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On June 12 2013 22:51 Xahhk wrote:
Gay discrimination there, massive problems in the US. Do you Mericans really have any right to laugh at them for being so backward?
Whatever's goin' on in the US, the brutal treatment of minorities in Russia (and not only the gay community) make it look like a detail in the big scheme of things.
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On June 12 2013 22:50 ZeRoX-45 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:40 theking1 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:32 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:21 theking1 wrote:I am suprised that so many homophobic posters exist in this forum.Sadly humanity until a great genocide happens does not learn its lesson.The Jews were persecuted for hundreds of years and only after Hitler commited the Hollocaust was antisemitism finally condemned.Now the gays are going to a simmilar process.until many of them are butchered no one will take any actions against inhumane violence against a group of human beings who have done nothing to no one and wish to live their life the way they decide  . I am here via phone so sry for not quoting you previous post. Aside from your terrible try to act as intelectual by writing my psychological profile, you completely misunderstood my point. I dont hate someone just for being gay, jew, black or whatever, I just dont want someone murdered or beatan up or damaged whole city just so they can walk 2 kms. If society doeeent approve it, deal with it, or youre saying its easier to change 7 million peoples then few hundreds of gays? Hey serbian homophobe thank you for replying! The discussion isnt about damage done to public space.the discussion is about this comment of yours: "I agree. I havent said that I wouldnt give them (some)rights. They are people after all. I would just like to stop parading and spreading homosexualism that much. But main thing is that here, parades arent really made for gays to get rights but to "inject finger in the eye" of straight people. Plus they get much of publicity as a unrelevant minority." Now answer my previous question: Would you say the same if a swiss politician decided to ban Serbian restaurants and Serbian dinner manifestations simply because he feels that serbians are "inject finger in the eye" of the western european populace and are an unrelevant minority?Just asking. Thank you in advance for your answer If society isn't ready to accept homosexualism why would you want to march on parades knowing that there would be some kind of trouble? If small group of Serbs in Switzerland would be unwanted just by their existing(from any reason), and country couldn't protect them, then I would request for ban personally for restaurant. It's not fair to Serbs but it is for other 99% of people living. You can't have perfect world where everyone is happy and satisfied. Thanks for manners Romanian realist!
You really don't understand. The burden of change is on society, not on homosexuals to change or hide. Society is in the wrong, society must make itself right. In the meantime, because society has forced so many homosexuals to hide for so long, homosexuals have to have pride parades to show other gay people that they don't have to hide and that they aren't alone. It's a way to identify themselves.
You're telling gay people to assimilate and hide instead of telling the shithead bigots to quit being bigots. You're part of the problem, you're not contributing to the solution.
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On June 12 2013 22:18 ZeRoX-45 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:06 cloneThorN wrote:On June 12 2013 21:59 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 21:55 cloneThorN wrote:On June 12 2013 21:43 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
I am supportive about Russia and Ukraine about anti-homo laws. I wish my goverment could bring in the same legislative about this topic.
Main thing to question here is kind of the society you live in. In my country, Russia or some others, beng gay is unacceptable by large majority of people. So I do not understand the need if having marriages or parades if you know that people will brake half of the city apart that day or burn something if they accept gay marriages in some law. It's almost fault of gays as much as fault of people who do not want them on the streets.
On the other side, I know I can't change someones sexual behaviours but also I dont need to look at them few days per year. I dont also think orthodox chiristianity has something to do with this subject but here church(also Orthodox) is strongly opposing "pride" marches and that is one if the reasons here pride never sucedeed and never will. I would let them do whatever they want behind their walls but do not make us and our children watch that attrocious parade in the middle of capital. I agree on the pride thing. However, you said youself that you would "let them do whatever they want behind their walls", so why not just give them the same rights straights have? For instance, it will not affect straights at all, if gays are allowed to be married.(just an example). So why not just get it over with? The gay pride parades is a result of you oppressing them, so it's 100% your fault. You could easely make them stop the parades if you just give them the rights they want. I agree. I havent said that I wouldnt give them (some)rights. They are people after all. I would just like to stop parading and spreading homosexualism that much. But main thing is that here, parades arent really made for gays to get rights but to "inject finger in the eye" of straight people. Plus they get much of publicity as a unrelevant minority. I see two things wrong in your post, so i made them bold. 1st one is that you think homosexuality is srpead. Just like you can't convert gays to straights, you can't convert straighs to gays. 2nd one is your idea that the gay parade is to annoy straight people. The gay prides sole function is to make oppressed gays feel like they are welcome somewhere in society. Well, in my society they are not welcome. Thats why I think that parade isnt solely because of gay rights. Last gay parade, city was damaged like it was war and few millions of Euro's had to be payed ti repair it. And few times pride was stopped like that, so tell me how gays had profit from that? Let alone conversions, if you know current state of opinion about gays in some society, "spreading homo content" would maybe create more gays and more violence/damage to country. Call it stone age, but thats just the way it is here and probably in Russia. I think its much different in other European countries. Probably parades are peaceful and something normal. But if the pride's pourpose is to "get rights" why are there prides in countries which already claimed LGBT rights?
I'm sorry, but reading this post made my head hurt.
- As explained in my previous post, the purpose of pride parade, is to comfort oppressed homosexuals. The more you oppress them, the stronger need for a parade.
- A few million euros worth of damagde was caused. Ok, tell me, who started this riot? Personally i think it's the same ind of scum, as the people throwing eggs like the ones in the bbc article.
- Again, Homosexuality is not like a virus, it's not spread.
- The reason we have pride parades in the west, is because there are still alot of people(nearly 100% of them are religious), that actively persecuted homosexuals. For example, here in Denmark, 20 year old man, was brutally murdered for no other reason than being gay. A fellow student knew he was gay, and stabbed him to death in full public.
They also lack alot of rights. Only last year did some churches begin to accept homo marrigdes.
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On June 12 2013 22:50 ZeRoX-45 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:40 theking1 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:32 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:21 theking1 wrote:I am suprised that so many homophobic posters exist in this forum.Sadly humanity until a great genocide happens does not learn its lesson.The Jews were persecuted for hundreds of years and only after Hitler commited the Hollocaust was antisemitism finally condemned.Now the gays are going to a simmilar process.until many of them are butchered no one will take any actions against inhumane violence against a group of human beings who have done nothing to no one and wish to live their life the way they decide . I am here via phone so sry for not quoting you previous post. Aside from your terrible try to act as intelectual by writing my psychological profile, you completely misunderstood my point. I dont hate someone just for being gay, jew, black or whatever, I just dont want someone murdered or beatan up or damaged whole city just so they can walk 2 kms. If society doeeent approve it, deal with it, or youre saying its easier to change 7 million peoples then few hundreds of gays? Hey serbian homophobe thank you for replying! The discussion isnt about damage done to public space.the discussion is about this comment of yours: "I agree. I havent said that I wouldnt give them (some)rights. They are people after all. I would just like to stop parading and spreading homosexualism that much. But main thing is that here, parades arent really made for gays to get rights but to "inject finger in the eye" of straight people. Plus they get much of publicity as a unrelevant minority." Now answer my previous question: Would you say the same if a swiss politician decided to ban Serbian restaurants and Serbian dinner manifestations simply because he feels that serbians are "inject finger in the eye" of the western european populace and are an unrelevant minority?Just asking. Thank you in advance for your answer If society isn't ready to accept homosexualism why would you want to march on parades knowing that there would be some kind of trouble? If small group of Serbs in Switzerland would be unwanted just by their existing(from any reason), and country couldn't protect them, then I would request for ban personally for restaurant. It's not fair to Serbs but it is for other 99% of people living. You can't have perfect world where everyone is happy and satisfied. Thanks for manners Romanian realist!
I am quite shocked on how easily you would agree to discrimination against your peers based on your perceived idea of democracy.Democracy and human rights mean rule of the majority and PROTECTION OF MINORITIES.If 99% of swiss do not want serbians in their country they can't do anythng about it because Switzwrland is a democracy signatary of human rights and after centuries of world wars and genocides western nations how you call them have realised that discriminationa against a minority if not humane and hence was made illlegal.Being tolerant goes a long way if you want other people being tolerant to you.
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On June 12 2013 22:50 ZeRoX-45 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:40 theking1 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:32 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:21 theking1 wrote:I am suprised that so many homophobic posters exist in this forum.Sadly humanity until a great genocide happens does not learn its lesson.The Jews were persecuted for hundreds of years and only after Hitler commited the Hollocaust was antisemitism finally condemned.Now the gays are going to a simmilar process.until many of them are butchered no one will take any actions against inhumane violence against a group of human beings who have done nothing to no one and wish to live their life the way they decide . I am here via phone so sry for not quoting you previous post. Aside from your terrible try to act as intelectual by writing my psychological profile, you completely misunderstood my point. I dont hate someone just for being gay, jew, black or whatever, I just dont want someone murdered or beatan up or damaged whole city just so they can walk 2 kms. If society doeeent approve it, deal with it, or youre saying its easier to change 7 million peoples then few hundreds of gays? Hey serbian homophobe thank you for replying! The discussion isnt about damage done to public space.the discussion is about this comment of yours: "I agree. I havent said that I wouldnt give them (some)rights. They are people after all. I would just like to stop parading and spreading homosexualism that much. But main thing is that here, parades arent really made for gays to get rights but to "inject finger in the eye" of straight people. Plus they get much of publicity as a unrelevant minority." Now answer my previous question: Would you say the same if a swiss politician decided to ban Serbian restaurants and Serbian dinner manifestations simply because he feels that serbians are "inject finger in the eye" of the western european populace and are an unrelevant minority?Just asking. Thank you in advance for your answer If society isn't ready to accept homosexualism why would you want to march on parades knowing that there would be some kind of trouble?
Because it is by talking about it that it will someday make society be read to accept it. If you don't, things will never change.
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On June 12 2013 22:53 Reason wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:51 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 12 2013 22:37 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:29 DertoQq wrote:On June 12 2013 22:20 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:14 DertoQq wrote:On June 12 2013 22:03 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 21:50 Myles wrote:On June 12 2013 21:48 marvellosity wrote:
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Shades of "women are partly to blame when they get raped". icky. Yea, and how dare a black person try to sit next to a white. They brought the discrimination on themselves and the violence against them was almost their fault as much as the attackers. If you would go to the same restaurant every day knowing that no one cant protect you from being beaten by waiter, could you say that its notnyour fault? Police cant protect few thousands of people if 100 times more people are attacking them. Its just non sence. If I go to a restaurant and get beat up by the waiter for no reasons, he would be fired and probably arrested. The boss would give me free meal for life and then I would happily go back to this restaurant again ! yep, that's how it feels living in a civilized country. I pointed out example where anyone cant protect you. In some countries, police cant protect gqys since there is multiple times more people against gays then there is police. One more reason to actually fight for your rights (and by "you" I mean them/us fighting people like you you). If you can't go outside because you are afraid of getting beaten up, then there is something seriously wrong with your country. (and no, locking those people inside isn't a solution). If everyone were like you, black people would still be slaves in America and we would still have a king in France. I dont want to fight alone for gay people rights, I just do not care about them enough. If they can't accept socety the way it is, they could move in France and live normal life. I am sorry for them but there's nothing I can do. It's not their responsibility to change themselves for society or move away because they're not accepted. That line of thought is straight from the 13th century. It's society's job to accept people the way they are as long as they do no harm to others. And I don't know about anyone else but I don't feel especially harmed when I meet a homosexual person. Well, try to come here or Ukraine, Russia, Georgia on pride. Then you will understand what I am talking about. It's not 13th century it's different opinion. Just if westerners think gay is ok, it doesen't mean it actually is acceptable to everyone. Not everyone are same. Yeah, some people are racist or homophobic, what's your point?
If 90% of people are homophobic, country can't protect pride. Neither gay people, ergo, parade would be more damaging than useful. That's my point. But it differs from west (and 90% of posters aren't from few named countries) and that's why I am fighting the wind here.
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On June 12 2013 22:53 ZeRoX-45 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:44 hzflank wrote:On June 12 2013 22:37 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:29 DertoQq wrote:On June 12 2013 22:20 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:14 DertoQq wrote:On June 12 2013 22:03 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 21:50 Myles wrote:On June 12 2013 21:48 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2013 21:43 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
I am supportive about Russia and Ukraine about anti-homo laws. I wish my goverment could bring in the same legislative about this topic.
Main thing to question here is kind of the society you live in. In my country, Russia or some others, beng gay is unacceptable by large majority of people. So I do not understand the need if having marriages or parades if you know that people will brake half of the city apart that day or burn something if they accept gay marriages in some law. It's almost fault of gays as much as fault of people who do not want them on the streets.
On the other side, I know I can't change someones sexual behaviours but also I dont need to look at them few days per year. I dont also think orthodox chiristianity has something to do with this subject but here church(also Orthodox) is strongly opposing "pride" marches and that is one if the reasons here pride never sucedeed and never will. I would let them do whatever they want behind their walls but do not make us and our children watch that attrocious parade in the middle of capital. Shades of "women are partly to blame when they get raped". icky. Yea, and how dare a black person try to sit next to a white. They brought the discrimination on themselves and the violence against them was almost their fault as much as the attackers. If you would go to the same restaurant every day knowing that no one cant protect you from being beaten by waiter, could you say that its notnyour fault? Police cant protect few thousands of people if 100 times more people are attacking them. Its just non sence. If I go to a restaurant and get beat up by the waiter for no reasons, he would be fired and probably arrested. The boss would give me free meal for life and then I would happily go back to this restaurant again ! yep, that's how it feels living in a civilized country. I pointed out example where anyone cant protect you. In some countries, police cant protect gqys since there is multiple times more people against gays then there is police. One more reason to actually fight for your rights (and by "you" I mean them/us fighting people like you you). If you can't go outside because you are afraid of getting beaten up, then there is something seriously wrong with your country. (and no, locking those people inside isn't a solution). If everyone were like you, black people would still be slaves in America and we would still have a king in France. I dont want to fight alone for gay people rights, I just do not care about them enough. If they can't accept socety the way it is, they could move in France and live normal life. I am sorry for them but there's nothing I can do. There is a very big thing that you can do. If you have children then you can raise them to be tolerant. That's all people have to do. The vast majority of intolerance is instilled in us when we are children. I can do that but I can't protect or fight for gay rights.
You do not have to protect anyone the police has to.But f the police is full of people like you no wonder the gays are being brutalized/
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On June 12 2013 22:48 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:48 DonKey_ wrote:On June 12 2013 22:39 shekelberg wrote:On June 12 2013 22:36 HaRuHi wrote:On June 12 2013 22:28 shekelberg wrote:On June 12 2013 22:27 guN-viCe wrote:Did you guys know homosexuality is common in some animals?Imagine having sex with a man, are you repulsed? That's how a gay man feels when he thinks about women. Homosexuality exists, deal with it. It's not going away, ever. I feel like Russia and quite a few other countries are like the USA 50-100 years ago. Religion combined with ignorance and dogma strikes again Rape is also natural in animals, it doesn't mean it's good I am shocked and hurt. You do get the differnce between rape and the consensual act of love? Also: Come on Murrica. Free the shit out of them. Redeem yourself for all the wars you did for oil, do one for freedom. A 14 year old and a 40 year old both consent "in the name of love" do you support that too? When did pedophilia come into this and how does it relate on a 1:1 scale to homosexuality? Either you are just nitpicking his statement which has no relation to the thread or you are comparing homosexuality to pedophilia. Which if you do not know the difference between the two you can find the definitions quite easily or I can find them for you, as they are very different. He compared rape and homosexuality a few posts ago. Don't feed him, he gets uglier...
I just wanted to make it more obvious.
It's sad how every time a thread on homosexuality is created the bigots are always culled, but their population never decreases.
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On June 12 2013 22:52 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:51 Xahhk wrote:
Gay discrimination there, massive problems in the US. Do you Mericans really have any right to laugh at them for being so backward? Yes, the two aren't really comparable like that.
Gay rights built on the bodies of droned civilians and children. Given by a government who has been running PRISM, jailing legitimate whistleblowers etc. But no, it's alright to call Russia a step towards 'dictatorship', or some variant of 'Fuck Russia so backward!" There's no moral high ground really for Mericans. Just simply comment without bringing in nationalism, just the rights themselves which some people do, but a great many don't.
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Well done Russia. Way to be a backwater fking country
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On June 12 2013 22:39 shekelberg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:36 HaRuHi wrote:On June 12 2013 22:28 shekelberg wrote:On June 12 2013 22:27 guN-viCe wrote:Did you guys know homosexuality is common in some animals?Imagine having sex with a man, are you repulsed? That's how a gay man feels when he thinks about women. Homosexuality exists, deal with it. It's not going away, ever. I feel like Russia and quite a few other countries are like the USA 50-100 years ago. Religion combined with ignorance and dogma strikes again Rape is also natural in animals, it doesn't mean it's good I am shocked and hurt. You do get the differnce between rape and the consensual act of love? Also: Come on Murrica. Free the shit out of them. Redeem yourself for all the wars you did for oil, do one for freedom. A 14 year old and a 40 year old both consent "in the name of love" do you support that too?
The difference between homosexuality and rape is that homosexuality is a consensual act with no victim, whereas rape is non-consensual and is doing physical harm onto another.
The reason a 14 year old and a 40 year old together is frowned upon and illegal is because 14 year old's do not have a fully developed brain and lack the ability to make well-informed decisions. Any 40 year old who is OK with that is usually sick in the head.
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On June 12 2013 22:53 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:51 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 12 2013 22:37 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:29 DertoQq wrote:On June 12 2013 22:20 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:14 DertoQq wrote:On June 12 2013 22:03 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 21:50 Myles wrote:On June 12 2013 21:48 marvellosity wrote:
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Shades of "women are partly to blame when they get raped". icky. Yea, and how dare a black person try to sit next to a white. They brought the discrimination on themselves and the violence against them was almost their fault as much as the attackers. If you would go to the same restaurant every day knowing that no one cant protect you from being beaten by waiter, could you say that its notnyour fault? Police cant protect few thousands of people if 100 times more people are attacking them. Its just non sence. If I go to a restaurant and get beat up by the waiter for no reasons, he would be fired and probably arrested. The boss would give me free meal for life and then I would happily go back to this restaurant again ! yep, that's how it feels living in a civilized country. I pointed out example where anyone cant protect you. In some countries, police cant protect gqys since there is multiple times more people against gays then there is police. One more reason to actually fight for your rights (and by "you" I mean them/us fighting people like you you). If you can't go outside because you are afraid of getting beaten up, then there is something seriously wrong with your country. (and no, locking those people inside isn't a solution). If everyone were like you, black people would still be slaves in America and we would still have a king in France. I dont want to fight alone for gay people rights, I just do not care about them enough. If they can't accept socety the way it is, they could move in France and live normal life. I am sorry for them but there's nothing I can do. It's not their responsibility to change themselves for society or move away because they're not accepted. That line of thought is straight from the 13th century. It's society's job to accept people the way they are as long as they do no harm to others. And I don't know about anyone else but I don't feel especially harmed when I meet a homosexual person. Well, try to come here or Ukraine, Russia, Georgia on pride. Then you will understand what I am talking about. It's not 13th century it's different opinion. Just if westerners think gay is ok, it doesen't mean it actually is acceptable to everyone. Not everyone are same. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of education and understanding what homosexuality is. Rational people know all too well that laws of this kind are completely disgraceful to human society (this also includes rational, educated people from Russia, if you bothered to read this very thread you're posting in).
Yes they know but they had not stopped them. So ask yourself why...Law isnt almighty, it can be useful only if people act accordingly to it.
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On June 12 2013 22:45 PerryHooter wrote:
Sounds like another step towards full out dictatorship. Pretty scary.
Considering the wealthiest Russians are targeted by their own state? It's a scary place to live in. Oligarch Boris Berezovsky should not have died or how about the richest man in Russia, Mr. Mikhail Khodorkovsky who they had killed in prison? He knew he was a dead man once the Kremlin came after him. The Russian government my friend is not to be trusted.
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On June 12 2013 22:56 ZeRoX-45 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:53 Reason wrote:On June 12 2013 22:51 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 12 2013 22:37 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:29 DertoQq wrote:On June 12 2013 22:20 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:14 DertoQq wrote:On June 12 2013 22:03 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 21:50 Myles wrote:
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Yea, and how dare a black person try to sit next to a white. They brought the discrimination on themselves and the violence against them was almost their fault as much as the attackers. If you would go to the same restaurant every day knowing that no one cant protect you from being beaten by waiter, could you say that its notnyour fault? Police cant protect few thousands of people if 100 times more people are attacking them. Its just non sence. If I go to a restaurant and get beat up by the waiter for no reasons, he would be fired and probably arrested. The boss would give me free meal for life and then I would happily go back to this restaurant again ! yep, that's how it feels living in a civilized country. I pointed out example where anyone cant protect you. In some countries, police cant protect gqys since there is multiple times more people against gays then there is police. One more reason to actually fight for your rights (and by "you" I mean them/us fighting people like you you). If you can't go outside because you are afraid of getting beaten up, then there is something seriously wrong with your country. (and no, locking those people inside isn't a solution). If everyone were like you, black people would still be slaves in America and we would still have a king in France. I dont want to fight alone for gay people rights, I just do not care about them enough. If they can't accept socety the way it is, they could move in France and live normal life. I am sorry for them but there's nothing I can do. It's not their responsibility to change themselves for society or move away because they're not accepted. That line of thought is straight from the 13th century. It's society's job to accept people the way they are as long as they do no harm to others. And I don't know about anyone else but I don't feel especially harmed when I meet a homosexual person. Well, try to come here or Ukraine, Russia, Georgia on pride. Then you will understand what I am talking about. It's not 13th century it's different opinion. Just if westerners think gay is ok, it doesen't mean it actually is acceptable to everyone. Not everyone are same. Yeah, some people are racist or homophobic, what's your point? If 90% of people are homophobic, country can't protect pride. Neither gay people, ergo, parade would be more damaging than useful. That's my point. But it differs from west (and 90% of posters aren't from few named countries) and that's why I am fighting the wind here.
Don't act or speak out against racism if you live in a racist country.
Don't act or speak out against homophobia if you live in a homophobic country.
Is that your message? It's a poor one.
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On June 12 2013 22:58 zmsFlood wrote:
Well done Russia. Way to be a backwater fking country
Russia as a country aint to blame.The Orthodox Church pulls the strings in matters of homophobia.
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On June 12 2013 22:33 theking1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:28 shekelberg wrote:On June 12 2013 22:27 guN-viCe wrote:Did you guys know homosexuality is common in some animals?Imagine having sex with a man, are you repulsed? That's how a gay man feels when he thinks about women. Homosexuality exists, deal with it. It's not going away, ever. I feel like Russia and quite a few other countries are like the USA 50-100 years ago. Religion combined with ignorance and dogma strikes again Rape is also natural in animals, it doesn't mean it's good Do you have any evidence of rape in animals or are you just pulling facts up like the roman one
some animals do rape, an example would be this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottlenose_dolphin
Theres also a kind of scorpion(i think it's a scorpion, however i can't remember it's classefication) that wanders in desolated desserts, and only meet a female once or twice in it's entire life, so it's forced to rape the female in order to secure the survival of the species(it can't afford a rejection).
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On June 12 2013 22:54 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:50 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:40 theking1 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:32 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On June 12 2013 22:21 theking1 wrote:I am suprised that so many homophobic posters exist in this forum.Sadly humanity until a great genocide happens does not learn its lesson.The Jews were persecuted for hundreds of years and only after Hitler commited the Hollocaust was antisemitism finally condemned.Now the gays are going to a simmilar process.until many of them are butchered no one will take any actions against inhumane violence against a group of human beings who have done nothing to no one and wish to live their life the way they decide . I am here via phone so sry for not quoting you previous post. Aside from your terrible try to act as intelectual by writing my psychological profile, you completely misunderstood my point. I dont hate someone just for being gay, jew, black or whatever, I just dont want someone murdered or beatan up or damaged whole city just so they can walk 2 kms. If society doeeent approve it, deal with it, or youre saying its easier to change 7 million peoples then few hundreds of gays? Hey serbian homophobe thank you for replying! The discussion isnt about damage done to public space.the discussion is about this comment of yours: "I agree. I havent said that I wouldnt give them (some)rights. They are people after all. I would just like to stop parading and spreading homosexualism that much. But main thing is that here, parades arent really made for gays to get rights but to "inject finger in the eye" of straight people. Plus they get much of publicity as a unrelevant minority." Now answer my previous question: Would you say the same if a swiss politician decided to ban Serbian restaurants and Serbian dinner manifestations simply because he feels that serbians are "inject finger in the eye" of the western european populace and are an unrelevant minority?Just asking. Thank you in advance for your answer If society isn't ready to accept homosexualism why would you want to march on parades knowing that there would be some kind of trouble? If small group of Serbs in Switzerland would be unwanted just by their existing(from any reason), and country couldn't protect them, then I would request for ban personally for restaurant. It's not fair to Serbs but it is for other 99% of people living. You can't have perfect world where everyone is happy and satisfied. Thanks for manners Romanian realist! You really don't understand. The burden of change is on society, not on homosexuals to change or hide. Society is in the wrong, society must make itself right. In the meantime, because society has forced so many homosexuals to hide for so long, homosexuals have to have pride parades to show other gay people that they don't have to hide and that they aren't alone. It's a way to identify themselves. You're telling gay people to assimilate and hide instead of telling the shithead bigots to quit being bigots. You're part of the problem, you're not contributing to the solution.
I agree but I am saying that percentage of homophobic people isn't same in every country.
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On June 12 2013 22:59 guN-viCe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:39 shekelberg wrote:On June 12 2013 22:36 HaRuHi wrote:On June 12 2013 22:28 shekelberg wrote:On June 12 2013 22:27 guN-viCe wrote:Did you guys know homosexuality is common in some animals?Imagine having sex with a man, are you repulsed? That's how a gay man feels when he thinks about women. Homosexuality exists, deal with it. It's not going away, ever. I feel like Russia and quite a few other countries are like the USA 50-100 years ago. Religion combined with ignorance and dogma strikes again Rape is also natural in animals, it doesn't mean it's good I am shocked and hurt. You do get the differnce between rape and the consensual act of love? Also: Come on Murrica. Free the shit out of them. Redeem yourself for all the wars you did for oil, do one for freedom. A 14 year old and a 40 year old both consent "in the name of love" do you support that too? The difference between homosexuality and rape is that homosexuality is a consensual act with no victim, whereas rape is non-consensual and is doing physical harm onto another. The reason a 14 year old and a 40 year old together is frowned upon and illegal is because 14 year old's do not have a fully developed brain and lack the ability to make well-informed decisions. Any 40 year old who is OK with that is usually sick in the head.
The fact that you equate statutory rape (which in all honesty is kind of a gray area in that it depends on case-by-case basis) with legitimate rape as well as your last sentence makes this post quite ironic. Funny, yet also sad.
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On June 12 2013 22:48 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 22:48 DonKey_ wrote:On June 12 2013 22:39 shekelberg wrote:On June 12 2013 22:36 HaRuHi wrote:On June 12 2013 22:28 shekelberg wrote:On June 12 2013 22:27 guN-viCe wrote:Did you guys know homosexuality is common in some animals?Imagine having sex with a man, are you repulsed? That's how a gay man feels when he thinks about women. Homosexuality exists, deal with it. It's not going away, ever. I feel like Russia and quite a few other countries are like the USA 50-100 years ago. Religion combined with ignorance and dogma strikes again Rape is also natural in animals, it doesn't mean it's good I am shocked and hurt. You do get the differnce between rape and the consensual act of love? Also: Come on Murrica. Free the shit out of them. Redeem yourself for all the wars you did for oil, do one for freedom. A 14 year old and a 40 year old both consent "in the name of love" do you support that too? When did pedophilia come into this and how does it relate on a 1:1 scale to homosexuality? Either you are just nitpicking his statement which has no relation to the thread or you are comparing homosexuality to pedophilia. Which if you do not know the difference between the two you can find the definitions quite easily or I can find them for you, as they are very different. He compared rape and homosexuality a few posts ago. Don't feed him, he gets uglier...
Great, I hope you are happy. The poor thing starved before it had a chance to deliver pure internet gold.
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I bret that woman wants to scissor so hard that she gets dew every time she sees an attractive woman. but the peer pressure of surrounding mental midgets is too overwhelming to handle.
Russians arent born bad people, just more instinctly agressive than most others. Unfortunately the government turns that potential to control with hate. I have some extremely good hearted russian friends. I wonder how the people of russia responded to this.
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