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sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 20 2013 04:54 GMT
#181
John Zorn is the best, last time I was tripping on mushrooms there was this Painkiller track that came up and the saxophone was like a nova in my brain. epic

On January 20 2013 13:01 Ianuus wrote:
classical mechanics are a result of probability theory founded on quantum.


Ah, yes, Newton developed classical mechanics by applying probability theory to quantum mechanics in order to more efficiently calculate the motion of large objects. Finally I understand how science works.
shikata ga nai
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6774 Posts
January 20 2013 04:56 GMT
#182
Ok here goes:

All matter is energy. Before the big bang, all energy was a singular, perfect, homogenous entity. It then 'exploded' to create space/time. Deconstruction and reconstruction (by forces etc) changes combinations of the resulting matter through time, which in turn lets consciousness emerge from evolved systems. (skipped some steps here) This consciousness is then able to reflect upon different levels of reality.

Therefore: the universe is the attempt of energy trying to understand itself, through a fractal-like, genetic matrix.


The real catch is: all of this is just an idea, passed through an abstracted image formed by culture.
Meaning that everything is inside your head.
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ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
January 20 2013 04:57 GMT
#183
On January 20 2013 13:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 13:19 ECHOZs wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:15 DaCruise wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:14 ECHOZs wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:12 DaCruise wrote:
If our brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn´t.

I like this, I like this alot.


Taken from Civ 5 and the developers obviously got it from somewhere else.

I have a question, is the original source of information relevant? When I first saw that I assumed it was your original statement, and it in fact is. You are using it in a new environment and putting it into the world for others to learn from and putting your own unique perspective/influence in the way you communicate it, thank you.

Please somebody shoot me.

You bring up an interesting topic, death. What is death? If all matter is created equally what does that say of our perception of consciousnesses? Is death real? Or does all matter simply have some sense of Independence, ego, or individuality? Is this the driving force of evolution? Holy shit these are great questions thank you!!
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 20 2013 04:57 GMT
#184
No, no, what you said means that you're inside everything's head.
shikata ga nai
ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
January 20 2013 04:58 GMT
#185
On January 20 2013 13:56 Xeofreestyler wrote:
Ok here goes:

All matter is energy. Before the big bang, all energy was a singular, perfect, homogenous entity. It then 'exploded' to create space/time. Deconstruction and reconstruction (by forces etc) changes combinations of the resulting matter through time, which in turn lets consciousness emerge from evolved systems. (skipped some steps here) This consciousness is then able to reflect upon different levels of reality.

Therefore: the universe is the attempt of energy trying to understand itself, through a fractal-like, genetic matrix.


The real catch is: all of this is just an idea, passed through an abstracted image formed by culture.
Meaning that everything is inside your head.

Holy shit man, this is amazing, I am so pumped right now its insane.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 20 2013 04:58 GMT
#186
Just wait until he discovers hegel...
shikata ga nai
ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
January 20 2013 04:59 GMT
#187
On January 20 2013 13:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Just wait until he discovers hegel...

hegel......Go on
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 05:27:32
January 20 2013 05:00 GMT
#188
What kind of existentialist bs is this. I thought these theories of philosophy were discarded a while ago as they didn't lead to any form of real argument and were just self-fulfilling, self-serving prophecies about how nothing has limits or how no one really controls anything.
EDIT: this was a bit harsh, though I can see that other people are reacting like I did, I just feel like the reasons to not believe this sort of thing (despite how alluring it is) show how existentialism really does beg the question much more than a lot of people realize. I feel like this is a sort of naive way of looking at life from a view of absolutes.
User was warned for too many mimes.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 05:02:33
January 20 2013 05:01 GMT
#189
On January 20 2013 13:59 ECHOZs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 13:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Just wait until he discovers hegel...

hegel......Go on


you're gonna love hegel. I don't want to give you any spoilers
shikata ga nai
ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
January 20 2013 05:03 GMT
#190
On January 20 2013 14:00 docvoc wrote:
What kind of existentialist bs is this. I thought these theories of philosophy were discarded a while ago as they didn't lead to any form of real argument and were just self-fulfilling, self-serving prophecies about how nothing has limits or how no one really controls anything.

Look at these words and question why and how your were influenced and by what. Now take your own personal understandings of these words and apply them to anything. Anarchy, Democracy, socialism, do you see a connection?
ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
January 20 2013 05:04 GMT
#191
On January 20 2013 14:01 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 13:59 ECHOZs wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Just wait until he discovers hegel...

hegel......Go on


you're gonna love hegel. I don't want to give you any spoilers

Lol you bastard, you are limiting me, but at the same time its raises my anticipation to read it. Are there such things as absolutes?
sukarestu
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia40 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 05:08:21
January 20 2013 05:05 GMT
#192
After a review of this thread... you sir ECHOZs have put great effort to troll, for that I commend you. Please tell me the rest of your aliases or theories so I may indulge in the reactions of the people who actually try to comprehend your logic. It may even be that you're the messenger of God, oh my you may even be beyond that for you are so unlimited in the UTTER BULLSHIT your deliver. Well played, well played you should try to be a journalist instead, make money out of people raging at your mumble. We need people like you, people to pave the way to negative human progress, only then will we be consistently reminded which way is wrong and which is right. For that, I thank you.

Side note: Man imagine getting high with this guy, he'll never stop talking
ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
January 20 2013 05:07 GMT
#193
On January 20 2013 14:05 sukarestu wrote:
After a review of this thread... you sir ECHOZs have put great effort to troll, for that I commend you. Please tell me the rest of your aliases or theories so I may indulge in the reactions of the people who actually try to comprehend your logic. It may even be that you're the messenger of God, oh my you may even be beyond that for you are so unlimited in the UTTER BULLSHIT your deliver. Well played, well played you should try to be a journalist instead, make money out of people raging at your mumble. We need people like you, people to pave the way to negative human progress, only then will we be consistently reminded which way is wrong and which is right. For that, I thank you.

Lol through out this whole thread I didn't even think of giving out my twitter for people, thanks. https://twitter.com/Echozss
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 20 2013 05:07 GMT
#194
On January 20 2013 14:04 ECHOZs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 14:01 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:59 ECHOZs wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Just wait until he discovers hegel...

hegel......Go on


you're gonna love hegel. I don't want to give you any spoilers


Are there such things as absolutes?


The Absolute is not a Thing. At least I don't think so.
shikata ga nai
GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
January 20 2013 05:08 GMT
#195
This is interesting. By saying there are no limits, one would be limiting themselves to that statement. There are no absolutes goes the same way. Everything is relative? Not the previous statement. It's a simple logical paradox that will just go round and round in circles.
In reality, it's impossible to break a limit without limiting yourself, resign all absolutes without creating one.
Then of course I'm limiting myself with this opinion, but there is no way around it.
So, most philosophers have adapted a slightly different statement "There is but one absolute: there are no absolutes".
But then again it's the same thing, so who cares?
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6774 Posts
January 20 2013 05:09 GMT
#196
food for your brain -
http://rotten.com/library/bio/mad-science/jakob-bohme/
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 20 2013 05:09 GMT
#197
What the fuck are you guys talking about? I read all 9 pages twice and I'm still confused as what the hell this thread about.
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
January 20 2013 05:10 GMT
#198
On January 20 2013 14:07 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 14:04 ECHOZs wrote:
On January 20 2013 14:01 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:59 ECHOZs wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Just wait until he discovers hegel...

hegel......Go on


you're gonna love hegel. I don't want to give you any spoilers


Are there such things as absolutes?


The Absolute is not a Thing. At least I don't think so.

Exactly, that is how I see it. It depends on every individual, every piece of matter, every thing is independent, but it is also self reliant. What are differences between individuals and groups?
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 20 2013 05:10 GMT
#199
On January 20 2013 14:09 Shana wrote:
I read all 9 pages twice \


Why the fuck would you do that.
shikata ga nai
Zergofobic
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Macedonia50 Posts
January 20 2013 05:10 GMT
#200
God created the universe and our reality. I know god exists for a fact.

That said there are some things in our universe that function in a certain way.

For example size and distance are not real. You could go trillionths of a milimetar small and there wouldn't be an end. Distance is also not real, its just limited right now at how you can travel on the space.

There is also a possibility there to be other universes and realities that all play out.
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