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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7763 Posts
December 15 2012 01:09 GMT
#181
As long as teamliquid provides it's usual quality (high quality) I think this should be great.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
December 15 2012 01:11 GMT
#182
On December 15 2012 10:09 Vasoline73 wrote:
As long as teamliquid provides it's usual quality (high quality) I think this should be great.


It won't be on the TeamLiquidTV-stream, but on the proleagueSC2-stream, which is still subscriber-based for the 720p+ afaik?
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
kc2siq
Profile Joined April 2012
United States319 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 01:16:38
December 15 2012 01:11 GMT
#183
On December 15 2012 10:02 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 09:51 Jacmert wrote:
I still can't understand how I just paid $100+ for a GomTV Premium GSL 2013 pass, but Kespa is content with charging $5 for a 7.5 month season of English Proleague casts and hired their (English) production crew 1 week AFTER the season started.

I am starting to be of the opinion that Kespa doesn't quite get the world outside of Korea. Or as some naysayers have mentioned, they don't really care about the foreign scene (but this is a baby step for them that shows they're starting to become more aware).

I can assure you that KeSPA and IEG, as well as OGN, do care about the foreign scene and was working hard to resolve this issue.


I can't speak too much about the SC2 scene, but KESPA teams are getting pretty active in foreign LoL. SKT1 and CJ Entus are at IEM right now actually. Hell, CJ Entus and KT Rolster B are getting pretty fucking good and I'll be expecting to see them in foreign lands more in the future.

EDIT: Actually, looking at it from an LoL perspective, the original statement about OGN and KESPA not caring is a bit strange between Champion Summers and the KESPA teams, though I suppose understandable considering their history.
Byun, best player in the world!
BaconofWar
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States369 Posts
December 15 2012 01:13 GMT
#184
Let's get some Azael casting up in here!
Well, C9 is the best right now
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
December 15 2012 01:17 GMT
#185
On December 15 2012 09:50 Signus wrote:
As great as this is, it's not a permanent solution to the problem. I still want to know exactly what happened between KeSPA and OGN that prevented an English Broadcast, since that's obviously ideal to have your casters at the venue and working full time on Proleague. Still, it's greatly appreciated and I hope it works out for the best. Now you just need to get Sayle to work a few weekend matches.


I don't think it is hard to figure out.

In the Brood War days, Proleague was produced by both OGN and MBC. Both companies had the rights for Korean broadcast, and both produced/broadcasted the matches played on their respective studios.

IEG was given the rights for international broadcasts since last year. As the international broadcast is internet-driven, it is natural for IEG and KeSPA to try centralizing the broadcast and distribution of VODs. Thus EsportsTV in Youtube and now sc2proleague in twitch.

Initially, IEG just broadcasted content produced by OGN. But now that IEG is producing the weekdays matches, and they already had the rights for international broadcasts, they might as well unify the production of international broadcasts. DoA did mention KeSPA was working with IEG on a unified platform.

Thus the spat with OGN, as it was a conflict of the status quo (split production) vs. unified production. As things didn't work out, we now the production deal with EG-TL.

A lot of this is speculation, trying to connect the dots. We don't know the details of planning and all that, but if you are struggling with production issues, might as well take some help and the added benefit of working with people that really know the audience.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 01:19:05
December 15 2012 01:18 GMT
#186
EG and TL. I still don't like it.
But I can't denie that they bring some awesome extra impulse in the foreign scene.
I had a good night of sleep.
FantomX
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada247 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 01:24:00
December 15 2012 01:20 GMT
#187
So does anyone know if we can watch the korean stream?? They killed it like 15 minutes into the KT vs EGTL game last weekend for people outside korea/maybe just NA can't access.

I much prefer the korean casters, doesn't matter what english casters there is. I just prefer the atmosphere of the korean ones.


edit: im seeing the VLC stream is listed. hopefully that works for the korean stream by OGN
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
December 15 2012 01:23 GMT
#188
Yay! I actually did a little Gangnam Style dance when I read this.
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
December 15 2012 01:23 GMT
#189
Wait what? This sounds extremely unexpected and awesome.
o choro é livre
sHt_
Profile Joined January 2011
France239 Posts
December 15 2012 01:24 GMT
#190
On December 15 2012 10:03 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Interesting.

Didn't know TB even followed SC2. But tbh don't really watch his stuff. Guess we'll see today how it works out.


It's not like he got an awesome team of himself or anything..
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
December 15 2012 01:24 GMT
#191
This is amazing! I'll watch for sure now!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
December 15 2012 01:26 GMT
#192
On December 15 2012 10:07 Adebisi wrote:
It will be over Skype, and I agree it is a million times less than ideal, casting over skype kind of sucks, especially for something as prestigious as Proleague, but sometimes you have to work with the hand you're dealt, this goes for all parties involved. Hopefully down the line the broadcasts will have studio setups with the commentators together (even if it is offsite, I think that's fine, so long as the crowd/bench/player shots are still in).


Seconded. We'll do the best we can with the tools at our disposal and hopefully everyone will have a good time.
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
December 15 2012 01:26 GMT
#193
Good to get English broadcast obviously, and casters are good. But Im not really a fan of how it seems Kespa tries to do their own thing and not let the well established entities of broadcasting handle it. This seem to be a last minute solution because I guess TL/EG really wanted an English stream and Kespa really couldnt provide it any other way.
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
December 15 2012 01:27 GMT
#194
On December 15 2012 10:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Seconded. We'll do the best we can with the tools at our disposal and hopefully everyone will have a good time.

TB again dodging the important question:

Will it be #BitterBiscuit or #TotalBitter or some other archon name?!
Plat Support Main #believe
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 15 2012 01:33 GMT
#195
On December 15 2012 10:27 Jacmert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 10:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Seconded. We'll do the best we can with the tools at our disposal and hopefully everyone will have a good time.

TB again dodging the important question:

Will it be #BitterBiscuit or #TotalBitter or some other archon name?!

Maybe it will be the professional option of Ben and John.
Tanksenior
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands26 Posts
December 15 2012 01:37 GMT
#196
Nice! Can't say I'm not excited about this.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 01:40:40
December 15 2012 01:39 GMT
#197
It's nice that KeSPA decided to give you guys the rights to cast in English, but this doesn't change much for me and a few fellow veterans who prefer the Korean cast. Go get them tiger!

On December 15 2012 10:33 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 10:27 Jacmert wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Seconded. We'll do the best we can with the tools at our disposal and hopefully everyone will have a good time.

TB again dodging the important question:

Will it be #BitterBiscuit or #TotalBitter or some other archon name?!

Maybe it will be the professional option of Ben and John.


Or how about they stand on their own? You people and your casting archons.
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 01:43:20
December 15 2012 01:40 GMT
#198
On December 15 2012 10:33 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 10:27 Jacmert wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Seconded. We'll do the best we can with the tools at our disposal and hopefully everyone will have a good time.

TB again dodging the important question:

Will it be #BitterBiscuit or #TotalBitter or some other archon name?!

Maybe it will be the professional option of Ben and John.

I just realized something: try and say "Ben and John and Genna Bain" three times, really fast.

EDIT: Darn, it's not actually that hard because of the back to back "John" and "Jenna" and "Bain" and "Ben"

"John and Jenna Bain and Ben" x 3 times, on the other hand...
Plat Support Main #believe
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 15 2012 01:41 GMT
#199
Is anyone else really uneasy with all this friendliness between EG and TL?
MMA: The true King of Wings
kevinmon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
December 15 2012 01:41 GMT
#200
Hell yes, thank you guys!
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