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Hug-A-Hydralisk
Profile Joined February 2012
United States174 Posts
April 07 2013 03:05 GMT
#1



Either she's the most successful troll ever and I've wasted time making the video, or she's dead serious about the nonsense that comes out of her mouth. In a nutshell, she complains about classic hits like Donkey Kong, Mario Brothers, Zelda, and many more beloved titles.

Her point I believe is that it's wrong for games to have "Save the princess" missions/quests because it's sexist and it makes women look weak and frail. She even has the arrogance to make the bold claim that women are not physically weaker then men. So by her broken logic, all professional sports are also sexist and both women and men should be allowed to play together in the NFL.

She completely overlooks the fact that she mainly accuses 8-bit games that barely have the computer power to have a story line to begin with. And if that isn't bad enough, she has comments and ratings disabled for her video so viewers are powerless to correct her on her bias statements. She spent a lot of resources on making the video as flashy and high production quality as possible so maybe comments are disabled because her entire video is just an overrated disaster that would get flooded with hateful comments and 95% of the ratings would most likely be thumbs down.

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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
April 07 2013 03:10 GMT
#2
This thread is not going to end well.

User was warned for this post
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TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 03:17:29
April 07 2013 03:13 GMT
#3
comments are disabled on videos like these, the most obvious parallel being anita sarkeesian's videos, because people start frothing at the mouth whenever people make harmless, broad-focused and again obvious videos in the feminist mode of criticism about how uniformly patriarchial video games and their marketing are.

physical capabilities are another argument entirely, but I find it telling that you can't muster the barebones framework of an argument against the "save the princess" tropes you seem to be arguing (for?).

edit: you know what else is telling? using the word "feminist" in the thread title. I sometimes wonder if you're allowed to inhabit a grey area when it comes to this discussion; either you're a feminazi or a patriarchy supporter.
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
April 07 2013 03:14 GMT
#4
On April 07 2013 12:10 Jaaaaasper wrote:
This thread is not going to end well.


I agree but I think its interesting.
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
April 07 2013 03:15 GMT
#5
Destiny actually wrote a "blog" about this
http://www.destiny.gg/n/a-critique-of-damsel-in-distress-part-1-tropes-vs-women-in-video-games/
Might wanna read this if you already haven't.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
April 07 2013 03:16 GMT
#6
Imo "save the Princess" games ARE very sexist. But your OP is lacking so much that the thread won't stay up very long. Make a better OP with more content than just one Youtube Video you raged about.
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
April 07 2013 03:18 GMT
#7
On April 07 2013 12:15 Holdenintherye wrote:
Destiny actually wrote a "blog" about this
http://www.destiny.gg/n/a-critique-of-damsel-in-distress-part-1-tropes-vs-women-in-video-games/
Might wanna read this if you already haven't.


how about no
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
April 07 2013 03:19 GMT
#8
This is a youtube OP. BOO!
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Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
April 07 2013 03:22 GMT
#9
On April 07 2013 12:18 TheExile19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:15 Holdenintherye wrote:
Destiny actually wrote a "blog" about this
http://www.destiny.gg/n/a-critique-of-damsel-in-distress-part-1-tropes-vs-women-in-video-games/
Might wanna read this if you already haven't.


how about no

Of course. Why would anyone want to inform themselves of different opinions? That's crazy talk.
Nore
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand128 Posts
April 07 2013 03:22 GMT
#10
Isn't the woman the weakness of the man whom is trying to save her ? meaning the man is the one portrayed as the weaker sex ?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 07 2013 03:24 GMT
#11
pretty legit attack. would not want my daughter accepting this kind of stereotype
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TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
April 07 2013 03:24 GMT
#12
On April 07 2013 12:22 Nore wrote:
Isn't the woman the weakness of the man whom is trying to save her ? meaning the man is the one portrayed as the weaker sex ?


do you find the reduction of a woman - a person - to being "the weakness of a man" problematic?

I mean, wow.
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
April 07 2013 03:26 GMT
#13
On April 07 2013 12:18 TheExile19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:15 Holdenintherye wrote:
Destiny actually wrote a "blog" about this
http://www.destiny.gg/n/a-critique-of-damsel-in-distress-part-1-tropes-vs-women-in-video-games/
Might wanna read this if you already haven't.


how about no


that "blog" by destiny..... as he makes analogies like "attacking with baneling ling is like raping a woman. you see the lings are the arms that holds her down and the banelings explode right into her" (paraphrasing)

I do, however, feel like rescue the princess games are fine.. In the last 2000 years of history, woman have been made to seem more "gentle".. and perhaps they are somewhat physically more "fragile" than men.. however, destiny is not the person to bring up in this type of discussion... who cares about his opinion anyways? really?
since 98'
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 03:27:21
April 07 2013 03:26 GMT
#14
On April 07 2013 12:22 Holdenintherye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:18 TheExile19 wrote:
On April 07 2013 12:15 Holdenintherye wrote:
Destiny actually wrote a "blog" about this
http://www.destiny.gg/n/a-critique-of-damsel-in-distress-part-1-tropes-vs-women-in-video-games/
Might wanna read this if you already haven't.


how about no

Of course. Why would anyone want to inform themselves of different opinions? That's crazy talk.


different opinions from notable closet racist/sexist destiny, whose opinions on sarkeesian's last video I was subjected to as I watched him play LoL on the day it came out? please don't waste your time.

I have no problem with people submitting opinions, but I don't really feel like destiny's body of work on the subject is worthy of being cited.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
April 07 2013 03:26 GMT
#15
I've seen a few of her videos in the past, and they typically make me shake my head. However, I don't really buy the whole 'primitive hardware = 'save the princess' story line crap. There are many examples of fun, meaningful story lines in classic games.

The theme in video games is no different than formulaic movies. They keep producing them because they sell.

wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 07 2013 03:29 GMT
#16
On April 07 2013 12:18 TheExile19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:15 Holdenintherye wrote:
Destiny actually wrote a "blog" about this
http://www.destiny.gg/n/a-critique-of-damsel-in-distress-part-1-tropes-vs-women-in-video-games/
Might wanna read this if you already haven't.


how about no

destiny does write quite a few good points in regards to it.
liftlift > tsm
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 03:32:54
April 07 2013 03:30 GMT
#17
On April 07 2013 12:19 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
This is a youtube OP. BOO!

Quoted for truth D:<

Also this is not nearly worth a thread, and it's a terrible thread at that. Complain about this to your friends who are able to suffer you, not TL general.

Oh, and lol at games not having enough computational power to carry a storyline or whatever was randomly thrown in there. Like computing power has anything to do with a storyline. If you have moving pictures, text, and music, you're set. Go read a book.
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LainRivers
Profile Joined March 2012
United States36 Posts
April 07 2013 03:31 GMT
#18
The problem is people refuse to acknowledge biology or 'This is how humans fucking are by nature get over it'.

I'm all for better/'equal' rights.

I'm not all for losing common sense/biologically admitting what we are and how we (most likely) will always be.
kill619
Profile Joined December 2011
United States212 Posts
April 07 2013 03:32 GMT
#19
On April 07 2013 12:26 LarJarsE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 12:18 TheExile19 wrote:
On April 07 2013 12:15 Holdenintherye wrote:
Destiny actually wrote a "blog" about this
http://www.destiny.gg/n/a-critique-of-damsel-in-distress-part-1-tropes-vs-women-in-video-games/
Might wanna read this if you already haven't.


how about no


that "blog" by destiny..... as he makes analogies like "attacking with baneling ling is like raping a woman. you see the lings are the arms that holds her down and the banelings explode right into her" (paraphrasing)



Yea, except for the fact that the only time he specifies gender in that analogy was he said,"inserting your self into his body".




If your gonna hate destiny at least don't be bad at it
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
April 07 2013 03:32 GMT
#20
Feminist theory is pretty ridiculous itself, in general. I mean they just randomly make the proclamation that because a female is a passive character in one instance of a story, shes "being acted upon" and is therefore an object. OR! Alternative, crazy hypothesis--- shes a person whos passive [captured, etc]. Theres literally no reason to make the object claim, it just flies in from left field.
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