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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
December 10 2012 15:18 GMT
#21
On December 10 2012 23:52 FuRong wrote:
I have a bad feeling this is going to become a meme, and we're gonna be subjected to multiple threads starting with "Some tough questions for..."

On the flip side; Maybe someone will make a parody of it that half of the community doesn't get.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
December 10 2012 15:28 GMT
#22
These are indeed very tough questions.
I am glad there still are some critical tl'ers left. Especially number 3 is a very good one. If the owner always holds a speech at the end of the tournament, he should continue to do so. No exceptions allowed.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 10 2012 15:28 GMT
#23
This is a terrible thread made only to try to make NASL look bad after a fantastic event.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
December 10 2012 15:28 GMT
#24
The poor turn out is due to the decline of the game, people have been jumping boat for a long time and the game requires new blood to keep it going which hasn't happened since the younger blood is hyped with it's own game aka LoL. HotS has yet to exceed peoples expectations.
FlashDave.999 aka Star
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
December 10 2012 15:30 GMT
#25
Someone shit in this guy's cherrios this morning? This isn't a post with "hard questions;" this is a post with you taking the piss out of NASL for some reason or another. You're clearly not a journalist and clearly these answers are completely unsubstantiated. Get over yourself.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Drlemur
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States153 Posts
December 10 2012 15:32 GMT
#26
NASL had awesome stream production this season -- it has become by far my favorite online esports show.

For next season, it would be great to see their online presence get a little more informative and organized. Posting the prize pool earlier, for example. And how about a list of how much money is getting won by the participants on a weekly basis and/or through any special show-matches?

It's weird to me how much many of these big tournaments rely entirely on liquipedia to share information about their events. Seems like you'd want to be your own face of your organization, drive traffic to your site, etc.

As for the OP, I'm sure Hero and the others will be paid. NASL has been reliable, afaik. I don't think they pulled a big crowd in Long Beach, but it wasn't really an attendance-friendly event. Two days of 10+ hours of content is tough to sit through in a theater and much better to watch at home. Maybe they can come up with some new ideas for the finals event next season(s).
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 10 2012 15:33 GMT
#27
Post seems more butt hurt that the NASL finals were not held in Canada again.

I thought it was a poor attendance but, i also didn't care about seeing 10000s of fans in an audience :S i care about watching the stream and the players playing.

I thought NASL S4 was good, had some great players in the last 8, and DeMuslim vs Violet games were amazing and i had alot of fun watching them. Also listening to Day9 Soe, Bitterdam cast and analyze the games. Also, NASL DOG, was so cute :D
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17387 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 16:10:42
December 10 2012 15:59 GMT
#28
On December 10 2012 23:26 BlitchizSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 23:25 Disposition1989 wrote:
These questions make me uncomfortable, as if you're looking for trouble just for the sake of something : \


That's exactly how I read them. NASL Season 5 and 6 have been confirmed. Hero Won 30k. This is a witch-hunt of nothing.

source?

with solid sources, other than hearsay, i can update the post.. as i stated in the post itself.

On December 10 2012 23:22 ELA wrote:
Just FYI - I was one of many working on the NASL4 page; We do _not_ have a reference for the prizepool on the page. In fact, several contributors attempted to get information on the prizepool before the tournament started, but failed. The numbers on Liquipedia are based on what has been mentioned on stream by casters as the tournament was going on.


thanks for the feedback

On December 10 2012 23:36 Shartugal wrote:
A tough question to the OP could be: Do you wanna point out how much better of a place Canada is to host an event?

Canada is a giant country.
its a very specific place that i am referring to. its NASL's #1 city for online viewership.

Toronto =/= Charlottetown or Whitehorse or Flin Flon
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divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
December 10 2012 16:05 GMT
#29
The OP wasn't scathing, so I'm a little confused as to all the negative comments.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17387 Posts
December 10 2012 16:08 GMT
#30
On December 11 2012 01:05 divito wrote:
The OP wasn't scathing, so I'm a little confused as to all the negative comments.

i'm just glad Hotbid and Slasher had the balls to acknowledge the low turnout.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
J_Slim
Profile Joined May 2011
United States199 Posts
December 10 2012 16:13 GMT
#31
Sounds like someone is pissed they didn't go back to Canada again.

Not sure though -- never met a pissed Canadian before.
Legalize it!
Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
December 10 2012 16:19 GMT
#32
for christmas can someone buy a jimmyjraynor a wooden spoon? he really likes to stir the shit pot.
bring back weapon of choice for hots!
HeavenResign
Profile Joined April 2011
United States702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 16:32:30
December 10 2012 16:32 GMT
#33
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/North_American_Star_League_Season_4#Prize_Pool

Seasons 5 and 6



#1 apparently the venue was a lot smaller, I guess that's the only decent question you have. #4 I get you're from Canada but that's not a tough question, you just want them to come back to Toronto.

Not such a great thread.
MASTERCAKES
Profile Joined March 2012
United States127 Posts
December 10 2012 16:32 GMT
#34
I don't see any reason why what the casters said the prize pool was should be doubted. This reeks of a witch hunt.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17387 Posts
December 10 2012 16:37 GMT
#35
On December 11 2012 01:13 J_Slim wrote:
Sounds like someone is pissed they didn't go back to Canada again.

Not sure though -- never met a pissed Canadian before.


you don't know many Canadians then...

let me introduce you to Canada's most famous embassador of hockey: Don Cherry

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 10 2012 16:38 GMT
#36
On December 11 2012 01:32 MASTERCAKES wrote:
I don't see any reason why what the casters said the prize pool was should be doubted. This reeks of a witch hunt.


He was also talking shit during the entire LR thread. It's probably best to just ignore him.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
December 10 2012 16:47 GMT
#37
See, I just wanna know why nobody does events in NYC. Seriously. MLG has done tons of stuff here that I couldn't go see because they weren't having spectators. Whatup with that?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17387 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 17:02:50
December 10 2012 16:52 GMT
#38
On December 11 2012 01:32 HeavenResign wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/North_American_Star_League_Season_4#Prize_Pool

Seasons 5 and 6

https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/277984655419011072

#1 apparently the venue was a lot smaller, I guess that's the only decent question you have. #4 I get you're from Canada but that's not a tough question, you just want them to come back to Toronto.

Not such a great thread.


it was already stated by a guy who edits the Season4 LIquipedia article that they got that information from what the casters stated during the broadcast despite their efforts to get the prize pool info directly from NASL before the event.

if u watch the Hotbid//Slasher video, Slasher and Hotbid state only 110 people showed up.
It was no where near a sell out which would've been about 850.

so they went from 5000 in season 3 to ~110 in Season 4. Ouch, that is a big drop.

Thanks for the solid sources of info on Season 5 and 6.
This thread was born about 12 hours after that tweet so its not like they published in 10,000 places that Seasons 5 and 6 were going to happen. And , its only a single tweet. But, its better than nothin!

Obviously, if they are hosting Seasons 5 and 6 then they are going to pay the prize money.

On December 11 2012 01:47 Zennith wrote:
See, I just wanna know why nobody does events in NYC. Seriously. MLG has done tons of stuff here that I couldn't go see because they weren't having spectators. Whatup with that?


Slasher and Hotbid cover that topic in their NASL S4 interview
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Fleuria
Profile Joined April 2011
England466 Posts
December 10 2012 16:56 GMT
#39
Didn't they have a really bad turnout in s2 so they went to canada for s3 which was an amazing turnout just to go back to america where in the previous 2 seasons they had an awful showing?!

sense much
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17387 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 17:03:17
December 10 2012 17:01 GMT
#40
On December 11 2012 01:56 Fleuria wrote:
Didn't they have a really bad turnout in s2 so they went to canada for s3 which was an amazing turnout just to go back to america where in the previous 2 seasons they had an awful showing?!

sense much

1 reason they probably held the event where they did.

i think Long Beach, California is a lot closer to the NASL HQ making an event there far more convenient than a 5,000 km trip to "Toronto".
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