• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:08
CET 00:08
KST 08:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns5[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
SC2 AI Tournament 2026 WardiTV Winter Cup OSC Season 13 World Championship uThermal 2v2 Circuit WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft Data analysis on 70 million replays Empty tournaments section on Liquipedia A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread The Big Programming Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
GOAT of Goats list
BisuDagger
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 946 users

EG & TL to Produce English Proleague Broadcasts - Page 8

Forum Index > Closed
1050 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 53 Next
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
December 15 2012 00:52 GMT
#141
I'm fine with this as long as it's live and of decent production quality. Still feel bad for DoA though. I don't know that his casts (either with OGN or even continued IEG casting) would have been any better than this option, but I can't help but feel he got screwed a bit in this whole situation.

Hope the proleague's English broadcast starts to settle sooner rather than later and we start to see some real production value and consistent quality casters like GOM has spoiled us to expect. If that's through a TL/EG venture, local IEG production, a return to OGN, or some other option we haven't seen yet, I don't care, just would like to see this situation stabilize so it can begin to grow! The quality of this league demands it!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 15 2012 00:53 GMT
#142
On December 15 2012 09:52 Corsica wrote:
so TLO back in KR...cool hope see him play when he is in shape

They won't go to KR for this.
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
December 15 2012 00:54 GMT
#143
this is sick!
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
December 15 2012 00:54 GMT
#144
On December 15 2012 09:51 Zeon0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 09:39 Jacmert wrote:
On December 15 2012 09:34 Zeon0 wrote:
it seems doa is keeping to be wrong with his PL statements :D

If by wrong, you meant 100% right, then you are correct. I believe his statements were to the effect that there would be NO OGN ENGLISH cast of the Proleague (contrary to prior expectations or agreements between OGN and Kespa). And lo and behold, we have confirmation today that there will be no OGN English cast of Proleague. And this whole thing smells like Kespa started throwing it together around the time DoA broke the news to us, which would be consistent with Kespa suddenly reneging on whatever prior "agreement" they had with OGN.



'nuff said

But let's read everything really carefully. Even in that tweet, he appears to be 100% correct Actually, I think that tweet might show how in the dark Kespa left OGN when they communicated to them that OGN would no longer be doing the English cast.
Plat Support Main #believe
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
December 15 2012 00:55 GMT
#145
Proleague english broadcast through EG and TL, sooo awesome. This is definitely best case scenario. Still will miss Korean commentators, even if I didn't understand for so many years in BW.
HamsterBob
Profile Joined March 2011
United States43 Posts
December 15 2012 00:56 GMT
#146
If this is what spontaneous, unforeseen circumstances leads to... I'm happy with unpredictability.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
December 15 2012 00:56 GMT
#147
Siiiiiiiiick! Not too sure about TB and Mr. Bitter, but I'll no doubt tune in for Adebisi!
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
December 15 2012 00:56 GMT
#148
On December 15 2012 09:52 ViktorSC wrote:
Fantastic. ^ I like Mr. Biscuit better.

Mr. Biscuit is cool, but to really retain each personality's brand in the hybrid name, I think you have to go with:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TotalBitter
Plat Support Main #believe
AKRW
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
80 Posts
December 15 2012 00:57 GMT
#149
On December 15 2012 09:51 Jacmert wrote:
I still can't understand how I just paid $100+ for a GomTV Premium GSL 2013 pass, but Kespa is content with charging $5 for a 7.5 month season of English Proleague casts and hired their (English) production crew 1 week AFTER the season started.

I am starting to be of the opinion that Kespa doesn't quite get the world outside of Korea. Or as some naysayers have mentioned, they don't really care about the foreign scene (but this is a baby step for them that shows they're starting to become more aware).


Yep. They have no clue.

They need a decent website for VODs. Right now they have the English VODs on twitch and you cant even look them up without being spoiled. And the Korean VODs on youtube are 4:3 -.-. I hope TL will upload the matches to their youtube channel.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
December 15 2012 00:58 GMT
#150
AWESOMESAUCE!!!! I think Mr.Bitter and TotalBiscuit make an excellent team.
TL+ Member
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 15 2012 00:59 GMT
#151
OMG so sick!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
birchman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden393 Posts
December 15 2012 00:59 GMT
#152
Awesome! Sounds like a real good solution, and I am looking forward to seeing them in action in a few hours.
Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback.
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
December 15 2012 00:59 GMT
#153
On December 15 2012 09:53 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 09:52 Corsica wrote:
so TLO back in KR...cool hope see him play when he is in shape

They won't go to KR for this.


Sry i only read first and last paragraphs when i dont have time. Well one day i hope Proleague will have their own foreign casters, once they realize how important foreign fans are.
tinytin
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4 Posts
December 15 2012 00:59 GMT
#154
Next EG/TL Stop: GSTL. Where does it stop?
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
December 15 2012 00:59 GMT
#155
I have a question I want to ask, and I mean it in genuinely the least offensive way possible, but it's something I really feel needs to be asked: Are the people feeling that Doa should be a part of the casts and other similar things saying so because they genuinely like Doa, or is it because our community is full of people who are pretty innocent and genuinely think everyone in the scene is still going to be there in six years?
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
December 15 2012 01:00 GMT
#156
Something is better than nothing.... but this is a big step in the wrong direction.

Having your english stream casted from a remote location halfway across the globe over on-site casters from OGN... sense... it makes none =/

Will the casters actually be in the same room? Or talking over skype chat?

This is meant to be the biggest team tournament in SC2 now everything has switched over (hopefully it outlasts the initial 'omg proleague actually sc2 now' & 'omg EGTL in proleague' hype trains)
stuff & things
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 01:05:39
December 15 2012 01:02 GMT
#157
Meh. It's incredibly silly not to just have the guy already there in the studio cast it. Don't get me wrong I like both TB & Bitter but I can just imagine a situation where something goes wrong. The English casting crew will have absolutely no clue, no way of finding out and most importantly have no ability convey to the audience what the problem is.

Imho, KeSPA/IEG should have just let OGN do it's thing rather than interfere. Despite that though, much appreciation to TL/EG for getting things set up so we at least have something.
Taengoo ♥
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
December 15 2012 01:02 GMT
#158
Please stay away from letting any of the IPL shitters cast this, thanks in advance.

User was warned for this post
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
December 15 2012 01:02 GMT
#159
On December 15 2012 09:51 Jacmert wrote:
I still can't understand how I just paid $100+ for a GomTV Premium GSL 2013 pass, but Kespa is content with charging $5 for a 7.5 month season of English Proleague casts and hired their (English) production crew 1 week AFTER the season started.

I am starting to be of the opinion that Kespa doesn't quite get the world outside of Korea. Or as some naysayers have mentioned, they don't really care about the foreign scene (but this is a baby step for them that shows they're starting to become more aware).

I can assure you that KeSPA and IEG, as well as OGN, do care about the foreign scene and was working hard to resolve this issue.
ppp
Isaac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States810 Posts
December 15 2012 01:02 GMT
#160
I'm not happy about his, I feel like DoA should cast. Even then the fact that this is occuring is really bad.
number one fan of marineking
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 53 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 53m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
White-Ra 215
JuggernautJason136
PiGStarcraft128
UpATreeSC 113
Nathanias 110
elazer 104
CosmosSc2 26
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 280
Shuttle 200
910 33
Dota 2
syndereN475
monkeys_forever289
League of Legends
JimRising 687
C9.Mang0253
Counter-Strike
fl0m1697
Foxcn157
Super Smash Bros
PPMD13
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu490
Other Games
tarik_tv5700
Grubby3683
Liquid`RaSZi2460
shahzam395
Pyrionflax377
B2W.Neo198
QueenE87
Livibee62
ViBE34
minikerr26
Chillindude5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick40725
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 51
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV337
Other Games
• imaqtpie3117
• Shiphtur863
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 53m
davetesta11
SOOP
4h 53m
OSC
12h 53m
OSC
1d 14h
SOOP
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
4 days
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-05
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
OSC Championship Season 13
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.