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I simply put this on TL to promote critical thinking and I wish for no rules to apply to this thread so we can have free flowing thought.
Update: Add me on twitter people....stop limiting yourself  https://twitter.com/Echozss
Limit Theory: The Essence of Existence and thinking without limits
My Assumptions
All Matter is Created Equal
Matter has 2 properties that of an individual and of a group, it has a instinct or sense of ego and adapts to both independently (Examples relate quantum mechanics and general relativity but don’t limit yourself to those apply this to everything around you)
Is time relevant?
Question Everything
There Are No Absolutes
Think Without Limits
Limit theory is everything and nothing at the same time. There are no limits yet while at the same time limits are inevitable. It’s impossible to escape limits but yet every second you break limits. It’s a continuous cycle of limits and then breaking those limits. This is my perception of the world and it’s currently limited to everything I perceive to be a limit or to my personal experiences. Everyone has their own perception of the world that’s what makes every single person in the world, every single piece of matter in our reality the most fascinating that has ever existed in our understanding of existence. I now pose a question, what are your limits?
I pose another question, this one actually a task, a tool for me to try to communicate how I perceive reality, a way for matter to interact with each other, but before the task another question.
Why did matter evolve?
I think because there is some type of instinct built on being an individual and fully and freely express your perception of the world without having any limits. I think most people are held back by limits, by avoiding new experiences, being satisfied with life in and of itself limits your individuality, but the only thing that matters is how the individual feels, that’s why limit theory applies to everything and everyone, every piece of matter is unique and from some source, we need to stop limiting people by being closed minded.
A Personal Example
For instance 6 days ago I thought there was a 99% chance there was no god. Looking back at that I find it completely irrational because I’m limiting myself to what our reality refers to as God. These types of beliefs were limiting my true ability to express my perception of the world. I now feel like holding thoughts to myself is itself an immoral act. By not being completely honest and true to ourselves we are limiting everything around us, and more importantly ourselves.
Remember that task I talked about before? Well here it is.
The task is to type your first instinctive thoughts……………………………………………………………………………RIGHT NOW ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..JUST TYPE……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………IF YOU ARE READING THIS ………………..AND………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. HAVENT ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….TYPED ANYTHING YET YOU ARE…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. LIMITING……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….. YOURSELF…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
I now pose another question, did you or do you limit yourself?
If you do this great, if you don’t that’s equally great it’s your choice if you want to limit yourself from a completely unique perspective that has never existed in our realm of existence or understanding, it’s your choice, that is what I see to be one of the most important aspects of our reality.
Freedom of the Individual
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But is not the ability to say "NO!" precisely the essence of consciousness? I think people should limit themselves more!
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On January 20 2013 09:00 sam!zdat wrote:
But is not the ability to say "NO!" precisely the essence of consciousness? I think people should limit themselves more!
Thats GREAT! Its all about WHAT YOU THINK! Its your reality make of it as you wish :D
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You promote thinking without limits, but you made assumptions, which in itself are limits, to go on the next line after in order to keep talking about it...
You were probably better off providing a good introductory reference than your own words/interpretation, but I guess that's a limit in your mind I guess.
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On January 20 2013 09:02 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:00 sam!zdat wrote:
But is not the ability to say "NO!" precisely the essence of consciousness? I think people should limit themselves more! Thats GREAT! Its all about WHAT YOU THINK! Its your reality make of it as you wish :D
No, no, precisely backwards. It's reality's you to make of you as it wishes.
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You really need to work on your communication skills, what you wrote there makes no sense whatsoever.
What exactly is your point? That one should not take things for granted without proof? That is pretty much the definition of critical thinking. Why are you randomly calling it "limit theory" Or do you mean that one should ignore facts and think that everything is possible even if there is nothing pointing towards the idea? And what does your random "All matter is created equal, all matter has an instinct and an ego" that is not based in any scientific reality have to do with any of that?
And why would i be limiting myself if i do not type when some guy tells me to type? Isn't the opposite true, where i limit myself when i just do what i am told instead of what i think makes sense?
It is completely unclear to me what your point is.
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On January 20 2013 09:02 BirdKiller wrote:
You promote thinking without limits, but you made assumptions to go on the next line after in order to keep talking about it...
You were probably better off providing a good introductory reference than your own words/interpretation, but I guess that's a limit in your mind I guess.
Exactly the point I was making....glad you caught. Words all just ways for matter to interact with each other we could also use thing such as music or sign languae, what makes humans and animals different?
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On January 20 2013 09:03 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:02 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:00 sam!zdat wrote:
But is not the ability to say "NO!" precisely the essence of consciousness? I think people should limit themselves more! Thats GREAT! Its all about WHAT YOU THINK! Its your reality make of it as you wish :D No, no, precisely backwards. It's reality's you to make of you as it wishes.
There are no absolutes.
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On January 20 2013 09:05 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:02 BirdKiller wrote:
You promote thinking without limits, but you made assumptions to go on the next line after in order to keep talking about it...
You were probably better off providing a good introductory reference than your own words/interpretation, but I guess that's a limit in your mind I guess. Exactly the point I was making....glad you caught. Words all just ways for matter to interact with each other we could also use thing such as music or sign languae, what makes humans and animals different?
Regardless what you say, your original post makes no sense and at best contradicts itself from what I pointed out. No meaningful discussion can come out of this.
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On January 20 2013 09:05 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:03 sam!zdat wrote:On January 20 2013 09:02 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:00 sam!zdat wrote:
But is not the ability to say "NO!" precisely the essence of consciousness? I think people should limit themselves more! Thats GREAT! Its all about WHAT YOU THINK! Its your reality make of it as you wish :D No, no, precisely backwards. It's reality's you to make of you as it wishes. There are no absolutes.
That's just, like, your opinion, man.
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I really liked Stephen Hawking's - Grand Design
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Is this serious or someone couldn't find "High thread"?
If it's serious, better written OP, some explanations, definitions would be nice.
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On January 20 2013 09:06 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:05 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:03 sam!zdat wrote:On January 20 2013 09:02 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:00 sam!zdat wrote:
But is not the ability to say "NO!" precisely the essence of consciousness? I think people should limit themselves more! Thats GREAT! Its all about WHAT YOU THINK! Its your reality make of it as you wish :D No, no, precisely backwards. It's reality's you to make of you as it wishes. There are no absolutes. That's just, like, your opinion, man. oh my god, did he just limit himself?
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On January 20 2013 09:04 Simberto wrote:
You really need to work on your communication skills, what you wrote there makes no sense whatsoever.
What exactly is your point? That one should not take things for granted without proof? That is pretty much the definition of critical thinking. Why are you randomly calling it "limit theory" Or do you mean that one should ignore facts and think that everything is possible even if there is nothing pointing towards the idea? And what does your random "All matter is created equal, all matter has an instinct and an ego" that is not based in any scientific reality have to do with any of that?
And why would i be limiting myself if i do not type when some guy tells me to type? Isn't the opposite true, where i limit myself when i just do what i am told instead of what i think makes sense?
It is completely unclear to me what your point is.
Thank you for asking so many questions. This is simply the rules I use to currently perceive reality. Be open minded...don't ask me what the point I'm trying to make, question if you can learn anything from it.
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Man this is something you would read on /x/. I don't really understand why this is necessary, because it just seems like more pseudo-philosophy and self-help content.
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On January 20 2013 09:11 ECHOZs wrote:
question if you can learn anything from it.
But what if he already took freshman phil seminar??
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On January 20 2013 09:11 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:04 Simberto wrote:
You really need to work on your communication skills, what you wrote there makes no sense whatsoever.
What exactly is your point? That one should not take things for granted without proof? That is pretty much the definition of critical thinking. Why are you randomly calling it "limit theory" Or do you mean that one should ignore facts and think that everything is possible even if there is nothing pointing towards the idea? And what does your random "All matter is created equal, all matter has an instinct and an ego" that is not based in any scientific reality have to do with any of that?
And why would i be limiting myself if i do not type when some guy tells me to type? Isn't the opposite true, where i limit myself when i just do what i am told instead of what i think makes sense?
It is completely unclear to me what your point is. Thank you for asking so many questions. This is simply the rules I use to currently perceive reality. Be open minded...don't ask me what the point I'm trying to make, question if you can learn anything from it.
I wouldn't call separating humans from animals (especially after your explanations in the OP) very open minded.
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This thread won't do well. Classic new age bs desperately in need of something extraordinary to make thyself feel special.
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On January 20 2013 09:13 ibraishome wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:11 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:04 Simberto wrote:
You really need to work on your communication skills, what you wrote there makes no sense whatsoever.
What exactly is your point? That one should not take things for granted without proof? That is pretty much the definition of critical thinking. Why are you randomly calling it "limit theory" Or do you mean that one should ignore facts and think that everything is possible even if there is nothing pointing towards the idea? And what does your random "All matter is created equal, all matter has an instinct and an ego" that is not based in any scientific reality have to do with any of that?
And why would i be limiting myself if i do not type when some guy tells me to type? Isn't the opposite true, where i limit myself when i just do what i am told instead of what i think makes sense?
It is completely unclear to me what your point is. Thank you for asking so many questions. This is simply the rules I use to currently perceive reality. Be open minded...don't ask me what the point I'm trying to make, question if you can learn anything from it. I wouldn't call separating humans from animals (especially after your explanations in the OP) very open minded.
srsly. Aren't you down with the "critical animal studies"?! It's the hot new thing!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_studies
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Seems to me like OP has started the road that leads to true all-encompassing nihilism. The start and the end of that road always sound the craziest
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On January 20 2013 09:05 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:03 sam!zdat wrote:On January 20 2013 09:02 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:00 sam!zdat wrote:
But is not the ability to say "NO!" precisely the essence of consciousness? I think people should limit themselves more! Thats GREAT! Its all about WHAT YOU THINK! Its your reality make of it as you wish :D No, no, precisely backwards. It's reality's you to make of you as it wishes. There are no absolutes.
You can't just state that there are no absolutes because in doing so you have created an absolute statement. Ie to say everything is relative is self contradictory because it does not rule out an absolute if you adhere to it, and it is an absolute statement itself if you enforce it.
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Inspiration can come from anywhere. It completely depends on what the individual likes to do. Please I encourage everyone to post their first instinctive thoughts. Right now all I'm doing is typing my thoughts its basically like improvising I guess. My opinion is we can learn from everybody and everything. One example of why I like this is because of how Axslav streams. He simply says what he thinks and its seems so fluid and geniue I find it so refreshing compared to caster who try to put on an act. Lets look at 2GD he is loved because he is himself and people find him funny, imo he just speaks his mind. And I find genuine people interesting because they are unique.
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The only limit here is human mind's comprehension. Expand yourself, be thirsty of knowledge, seek for it, and your limits will expand. Limits will always exist as long as matter exists, physic laws take no exceptions, but having an open mind gives your life a totally new dimension.
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On January 20 2013 09:17 BlindSC2 wrote:
Seems to me like OP has started the road that leads to true all-encompassing nihilism. The start and the end of that road always sound the craziest
It honestly was in 5 days my entire mindset has changed, thats what I'm trying to communicate. And if people can better themselves that's fine, if people think I'm crazy, even better lol.
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On January 20 2013 09:20 Silencioseu wrote:
The only limit here is human mind's comprehension. Expand yourself, be thirsty of knowledge, seek for it, and your limits will expand. Limits will always exist as long as matter exists, physic laws take no exceptions, but having an open mind gives your life a totally new dimension.
I like your style.
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On January 20 2013 09:21 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:20 Silencioseu wrote:
The only limit here is human mind's comprehension. Expand yourself, be thirsty of knowledge, seek for it, and your limits will expand. Limits will always exist as long as matter exists, physic laws take no exceptions, but having an open mind gives your life a totally new dimension. I like your style.
Oh my, you totally raised my self-appreciation right now!
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On January 20 2013 09:21 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:17 BlindSC2 wrote:
Seems to me like OP has started the road that leads to true all-encompassing nihilism. The start and the end of that road always sound the craziest It honestly was in 5 days my entire mindset has changed, thats what I'm trying to communicate. And if people can better themselves that's fine, if people think I'm crazy, even better lol. people don't think you're crazy because of your change of mind in 5 days, it's because of your incomprehensible op.
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On January 20 2013 09:22 Yorbon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:21 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:17 BlindSC2 wrote:
Seems to me like OP has started the road that leads to true all-encompassing nihilism. The start and the end of that road always sound the craziest It honestly was in 5 days my entire mindset has changed, thats what I'm trying to communicate. And if people can better themselves that's fine, if people think I'm crazy, even better lol. people don't think you're crazy because of your change of mind in 5 days, it's because of your incomprehensible op.
Then maybe they should ask questions and try to understand.
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Oh god its like I'm in 6th grade all over again.
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On January 20 2013 09:24 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:22 Yorbon wrote:On January 20 2013 09:21 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:17 BlindSC2 wrote:
Seems to me like OP has started the road that leads to true all-encompassing nihilism. The start and the end of that road always sound the craziest It honestly was in 5 days my entire mindset has changed, thats what I'm trying to communicate. And if people can better themselves that's fine, if people think I'm crazy, even better lol. people don't think you're crazy because of your change of mind in 5 days, it's because of your incomprehensible op. Then maybe they should ask questions and try to understand.
How old are you?
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On January 20 2013 09:24 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:22 Yorbon wrote:On January 20 2013 09:21 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:17 BlindSC2 wrote:
Seems to me like OP has started the road that leads to true all-encompassing nihilism. The start and the end of that road always sound the craziest It honestly was in 5 days my entire mindset has changed, thats what I'm trying to communicate. And if people can better themselves that's fine, if people think I'm crazy, even better lol. people don't think you're crazy because of your change of mind in 5 days, it's because of your incomprehensible op. Then maybe they should ask questions and try to understand. I have, you're just not finding them. be openminded.
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On January 20 2013 09:25 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:24 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:22 Yorbon wrote:On January 20 2013 09:21 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:17 BlindSC2 wrote:
Seems to me like OP has started the road that leads to true all-encompassing nihilism. The start and the end of that road always sound the craziest It honestly was in 5 days my entire mindset has changed, thats what I'm trying to communicate. And if people can better themselves that's fine, if people think I'm crazy, even better lol. people don't think you're crazy because of your change of mind in 5 days, it's because of your incomprehensible op. Then maybe they should ask questions and try to understand. How old are you?
Is time/age relevant? Glad you went back to one of the topics :D
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One day this week, there will be a surprise test.
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sam..just stop...
OP, come on, that shit is stupid.
i would venture to say that something like 75% of people have almost the exact same thought as the next average joe at some point of their life...the pinnacle of maturity is realizing you aren't special by conjuring up crap like this that people can grasp without half assed generalities...
OP is confusing vagueness with depth..understandable..
also Sam, you're the cutest poster on team liquid, and i mean it the same way you did..
i haven't posted in ages but it's so annoying to see this kind of shit, even if i don't ever have to come back..just that people don't get it, too many people coddling too many other people
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I honestly couldn't comprehend any of the first post.
Are you advocating that reality is what we make of it (and there is no external world to limit our decisions) or that we should be skeptical about all knowledge and not make assumptions?
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This is just saying think with an open mind and look at everything from multiple perspectives. Sounds obvious and everybody's heard it before but nobody does it. They just think about it and bring it up when it's useful. This has good information but it's written poorly and the writer just sounds like he's high
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On January 20 2013 09:27 sam!zdat wrote:
One day this week, there will be a surprise test.
Speaking of test you now raised a question. What is more effective as a test question, an open ended questions or a closed ended question?
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On January 20 2013 09:30 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I honestly couldn't comprehend any of the first post.
Are you advocating that reality is what we make of it (and there is no external world to limit our decisions) or that we should be skeptical about all knowledge and not make assumptions?
Doesn't matter what I think.
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On January 20 2013 09:24 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:22 Yorbon wrote:On January 20 2013 09:21 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:17 BlindSC2 wrote:
Seems to me like OP has started the road that leads to true all-encompassing nihilism. The start and the end of that road always sound the craziest It honestly was in 5 days my entire mindset has changed, thats what I'm trying to communicate. And if people can better themselves that's fine, if people think I'm crazy, even better lol. people don't think you're crazy because of your change of mind in 5 days, it's because of your incomprehensible op. Then maybe they should ask questions and try to understand.
It's funny, because i asked questions, and you just answered that you liked me asking question, but did not answer a single one.
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WTF is this? I came in here expecting a rundown of De Moivre's theorem.
And OP - any idiot can ask questions; only the wise may provide answers.
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Question No. 1: Consider the phrase "as if". Expound.
Question No. 2: How many mirrors are in the word "vanity"?
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On January 20 2013 09:31 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:24 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:22 Yorbon wrote:On January 20 2013 09:21 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:17 BlindSC2 wrote:
Seems to me like OP has started the road that leads to true all-encompassing nihilism. The start and the end of that road always sound the craziest It honestly was in 5 days my entire mindset has changed, thats what I'm trying to communicate. And if people can better themselves that's fine, if people think I'm crazy, even better lol. people don't think you're crazy because of your change of mind in 5 days, it's because of your incomprehensible op. Then maybe they should ask questions and try to understand. It's funny, because i asked questions, and you just answered that you liked me asking question, but did not answer a single one.
Are you looking for an absolute answer or are you looking to simply add a new experiance to your life?
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On January 20 2013 09:32 Ianuus wrote:
WTF is this? I came in here expecting a rundown of De Moivre's theorem.
And OP - any idiot can ask questions; only the wise may provide answers.
The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing- Socrates
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The op is becoming ridiculous, i don't even...
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On January 20 2013 09:35 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:32 Ianuus wrote:
WTF is this? I came in here expecting a rundown of De Moivre's theorem.
And OP - any idiot can ask questions; only the wise may provide answers. The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing- Socrates
Incorrect. Socrates spoke Greek, not English.
(But actually, those the words of Plato, not Socrates. Plato is using Socrates as a mouthpiece to advocate his theory of forms, which has been obsolete since the enlightenment. Well, obsolete in terms of raising relevant questions and answering relevant answers, not if you're just getting started on epistomology and "OMG cave allegory so deep")
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On January 20 2013 09:24 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:22 Yorbon wrote:On January 20 2013 09:21 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:17 BlindSC2 wrote:
Seems to me like OP has started the road that leads to true all-encompassing nihilism. The start and the end of that road always sound the craziest It honestly was in 5 days my entire mindset has changed, thats what I'm trying to communicate. And if people can better themselves that's fine, if people think I'm crazy, even better lol. people don't think you're crazy because of your change of mind in 5 days, it's because of your incomprehensible op. Then maybe they should ask questions and try to understand.
I literally have problems with every sentence of the OP.
For example:
Matter has 2 properties that of an individual and of a group, it has a instinct or sense of ego and adapts to both independently (Examples relate quantum mechanics and general relativity but don’t limit yourself to those apply this to everything around you)
I don't understand anything about that sentence. I don't even understand what you mean with "matter". Do you really mean atoms etc.? But why would an atom have "instinct"? What do you understand as "instinct" so that this idea makes sense? Why do you use "individual" to describe an atom? What does "individual" mean to you for that sentence to make sense?
Something that could be interesting to watch regarding humans and limits in thinking, and how free one is or probably isn't (it's a series of 25 videos): + Show Spoiler +
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I am at the weird part of TL again.
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On January 20 2013 09:28 CrY. wrote:
sam..just stop...
also Sam, you're the cutest poster on team liquid, and i mean it the same way you did..
none of this is my fault
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On January 20 2013 09:42 Ropid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:24 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:22 Yorbon wrote:On January 20 2013 09:21 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:17 BlindSC2 wrote:
Seems to me like OP has started the road that leads to true all-encompassing nihilism. The start and the end of that road always sound the craziest It honestly was in 5 days my entire mindset has changed, thats what I'm trying to communicate. And if people can better themselves that's fine, if people think I'm crazy, even better lol. people don't think you're crazy because of your change of mind in 5 days, it's because of your incomprehensible op. Then maybe they should ask questions and try to understand. I literally have problems with every sentence of the OP. For example: Show nested quote +Matter has 2 properties that of an individual and of a group, it has a instinct or sense of ego and adapts to both independently (Examples relate quantum mechanics and general relativity but don’t limit yourself to those apply this to everything around you) I don't understand anything about that sentence. I don't even understand what you mean with "matter". Do you really mean atoms etc.? But why would an atom have "instinct"? What do you understand as "instinct" so that this idea makes sense? Why do you use "individual" to describe an atom? What does "individual" mean to you for that sentence to make sense? Something that could be interesting to watch regarding humans and limits in thinking, and how free one is or probably isn't (it's a series of 25 videos): + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnIGh9g6fA
That's some pretty interesting series of vids, thanks.
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I have another question gentelman, what is the difference between Facilitation and Dictation?
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Decode it.
If you can't, it's apparent you are limiting yourself.
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On January 20 2013 09:46 Fus Ro Dah wrote:
I am at the weird part of TL again.
This cracked me up, but weird is good imo.
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On January 20 2013 09:50 ECHOZs wrote:
I have another question gentelman, what is the difference between Facilitation and Dictation?
One tends to be rather hard, while the other at least hides beneath the veneer of the soft.
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On January 20 2013 09:51 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:46 Fus Ro Dah wrote:
I am at the weird part of TL again. This cracked me up, but weird is good imo.
Oh no, you're categorizing things into good and bad, you're limiting yourself!
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On January 20 2013 09:50 ECHOZs wrote:
I have another question gentelman, what is the difference between Facilitation and Dictation?
Woah, looks like he delimited himself from correct spelling as well. Good going son.
Easy, facilication means making something easier, and dictation means reading out something to someone else. I'm not even sure how one can get these two confused.
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On January 20 2013 09:51 furerkip wrote:
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Decode it.
If you can't, it's apparent you are limiting yourself.
Challenge accepted.
I think this is just you trying to fit in the majority in the subculture that is TL. Being a part of a group is essential and so is being your own independent person.
Decoded
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On January 20 2013 09:51 furerkip wrote:
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Decode it.
If you can't, it's apparent you are limiting yourself.
according to nassim taleb, it helps if you inject yrself with dopamine
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On January 20 2013 09:50 ECHOZs wrote:
I have another question gentelman, what is the difference between Facilitation and Dictation?
more to the point, what isn't the difference?
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On January 20 2013 09:53 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:50 ECHOZs wrote:
I have another question gentelman, what is the difference between Facilitation and Dictation? One tends to be rather hard, while the other at least hides beneath the veneer of the soft.
Thanks for answering. Facilitation is providing the tool for people to do what they have a passion for, while dictation if forcing people to do something they have no wish to do.
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Oh an OP, here's the homework to the task you set me:
PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS
I'm not even kidding.
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On January 20 2013 09:59 Ianuus wrote:
Oh an OP, here's the homework to the task you set me:
PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS
I'm not even kidding.
lol I honestly wish more people would speak their minds like you.
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On January 20 2013 09:06 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:05 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:03 sam!zdat wrote:On January 20 2013 09:02 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:00 sam!zdat wrote:
But is not the ability to say "NO!" precisely the essence of consciousness? I think people should limit themselves more! Thats GREAT! Its all about WHAT YOU THINK! Its your reality make of it as you wish :D No, no, precisely backwards. It's reality's you to make of you as it wishes. There are no absolutes. That's just, like, your opinion, man.
I lol'd.
Limits are your friend.
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Well I think we can all be sure the OP hasn't limited his drug use.
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what are your limits?
this is a made up thing, there is no 'my' to have limits. 'my limits' are a construct of the topic of your 2nd question. unless i am misunderstanding you
Why did matter evolve?
cause and effect
I'd like to respond to
"I now feel like holding thoughts to myself is itself an immoral act. By not being completely honest and true to ourselves we are limiting everything around us, and more importantly ourselves."
i am not sure how this first sentence led into the 2nd. what does holding thoughts to yourself have to do with not being honest and true to yourself?
I now pose another question, did you or do you limit yourself?
I didn't really understand the task. Just do whatever I feel like? I do that all the time lol. I mean I limit myself sometimes but I am not going to while typing the random shit that streams from my mind I mean I am doing that right now and am not limiting myself at all.
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On January 20 2013 10:01 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:59 Ianuus wrote:
Oh an OP, here's the homework to the task you set me:
PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS
I'm not even kidding. lol I honestly wish more people would speak their minds like you.
Right back at you mate, I do love a good argument now and again, and that's only possible if people spoke their minds, no matter how silly their opinion might be.
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what is this...i dont even
seriously drugs must be involved with the creation of this post (nothing against drugs) because there seems to be a disparity in the how the OP is written and what the OP is about.
interesting ideas in some of the places but this is not coherent at all
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On January 20 2013 10:04 prplhz wrote:
is this the new #yolo?
#You're only limiting ourselves?
Well it makes about as much sense as the op.
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I was eating some chips and thought why limit myself I can eat all of them and then I ate like a whole bag of chips yeah woo no limits
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On January 20 2013 10:09 imallinson wrote:#You're only limiting ourselves? Well it makes about as much sense as the op.
LMAOI love you.
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On January 20 2013 10:09 ControlMonkey wrote:
I was eating some chips and thought why limit myself I can eat all of them and then I ate like a whole bag of chips yeah woo no limits you're limiting yourself to insides of the bag, you narrowminded monkey! Eat the bag itself!
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This is true. The only reason why people are unhappy is because of them limiting themselves. This may sound rough and unfair towards people having it hard, but if you really think about it, the only thing between being unhappy and happy is your thoughts/how you produce limits that doesn't exist.
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On January 20 2013 10:11 Yorbon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:09 ControlMonkey wrote:
I was eating some chips and thought why limit myself I can eat all of them and then I ate like a whole bag of chips yeah woo no limits you're limiting yourself to insides of the bag, you narrowminded monkey! Eat the bag itself!
Why the hell did he only have one bag in the first place!! He needs to buy in bulk don't be so narrow minded
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On January 20 2013 10:11 Yorbon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:09 ControlMonkey wrote:
I was eating some chips and thought why limit myself I can eat all of them and then I ate like a whole bag of chips yeah woo no limits you're limiting yourself to insides of the bag, you narrowminded monkey! Eat the bag itself!
Yes! Eat the bag, eat everything. Eat the universe if you will. That way you can become your own limitless universe of planets, stars and stomach acid.
This talking utter nonsense is easier than it looks.
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On January 20 2013 10:11 Yorbon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:09 ControlMonkey wrote:
I was eating some chips and thought why limit myself I can eat all of them and then I ate like a whole bag of chips yeah woo no limits you're limiting yourself to insides of the bag, you narrowminded monkey! Eat the bag itself!
Also I have some icecream and some soy sauce and some steak and some bread so Im going to have some ice cream and steak sandwich win a glass of soy sauce
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Matter exists so that it can divide conciousness. Something that creates a barrier between you and me because without that barrier there would be no you and me. To create the individual, the Ego and by that the ability to experience, to learn, to act.
Well thats my perception of our reality anyway. (in probably too few words to understand ^^)
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On January 20 2013 10:16 ControlMonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:11 Yorbon wrote:On January 20 2013 10:09 ControlMonkey wrote:
I was eating some chips and thought why limit myself I can eat all of them and then I ate like a whole bag of chips yeah woo no limits you're limiting yourself to insides of the bag, you narrowminded monkey! Eat the bag itself! Also I have some icecream and some soy sauce and some steak and some bread so Im going to have some ice cream and steak sandwich win a glass of soy sauce TT, now i'm feeling like eating.
I've decided i should not limit myself. Have a good day now, y'all.
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On January 20 2013 10:01 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:59 Ianuus wrote:
Oh an OP, here's the homework to the task you set me:
PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS
I'm not even kidding. lol I honestly wish more people would speak their minds like you.
No you don't. You completely skipped my point which rendered everything you said a fallacy.
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What the crap is this thread.... lol
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On January 20 2013 10:20 aYtDuSteR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:01 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:59 Ianuus wrote:
Oh an OP, here's the homework to the task you set me:
PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS
I'm not even kidding. lol I honestly wish more people would speak their minds like you. No you don't. You completely skipped my point which rendered everything you said a fallacy.
What is a fallacy and how has your personal experience shaped your definition of a fallacy?
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On January 20 2013 10:20 aYtDuSteR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:01 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:59 Ianuus wrote:
Oh an OP, here's the homework to the task you set me:
PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS
I'm not even kidding. lol I honestly wish more people would speak their minds like you. No you don't. You completely skipped my point which rendered everything you said a fallacy.
Please please please tell me you meant phallusy.
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Wait, haven't we had this thread before? I have the strangest deja vu.
I think the other one was about a box or something...and it made about as much sense as this one.
Edit: well this is pretty weird, apparently there's a thread about that from today, but the one I remember was from long ago...
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[QUOTE]On January 20 2013 10:03 travis wrote:
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what are your limits?[/quote]
this is a made up thing, there is no 'my' to have limits. 'my limits' are a construct of the topic of your 2nd question. unless i am misunderstanding you
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Why did matter evolve?
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cause and effect
Yes, but what is the source of the cause? And what does the cause represent itself? I see the cause as being what ever you want. My perception is that all matter is created equal, why? Because it all has an original source.
Lets look at some comparisons in our culture. Vegans, they value animals over plants, why? What is the difference between plants and animals at its most basic level?
Quantum mechanics and General Relativity the conflict, why? Because individually particles act differently, in a sense they have a mind of their own.
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On January 20 2013 10:26 zz_ wrote:Wait, haven't we had this thread before? I have the strangest deja vu. I think the other one was about a box or something...and it made about as much sense as this one. Edit: well this is pretty weird, apparently there's a thread about that from today, but the one I remember was from long ago...
haha yeah I saw that it did encourage me a little to make this post.
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On January 20 2013 10:34 FawxzTV wrote:
timecube?
Simulation?
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i'm drunk and wtf is this.
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On January 20 2013 08:54 ECHOZs wrote:
Limit theory is everything and nothing at the same time. There are no limits yet while at the same time limits are inevitable. It’s impossible to escape limits but yet every second you break limits. It’s a continuous cycle of limits and then breaking those limits.
So it's like when goku's turns super sayan and we think he's really strong and all but then a millionth episodes later he turns SSJ2 and there we think he's really the ultimate warrior and stuff but then he turns SSJ3 and then ...
Ah but wait, where does gogeta fit in your theory ?
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On January 20 2013 10:30 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:03 travis wrote:
what are your limits?
this is a made up thing, there is no 'my' to have limits. 'my limits' are a construct of the topic of your 2nd question. unless i am misunderstanding you Why did matter evolve? cause and effect Yes, but what is the source of the cause? And what does the cause represent itself? I see the cause as being what ever you want. My perception is that all matter is created equal, why? Because it all has an original source. Lets look at some comparisons in our culture. Vegans, they value animals over plants, why? What is the difference between plants and animals at its most basic level? Quantum mechanics and General Relativity the conflict, why? Because individually particles act differently, in a sense they have a mind of their own.
You're setting a limit on yourself by assuming that matter is created.
But seriously, your entire idea (which, who are we kidding, isn't even yours, nor is it any sort of breakthrough) is self-defeating. The refusal to set or accept limits is a limitation in-of-itself. This thread is absurdly stupid.
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On January 20 2013 10:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:30 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:03 travis wrote:
what are your limits?
this is a made up thing, there is no 'my' to have limits. 'my limits' are a construct of the topic of your 2nd question. unless i am misunderstanding you Why did matter evolve? cause and effect Yes, but what is the source of the cause? And what does the cause represent itself? I see the cause as being what ever you want. My perception is that all matter is created equal, why? Because it all has an original source. Lets look at some comparisons in our culture. Vegans, they value animals over plants, why? What is the difference between plants and animals at its most basic level? Quantum mechanics and General Relativity the conflict, why? Because individually particles act differently, in a sense they have a mind of their own. You're setting a limit on yourself by assuming that matter is created. But seriously, your entire idea (which, who are we kidding, isn't even yours, nor is it any sort of breakthrough) is self-defeating. The refusal to set or accept limits is a limitation in-of-itself. This thread is absurdly stupid.
I have a question, what is a goal?
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On January 20 2013 08:54 ECHOZs wrote:
Why did matter evolve?
I think because there is some type of instinct built on being an individual and fully and freely express your perception of the world without having any limits. I think most people are held back by limits, by avoiding new experiences, being satisfied with life in and of itself limits your individuality, but the only thing that matters is how the individual feels, that’s why limit theory applies to everything and everyone, every piece of matter is unique and from some source, we need to stop limiting people by being closed minded.
Did you actually read your answer to your own rhetorical question? It doesn't answer your question and thus provides no rhetoric.
A Personal Example
For instance 6 days ago I thought there was a 99% chance there was no god. Looking back at that I find it completely irrational because I’m limiting myself to what our reality refers to as God. These types of beliefs were limiting my true ability to express my perception of the world. I now feel like holding thoughts to myself is itself an immoral act. By not being completely honest and true to ourselves we are limiting everything around us, and more importantly ourselves.
Remember that task I talked about before? Well here it is.
The task is to type your first instinctive thoughts……………………………………………………………………………RIGHT NOW ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..JUST TYPE……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………IF YOU ARE READING THIS ………………..AND………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. HAVENT ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….TYPED ANYTHING YET YOU ARE…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. LIMITING……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….. YOURSELF…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
I now pose another question, did you or do you limit yourself?
You ask all these ambiguous, subjective questions in rhetorical question form and they don't add ANYTHING to your argument. You posted like 10 paragraphs and managed to say almost nothing. What is your argument? I can't figure it out, probably partly due to my reading comprehension being low because I think this is stupid and partly because your writing is so horribly dense with retarded wannabe philosophic-ish questions that leave us all wondering what the hell you're talking about.
Also, I have a small hunch that you just wanted to post about limit breaks because your inner child thinks they're cool.
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On January 20 2013 10:45 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:30 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:03 travis wrote:
what are your limits?
this is a made up thing, there is no 'my' to have limits. 'my limits' are a construct of the topic of your 2nd question. unless i am misunderstanding you Why did matter evolve? cause and effect Yes, but what is the source of the cause? And what does the cause represent itself? I see the cause as being what ever you want. My perception is that all matter is created equal, why? Because it all has an original source. Lets look at some comparisons in our culture. Vegans, they value animals over plants, why? What is the difference between plants and animals at its most basic level? Quantum mechanics and General Relativity the conflict, why? Because individually particles act differently, in a sense they have a mind of their own. You're setting a limit on yourself by assuming that matter is created. But seriously, your entire idea (which, who are we kidding, isn't even yours, nor is it any sort of breakthrough) is self-defeating. The refusal to set or accept limits is a limitation in-of-itself. This thread is absurdly stupid. I have a question, what is a goal?
I don't know.
Might I ask you the same?
Don't forget to answer my previous two complaints either:
1. Why do you limit yourself by assuming matter is created?
2. Isn't refusing to accept or set limits limiting yourself?
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I feel like the OP is hypomanic ;o
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On January 20 2013 10:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:45 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:30 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:03 travis wrote:
what are your limits?
this is a made up thing, there is no 'my' to have limits. 'my limits' are a construct of the topic of your 2nd question. unless i am misunderstanding you Why did matter evolve? cause and effect Yes, but what is the source of the cause? And what does the cause represent itself? I see the cause as being what ever you want. My perception is that all matter is created equal, why? Because it all has an original source. Lets look at some comparisons in our culture. Vegans, they value animals over plants, why? What is the difference between plants and animals at its most basic level? Quantum mechanics and General Relativity the conflict, why? Because individually particles act differently, in a sense they have a mind of their own. You're setting a limit on yourself by assuming that matter is created. But seriously, your entire idea (which, who are we kidding, isn't even yours, nor is it any sort of breakthrough) is self-defeating. The refusal to set or accept limits is a limitation in-of-itself. This thread is absurdly stupid. I have a question, what is a goal? I don't know. Might I ask you the same?
haha nice response I like it. I think a goal is a mental limit. For instance Major just joined a kespa team, why?
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ECHOZs what is your primary language? I might not tear your entire post apart if it's something besides English. Otherwise, your writing is about at the fifth grade level and I'm debating deconstructing it line by line.
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On January 20 2013 10:34 FawxzTV wrote:
timecube?
came to post
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"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them."
- Jackie Chan
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On January 20 2013 10:48 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:45 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:30 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:03 travis wrote:
what are your limits?
this is a made up thing, there is no 'my' to have limits. 'my limits' are a construct of the topic of your 2nd question. unless i am misunderstanding you Why did matter evolve? cause and effect Yes, but what is the source of the cause? And what does the cause represent itself? I see the cause as being what ever you want. My perception is that all matter is created equal, why? Because it all has an original source. Lets look at some comparisons in our culture. Vegans, they value animals over plants, why? What is the difference between plants and animals at its most basic level? Quantum mechanics and General Relativity the conflict, why? Because individually particles act differently, in a sense they have a mind of their own. You're setting a limit on yourself by assuming that matter is created. But seriously, your entire idea (which, who are we kidding, isn't even yours, nor is it any sort of breakthrough) is self-defeating. The refusal to set or accept limits is a limitation in-of-itself. This thread is absurdly stupid. I have a question, what is a goal? I don't know. Might I ask you the same? haha nice response I like it. I think a goal is a mental limit. For instance Major just joined a kespa team, why?
What is a mental limit?
Why do you assume matter was created?
Are you limiting yourself by refusing to accept any limits?
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On January 20 2013 10:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:45 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:30 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:03 travis wrote:
what are your limits?
this is a made up thing, there is no 'my' to have limits. 'my limits' are a construct of the topic of your 2nd question. unless i am misunderstanding you Why did matter evolve? cause and effect Yes, but what is the source of the cause? And what does the cause represent itself? I see the cause as being what ever you want. My perception is that all matter is created equal, why? Because it all has an original source. Lets look at some comparisons in our culture. Vegans, they value animals over plants, why? What is the difference between plants and animals at its most basic level? Quantum mechanics and General Relativity the conflict, why? Because individually particles act differently, in a sense they have a mind of their own. You're setting a limit on yourself by assuming that matter is created. But seriously, your entire idea (which, who are we kidding, isn't even yours, nor is it any sort of breakthrough) is self-defeating. The refusal to set or accept limits is a limitation in-of-itself. This thread is absurdly stupid. I have a question, what is a goal? I don't know. Might I ask you the same? haha nice response I like it. I think a goal is a mental limit. For instance Major just joined a kespa team, why? What is a mental limit? Why do you assume matter was created? Are you limiting yourself by refusing to accept any limits?
Stop fucking answering questions with questions to look like you're smart. It's not fooling anyone. How old are you? It feels like you're in high school.
User was warned for this post
[edit] SORRY I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE OP AND POSTING MORE RETARDED SHIT, TOTAL MISTAKE ON MY PART [/edit]
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On January 20 2013 10:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
ECHOZs what is your primary language? I might not tear your entire post apart if it's something besides English. Otherwise, your writing is about at the fifth grade level and I'm debating deconstructing it line by line.
Please don't limit yourself to what my primary language is, tear it apart if that's what you want to do. Doing is a Quantum leap from imagining- Barbara Sher
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On January 20 2013 10:51 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:45 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:30 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:03 travis wrote:
what are your limits?
this is a made up thing, there is no 'my' to have limits. 'my limits' are a construct of the topic of your 2nd question. unless i am misunderstanding you Why did matter evolve? cause and effect Yes, but what is the source of the cause? And what does the cause represent itself? I see the cause as being what ever you want. My perception is that all matter is created equal, why? Because it all has an original source. Lets look at some comparisons in our culture. Vegans, they value animals over plants, why? What is the difference between plants and animals at its most basic level? Quantum mechanics and General Relativity the conflict, why? Because individually particles act differently, in a sense they have a mind of their own. You're setting a limit on yourself by assuming that matter is created. But seriously, your entire idea (which, who are we kidding, isn't even yours, nor is it any sort of breakthrough) is self-defeating. The refusal to set or accept limits is a limitation in-of-itself. This thread is absurdly stupid. I have a question, what is a goal? I don't know. Might I ask you the same? haha nice response I like it. I think a goal is a mental limit. For instance Major just joined a kespa team, why? What is a mental limit? Why do you assume matter was created? Are you limiting yourself by refusing to accept any limits? Stop fucking answering questions with questions to look like you're smart. It's not fooling anyone. How old are you? It feels like you're in high school.
Are you serious? No one is answering questions with questions. I don't know why Major joined a kespa team, I am trying to get him to answer his original question because I think he has no clue what he is talking about and he never really answered it. That's literally what he is doing. You should really read context of posts before you angrily flame them.
You should work on your manners though because all that flaming doesn't make you look smart either. In fact, it just makes you look like the very thing you accuse me of.
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So is this a troll thread or am I missing something?
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On January 20 2013 10:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:45 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:30 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:03 travis wrote:
what are your limits?
this is a made up thing, there is no 'my' to have limits. 'my limits' are a construct of the topic of your 2nd question. unless i am misunderstanding you Why did matter evolve? cause and effect Yes, but what is the source of the cause? And what does the cause represent itself? I see the cause as being what ever you want. My perception is that all matter is created equal, why? Because it all has an original source. Lets look at some comparisons in our culture. Vegans, they value animals over plants, why? What is the difference between plants and animals at its most basic level? Quantum mechanics and General Relativity the conflict, why? Because individually particles act differently, in a sense they have a mind of their own. You're setting a limit on yourself by assuming that matter is created. But seriously, your entire idea (which, who are we kidding, isn't even yours, nor is it any sort of breakthrough) is self-defeating. The refusal to set or accept limits is a limitation in-of-itself. This thread is absurdly stupid. I have a question, what is a goal? I don't know. Might I ask you the same? haha nice response I like it. I think a goal is a mental limit. For instance Major just joined a kespa team, why? What is a mental limit? Why do you assume matter was created? Are you limiting yourself by refusing to accept any limits?
Once again these are only my opinions people looking for definite answers are only going to get upset. I just want to start a flow of communication, that's all. I think a mental limit is a goal and a goal is a mental limit, I guess I'll uncover a part of myself now, I have an education is social work and human services. Solution focused to be more specific. I assume matter is created because that's currently my perception, but lets talk it out please. Matter can never be purely created or destroyed if we use the laws of physics and science, why?
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So how does not limiting oneself deal with following: your rights end when you trample other person's rights. How is that not limiting in your absolute no limit context?
Or is this just a mental exercise?
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An incredibly pragmatic post with an incredibly non-existent point. You promote to think limitlessly, alright why don't you just say free-thinking? Instead you replace it with a synonym and call it a theory, the "Limit Theory". And beyond that you create contradictory statements (Limit theory is everything and nothing at the same time) which is supposedly used a lot to try and intrigue the reader into thinking deeply into the text. However in this case there is no point, there is no destination or conclusion that the reader can reach, paradoxes are used in text with a purpose and meaning, not used for the sake of looking good. So what I'm saying is, don't be so pompous when writing your posts it just implies that you're trying to be superior, especially when abstract thought is the subject at hand. If it was a science post I could let it past since new knowledge has some superiority upon one's mind, but imagination is not superior it is thought that isn't necessarily correct.
And oh boy, "The Essence of Existence?" I'm glad you put a question mark on that cause #@$@ this table would not be standing, imagination or "limitless" thought is most definitely not the essence of our existence, it is a part of us and part of how we are able to evolve through thinking beyond the boundaries of everyday life (invention of the wheel, steam engine etc.). Life may not be the same without it, it'd just be more systematic, like ants. Realistically the essence should be cells, the building blocks of life without it we're doomed to not exist, including in spirit and mind.
Generally, what you are promoting is a very Romantic view of life (excluding the science part) while again throwing in some nihilism and a bit of w/e the hell else you have picked up in your recent life. You are promoting the way of thinking imaginatively, broadening one's mind to assess and consider all ideas. Which... is cute, until we all become hippies.
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Yes, but what is the source of the cause?
an effect 
And what does the cause represent itself?
represent? it just is what it is. cause and effect is just how things work, it's basic nature of existence.
I see the cause as being what ever you want. My perception is that all matter is created equal, why? Because it all has an original source.
what do you mean by source. if you mean that cause and effect is a way of describing the evolution of existence and that it's all related then yeah sure. if you mean that all causes and effects are the result of a singular event then I have no idea but I doubt it.
Lets look at some comparisons in our culture. Vegans, they value animals over plants, why? What is the difference between plants and animals at its most basic level?
it's much more clear that animals have conscious experiences we can identify with, like emotions. animals clearly suffer.
Quantum mechanics and General Relativity the conflict, why? Because individually particles act differently, in a sense they have a mind of their own.
I don't know enough about this stuff to know what you are trying to say here.
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Nothing is true. Everything is permitted. Bullocks.
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On January 20 2013 10:15 imallinson wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:11 Yorbon wrote:On January 20 2013 10:09 ControlMonkey wrote:
I was eating some chips and thought why limit myself I can eat all of them and then I ate like a whole bag of chips yeah woo no limits you're limiting yourself to insides of the bag, you narrowminded monkey! Eat the bag itself! Yes! Eat the bag, eat everything. Eat the universe if you will. That way you can become your own limitless universe of planets, stars and stomach acid. This talking utter nonsense is easier than it looks.
Making sense is overrated. And the number of word combinations that make no sense is much greater than the ones that do. So where are you more likely to find truth?
We are like the drunken person who looks for his keys below the street light even though it's much more likely to hide under the dark shadow of gibberish.
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Well to the OP. Right now I'm reading David Hume's "An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding" for my philosophy class. I think it would help you out a lot, because it seems like you're making a lot of metaphysical claims, but the reality is you really have no basis for any of your statements because your reason is limited, and entirely based on, your experience. Far more than I previously realized.
So statements like "all matter is created equal", I don't think you have any means of obtaining this knowledge through your experience. "There are no absolutes" is an absolute statement - but this is a separate point.
The problem with thinking without limits, is that it heavily implies that you should think beyond what you know from experience. But this is the reason for a lot of self-deluded philosophy. It will just lead to unfounded statements and errors, i.e. ultimately it will just be a road to nowhere. I think you'll gain far more satisfaction from establishing the truth of things.
Unfortunately the smartest people on Earth have been working on these ideas for a long time, so its pretty hard to come up with some new discovery that goes beyond the limits that we know, whether you're talking science or epistemology. But if you read all of them, maybe, just maybe, you can add something that will meaningfully add to our limits.
Otherwise you'll end up like a crackpot lol. Just like those people on youtube with their free energy ideas, getting shot down by yours truly 
On January 20 2013 11:05 hypercube wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:15 imallinson wrote:On January 20 2013 10:11 Yorbon wrote:On January 20 2013 10:09 ControlMonkey wrote:
I was eating some chips and thought why limit myself I can eat all of them and then I ate like a whole bag of chips yeah woo no limits you're limiting yourself to insides of the bag, you narrowminded monkey! Eat the bag itself! Yes! Eat the bag, eat everything. Eat the universe if you will. That way you can become your own limitless universe of planets, stars and stomach acid. This talking utter nonsense is easier than it looks. Making sense is overrated. And the number of word combinations that make no sense are much greater than the ones that don't. So where are you more likely to find truth? We are like the drunken person who looks for his keys below the street light even though it's much more likely to hide under the dark shadow of gibberish.
David Byrne's album "stop making sense" is a fun illustration of the point. I remember an interview where he said that dancing isn't necessarily rational, we don't know why its fun, but we just do it because its enjoyable. Among many other things I suppose, that we can't find some fundamental, rational basis for.
Turns out cause and effect doesn't make any sense either. There is no way for our brains to rationally justify believing in it, i.e. that similar causes will lead to similar effects in the future. But oh well, it worked so far! Humans are pretty irrational when you think about it. All those emotions. Anyway that's my contribution to this weird, weird (but enjoyable) thread
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On January 20 2013 10:51 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
ECHOZs what is your primary language? I might not tear your entire post apart if it's something besides English. Otherwise, your writing is about at the fifth grade level and I'm debating deconstructing it line by line. Please don't limit yourself to what my primary language is, tear it apart if that's what you want to do. Doing is a Quantum leap from imagining- Barbara Sher
Okay, here we go. Your writing is unclear because you don't understand the basics of expository writing, which is to state something as simply as possible and not hide it behind flowery language because your point itself lacks substance and isn't really saying anything at all. Brevity is the soul of wit, and it makes it a lot easier for us to understand what you want to say.
You think you're "fostering thought" in us or something but you're just parading your idea around on a banner like those people who sit on street corners with signs telling people to "WAKE UP" because they're all not seeing the bigger picture, challenging people that walk by to provoke them into arguing then convincing himself that he's done them a service by making them think when in reality it just annoyed them. You're probably a decently smart person but you have yourself convinced that because you know a little bit about a little bit, you understand the universe better than anyone else does. Sit down, dude. You're not smarter than everyone else is, and your idea isn't brilliant by any means. In fact, I'm pretty sure most of us don't even know what your idea or point is because your writing was so horribly unclear that it couldn't really convey what your "Limit Theory" was. Can you state it in a sentence? Because heretofore you haven't.
I'll just stop here because this is just your subjective view of a subjective topic that can only be justified in an intersubjective manner. There's no right or wrong here. You can call something limiting or not limiting by your choice of words. For example, you can frame me stopping here as limiting myself from expressing my thoughts or by not limiting myself to having to fully express myself to someone I really don't think is all that intelligent over something that doesn't matter all that much to me.
ALSO I OWE GGTEMPLAR AN APOLOGY, I THOUGHT HE WAS THE OP AND THAT'S WHY I SAID HE SOUNDED LIKE HE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND ASKED HIS AGE.
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Many things have limits, if we had no limits it would be so boring man, we would have nothing to improve.
But OP it's nice that you don't limit yourself and use scientific words without knowing what they are about to back-up completely non related arguments Oo
What your post is about is philosophy, not science, there is a reason those two did part ways since ancient greece.
On January 20 2013 11:03 travis wrote:Show nested quote +
Quantum mechanics and General Relativity the conflict, why? Because individually particles act differently, in a sense they have a mind of their own.
I don't know enough about this stuff to know what you are trying to say here.
don't worry he doesn't know more than you do xD
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On January 20 2013 09:53 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:51 furerkip wrote:
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Decode it.
If you can't, it's apparent you are limiting yourself. Challenge accepted. I think this is just you trying to fit in the majority in the subculture that is TL. Being a part of a group is essential and so is being your own independent person. Decoded
Oh my god...
You got it right on the mark. How did you know?
Was it perhaps a secret link between me and you?
The limits stopping both of us from forging a connection...
Did they break?
As of now, I completely agree with you, consider me your ally. This thread is the birthplace of knowledge as far as I can tell. You ignoramuses trying to defy him: explain to me how he decoded the message! No one can do that! The only way you can solve it is through a limit being broken! It WASN'T gibberish, I would know, I'm the creator of it. It was a real code.
The limits were broken.
There is no other explanation.
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I'm gonna close this thread so as to not limit myself to it. Then I'm gonna jump off a bridge so as to not limit myself to life.
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ryu, ken and the rest of the gang always break their....wait for it.....
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Also, your starting assumptions are retarded. You say shit like "CHALLENGE EVERYTHING!" but then put like 5 other things that we're just going to assume and not challenge.
Read Descarte's 6 meditations and you'll understand what it means to challenge everything. Basically, you can doubt everything but the fact that you are doubting. I think, therefore, I am.
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Yeah I just read this entire thread and I'm pretty confused. I'm gonna go to the one place where I feel truly limitless - in my dreams Good night and thx for a confusing read.
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ECHOZs i see what you are doing with this thread, but its better suited to some other environment i fear.
Most OPs on this forum are carefully constructed, well thought out pieces of work with references and full explanations.
This is more just letting your brain spill on to the internet.
I would suggest criticizing your thoughts yourself, and get used to asking the right questions, because whenever anyone else asks you a question or criticizes what you are saying, you seem to fall back on your original statement. This is an example of circular reasoning and it just isn't enough to base anything on. You seem to believe whatever it is you are trying to say (i'm not entirely sure what that is even after reading the OP a few times), and i would suggest that fact alone is enough to make you want to form some sort of reasonable logical argument to back it up...
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On January 20 2013 11:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
ECHOZs i see what you are doing with this thread, but its better suited to some other environment i fear.
Most OPs on this forum are carefully constructed, well thought out pieces of work with references and full explanations.
This is more just letting your brain spill on to the internet.
I would suggest criticizing your thoughts yourself, and get used to asking the right questions, because whenever anyone else asks you a question or criticizes what you are saying, you seem to fall back on your original statement. This is an example of circular reasoning and it just isn't enough to base anything on. You seem to believe whatever it is you are trying to say (i'm not entirely sure what that is even after reading the OP a few times), and i would suggest that fact alone is enough to make you want to form some sort of reasonable logical argument to back it up...
But Jock! Reasonable logical arguments are limitations!
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On January 20 2013 10:51 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:45 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 10:30 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 10:03 travis wrote:
what are your limits?
this is a made up thing, there is no 'my' to have limits. 'my limits' are a construct of the topic of your 2nd question. unless i am misunderstanding you Why did matter evolve? cause and effect Yes, but what is the source of the cause? And what does the cause represent itself? I see the cause as being what ever you want. My perception is that all matter is created equal, why? Because it all has an original source. Lets look at some comparisons in our culture. Vegans, they value animals over plants, why? What is the difference between plants and animals at its most basic level? Quantum mechanics and General Relativity the conflict, why? Because individually particles act differently, in a sense they have a mind of their own. You're setting a limit on yourself by assuming that matter is created. But seriously, your entire idea (which, who are we kidding, isn't even yours, nor is it any sort of breakthrough) is self-defeating. The refusal to set or accept limits is a limitation in-of-itself. This thread is absurdly stupid. I have a question, what is a goal? I don't know. Might I ask you the same? haha nice response I like it. I think a goal is a mental limit. For instance Major just joined a kespa team, why? What is a mental limit? Why do you assume matter was created? Are you limiting yourself by refusing to accept any limits? Stop fucking answering questions with questions to look like you're smart. It's not fooling anyone. How old are you? It feels like you're in high school. User was warned for this post[edit] SORRY I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE OP AND POSTING MORE RETARDED SHIT, TOTAL MISTAKE ON MY PART [/edit]
Lol this cracked me up. What difference does it make who is making a statement? You thought it was me so you automatically picked apart what he said because you are having an emotional response to the thread and speaking with your instinct. And now you are apologizing? Why?
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On January 20 2013 11:05 radscorpion9 wrote:Well to the OP. Right now I'm reading David Hume's "An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding" for my philosophy class. I think it would help you out a lot, because it seems like you're making a lot of metaphysical claims, but the reality is you really have no basis for any of your statements because your reason is limited, and entirely based on, your experience. Far more than I previously realized. So statements like "all matter is created equal", I don't think you have any means of obtaining this knowledge through your experience. "There are no absolutes" is an absolute statement - but this is a separate point. The problem with thinking without limits, is that it heavily implies that you should think beyond what you know from experience. But this is the reason for a lot of self-deluded philosophy. It will just lead to unfounded statements and errors, i.e. ultimately it will just be a road to nowhere. I think you'll gain far more satisfaction from establishing the truth of things. Unfortunately the smartest people on Earth have been working on these ideas for a long time, so its pretty hard to come up with some new discovery that goes beyond the limits that we know, whether you're talking science or epistemology. But if you read all of them, maybe, just maybe, you can add something that will meaningfully add to our limits. Otherwise you'll end up like a crackpot lol. Just like those people on youtube with their free energy ideas, getting shot down by yours truly Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:05 hypercube wrote:On January 20 2013 10:15 imallinson wrote:On January 20 2013 10:11 Yorbon wrote:On January 20 2013 10:09 ControlMonkey wrote:
I was eating some chips and thought why limit myself I can eat all of them and then I ate like a whole bag of chips yeah woo no limits you're limiting yourself to insides of the bag, you narrowminded monkey! Eat the bag itself! Yes! Eat the bag, eat everything. Eat the universe if you will. That way you can become your own limitless universe of planets, stars and stomach acid. This talking utter nonsense is easier than it looks. Making sense is overrated. And the number of word combinations that make no sense are much greater than the ones that don't. So where are you more likely to find truth? We are like the drunken person who looks for his keys below the street light even though it's much more likely to hide under the dark shadow of gibberish. David Byrne's album "stop making sense" is a fun illustration of the point. I remember an interview where he said that dancing isn't necessarily rational, we don't know why its fun, but we just do it because its enjoyable. Among many other things I suppose, that we can't find some fundamental, rational basis for. Turns out cause and effect doesn't make any sense either. There is no way for our brains to rationally justify believing in it, i.e. that similar causes will lead to similar effects in the future. But oh well, it worked so far! Humans are pretty irrational when you think about it. All those emotions. Anyway that's my contribution to this weird, weird (but enjoyable) thread
Well, I was half-joking in defending nonsense. Although it can be fun or even productive to go on a random tangent without feeling the need to justify yourself.
On your point of having no rational basis on a fundamental level: I believe that's just a product of the way rationality works. It's very hard to create something from nothing through rational means (mainly logic). When people claim they did it turns out either their logic is incorrect, their concepts are fuzzy or ultimately their premises are arbitrary.
Which is fine, there's still room for rational discourse as long as people can agree on some set of arbitrary premises.
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So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"?
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On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"?
As far as I can tell, there is none. It's something he "invented" (which is really just him muddling a bunch of intro to philosophy questions without understanding to them). He has yet to respond to any of my concerns and seems to just dodge any criticism with vague astrology-like rhetoric.
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On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"?
Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers.
But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical?
The basic rules I personally live by are
All matter is equal
Question everything
There are no absolutes
Think without limits
This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes.
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On January 20 2013 11:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? As far as I can tell, there is none. It's something he "invented" (which is really just him muddling a bunch of intro to philosophy questions without understanding to them). He has yet to respond to any of my concerns and seems to just dodge any criticism with vague astrology-like rhetoric.
You are correct it is a personal philosophy. I ask a question, what is your personal philosophy? Why don't we compare?
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i went to new york and all i got was this i went to new york and all i got was this stupid tshirt tshirt
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On January 20 2013 11:38 ControlMonkey wrote:
i went to new york and all i got was this i went to new york and all i got was this stupid tshirt tshirt
lol I heard that before, its was from the movie the game, never watched it though......limiting myself.....
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On January 20 2013 10:51 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
ECHOZs what is your primary language? I might not tear your entire post apart if it's something besides English. Otherwise, your writing is about at the fifth grade level and I'm debating deconstructing it line by line. Please don't limit yourself to what my primary language is, tear it apart if that's what you want to do. Doing is a Quantum leap from imagining- Barbara Sher
He meant what is your primary language as in "Are you able to properly express yourself in English?" because it seems like all you do is provide really vague paradoxical concepts (Like there are no absolute, which is an absolute statement itself) and avoid questions by asking others questions.
It's really great that you found "a new way of thinking" for you, and completely seriously, if this makes you a better person / a happier person, then I think it's fucking great.
On the other hand, I think you try too hard to present your opinion has a revolution. Of course we limit ourselves. Everyone. Every single person that I have met and will ever meet limits itself at least in some degrees. We limit ourselves in so many ways, bad ways a lot of time, like when we don't go see a girl because we're too shy or back off from something because "It's crazy". Maybe those times it was a bad idea to restrain ourselves.
Most of the time we restrain ourselves for pretty good reasons too. Being able to restrain yourself to do some things you wouldn't want to do is a critical skill to have in life.
Sure everyone (given that you have money, a valid passport and a head on your shoulders) could say fuck it, no more restraints, leave for Alaska and be ~free~, ever heard of Christopher McCandleless ?
+ Show Spoiler +He abandoned his whole life, money, friends, everything and just lived. There is a movie about it called "Into the Wild" which is pretty mind blowing to be honest, you probably have seen it too as it concurs pretty much perfectly with your opinion (@OP)
I personally think that restraints, or barriers, is what makes humans what we are. There are a lot of barriers in life. They can be as simple as kissing for the first time, making love for the first time or even kill a man.
Now you may think those are complete different things, and yes of course they are, but are also similar in some ways.
Before making love for the first time (which is the closest for me, never killed a man yet), without getting too much into all the details, you limit yourself to thinking "oh boy am I gonna suck, I have no clue how to get it in (lol)" but you manage to just do it (which you refer as "Not limiting yourself") and get through this "negative barrier".
On the other side though, different barriers can lead you to dark places. If an individual truly doesn't limit itself, and only obeys itself and to no other being or moral guidelines (which would be total freedom theoretically (to be debated maybe)) that person could do terrible things.
+ Show Spoiler +There's a book on the last paragraph's concept by "Patrick Senecal - Aliss" which I believe was translated in English.
(tl;dr~)
In resume, I think limiting ourselves in some ways is essential for the well-being of the society. Too much freedom would lead to anarchy and too much "mind restraint" would lead to a 1984 type society.
People need to free themselves from being unable to think by/for themselves, but at the same time some every day restraints is what makes a society what it is, working as it work. If everyone wanted to do whatever the fuck the wanted, we probably wouldn't be sitting on our chair and casually discussing philosophy through a keyboard and a monitor.
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On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes.
All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean?
And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes.
The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though.
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On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes.
"Question everything" is not compatible with any of the others
"There are no absolutes" is incompatible with "All matter is equal"
"basic rules I personally live by" is incompatible with "think without limits"
Please don't refer us to Carl Rogers. Person-centered therapy isn't at all what you are suggesting.
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You keep telling us that there are no absolutes then making absolute statements about how to achieve happiness
And the reason I insulted GGTemplars on accident was because I mistook his post for a continuation of your retarded post history. His post was a satire of your post style and it was hard to tell because he got the "high 16 year old who thinks he's a philosophical genius because he posts sophomoric questions" thing down to a tee.
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On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though.
Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there?
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On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there?
It's actually not baffling scientists. We've developed a computer that's available on the market now that uses quantum processing. We understand quantum physics relatively well.
Your assumptions are all retarded.
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On January 20 2013 11:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. "Question everything" is not compatible with any of the others "There are no absolutes" is incompatible with "All matter is equal" "basic rules I personally live by" is incompatible with "think without limits" Please don't refer us to Carl Rogers. Person-centered therapy isn't at all what you are suggesting.
Lol this most egotistical thing I have seen in the thread. Carl Rogers had a huge impact on my life, who are you to say what I am trying and not trying to do?
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On January 20 2013 11:59 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. "Question everything" is not compatible with any of the others "There are no absolutes" is incompatible with "All matter is equal" "basic rules I personally live by" is incompatible with "think without limits" Please don't refer us to Carl Rogers. Person-centered therapy isn't at all what you are suggesting. Lol this most egotistical thing I have seen in the thread. Carl Rogers had a huge impact on my life, who are you to say what I am trying and not trying to do?
What I'm saying is that none of your points that you are making have ANYTHING to do with Carl Rogers.
Source: I'm getting my doctorate in clinical psychology.
The most egotistical thing in this thread is you, by the way, you just haven't seen it because your perception is from your own perspective.
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On January 20 2013 11:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? It's actually not baffling scientists. We've developed a computer that's available on the market now that uses quantum processing. We understand quantum physics relatively well. Your assumptions are all retarded.
If anyone says he can think about quantum physics without getting giddy, that only shows he doesn't understand the first thing about it- Niels Bohr
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On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there?
And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity?
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On January 20 2013 12:01 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? It's actually not baffling scientists. We've developed a computer that's available on the market now that uses quantum processing. We understand quantum physics relatively well. Your assumptions are all retarded. If anyone says he can think about quantum physics without getting giddy, that only shows he doesn't understand the first thing about it- Niels Bohr
Niels Bohr died in 1962. It's been half a century since then.
Stop quoting other people to make yourself look smart.
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On January 20 2013 12:02 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity?
Why is my level of understanding relevant? All I wish to do it promote independent thinking.
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On January 20 2013 12:03 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 12:02 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity? Why is my level of understanding relevant? All I wish to do it promote independent thinking.
All of us have independently come to the same conclusion: you are retarded or trolling.
I'm out of this thread, and I hope it gets closed.
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On January 20 2013 12:03 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 12:02 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity? Why is my level of understanding relevant? All I wish to do it promote independent thinking.
Because if you don't understand physics properly it is obvious where your incorrect perception of scientific reality has come from.
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Wow so much drama, kind of irrelevant to bash on the guy even though his OP is kind of all over the place
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But limits do have to exists, otherwise how are we going to define derivatives?
Unless you are talking about rational or integers, in which case limits and derivatives indeed do not exist.
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On January 20 2013 12:02 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity?
Quantum physics is one of the most rigorously tested theories that we have and it has passed every test. If anything, our models about the rest of reality must conform to it. It is very well understood but not at all intuitive.
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On January 20 2013 12:08 Solarsail wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 12:02 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity? Quantum physics is one of the most rigorously tested theories that we have and it has passed every test. If anything, our models about the rest of reality must conform to it. It is very well understood but not at all intuitive.
I know that, I was simply stating a possible explanation for why a theory would seem unpredictable. Hence why I ended my post asking him just how much he knows about physics.
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On January 20 2013 12:08 Solarsail wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 12:02 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity? Quantum physics is one of the most rigorously tested theories that we have and it has passed every test. If anything, our models about the rest of reality must conform to it. It is very well understood but not at all intuitive.
What does this mean? Are you using the word "models" deliberately, in that that which does not model correctly is the only thing that quantum physics is not to be applied to?
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Guys, I am afraid you are trolled by one of the best trolls I have seen in a while. Any more troll-ier, he will probably live under a bridge and eat little children.
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What the fuck did I just read? The darkside of metaphysics...
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On January 20 2013 12:17 Fus Ro Dah wrote:
Guys, I am afraid you are trolled by one of the best trolls I have seen in a while. Any more troll-ier, he will probably live under a bridge and eat little children.
I've seen better.
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On January 20 2013 12:08 Nemesis wrote:
But limits do have to exists, otherwise how are we going to define derivatives?
Unless you are talking about rational or integers, in which case limits and derivatives indeed do not exist.
Limits do exist to some and don't for others, it depends on the individual. We can use limits, such as with academic theories, what are the 3 assumptions made by those who support the big bang theory? I have another quote :D. The pessimistic complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjust the sails- William Arthur Ward, thoughts?
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5hit why you fighting bro
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Quantum theory does not magically stop working when you involve larger objects. It just becomes unfeasable to calculate stuff using it if you have to many states, thus you use other models if your problem becomes to complex, which simplify quantum effects to a mere statistic.
As a simple analogy, lets take a look at a gas. You can easily predict how one atom will behave in a vacuum (Well, you would probably need to use quantum theory to be reasonably accurate here, but for the moment lets assume it behaves completely newtonian). You can also predict how that atom behaves if it collides with another atom. Thus, you could try to predict the behaviour of a gas, which is composed of lots of single atoms colliding with each other, through that model. This would, however, be incredibly stupid, because you get absurdly large amounts of atoms, and their interaction with each other would make your equations unsolvable. But you can still describe how the gas acts, simply by using statistics to describe the whole mass of atoms instead of describing each atom on its own, which then leads to laws for ideal gases which are pretty simple.
This does not mean that the basic newtonian laws do not apply here, it just means that it is simpler to calculate the correct result using a different approach. The same is true for Quantum physics and its relation to classical physics. It is not that each only applies to a subset. Quantum physics applies to everything. But for a lot of problems, it is much simpler to use classical physics, and the result is accurate enough.
And a real problem regarding this stuff on the internet is that it is kind of a buzzword. A lot of peoples knowledge of the subject is basically "small stuff behaves weird and random", similar to how when they say "game theory" they actually mean the prisoners dilemma, and they still use it as if they knew what they are talking about. If all of your knowledge about a subject comes from it being used as a plot device in some sci-fi movie or novel by an autor whose profession is to write a good story, and who almost certainly also never studied physics, you probably should not assume that you know everything there is to know about a subject, and especially should not include it in your philosophical ideas as a proof, because that makes little sense if all you know about it is some weird abstract construct which has little to do with the actual subject.
On January 20 2013 12:12 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 12:08 Solarsail wrote:On January 20 2013 12:02 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity? Quantum physics is one of the most rigorously tested theories that we have and it has passed every test. If anything, our models about the rest of reality must conform to it. It is very well understood but not at all intuitive. What does this mean? Are you using the word "models" deliberately, in that that which does not model correctly is the only thing that quantum physics is not to be applied to?
Everything in science is a model. The goal of scientific research is to find a model which is as simple as possible and which describes reality with the necessary accuracy. And what he is saying is that a model for a case where you do not want to directly use quantum theories to calculate something should still produce the same results, and should especially not directly conflict with quantum theory. So, basically, you can usually interpret classical physics as models that use statistics to model a lot of quantum effects together, which is accurate enough because you have so many occurences of those effects that the statistical variance is neglectable.
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On January 20 2013 12:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 12:17 Fus Ro Dah wrote:
Guys, I am afraid you are trolled by one of the best trolls I have seen in a while. Any more troll-ier, he will probably live under a bridge and eat little children. I've seen better.
What did he do that was better?
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On January 20 2013 12:07 crbox wrote:
Wow so much drama, kind of irrelevant to bash on the guy even though his OP is kind of all over the place
Its not irrelevant to bash me to them however, you may see no relevance, but some people do think its relevant and only they are the ones that can tell us why its relevant.
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One quote I like is from Einstein. It says: "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
Basically, reality is subjective. You can make your own exceptions. Constants apply to every case except for when they don't.
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On January 20 2013 12:42 Spiffeh wrote:
One quote I like is from Einstein. It says: "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
Basically, reality is subjective. You can make your own exceptions. Constants apply to every case except for when they don't.
Oh shit never heard that before, thanks.
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On January 20 2013 12:37 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 12:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 12:17 Fus Ro Dah wrote:
Guys, I am afraid you are trolled by one of the best trolls I have seen in a while. Any more troll-ier, he will probably live under a bridge and eat little children. I've seen better. What did he do that was better?
Who said anything about specifics like gender or numbers? I just said I've seen better. I never implied it was just one person or that said one person was a male.
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But isn't saying there are no limits also a limitation? Therefore the best course of action is to limit our unlimitedness, would it not?
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On January 20 2013 12:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 12:37 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 12:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 12:17 Fus Ro Dah wrote:
Guys, I am afraid you are trolled by one of the best trolls I have seen in a while. Any more troll-ier, he will probably live under a bridge and eat little children. I've seen better. What did he do that was better? Who said anything about specifics like gender or numbers? I just said I've seen better. I never implied it was just one person or that said one person was a male.
Haha that was a great explanation.
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On January 20 2013 12:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 12:01 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? It's actually not baffling scientists. We've developed a computer that's available on the market now that uses quantum processing. We understand quantum physics relatively well. Your assumptions are all retarded. If anyone says he can think about quantum physics without getting giddy, that only shows he doesn't understand the first thing about it- Niels Bohr Niels Bohr died in 1962. It's been half a century since then. Stop quoting other people to make yourself look smart.
Also, wasn't that Feynmann?
BTW, there's no duality between quantum/non quantum. It's just that our maths isn't good enough yet to simulate relativity stuff with quantum mechanics yet. Stuff doesn't magically decide to not be quantum once enough of them gather together, classical mechanics are a result of probability theory founded on quantum.
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I have another question, what is empathy? Is it a universal trait?
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If our brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn´t.
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On January 20 2013 13:12 DaCruise wrote:
If our brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn´t.
I like this, I like this alot.
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On January 20 2013 13:14 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 13:12 DaCruise wrote:
If our brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn´t. I like this, I like this alot.
Taken from Civ 5 and the developers obviously got it from somewhere else.
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On January 20 2013 13:15 DaCruise wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 13:14 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 13:12 DaCruise wrote:
If our brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn´t. I like this, I like this alot. Taken from Civ 5 and the developers obviously got it from somewhere else.
I have a question, is the original source of information relevant? When I first saw that I assumed it was your original statement, and it in fact is. You are using it in a new environment and putting it into the world for others to learn from and putting your own unique perspective/influence in the way you communicate it, thank you.
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On January 20 2013 12:12 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 12:08 Solarsail wrote:On January 20 2013 12:02 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity? Quantum physics is one of the most rigorously tested theories that we have and it has passed every test. If anything, our models about the rest of reality must conform to it. It is very well understood but not at all intuitive. What does this mean? Are you using the word "models" deliberately, in that that which does not model correctly is the only thing that quantum physics is not to be applied to?
As in, general relativity is a model that makes good predictions right now. But, we know it's not compatible with quantum mechanics. Therefore it is wrong.
Or, string theory. To be viable it must predict absolutely everything quantum mechanics does right now. If it cannot then it should be discarded.
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On January 20 2013 13:23 Solarsail wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 12:12 farvacola wrote:On January 20 2013 12:08 Solarsail wrote:On January 20 2013 12:02 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity? Quantum physics is one of the most rigorously tested theories that we have and it has passed every test. If anything, our models about the rest of reality must conform to it. It is very well understood but not at all intuitive. What does this mean? Are you using the word "models" deliberately, in that that which does not model correctly is the only thing that quantum physics is not to be applied to? As in, general relativity is a model that makes good predictions right now. But, we know it's not compatible with quantum mechanics. Therefore it is wrong. Or, string theory. To be viable it must predict absolutely everything quantum mechanics does right now. If it cannot then it should be discarded.
I feel like you really get what I'm saying, thanks for speaking your mind. Everyone is always in the search of a unifying theory, is searching for it itself limiting the search?
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On January 20 2013 13:19 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 13:15 DaCruise wrote:On January 20 2013 13:14 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 13:12 DaCruise wrote:
If our brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn´t. I like this, I like this alot. Taken from Civ 5 and the developers obviously got it from somewhere else. I have a question, is the original source of information relevant? When I first saw that I assumed it was your original statement, and it in fact is. You are using it in a new environment and putting it into the world for others to learn from and putting your own unique perspective/influence in the way you communicate it, thank you.
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I read the first bit about matter being equal and the part of me that enjoys physics was disappointed.
So called 'limits' are absolutely necessary to have rational thought and discussion. Everything, over time, dissolves into disorder. Thoughts are no exception to this. Words, definitions of words, etc. are used to define and organize thought that would otherwise be disordered and useless to progress. Sure, sometimes thinking of random crap and digging deeper and deeper into, constantly asking "why?" to each thought over and over, can be somewhat enjoyable, but it's mostly useless. I've never taken hallucinogenic drugs, ever, but I would imagine the sensation one would get from using such substances is similar to "free flowing limitless thought."
On January 20 2013 13:12 ECHOZs wrote:
I have another question, what is empathy? Is it a universal trait?
All humans, around the world, have been shown to have empathy. Empathy, as in the ability to mirror the perceived emotional state of someone, or in some cases, something else. Sociopaths and young children do not exhibit empathy. Some animals, elephants for one, have shown to exhibit empathy as well.
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On January 20 2013 13:23 Solarsail wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 12:12 farvacola wrote:On January 20 2013 12:08 Solarsail wrote:On January 20 2013 12:02 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity? Quantum physics is one of the most rigorously tested theories that we have and it has passed every test. If anything, our models about the rest of reality must conform to it. It is very well understood but not at all intuitive. What does this mean? Are you using the word "models" deliberately, in that that which does not model correctly is the only thing that quantum physics is not to be applied to? As in, general relativity is a model that makes good predictions right now. But, we know it's not compatible with quantum mechanics. Therefore it is wrong. Or, string theory. To be viable it must predict absolutely everything quantum mechanics does right now. If it cannot then it should be discarded.
You do realize scientists are trying to reconcile quantum so that it works with relativity right? Because at the moment we do not have a fully developed theory of quantum gravity that is as accurate as relativity. I think you are ignoring the possibility that they could both be partially wrong.
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On January 20 2013 13:37 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 13:23 Solarsail wrote:On January 20 2013 12:12 farvacola wrote:On January 20 2013 12:08 Solarsail wrote:On January 20 2013 12:02 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity? Quantum physics is one of the most rigorously tested theories that we have and it has passed every test. If anything, our models about the rest of reality must conform to it. It is very well understood but not at all intuitive. What does this mean? Are you using the word "models" deliberately, in that that which does not model correctly is the only thing that quantum physics is not to be applied to? As in, general relativity is a model that makes good predictions right now. But, we know it's not compatible with quantum mechanics. Therefore it is wrong. Or, string theory. To be viable it must predict absolutely everything quantum mechanics does right now. If it cannot then it should be discarded. You do realize scientists are trying to reconcile quantum so that it works with relativity right? Because at the moment we do not have a fully developed theory of quantum gravity that is as accurate as relativity. I think you are ignoring the possibility that they could both be partially wrong.
Out of the two, General Relativity is more likely to be incorrect. Measurements supporting quantum mechanics are more precise and easier to make than Relativity. But you're completely right that either could be wrong or at most, both could be.
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On January 20 2013 13:40 Kishin2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 13:37 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 13:23 Solarsail wrote:On January 20 2013 12:12 farvacola wrote:On January 20 2013 12:08 Solarsail wrote:On January 20 2013 12:02 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:57 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:47 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On January 20 2013 11:33 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
So I don't really understand the OP and I'm not sure if he was serious. Where is an organized explanation for "limit theory"? Organized explanation? Limit theory makes perfect sense and no sense. Why do you want something organized? People think I got this from somewhere. I am only telling people my perception of reality, I am completely opened to new experience and that is how you can advance your happiness. I also see people saying use self-reflection and I am to my full extent if you wish to try and help just be as specific as you possibly can. If you want to find out more look up solution focused therapy and Carl Rogers. But wait me limiting myself to you is unethical? The basic rules I personally live by are All matter is equal Question everything There are no absolutes Think without limits This in itself is a structure, and that is what makes structures useful, its a way to help express yourself, to organize. Remember there are no absolutes. All matter is equal, what is that supposed to mean? And I am quite sure most of science would tell you there are plenty of absolutes. The Questioning and constant thinking principles sound good though. Lets look at Quantum physics and General relativity. Quantum physics is baffling scientist because its unpredictable. But when matter works together and limits itself to groups the universe makes sense. Why? Are they setting limits on themselves? That's why I think all matter is equal, it is all from a source, but what is that source and how many sources are there? And maybe quantum is wrong and is not the right way to unify relativity with the standard model. Just because it is being developed now though doesn't mean quantum could not become much more predictable once it is further refined. Your theory on the other hand has no empirical basis. What level is your understanding of physics at out of curiosity? Quantum physics is one of the most rigorously tested theories that we have and it has passed every test. If anything, our models about the rest of reality must conform to it. It is very well understood but not at all intuitive. What does this mean? Are you using the word "models" deliberately, in that that which does not model correctly is the only thing that quantum physics is not to be applied to? As in, general relativity is a model that makes good predictions right now. But, we know it's not compatible with quantum mechanics. Therefore it is wrong. Or, string theory. To be viable it must predict absolutely everything quantum mechanics does right now. If it cannot then it should be discarded. You do realize scientists are trying to reconcile quantum so that it works with relativity right? Because at the moment we do not have a fully developed theory of quantum gravity that is as accurate as relativity. I think you are ignoring the possibility that they could both be partially wrong. Out of the two, General Relativity is more likely to be incorrect. Measurements supporting quantum mechanics are more precise and easier to make than Relativity. But you're completely right that either could be wrong or at most, both could be.
I am aware, I am just annoyed by people who worship quantum like its something divine and infallible, and anything that we cannot currently get to fit in with it must be wrong.
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On January 20 2013 13:32 Kishin2 wrote:I read the first bit about matter being equal and the part of me that enjoys physics was disappointed. So called 'limits' are absolutely necessary to have rational thought and discussion. Everything, over time, dissolves into disorder. Thoughts are no exception to this. Words, definitions of words, etc. are used to define and organize thought that would otherwise be disordered and useless to progress. Sure, sometimes thinking of random crap and digging deeper and deeper into, constantly asking "why?" to each thought over and over, can be somewhat enjoyable, but it's mostly useless. I've never taken hallucinogenic drugs, ever, but I would imagine the sensation one would get from using such substances is similar to "free flowing limitless thought." Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 13:12 ECHOZs wrote:
I have another question, what is empathy? Is it a universal trait? All humans, around the world, have been shown to have empathy. Empathy, as in the ability to mirror the perceived emotional state of someone, or in some cases, something else. Sociopaths and young children do not exhibit empathy. Some animals, elephants for one, have shown to exhibit empathy as well.
Great post, you helped me alot with this one. I am going to describe my current perception of reality now, I do that, as you probably see by reading the thread, rather haphazardly, why do I do it? I have a rational explanation for everything, why, its because I'm being as honest, genuine, and as real I can with myself, I am improvising, not thinking about what to say but simply saying what I feel. "Fuck the world" many people say they live this way but really they are being limited. Now I'm going to randomly name off people who I perceive as genuine, you will know who some of them, but no all, why? Because no one has experienced what I personally have experianced. I guess I'll try to use some alot of you may be familar as aswell, cough no limits cough. Here goes, Incontrol, 2gd, jp, sase, nani, idra, juan cole, noam chomsky, normin finkelstein, amy goodman, JOHN ZORN. I just ask everyone to improvise I learned how from John Zorn.
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What the hell is this bullcrap?
This looks like something a senior philosophy student in my class would write - plain absolute gibberish.
I don't think you have the basic idea what theorizing or existence or essence means.
Read more, the world is far bigger than you think.
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On January 20 2013 13:50 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
What the hell is this bullcrap?
This looks like something a senior philosophy student in my class would write - plain absolute gibberish.
I don't think you have the basic idea what theorizing or existence or essence means.
Read more, the world is far bigger than you think.
Your philosophy department isn't doing its job if it's this bad at the senior level.
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On January 20 2013 13:19 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 13:15 DaCruise wrote:On January 20 2013 13:14 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 13:12 DaCruise wrote:
If our brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn´t. I like this, I like this alot. Taken from Civ 5 and the developers obviously got it from somewhere else. I have a question, is the original source of information relevant? When I first saw that I assumed it was your original statement, and it in fact is. You are using it in a new environment and putting it into the world for others to learn from and putting your own unique perspective/influence in the way you communicate it, thank you.
Please somebody shoot me.
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On January 20 2013 13:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 13:50 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
What the hell is this bullcrap?
This looks like something a senior philosophy student in my class would write - plain absolute gibberish.
I don't think you have the basic idea what theorizing or existence or essence means.
Read more, the world is far bigger than you think. Your philosophy department isn't doing its job if that is the case.
The irony is astounding considering his user name lol.
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John Zorn is the best, last time I was tripping on mushrooms there was this Painkiller track that came up and the saxophone was like a nova in my brain. epic
On January 20 2013 13:01 Ianuus wrote:
classical mechanics are a result of probability theory founded on quantum.
Ah, yes, Newton developed classical mechanics by applying probability theory to quantum mechanics in order to more efficiently calculate the motion of large objects. Finally I understand how science works.
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Belgium6773 Posts
Ok here goes:
All matter is energy. Before the big bang, all energy was a singular, perfect, homogenous entity. It then 'exploded' to create space/time. Deconstruction and reconstruction (by forces etc) changes combinations of the resulting matter through time, which in turn lets consciousness emerge from evolved systems. (skipped some steps here) This consciousness is then able to reflect upon different levels of reality.
Therefore: the universe is the attempt of energy trying to understand itself, through a fractal-like, genetic matrix.
The real catch is: all of this is just an idea, passed through an abstracted image formed by culture.
Meaning that everything is inside your head.
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On January 20 2013 13:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 13:19 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 13:15 DaCruise wrote:On January 20 2013 13:14 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 13:12 DaCruise wrote:
If our brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn´t. I like this, I like this alot. Taken from Civ 5 and the developers obviously got it from somewhere else. I have a question, is the original source of information relevant? When I first saw that I assumed it was your original statement, and it in fact is. You are using it in a new environment and putting it into the world for others to learn from and putting your own unique perspective/influence in the way you communicate it, thank you. Please somebody shoot me.
You bring up an interesting topic, death. What is death? If all matter is created equally what does that say of our perception of consciousnesses? Is death real? Or does all matter simply have some sense of Independence, ego, or individuality? Is this the driving force of evolution? Holy shit these are great questions thank you!!
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No, no, what you said means that you're inside everything's head.
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On January 20 2013 13:56 Xeofreestyler wrote:
Ok here goes:
All matter is energy. Before the big bang, all energy was a singular, perfect, homogenous entity. It then 'exploded' to create space/time. Deconstruction and reconstruction (by forces etc) changes combinations of the resulting matter through time, which in turn lets consciousness emerge from evolved systems. (skipped some steps here) This consciousness is then able to reflect upon different levels of reality.
Therefore: the universe is the attempt of energy trying to understand itself, through a fractal-like, genetic matrix.
The real catch is: all of this is just an idea, passed through an abstracted image formed by culture.
Meaning that everything is inside your head.
Holy shit man, this is amazing, I am so pumped right now its insane.
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Just wait until he discovers hegel...
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On January 20 2013 13:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Just wait until he discovers hegel...
hegel......Go on
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What kind of existentialist bs is this. I thought these theories of philosophy were discarded a while ago as they didn't lead to any form of real argument and were just self-fulfilling, self-serving prophecies about how nothing has limits or how no one really controls anything.
EDIT: this was a bit harsh, though I can see that other people are reacting like I did, I just feel like the reasons to not believe this sort of thing (despite how alluring it is) show how existentialism really does beg the question much more than a lot of people realize. I feel like this is a sort of naive way of looking at life from a view of absolutes.
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On January 20 2013 13:59 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 13:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Just wait until he discovers hegel... hegel......Go on
you're gonna love hegel. I don't want to give you any spoilers
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On January 20 2013 14:00 docvoc wrote:
What kind of existentialist bs is this. I thought these theories of philosophy were discarded a while ago as they didn't lead to any form of real argument and were just self-fulfilling, self-serving prophecies about how nothing has limits or how no one really controls anything.
Look at these words and question why and how your were influenced and by what. Now take your own personal understandings of these words and apply them to anything. Anarchy, Democracy, socialism, do you see a connection?
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On January 20 2013 14:01 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 13:59 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 13:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Just wait until he discovers hegel... hegel......Go on you're gonna love hegel. I don't want to give you any spoilers
Lol you bastard, you are limiting me, but at the same time its raises my anticipation to read it. Are there such things as absolutes?
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After a review of this thread... you sir ECHOZs have put great effort to troll, for that I commend you. Please tell me the rest of your aliases or theories so I may indulge in the reactions of the people who actually try to comprehend your logic. It may even be that you're the messenger of God, oh my you may even be beyond that for you are so unlimited in the UTTER BULLSHIT your deliver. Well played, well played you should try to be a journalist instead, make money out of people raging at your mumble. We need people like you, people to pave the way to negative human progress, only then will we be consistently reminded which way is wrong and which is right. For that, I thank you.
Side note: Man imagine getting high with this guy, he'll never stop talking
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On January 20 2013 14:05 sukarestu wrote:
After a review of this thread... you sir ECHOZs have put great effort to troll, for that I commend you. Please tell me the rest of your aliases or theories so I may indulge in the reactions of the people who actually try to comprehend your logic. It may even be that you're the messenger of God, oh my you may even be beyond that for you are so unlimited in the UTTER BULLSHIT your deliver. Well played, well played you should try to be a journalist instead, make money out of people raging at your mumble. We need people like you, people to pave the way to negative human progress, only then will we be consistently reminded which way is wrong and which is right. For that, I thank you.
Lol through out this whole thread I didn't even think of giving out my twitter for people, thanks. https://twitter.com/Echozss
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On January 20 2013 14:04 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:01 sam!zdat wrote:On January 20 2013 13:59 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 13:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Just wait until he discovers hegel... hegel......Go on you're gonna love hegel. I don't want to give you any spoilers Are there such things as absolutes?
The Absolute is not a Thing. At least I don't think so.
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This is interesting. By saying there are no limits, one would be limiting themselves to that statement. There are no absolutes goes the same way. Everything is relative? Not the previous statement. It's a simple logical paradox that will just go round and round in circles.
In reality, it's impossible to break a limit without limiting yourself, resign all absolutes without creating one.
Then of course I'm limiting myself with this opinion, but there is no way around it.
So, most philosophers have adapted a slightly different statement "There is but one absolute: there are no absolutes".
But then again it's the same thing, so who cares?
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What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about.
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On January 20 2013 14:07 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:04 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:01 sam!zdat wrote:On January 20 2013 13:59 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 13:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Just wait until he discovers hegel... hegel......Go on you're gonna love hegel. I don't want to give you any spoilers Are there such things as absolutes? The Absolute is not a Thing. At least I don't think so.
Exactly, that is how I see it. It depends on every individual, every piece of matter, every thing is independent, but it is also self reliant. What are differences between individuals and groups?
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On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
I read all 9 pages twice \
Why the fuck would you do that.
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God created the universe and our reality. I know god exists for a fact.
That said there are some things in our universe that function in a certain way.
For example size and distance are not real. You could go trillionths of a milimetar small and there wouldn't be an end. Distance is also not real, its just limited right now at how you can travel on the space.
There is also a possibility there to be other universes and realities that all play out.
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On January 20 2013 14:08 GhostLink wrote:
This is interesting. By saying there are no limits, one would be limiting themselves to that statement. There are no absolutes goes the same way. Everything is relative? Not the previous statement. It's a simple logical paradox that will just go round and round in circles.
In reality, it's impossible to break a limit without limiting yourself, resign all absolutes without creating one.
Then of course I'm limiting myself with this opinion, but there is no way around it.
So, most philosophers have adapted a slightly different statement "There is but one absolute: there are no absolutes".
But then again it's the same thing, so who cares?
lol that was great, thanks for posting.
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On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about.
It has no topic, think of it as a thread to improvise your freedom of thought. Think with your instinct.
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This thread has changed my life
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On January 20 2013 14:12 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about. It has no topic, think of it as a thread to improvise your freedom of thought. Think with your instinct.
In other words, go Stevie Wonder style and figure out what you really think.
Edit: And yes, that includes the head bobbing and shades.
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On January 20 2013 14:13 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:12 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about. It has no topic, think of it as a thread to improvise your freedom of thought. Think with your instinct. In other words, go Stevie Wonder style and figure out what you really think. Edit: And yes, that includes the head bobbing and shades.
Haha yes, the most important thing imo is being honest and genuine. When you are honest and do what you love you don't need to remember anything.
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On January 20 2013 14:13 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
This thread has changed my life
Its changed mine 6 days ago, welcome to the club, but remember not to limit yourself :D
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On January 20 2013 14:10 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:07 sam!zdat wrote:On January 20 2013 14:04 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:01 sam!zdat wrote:On January 20 2013 13:59 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 13:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Just wait until he discovers hegel... hegel......Go on you're gonna love hegel. I don't want to give you any spoilers Are there such things as absolutes? The Absolute is not a Thing. At least I don't think so. Exactly, that is how I see it. It depends on every individual, every piece of matter, every thing is independent, but it is also self reliant.
Hmm, well I was reading about this today but I didn't really understand it. It's like, the Thing is in-itself, but it is also for-itself, but the for-itself is reflected back into the in-itself. Or something. No clue, to be honest.
What are differences between individuals and groups?
good question
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Now since some people are starting to see things from a new perspective shall the real fun begin?
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On January 20 2013 14:00 docvoc wrote:
What kind of existentialist bs is this. I thought these theories of philosophy were discarded a while ago as they didn't lead to any form of real argument and were just self-fulfilling, self-serving prophecies about how nothing has limits or how no one really controls anything.
This isn't existentialism and existentialism isn't gibberish. Further, existentialism still has limits. Existentialism argues at the core that existence precedes essence (which goes contrary to most of the rest of the history of philosophy which assumes otherwise).
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I, on the other hand, argue that precedence essentially exists!
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On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about.
It's old-school trolling. The modern style is to try to get a reaction by randomly insulting people. It's extremely effective but unfortunately gets shut down too fast by mods.
The classical style is to post something that's mostly, but not completely gibberish while engaging in conversations where your partner is never quite certain if you're being serious or not.
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Facilitate don't dictate, what do you think this means?
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On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about.
That's because the majority of this thread makes no sense at all and is just a heap of pseudo-intellectual rubbish.
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On January 20 2013 14:23 hypercube wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about. It's old-school trolling. The modern style is to try to get a reaction by randomly insulting people. It's extremely effective but unfortunately gets shut down too fast by mods. The classical style is to post something that's mostly, but not completely gibberish while engaging in conversations where your partner is never quite certain if you're being serious or not.
You are limiting yourself lol. What does it matter if I'm serious or not? Read the thread and analyze my posts and you will find a complete pattern of consistency.
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On January 20 2013 14:23 hypercube wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about. It's old-school trolling. The modern style is to try to get a reaction by randomly insulting people. It's extremely effective but unfortunately gets shut down too fast by mods. The classical style is to post something that's mostly, but not completely gibberish while engaging in conversations where your partner is never quite certain if you're being serious or not.
Well-said and well-spotted, living up to your name good sir hahaha :D
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On January 20 2013 14:23 hypercube wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about. It's old-school trolling. The modern style is to try to get a reaction by randomly insulting people. It's extremely effective but unfortunately gets shut down too fast by mods. The classical style is to post something that's mostly, but not completely gibberish while engaging in conversations where your partner is never quite certain if you're being serious or not.
You're just not thinking outside the box, man
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On January 20 2013 14:27 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:23 hypercube wrote:On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about. It's old-school trolling. The modern style is to try to get a reaction by randomly insulting people. It's extremely effective but unfortunately gets shut down too fast by mods. The classical style is to post something that's mostly, but not completely gibberish while engaging in conversations where your partner is never quite certain if you're being serious or not. You're just not thinking outside the box, man
Exactly, to truly see outside the box you must look inside.
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On January 20 2013 14:29 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:27 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 20 2013 14:23 hypercube wrote:On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about. It's old-school trolling. The modern style is to try to get a reaction by randomly insulting people. It's extremely effective but unfortunately gets shut down too fast by mods. The classical style is to post something that's mostly, but not completely gibberish while engaging in conversations where your partner is never quite certain if you're being serious or not. You're just not thinking outside the box, man Exactly, to truly see outside the box you must look inside.
LOL
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On January 20 2013 14:26 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:23 hypercube wrote:On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about. It's old-school trolling. The modern style is to try to get a reaction by randomly insulting people. It's extremely effective but unfortunately gets shut down too fast by mods. The classical style is to post something that's mostly, but not completely gibberish while engaging in conversations where your partner is never quite certain if you're being serious or not. Read the thread and analyze my posts and you will find a complete pattern of consistency.
It's true.
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I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq.
I CAN DUNK ON SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope didn't work. t.t
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On January 20 2013 14:33 tokinho wrote:
I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq.
I CAN DUNK ON SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope didn't work. t.t
But everytime you tried it would be a unique experience that no one has ever felt, had, thought and it will never happen again.
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On January 20 2013 14:34 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:33 tokinho wrote:
I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq.
I CAN DUNK ON SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope didn't work. t.t But everytime you tried it would be a unique experience that no one has ever felt, had, thought and it will never happen again.
That's not true if the universe is infinite in either time or space.
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On January 20 2013 14:30 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:29 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:27 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 20 2013 14:23 hypercube wrote:On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about. It's old-school trolling. The modern style is to try to get a reaction by randomly insulting people. It's extremely effective but unfortunately gets shut down too fast by mods. The classical style is to post something that's mostly, but not completely gibberish while engaging in conversations where your partner is never quite certain if you're being serious or not. You're just not thinking outside the box, man Exactly, to truly see outside the box you must look inside. LOL
lol... so they still have the "TL post of the year" award right?
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On January 20 2013 14:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:34 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:33 tokinho wrote:
I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq.
I CAN DUNK ON SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope didn't work. t.t But everytime you tried it would be a unique experience that no one has ever felt, had, thought and it will never happen again. That's not true if the universe is infinite in either time or space.
Thank you for bringing up time I was meaning to. With this thought process is time real or relevant? Is age relevant? If you heard everything I said so far from a 5 year old, what would you think?
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On January 20 2013 14:37 Tor wrote:
Why think at all?
You don't have to think.
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On January 20 2013 14:37 Tor wrote:
Why think at all?
You have shaken my entire perception of reality
Why think at all indeed? We need a new thread for this concept.
On January 20 2013 14:39 ECHOZs wrote:You don't have to think.
Whew, that's a relief :D
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Just think without limits?
It might be time to start feeling without limits!
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On January 20 2013 14:39 MountainDewJunkie wrote:You have shaken my entire perception of reality Why think at all indeed? We need a new thread for this concept. Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:39 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:37 Tor wrote:
Why think at all?
You don't have to think. Whew, that's a relief :D
LOL that cracked me up, why? Because I felt you were being honest and genuine, thank you.
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On January 20 2013 14:40 Tor wrote:
Just think without limits?
It might be time to start feeling without limits!
I feel that feeling without limits leaves to having antisocial personality disorder aka a psychopath. Why do I think that?
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But feelings themselves are limited. So don't trust your feelings.
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On January 20 2013 14:10 sam!zdat wrote:Why the fuck would you do that.
Can't connect to iCCup/Fish :/
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On January 20 2013 14:38 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:34 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:33 tokinho wrote:
I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq.
I CAN DUNK ON SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope didn't work. t.t But everytime you tried it would be a unique experience that no one has ever felt, had, thought and it will never happen again. That's not true if the universe is infinite in either time or space. Thank you for bringing up time I was meaning to. With this thought process is time real or relevant? Is age relevant? If you heard everything I said so far from a 5 year old, what would you think?
Are time and age relevant to what?
I don't know what I would think if I heard everything you said from a 5 year old.
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Oh yeah guys I guess I'll tell you an Idea I have. The largest database of human knowledge ever assembled. The city of Alexandria used to be call the culture center of the world. A city itself is so limiting, but now we have the internet, is the internet its own universe? Either way its a place to store data and information, thoughts?
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
I think that thinking that you can think without limits is the most limiting thing one can think of. Think.
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On January 20 2013 14:47 ECHOZs wrote:
Oh yeah guys I guess I'll tell you an Idea I have. The largest database of human knowledge ever assembled. The city of Alexandria used to be call the culture center of the world. A city itself is so limiting, but now we have the internet, is the internet its own universe? Either way its a place to store data and information, thoughts?
Not abstract enough of a topic. BOO! 
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On January 20 2013 14:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:38 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:34 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:33 tokinho wrote:
I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq.
I CAN DUNK ON SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope didn't work. t.t But everytime you tried it would be a unique experience that no one has ever felt, had, thought and it will never happen again. That's not true if the universe is infinite in either time or space. Thank you for bringing up time I was meaning to. With this thought process is time real or relevant? Is age relevant? If you heard everything I said so far from a 5 year old, what would you think? Are time and age relevant to what? I don't know what I would think if I heard everything you said from a 5 year old.
Are they relevant to an individuals perception of reality?
I don't know is a limit. You do know, but you are limiting yourself from speaking freely. Why?
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
Rating this thread a solid 6 out of 10 failsafes
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On January 20 2013 14:48 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:47 ECHOZs wrote:
Oh yeah guys I guess I'll tell you an Idea I have. The largest database of human knowledge ever assembled. The city of Alexandria used to be call the culture center of the world. A city itself is so limiting, but now we have the internet, is the internet its own universe? Either way its a place to store data and information, thoughts? Not abstract enough of a topic. BOO!
I find the location to be irrelevant. You now know of the information and can spread if you wish, or keep it to yourself, getting it into the world is simply one of my priorities :D.
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On January 20 2013 14:47 ECHOZs wrote:
Oh yeah guys I guess I'll tell you an Idea I have. The largest database of human knowledge ever assembled. The city of Alexandria used to be call the culture center of the world. A city itself is so limiting, but now we have the internet, is the internet its own universe? Either way its a place to store data and information, thoughts?
You're quite right about the internet being a place to store data and information.
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On January 20 2013 14:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:47 ECHOZs wrote:
Oh yeah guys I guess I'll tell you an Idea I have. The largest database of human knowledge ever assembled. The city of Alexandria used to be call the culture center of the world. A city itself is so limiting, but now we have the internet, is the internet its own universe? Either way its a place to store data and information, thoughts? You're quite right about the internet being a place to store data and information.
Yeah I mean, we can manipulate anything, if there are no limits could we recode matter itself? Anyone ever see full metal alchemist?
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On January 20 2013 14:49 419 wrote:
Rating this thread a solid 6 out of 10 failsafes
What could I have done to get a 10?
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Oh yeah, im from the mental health field as stated earlier. Is mental health simply someone not adapting to their environment and conflicting with it?
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On January 20 2013 14:48 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:38 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:34 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:33 tokinho wrote:
I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq.
I CAN DUNK ON SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope didn't work. t.t But everytime you tried it would be a unique experience that no one has ever felt, had, thought and it will never happen again. That's not true if the universe is infinite in either time or space. Thank you for bringing up time I was meaning to. With this thought process is time real or relevant? Is age relevant? If you heard everything I said so far from a 5 year old, what would you think? Are time and age relevant to what? I don't know what I would think if I heard everything you said from a 5 year old. Are they relevant to an individuals perception of reality? I don't know is a limit. You do know, but you are limiting yourself from speaking freely. Why?
They are the very structures through which our perception as we know it is made possible, so I would say they are entirely relevant.
In what way is "I don't know" a limit? I can only guess and predict as to how I would react, but it isn't possible to know the future. You are limiting yourself in assuming you know that someone else knows something they don't.
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On January 20 2013 14:51 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:47 ECHOZs wrote:
Oh yeah guys I guess I'll tell you an Idea I have. The largest database of human knowledge ever assembled. The city of Alexandria used to be call the culture center of the world. A city itself is so limiting, but now we have the internet, is the internet its own universe? Either way its a place to store data and information, thoughts? You're quite right about the internet being a place to store data and information. Yeah I mean, we can manipulate anything, if there are no limits could we recode matter itself? Anyone ever see full metal alchemist?
The better question is could we recode into matter itself a limit if there are no limits?
Actually, can you specifically create a limit on yourself that limits you from creating limits on yourself?
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On January 20 2013 14:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:38 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:34 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:33 tokinho wrote:
I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq.
I CAN DUNK ON SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope didn't work. t.t But everytime you tried it would be a unique experience that no one has ever felt, had, thought and it will never happen again. That's not true if the universe is infinite in either time or space. Thank you for bringing up time I was meaning to. With this thought process is time real or relevant? Is age relevant? If you heard everything I said so far from a 5 year old, what would you think? Are time and age relevant to what? I don't know what I would think if I heard everything you said from a 5 year old. Are they relevant to an individuals perception of reality? I don't know is a limit. You do know, but you are limiting yourself from speaking freely. Why? They are the very structures through which our perception as we know it is made possible, so I would say they are entirely relevant. In what way is "I don't know" a limit? I can only guess and predict as to how I would react, but it isn't possible to know the future. You are limiting yourself in assuming you know that someone else knows something they don't.
Great post. Everything is relevant and irrelevant at the same time because there are no limits and no absolutes.
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On January 20 2013 14:57 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:51 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:47 ECHOZs wrote:
Oh yeah guys I guess I'll tell you an Idea I have. The largest database of human knowledge ever assembled. The city of Alexandria used to be call the culture center of the world. A city itself is so limiting, but now we have the internet, is the internet its own universe? Either way its a place to store data and information, thoughts? You're quite right about the internet being a place to store data and information. Yeah I mean, we can manipulate anything, if there are no limits could we recode matter itself? Anyone ever see full metal alchemist? The better question is could we recode into matter itself a limit if there are no limits?
Oh shit.....
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OP is slipping
man down
Man down
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On January 20 2013 14:58 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:38 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:34 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:33 tokinho wrote:
I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq.
I CAN DUNK ON SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope didn't work. t.t But everytime you tried it would be a unique experience that no one has ever felt, had, thought and it will never happen again. That's not true if the universe is infinite in either time or space. Thank you for bringing up time I was meaning to. With this thought process is time real or relevant? Is age relevant? If you heard everything I said so far from a 5 year old, what would you think? Are time and age relevant to what? I don't know what I would think if I heard everything you said from a 5 year old. Are they relevant to an individuals perception of reality? I don't know is a limit. You do know, but you are limiting yourself from speaking freely. Why? They are the very structures through which our perception as we know it is made possible, so I would say they are entirely relevant. In what way is "I don't know" a limit? I can only guess and predict as to how I would react, but it isn't possible to know the future. You are limiting yourself in assuming you know that someone else knows something they don't. Great post. Everything is relevant and irrelevant at the same time because there are no limits and no absolutes.
Are there really no limits or absolutes? Would you then say you are limited in your inability to create an absolute or a limit?
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On January 20 2013 14:58 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
OP is slipping
man down
Man down
There is no such thing as slipping, unless you perceive it. I have been blowing my mind every post so far and all of you have helped, thanks :D. I think one of the most important things is simply being aware that you are surrounded by limits in a group aspect, but the individual is not limited strictly to the group beliefs.
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On January 20 2013 14:59 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:58 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:38 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:34 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:33 tokinho wrote:
I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq.
I CAN DUNK ON SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope didn't work. t.t But everytime you tried it would be a unique experience that no one has ever felt, had, thought and it will never happen again. That's not true if the universe is infinite in either time or space. Thank you for bringing up time I was meaning to. With this thought process is time real or relevant? Is age relevant? If you heard everything I said so far from a 5 year old, what would you think? Are time and age relevant to what? I don't know what I would think if I heard everything you said from a 5 year old. Are they relevant to an individuals perception of reality? I don't know is a limit. You do know, but you are limiting yourself from speaking freely. Why? They are the very structures through which our perception as we know it is made possible, so I would say they are entirely relevant. In what way is "I don't know" a limit? I can only guess and predict as to how I would react, but it isn't possible to know the future. You are limiting yourself in assuming you know that someone else knows something they don't. Great post. Everything is relevant and irrelevant at the same time because there are no limits and no absolutes. Are there really no limits or absolutes? Would you then say you are limited in your inability to create an absolute or a limit?
Yes. Why? We are limited? By what? By our own reality. What are is the difference between human words and communication between animals? Nothing? I think matter itself has some natural code or program given limits by some source. Matter has a mind of its own. What makes humans different than plants, animals, or the keyboard we are typing on?
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You should try a pillow fort...trust me. You think your mind has been blown right now? You ain't seen nothin' yet, brother.
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On January 20 2013 15:05 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 14:59 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:58 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:38 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:34 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:33 tokinho wrote:
I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq. I cannot dunk on shaq.
I CAN DUNK ON SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope didn't work. t.t But everytime you tried it would be a unique experience that no one has ever felt, had, thought and it will never happen again. That's not true if the universe is infinite in either time or space. Thank you for bringing up time I was meaning to. With this thought process is time real or relevant? Is age relevant? If you heard everything I said so far from a 5 year old, what would you think? Are time and age relevant to what? I don't know what I would think if I heard everything you said from a 5 year old. Are they relevant to an individuals perception of reality? I don't know is a limit. You do know, but you are limiting yourself from speaking freely. Why? They are the very structures through which our perception as we know it is made possible, so I would say they are entirely relevant. In what way is "I don't know" a limit? I can only guess and predict as to how I would react, but it isn't possible to know the future. You are limiting yourself in assuming you know that someone else knows something they don't. Great post. Everything is relevant and irrelevant at the same time because there are no limits and no absolutes. Are there really no limits or absolutes? Would you then say you are limited in your inability to create an absolute or a limit? Yes. Why? We are limited? By what? By our own reality. What are is the difference between human words and communication between animals? Nothing? I think matter itself has some natural code or program given limits by some source. Matter has a mind of its own. What makes humans different than plants, animals, or the keyboard we are typing on?
Well if reality is all there is, and we are limited by our own reality, how can we exist without limits?
Checkmate.
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On January 20 2013 15:07 Aerisky wrote:
You should try a pillow fort...trust me. You think your mind has been blown right now? You ain't seen nothin' yet, brother.
Lol I have built forts in the past when I was a kid but not with pillows......why?.......grabs pillow.....
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On January 20 2013 15:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 15:05 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:59 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:58 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:38 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:34 ECHOZs wrote:
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But everytime you tried it would be a unique experience that no one has ever felt, had, thought and it will never happen again. That's not true if the universe is infinite in either time or space. Thank you for bringing up time I was meaning to. With this thought process is time real or relevant? Is age relevant? If you heard everything I said so far from a 5 year old, what would you think? Are time and age relevant to what? I don't know what I would think if I heard everything you said from a 5 year old. Are they relevant to an individuals perception of reality? I don't know is a limit. You do know, but you are limiting yourself from speaking freely. Why? They are the very structures through which our perception as we know it is made possible, so I would say they are entirely relevant. In what way is "I don't know" a limit? I can only guess and predict as to how I would react, but it isn't possible to know the future. You are limiting yourself in assuming you know that someone else knows something they don't. Great post. Everything is relevant and irrelevant at the same time because there are no limits and no absolutes. Are there really no limits or absolutes? Would you then say you are limited in your inability to create an absolute or a limit? Yes. Why? We are limited? By what? By our own reality. What are is the difference between human words and communication between animals? Nothing? I think matter itself has some natural code or program given limits by some source. Matter has a mind of its own. What makes humans different than plants, animals, or the keyboard we are typing on? Well if reality is all there is, and we are limited by our own reality, how can we exist without limits? Checkmate.
On a related note, I highly recommend this movie.
+ Show Spoiler +
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On January 20 2013 15:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 15:05 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:59 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:58 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:38 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:34 ECHOZs wrote:
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But everytime you tried it would be a unique experience that no one has ever felt, had, thought and it will never happen again. That's not true if the universe is infinite in either time or space. Thank you for bringing up time I was meaning to. With this thought process is time real or relevant? Is age relevant? If you heard everything I said so far from a 5 year old, what would you think? Are time and age relevant to what? I don't know what I would think if I heard everything you said from a 5 year old. Are they relevant to an individuals perception of reality? I don't know is a limit. You do know, but you are limiting yourself from speaking freely. Why? They are the very structures through which our perception as we know it is made possible, so I would say they are entirely relevant. In what way is "I don't know" a limit? I can only guess and predict as to how I would react, but it isn't possible to know the future. You are limiting yourself in assuming you know that someone else knows something they don't. Great post. Everything is relevant and irrelevant at the same time because there are no limits and no absolutes. Are there really no limits or absolutes? Would you then say you are limited in your inability to create an absolute or a limit? Yes. Why? We are limited? By what? By our own reality. What are is the difference between human words and communication between animals? Nothing? I think matter itself has some natural code or program given limits by some source. Matter has a mind of its own. What makes humans different than plants, animals, or the keyboard we are typing on? Well if reality is all there is, and we are limited by our own reality, how can we exist without limits? Checkmate.
Doesn't checkmate represent an absolute? Its used in chess when there is no possibly chance of winning. It itself is unlimited we can look at starcraft. We all have our own perceptions of how the games is going and we put ourselves into that situation, that's called empathy. But since there are no limits checkmate itself is only subjective to the individual own experiences.
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On January 20 2013 15:10 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 15:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 20 2013 15:05 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:59 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:58 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:38 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
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That's not true if the universe is infinite in either time or space. Thank you for bringing up time I was meaning to. With this thought process is time real or relevant? Is age relevant? If you heard everything I said so far from a 5 year old, what would you think? Are time and age relevant to what? I don't know what I would think if I heard everything you said from a 5 year old. Are they relevant to an individuals perception of reality? I don't know is a limit. You do know, but you are limiting yourself from speaking freely. Why? They are the very structures through which our perception as we know it is made possible, so I would say they are entirely relevant. In what way is "I don't know" a limit? I can only guess and predict as to how I would react, but it isn't possible to know the future. You are limiting yourself in assuming you know that someone else knows something they don't. Great post. Everything is relevant and irrelevant at the same time because there are no limits and no absolutes. Are there really no limits or absolutes? Would you then say you are limited in your inability to create an absolute or a limit? Yes. Why? We are limited? By what? By our own reality. What are is the difference between human words and communication between animals? Nothing? I think matter itself has some natural code or program given limits by some source. Matter has a mind of its own. What makes humans different than plants, animals, or the keyboard we are typing on? Well if reality is all there is, and we are limited by our own reality, how can we exist without limits? Checkmate. On a related note, I highly recommend this movie. + Show Spoiler +
Why did you put it in a spoiler?
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On January 20 2013 15:13 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 15:10 farvacola wrote:On January 20 2013 15:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 20 2013 15:05 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:59 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:58 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:38 ECHOZs wrote:
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Thank you for bringing up time I was meaning to. With this thought process is time real or relevant? Is age relevant? If you heard everything I said so far from a 5 year old, what would you think? Are time and age relevant to what? I don't know what I would think if I heard everything you said from a 5 year old. Are they relevant to an individuals perception of reality? I don't know is a limit. You do know, but you are limiting yourself from speaking freely. Why? They are the very structures through which our perception as we know it is made possible, so I would say they are entirely relevant. In what way is "I don't know" a limit? I can only guess and predict as to how I would react, but it isn't possible to know the future. You are limiting yourself in assuming you know that someone else knows something they don't. Great post. Everything is relevant and irrelevant at the same time because there are no limits and no absolutes. Are there really no limits or absolutes? Would you then say you are limited in your inability to create an absolute or a limit? Yes. Why? We are limited? By what? By our own reality. What are is the difference between human words and communication between animals? Nothing? I think matter itself has some natural code or program given limits by some source. Matter has a mind of its own. What makes humans different than plants, animals, or the keyboard we are typing on? Well if reality is all there is, and we are limited by our own reality, how can we exist without limits? Checkmate. On a related note, I highly recommend this movie. + Show Spoiler + Why did you put it in a spoiler?
He's limiting himself
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On January 20 2013 15:14 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 15:13 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 15:10 farvacola wrote:On January 20 2013 15:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 20 2013 15:05 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:59 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:58 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On January 20 2013 14:48 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 14:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
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Are time and age relevant to what?
I don't know what I would think if I heard everything you said from a 5 year old. Are they relevant to an individuals perception of reality? I don't know is a limit. You do know, but you are limiting yourself from speaking freely. Why? They are the very structures through which our perception as we know it is made possible, so I would say they are entirely relevant. In what way is "I don't know" a limit? I can only guess and predict as to how I would react, but it isn't possible to know the future. You are limiting yourself in assuming you know that someone else knows something they don't. Great post. Everything is relevant and irrelevant at the same time because there are no limits and no absolutes. Are there really no limits or absolutes? Would you then say you are limited in your inability to create an absolute or a limit? Yes. Why? We are limited? By what? By our own reality. What are is the difference between human words and communication between animals? Nothing? I think matter itself has some natural code or program given limits by some source. Matter has a mind of its own. What makes humans different than plants, animals, or the keyboard we are typing on? Well if reality is all there is, and we are limited by our own reality, how can we exist without limits? Checkmate. On a related note, I highly recommend this movie. + Show Spoiler + Why did you put it in a spoiler? He's limiting himself
Ding Ding lol
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Is this your first trip or something?
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If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
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On January 20 2013 15:19 Rollin wrote:
Is this your first trip or something?
No I watched a documentary about John Zorn.
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On January 20 2013 15:20 N1k0 wrote:
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
If it is composed of matter than of course, but it depends.
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I can feel the powers slowly locking in on this thread... we will all soon a fate worse than death: Hyper death!
+ Show Spoiler +
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I just realized something, this all could just be called common sense lol.
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I think op is limiting himself by only writing his ideas on TL. I strongly suggest that you go outside your house and make a cardboard sign with these great ideas, free more ppl from their prisons!
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pseudo scientific bullshit
(just typing my first thoughts like what was asked )
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First thought: Don't come into my emergency department.
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On January 20 2013 15:25 Ottoxlol wrote:
I think op is limiting himself by only writing his ideas on TL. I strongly suggest that you go outside your house and make a cardboard sign with these great ideas, free more ppl from their prisons!
Don't worry I am and I challenge everyone to do the same. I plan on first getting a corgi puppy and then I'm going to revolutionize esports with the help of all of you. Lets not limit ourselves, a group of individuals is something is our reality has never seen. I pose a question what is 2 plus 3?
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On January 20 2013 15:34 MoonfireSpam wrote:
First thought: Don't come into my emergency department.
Haha thanks.
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On January 20 2013 15:26 zefreak wrote:pseudo scientific bullshit (just typing my first thoughts like what was asked )
What makes its pseudo scientific bullshit?
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On January 20 2013 15:26 zefreak wrote:pseudo scientific bullshit (just typing my first thoughts like what was asked )
What makes it scientific?
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Is math just another language of communication?
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buddha quotes question everything, I put this into google and it blew my mind.
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Fuck zombies do exist....
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I was laughing until page 13.. not bad ^^ Good end to a day after GW2..
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On January 20 2013 15:43 Kishin2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 15:26 zefreak wrote:pseudo scientific bullshit (just typing my first thoughts like what was asked ) What makes it scientific?
Well, Pseudo-Scientific. He uses words like matter, quantum physics, general relativity (of course without knowing what they mean, but still)
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On January 20 2013 15:52 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 15:43 Kishin2 wrote:On January 20 2013 15:26 zefreak wrote:pseudo scientific bullshit (just typing my first thoughts like what was asked ) What makes it scientific? Well, Pseudo-Scientific. He uses words like matter, quantum physics, general relativity (of course without knowing what they mean, but still)
Yes I simply am trying to express my opinion. Did you know that Shakespeare was known for creating words? How do you perceive his limits?
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On January 20 2013 15:52 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 15:43 Kishin2 wrote:On January 20 2013 15:26 zefreak wrote:pseudo scientific bullshit (just typing my first thoughts like what was asked ) What makes it scientific? Well, Pseudo-Scientific. He uses words like matter, quantum physics, general relativity (of course without knowing what they mean, but still)
True. Scientific is defined, in my mind, as a process. Pseudo-Science is something that appears to be scientific in its process but flawed. It didn't occur to me that people could describe something as scientific based on terms and not the process.
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On January 20 2013 09:05 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:03 sam!zdat wrote:On January 20 2013 09:02 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:00 sam!zdat wrote:
But is not the ability to say "NO!" precisely the essence of consciousness? I think people should limit themselves more! Thats GREAT! Its all about WHAT YOU THINK! Its your reality make of it as you wish :D No, no, precisely backwards. It's reality's you to make of you as it wishes. There are no absolutes.
There are no absolutes, except the absolute truth that there are not absolutes. -.-
Same as: Everything is "relative", then why isn't "relativity" "relative"? (I put it in parentheses because it's not the physical interpretation of the word.)
Now if I refute or agree with you you'll agree. -.-
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On January 20 2013 15:58 quirinus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 09:05 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:03 sam!zdat wrote:On January 20 2013 09:02 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 09:00 sam!zdat wrote:
But is not the ability to say "NO!" precisely the essence of consciousness? I think people should limit themselves more! Thats GREAT! Its all about WHAT YOU THINK! Its your reality make of it as you wish :D No, no, precisely backwards. It's reality's you to make of you as it wishes. There are no absolutes. There are no absolutes, except the absolute truth that there are not absolutes. -.- Same as: Everything is "relative", then why isn't "relativity" "relative"? (I put it in parentheses because it's not the physical interpretation of the word.) Now if I refute or agree with you you'll agree. -.-
Lol
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On January 20 2013 15:55 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 15:52 Simberto wrote:On January 20 2013 15:43 Kishin2 wrote:On January 20 2013 15:26 zefreak wrote:pseudo scientific bullshit (just typing my first thoughts like what was asked ) What makes it scientific? Well, Pseudo-Scientific. He uses words like matter, quantum physics, general relativity (of course without knowing what they mean, but still) Yes I simply am trying to express my opinion. Did you know that Shakespeare was known for creating words? How do you perceive his limits?
Please don't use things that have no relation to your point. It almost insults me when people use things that they don't have a clue about, like they know what they're talking about; even worse when they're wrong...
"Think without limits." Yes, try calculating2345345345345245243652366362345!^(1234235345623472572634562345345342523452452352352345234!) with your mind. Please do, don't limit yourself to not knowing. Wish yourself to calculate it and it will happen. /sarcasm
It's all nice and dandy, I encourage your thinking, but try to be more rational and think things trough more. You can't explain or show that something like this is valid in just a small text.
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What's wrong with limiting yourself? I'm really curious to hear this answer.
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On January 20 2013 16:08 rad301 wrote:
What's wrong with limiting yourself? I'm really curious to hear this answer.
Nothing, its useful.
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On January 20 2013 16:07 quirinus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 15:55 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 15:52 Simberto wrote:On January 20 2013 15:43 Kishin2 wrote:On January 20 2013 15:26 zefreak wrote:pseudo scientific bullshit (just typing my first thoughts like what was asked ) What makes it scientific? Well, Pseudo-Scientific. He uses words like matter, quantum physics, general relativity (of course without knowing what they mean, but still) Yes I simply am trying to express my opinion. Did you know that Shakespeare was known for creating words? How do you perceive his limits? Please don't use things that have no relation to your point. It almost insults me when people use things that they don't have a clue about, like they know what they're talking about; even worse when they're wrong... "Think without limits." Yes, try calculating2345345345345245243652366362345!^(1234235345623472572634562345345342523452452352352345234!) with your mind. Please do, don't limit yourself to not knowing. Wish yourself to calculate it and it will happen. /sarcasm It's all nice and dandy, I encourage your thinking, but try to be more rational and think things trough more. You can't explain or show that something like this is valid in just a small text.
It was relevant to me, therefore I posted it. Why limit yourself?
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then why do we need to stop?
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On January 20 2013 16:16 rad301 wrote:
then why do we need to stop?
Stop what?
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Limiting people.
"we need to stop limiting people by being closed minded. "
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On January 20 2013 16:19 rad301 wrote:
Limiting people.
"we need to stop limiting people by being closed minded. "
Who's being close minded?
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On January 20 2013 15:55 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 15:52 Simberto wrote:On January 20 2013 15:43 Kishin2 wrote:On January 20 2013 15:26 zefreak wrote:pseudo scientific bullshit (just typing my first thoughts like what was asked ) What makes it scientific? Well, Pseudo-Scientific. He uses words like matter, quantum physics, general relativity (of course without knowing what they mean, but still) Yes I simply am trying to express my opinion. Did you know that Shakespeare was known for creating words? How do you perceive his limits?
Shakespeare probably has on you the fact that he actually mastered the known words before creating new ones.
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On January 20 2013 16:24 Enearde wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 15:55 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 15:52 Simberto wrote:On January 20 2013 15:43 Kishin2 wrote:On January 20 2013 15:26 zefreak wrote:pseudo scientific bullshit (just typing my first thoughts like what was asked ) What makes it scientific? Well, Pseudo-Scientific. He uses words like matter, quantum physics, general relativity (of course without knowing what they mean, but still) Yes I simply am trying to express my opinion. Did you know that Shakespeare was known for creating words? How do you perceive his limits? Shakespeare probably has on you the fact that he actually mastered the known words before creating new ones.
What is mastering? Is it personal or external?
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On January 20 2013 16:23 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 16:19 rad301 wrote:
Limiting people.
"we need to stop limiting people by being closed minded. " Who's being close minded?
You're being way too open minded. Not everything anyone says is significant, correct or worth investing time in.
Evolution has caused you to believe you are special and your thoughts are special, because that is a convenient illusion for carrying on with life.
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I'm not sure who you meant, it's a confusing statement the more I think of it. Could you clarify what you meant? I'm assuming this means our (We) act of being closed minded limits people, but I can't clarify beyond that. Who is being limited by one being close minded?
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On January 20 2013 16:29 Solarsail wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 16:23 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 16:19 rad301 wrote:
Limiting people.
"we need to stop limiting people by being closed minded. " Who's being close minded? You're being way too open minded. Not everything anyone says is significant, correct or worth investing time in. Evolution has caused you to believe you are special and your thoughts are special, because that is a convenient illusion for carrying on with life.
There are no absolutes, why limit myself?
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On January 20 2013 16:29 rad301 wrote:
I'm not sure who you meant, it's a confusing statement the more I think of it. Could you clarify what you meant? I'm assuming this means our (We) act of being closed minded limits people, but I can't clarify beyond that. Who is being limited by one being close minded?
What makes it confusing?
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Your statement as far as I can rationalize it:
Being closed minded limits people.
Had you said something like "Our act of being closed minded limits *us*", there would be no confusion. Is that what you meant to say or did you mean to say "Our act of being closed minded limits *other* people,"?
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On January 20 2013 16:15 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 16:07 quirinus wrote:On January 20 2013 15:55 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 15:52 Simberto wrote:On January 20 2013 15:43 Kishin2 wrote:On January 20 2013 15:26 zefreak wrote:pseudo scientific bullshit (just typing my first thoughts like what was asked ) What makes it scientific? Well, Pseudo-Scientific. He uses words like matter, quantum physics, general relativity (of course without knowing what they mean, but still) Yes I simply am trying to express my opinion. Did you know that Shakespeare was known for creating words? How do you perceive his limits? Please don't use things that have no relation to your point. It almost insults me when people use things that they don't have a clue about, like they know what they're talking about; even worse when they're wrong... "Think without limits." Yes, try calculating2345345345345245243652366362345!^(1234235345623472572634562345345342523452452352352345234!) with your mind. Please do, don't limit yourself to not knowing. Wish yourself to calculate it and it will happen. /sarcasm It's all nice and dandy, I encourage your thinking, but try to be more rational and think things trough more. You can't explain or show that something like this is valid in just a small text. It was relevant to me, therefore I posted it. Why limit yourself?
Just ignore me, I'm kinda grumpy in the morning. xD
But try to view things from the perspective of the people that are trying to refute or discredit your idea/view/theory and modify it so it solves those problems (without changing the spirit of it); or if it can't be done, abandon it and start a new one.
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Are we the universe or is the universe us? Good night everyone and thank you all who posted, every single one of your comments has changed my perception of the world by self reflecting and comparing it to my own. See you tommorrow actually see you later today. Is time relevant or is it simply another structure? Peace.
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On January 20 2013 16:31 ECHOZs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 16:29 Solarsail wrote:On January 20 2013 16:23 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 16:19 rad301 wrote:
Limiting people.
"we need to stop limiting people by being closed minded. " Who's being close minded? You're being way too open minded. Not everything anyone says is significant, correct or worth investing time in. Evolution has caused you to believe you are special and your thoughts are special, because that is a convenient illusion for carrying on with life. There are no absolutes, why limit myself?
Do you have any proof for the statement of no absolutes? Because the speed of light is an absolute.
But you don't want to get anywhere near proof, because you might be proven wrong and then, game's up, you're just making words up on the spot that sound significant.
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On January 20 2013 16:36 rad301 wrote:
Your statement as far as I can rationalize it:
Being closed minded limits people.
Had you said something like "Our act of being closed minded limits *us*", there would be no confusion. Is that what you meant to say or did you mean to say "Our act of being closed minded limits *other* people,"?
I currently live by a few assumptions.
1. All matter is created equal?
2. Matter has 2 qualities that of an individual and of a group?
3. Question Everything?
4. There are no absolutes?
5. Think without limits?
This is how I see reality and so far no one has been able to prove these 5 laws wrong.
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On January 20 2013 16:39 Solarsail wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 16:31 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 16:29 Solarsail wrote:On January 20 2013 16:23 ECHOZs wrote:On January 20 2013 16:19 rad301 wrote:
Limiting people.
"we need to stop limiting people by being closed minded. " Who's being close minded? You're being way too open minded. Not everything anyone says is significant, correct or worth investing time in. Evolution has caused you to believe you are special and your thoughts are special, because that is a convenient illusion for carrying on with life. There are no absolutes, why limit myself? Do you have any proof for the statement of no absolutes? Because the speed of light is an absolute. But you don't want to get anywhere near proof, because you might be proven wrong and then, game's up, you're just making words up on the spot that sound significant.
Speed of light is absolute according to the laws of physics. Are the laws of physics absolute?
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There are no absolutes is an absolute isn't it?
Closing this.
On a slightly related note, it's always bothered me that Obi-Wan goes "only the Sith deal in absolutes". Only the Sith? Really? And when did you go to the dark side.
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