Russia? They have gas and oil you know I don't think America actually is capable of doing that. But that aside, most gay people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how gay they are and how it's good to be gay which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm gay and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the picture, don't even know why. But that aside, most straight people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how straight they are and how it's good to be straight which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm straight and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the fact that you laughed at innocent, peaceful people being attacked, don't even know why. Most straight people don't go about parading how straight they are etc. Atleast I have NEVER heard anyone say that. You must be from reddit. Nor do most gay people. The status quo is straight people 'parading' how straight they are. Look at practically all advertisements, tv shows, music, whatever you like. Sex does sell, and seeing as most people are straight, that's just a fact, making ads or w/e that appeal to straight people is more profitable than making ads that appeal to gay people. It is all about the money in advertisements, tv shows and music nowadays.
I'm not disputing that, but your assertion is that gay people shove it in people's faces (by and large, we do not) whereas the reality is the other way round (which is fine, I'm not complaining about it).
Groups of people talk about sex all the time, and almost always it will reference the opposite sex, because that's the majority. Gays don't complain about it because there's nothing to complain about, but it's rather irksome when straight people like you complain about having 'gay' shoved down your throat, when the converse is everyday reality for gay people.
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On June 12 2013 21:05 AxUU wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 21:03 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2013 20:29 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 20:12 cloneThorN wrote:On June 12 2013 20:04 Sword of Omens wrote:On June 12 2013 19:42 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The recent gay pride parade suffered a heavy and violent blow after people threw eggs and water at gay rights movement activists and participants of the parade. Got this from my feed this morning! This is beyond unbelievable! Wow... What kind of sick freak throws eggs at peaceful protesters, even aiming for their head at such a distance? They are just asking for equal rights, they are not trying to somehow magically convert people into gayness(?). Meanwhile, fanatic douschebags like the guy in this photo, are attacking them for no other reason than seeing the protesters as inferior creatures. Can't America "liberate" Russia? They have gas and oil you know I don't think America actually is capable of doing that. But that aside, most gay people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how gay they are and how it's good to be gay which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm gay and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the picture, don't even know why. But that aside, most straight people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how straight they are and how it's good to be straight which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm straight and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the fact that you laughed at innocent, peaceful people being attacked, don't even know why. Most straight people don't go about parading how straight they are etc. Atleast I have NEVER heard anyone say that. You must be from reddit.
so you have never heard guys talking about how hot they find women x or y or women dressing up to attract men, men dressing up to attract women?
do you live under a rock? the whole world is nothing else but "displaying how straight they are". its all about sex and sexuality, every single bit we do.
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On June 12 2013 21:15 mijagi182 wrote:Not to those who follow events in Russia. The country is less and less democratic
According to Vtsiom 88 % support the new law. So the it's obviously the democratic will of people or at least 88 % of them which is more than enough to pass it.
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On June 12 2013 21:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 21:09 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 21:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2013 21:05 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 21:03 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2013 20:29 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 20:12 cloneThorN wrote:On June 12 2013 20:04 Sword of Omens wrote:On June 12 2013 19:42 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The recent gay pride parade suffered a heavy and violent blow after people threw eggs and water at gay rights movement activists and participants of the parade. Got this from my feed this morning! This is beyond unbelievable! Wow... What kind of sick freak throws eggs at peaceful protesters, even aiming for their head at such a distance? They are just asking for equal rights, they are not trying to somehow magically convert people into gayness(?). Meanwhile, fanatic douschebags like the guy in this photo, are attacking them for no other reason than seeing the protesters as inferior creatures. Can't America "liberate" Russia? They have gas and oil you know I don't think America actually is capable of doing that. But that aside, most gay people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how gay they are and how it's good to be gay which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm gay and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the picture, don't even know why. But that aside, most straight people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how straight they are and how it's good to be straight which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm straight and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the fact that you laughed at innocent, peaceful people being attacked, don't even know why. Most straight people don't go about parading how straight they are etc. Atleast I have NEVER heard anyone say that. You must be from reddit. Nor do most gay people. The status quo is straight people 'parading' how straight they are. Look at practically all advertisements, tv shows, music, whatever you like. Sex does sell, and seeing as most people are straight, that's just a fact, making ads or w/e that appeal to straight people is more profitable than making ads that appeal to gay people. It is all about the money in advertisements, tv shows and music nowadays. I'm not disputing that, but your assertion is that gay people shove it in people's faces (by and large, we do not) whereas the reality is the other way round (which is fine, I'm not complaining about it). Groups of people talk about sex all the time, and almost always it will reference the opposite sex, because that's the majority. Gays don't complain about it because there's nothing to complain about, but it's rather irksome when straight people like you complain about having 'gay' shoved down your throat, when the converse is everyday reality for gay people.
Please do note that I'm simply speaking from my own experiences, if most gay people aren't doing that in the UK, it's IMO a good thing, I don't have anything against being gay, but to some (not all) it does quite seem like a religion. Which is still all fine, but it occasionally gets out of hand, in Finland we do have anti-straight gay bars.
so you have never heard guys talking about how hot they find women x or y or women dressing up to attract men, men dressing up to attract women?
do you live under a rock? the whole world is nothing else but "displaying how straight they are". its all about sex and sexuality, every single bit we do.
Of course it is, but gay people dress up to attract other gay people too, don't they.
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On June 12 2013 21:20 AxUU wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 21:15 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2013 21:09 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 21:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2013 21:05 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 21:03 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2013 20:29 AxUU wrote:On June 12 2013 20:12 cloneThorN wrote:On June 12 2013 20:04 Sword of Omens wrote:On June 12 2013 19:42 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The recent gay pride parade suffered a heavy and violent blow after people threw eggs and water at gay rights movement activists and participants of the parade. Got this from my feed this morning! This is beyond unbelievable! Wow... What kind of sick freak throws eggs at peaceful protesters, even aiming for their head at such a distance? They are just asking for equal rights, they are not trying to somehow magically convert people into gayness(?). Meanwhile, fanatic douschebags like the guy in this photo, are attacking them for no other reason than seeing the protesters as inferior creatures. Can't America "liberate" Russia? They have gas and oil you know I don't think America actually is capable of doing that. But that aside, most gay people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how gay they are and how it's good to be gay which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm gay and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the picture, don't even know why. But that aside, most straight people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how straight they are and how it's good to be straight which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm straight and I say that I'm not. Btw I laughed at the fact that you laughed at innocent, peaceful people being attacked, don't even know why. Most straight people don't go about parading how straight they are etc. Atleast I have NEVER heard anyone say that. You must be from reddit. Nor do most gay people. The status quo is straight people 'parading' how straight they are. Look at practically all advertisements, tv shows, music, whatever you like. Sex does sell, and seeing as most people are straight, that's just a fact, making ads or w/e that appeal to straight people is more profitable than making ads that appeal to gay people. It is all about the money in advertisements, tv shows and music nowadays. I'm not disputing that, but your assertion is that gay people shove it in people's faces (by and large, we do not) whereas the reality is the other way round (which is fine, I'm not complaining about it). Groups of people talk about sex all the time, and almost always it will reference the opposite sex, because that's the majority. Gays don't complain about it because there's nothing to complain about, but it's rather irksome when straight people like you complain about having 'gay' shoved down your throat, when the converse is everyday reality for gay people. Please do note that I'm simply speaking from my own experiences, if most gay people aren't doing that in the UK, it's IMO a good thing, I don't have anything against being gay, but to some (not all) it does quite seem like a religion. Which is still all fine, but it occasionally gets out of hand, in Finland we do have anti-straight gay bars.
Any minority group will have its 'activists' (which are to an extent necessary). Some are fairly militant.
But it is a product of homosexuals living in a heterosexual-dominated world. Complaining about it when society is all about heterosexuality, catering to you, seems silly to me.
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