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On June 12 2013 20:04 Sword of Omens wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 19:42 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The recent gay pride parade suffered a heavy and violent blow after people threw eggs and water at gay rights movement activists and participants of the parade. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/B5wkYTm.jpg) Got this from my feed this morning! This is beyond unbelievable!
Wow... What kind of sick freak throws eggs at peaceful protesters, even aiming for their head at such a distance?
They are just asking for equal rights, they are not trying to somehow magically convert people into gayness(?).
Meanwhile, fanatic douschebags like the guy in this photo, are attacking them for no other reason than seeing the protesters as inferior creatures.
Can't America "liberate" Russia? They have gas and oil you know 
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Really retarded. By the way, what is this law of "offending religious feelings of the faithful" that the article mentions? I have such shitty internet right now so it would probably take 5 minutes to google it, haha.
What I got, doesn't mention the anti gay law but I assume they are linked together. From what I can gather russian punk band makes fun of church, church retaliates by banning gays lol wtf.
+ Show Spoiler +MOSCOW: Russia has passed a bill imposing jail terms of up to three years on those who offend religious believers after an anti-Vladimir Putin stunt by punk band Pussy Riot in a church polarised the predominantly Orthodox country last year. According to the bill passed in a 308 to two final vote, "public actions expressing clear disrespect for society and committed with the goal of offending religious feelings of the faithful" would be punishable with jail terms of up to one year in prison and fines of up to 300,000 rubles ($A9750). The same actions committed in churches and other places of worship would be punishable by up to three years in prison and a fine of up to 500,000 rubles. Among other forms of punishment to be meted out for the transgressions are compulsory community service and forced labour. Advertisement The controversial bill was proposed after several members of rock band Pussy Riot belted out a "punk prayer" against Mr Putin in an Orthodox cathedral last year. Two Pussy Riot members, Nadezhda Tolokonnikova and Maria Alyokhina, are serving two years in prison after being convicted last August on charges of hooliganism motivated by religious hatred. Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/new-law-brings-jail-terms-for-offending-religious-feelings-20130612-2o35c.html#ixzz2W01WI4HB
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On June 12 2013 20:12 cloneThorN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:04 Sword of Omens wrote:On June 12 2013 19:42 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The recent gay pride parade suffered a heavy and violent blow after people threw eggs and water at gay rights movement activists and participants of the parade. Got this from my feed this morning! This is beyond unbelievable! Wow... What kind of sick freak throws eggs at peaceful protesters, even aiming for their head at such a distance? They are just asking for equal rights, they are not trying to somehow magically convert people into gayness(?). Meanwhile, fanatic douschebags like the guy in this photo, are attacking them for no other reason than seeing the protesters as inferior creatures. Can't America "liberate" Russia? They have gas and oil you know
They also have 12000 nuclear missiles, they might be useful.
On the topic its pretty disgusting but nearly everything russia does is disgusting so no change there.
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On June 12 2013 20:14 Zaros wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:12 cloneThorN wrote:On June 12 2013 20:04 Sword of Omens wrote:On June 12 2013 19:42 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The recent gay pride parade suffered a heavy and violent blow after people threw eggs and water at gay rights movement activists and participants of the parade. Got this from my feed this morning! This is beyond unbelievable! Wow... What kind of sick freak throws eggs at peaceful protesters, even aiming for their head at such a distance? They are just asking for equal rights, they are not trying to somehow magically convert people into gayness(?). Meanwhile, fanatic douschebags like the guy in this photo, are attacking them for no other reason than seeing the protesters as inferior creatures. Can't America "liberate" Russia? They have gas and oil you know They also have 12000 nuclear missiles, they might be useful. On the topic its pretty disgusting but nearly everything russia does is disgusting so no change there.
If Russia endorses and protects terrorists that attack the US I would expect a retaliation. But sadly all they are doing is oppressing minorities because they are apparently very theological, which while stupid and backward is not a major concern for the US.
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Maybe we can use this to get the far right to ease up on non-straights. in the USA. They won't want to be acting like them damn commies!
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well, russia is kind of a broken state what is slowly losing all of its geopolitical power, maybe the rulers are traumatized and take it out on their "subjects".
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Well I am quite tired of this gay rights thing, so although I think that this law is too much, I welcome an attempt to stop with this mess already. I don't have anything against gays, but if you are willing to be gay you don't have to tell the whole world how happy and cute you are and stop me getting to my favorite coffee shop with your parade.
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On June 12 2013 20:09 edlover420 wrote:
This is no surprise really, here in eastern Europe we've been raised under the impression that the homosexuality is a mental disorder and the word which everyone uses to describes the homosexuals with would be translated as ''the sickos''. Being raised in such an environment I of course support the law and I don't see how homosexuality could be accepted as normal or natural under any circumstances.
This is like the exact same logic Hitler used against the jews. He was born in a place where the majority blamed the jews as traitors and culprits of germans loss in ww1.
It's also the exact same logic the KKK used against black people "hey, we have been abusing these n!ggers for generations, why stop now?"
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On June 12 2013 20:19 LaNague wrote:
well, russia is kind of a broken state what is slowly losing all of its geopolitical power, maybe the rulers are traumatized and take it out on their "subjects".
On the contrary, the new oligarchic elite are forming an alliance with the Orthodox church to consolidate their control over the state. Out with the old Tsars, in with the new Tsars, Russia never changes.
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On June 12 2013 20:19 Art.FeeL wrote:
Well I am quite tired of this gay rights thing, so although I think that this law is too much, I welcome an attempt to stop with this mess already. I don't have anything against gays, but if you are willing to be gay you don't have to tell the whole world how happy and cute you are and stop me getting to my favorite coffee shop with your parade.
So you don't have anything against gays as long as they hide at home?
Seems like you have lots against them really.
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On June 12 2013 20:20 cloneThorN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:09 edlover420 wrote:
This is no surprise really, here in eastern Europe we've been raised under the impression that the homosexuality is a mental disorder and the word which everyone uses to describes the homosexuals with would be translated as ''the sickos''. Being raised in such an environment I of course support the law and I don't see how homosexuality could be accepted as normal or natural under any circumstances. This is like the exact same logic Hitler used against the jews. He was born in a place where the majority blamed the jews as traitors and culprits of germans loss in ww1. It's also the exact same logic the KKK used against black people "hey, we have been abusing these n!ggers for generations, why stop now?"
If you want to start comparing with Hitler... you don't have to rope Jews into this. Gays were persecuted in the Third Reich and died in concentrations camps during the Third Reich.
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On June 12 2013 20:09 edlover420 wrote:
This is no surprise really, here in eastern Europe we've been raised under the impression that the homosexuality is a mental disorder and the word which everyone uses to describes the homosexuals with would be translated as ''the sickos''. Being raised in such an environment I of course support the law and I don't see how homosexuality could be accepted as normal or natural under any circumstances.
Because no matter what sexual orientation you have we are still the same people and it doesn't make you a sicko. Homosexuality not natural you say? About 80% of all spieces in nature is homosexual. I would say it's one of the most natural things there is. Homosexuality is not what's working against nature, only the socially created prejudices against homosexuals that was created by men is the real atrocity against nature. It's time for people in your county as well to wake up and start working against those distorted views of homosexuality.
Also this law is a bit frightning yes.
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I was under the impression that neutrality and objectivity is important. But reading the op, it is obvious which side of the issue it already stands, thereby affecting the discussion. What about those who favor this law? OPs like this discourage a healthy discussion because they already manipulate the discussion to go on a specific way.
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On June 12 2013 20:09 edlover420 wrote:
This is no surprise really, here in eastern Europe we've been raised under the impression that the homosexuality is a mental disorder and the word which everyone uses to describes the homosexuals with would be translated as ''the sickos''. Being raised in such an environment I of course support the law and I don't see how homosexuality could be accepted as normal or natural under any circumstances.
Where exactly in Eastern Europe are you? Things aren't nearly as extreme over here. o0
On June 12 2013 20:26 Christ the Redeemer wrote:
I was under the impression that neutrality and objectivity is important. But reading the op, it is obvious which side of the issue it already stands, thereby affecting the discussion. What about those who favor this law? OPs like this discourage a healthy discussion because they already manipulate the discussion to go on a specific way.
You think denying people certain rights and marginalizing them based on their sexual orientation is alright and we should condone such behaviour?
Nevermind, your name is Christ the Redeemer... -_-
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On June 12 2013 20:19 Art.FeeL wrote:
Well I am quite tired of this gay rights thing, so although I think that this law is too much, I welcome an attempt to stop with this mess already. I don't have anything against gays, but if you are willing to be gay you don't have to tell the whole world how happy and cute you are and stop me getting to my favorite coffee shop with your parade.
Honestly, i think the reason you are tired of it, is because you never tried to even understand the basic concepts of it.
1. The gay right movement is not about informing you about them being gay,
2. It's about them trying to achive the same rights as straight people like you and me.
3. Try replacing "gays" with "black people"
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On June 12 2013 20:19 Art.FeeL wrote:
Well I am quite tired of this gay rights thing, so although I think that this law is too much, I welcome an attempt to stop with this mess already. I don't have anything against gays, but if you are willing to be gay you don't have to tell the whole world how happy and cute you are and stop me getting to my favorite coffee shop with your parade.
I for one admire your bravery in posting this!
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Doesn't this put Russia even further behind the rest of the world? What is so shocking to me is that none of the members of parliament stood up against this law being passed. An unanimous vote of 436 is astounding. Do Russians hate homosexuality so much because of their orthodox beliefs? I wonder.
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This is why you don't want big government that can just take rights away on a whim. You need very small, decentralized government that isn't involved in marriage, or other crap and jailing people for victimless crimes.
But again, until everyone in the world figures out that big government is terrible and its not there to help you, but to hurt you and destroy your rights, we are not going to have liberty, we are not going to have prosperity, we are not going to progress to the next human level.
So the sooner that people all over the world realize that big government is bad, that free markets, free individuals, human interaction, liberty works the faster we can have great things.
But as long as people believe in this absurd notion that if you are in so called government you can rule over people and force them to do stuff or not to stuff and that you can control their lives, we are not going to have liberty and prosperity.
The problem is education, just like when 100 years ago they didn't understand that being black is having pigment basically, now its the not knowing that being gay is to a certain degree natural and these are people just like us with families, friends, etc...
Now some of the homosexual increase is due to certain type of food additives that are being put in certain foods and some of the hygiene products, and while the numbers may be artificially increased, its still a normal thing and just means they have a bit different hormones.
But again, until everyone realizes that we have inherited, inalienable human rights just by the fact we are human and no one can take those rights, and sure as hell government doesn't give us rights, we have them, we are born with rights and government should stay as far away as possible from infringing upon people's rights.
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On June 12 2013 20:26 Christ the Redeemer wrote:
I was under the impression that neutrality and objectivity is important. But reading the op, it is obvious which side of the issue it already stands, thereby affecting the discussion. What about those who favor this law? OPs like this discourage a healthy discussion because they already manipulate the discussion to go on a specific way.
But who would argue that being anti-gay is a good thing?
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On June 12 2013 20:12 cloneThorN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 20:04 Sword of Omens wrote:On June 12 2013 19:42 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The recent gay pride parade suffered a heavy and violent blow after people threw eggs and water at gay rights movement activists and participants of the parade. Got this from my feed this morning! This is beyond unbelievable! Wow... What kind of sick freak throws eggs at peaceful protesters, even aiming for their head at such a distance? They are just asking for equal rights, they are not trying to somehow magically convert people into gayness(?). Meanwhile, fanatic douschebags like the guy in this photo, are attacking them for no other reason than seeing the protesters as inferior creatures. Can't America "liberate" Russia? They have gas and oil you know
I don't think America actually is capable of doing that.
But that aside, most gay people I have met have been friendly, and I have nothing against them, but they often go about parading how gay they are and how it's good to be gay which irritates me to death, they also seem to be offended when they ask me if I'm gay and I say that I'm not.
Btw I laughed at the picture, don't even know why.
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