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FetTerBender
Germany1393 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On December 04 2012 22:47 FetTerBender wrote: Glad i work in the Marketing department. We do not lie, we interpret information And I work for the military intelligence department and discuss business ethics regarding the sales of means of people to defend themselves to the untapped African market. Also all hail lord xenu. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On December 04 2012 22:40 Caihead wrote: What do you mean.... It's already commonly accepted fact that media systems and propaganda of all sorts have their own agendas and every person on the street with a loud speaker has their own personal interest or stake. We have entire professions dedicated to lying, fabricating, and defending morally offensive or harmful positions. Why not be afraid and aware of what's right in your face already. Well people are not paranoid because it happens, I think they are paranoid because it happens in the same medium they are("so anyone can be fake"), im generalizing here. But whenever there is a news about internet doing this and that (read: pornography, illegal stuff, reddit etc) people suddenly wake up as if their moral high ground gets destroyed. Well this stuff happened before internet was invented and there were always many people who did weird stuff but this weird stuff happened in seclusion. Its the problem of too strong medium (relatively to the times), which affected consumers/users in many areas(music industry completely unprepared, gaming industry obviously affected but that went much better, social aspects and everything you can imagine), we are kinda living in transitional period where we can't really put any caps on this medium and every person's brain contents being spilled all over the place, likes, dislikes, perversions etc. Things that people liked to keep to themselves now became some sort of your own "business card" a way to sell your new projected image just like you sell your own image after entering new class in school. Its obvious that PR agencies would be already here since this medium was born given how it works here. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
The art of persuasive speaking I guess. I wonder what it looks like. On December 04 2012 22:40 Caihead wrote: What do you mean.... It's already commonly accepted fact that media systems and propaganda of all sorts have their own agendas and every person on the street with a loud speaker has their own personal interest or stake. We have entire professions dedicated to lying, fabricating, and defending morally offensive or harmful positions. Why not be afraid and aware of what's right in your face already. Yeah but there's a difference between someone's personal opinions/interests and them being a paid consultant. The latter you would realize everything that person said or believed was more or less faked, paid for. Knowing that this person on TL that you really like is just a paid consultant who says these things to spin the image of some company or product would be pretty depressing, wouldn't it? Its like discovering your friend at school was actually paid to be your friend by a group of people (I think that works?) And even if those people exist in many professions, I think the point was that no one was aware they could exist on internet forums too. Kind of weird to think of people being secretly paid to sound like "one of us". | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On December 04 2012 22:45 GizmoPT wrote: i bet Riot pays for guys to come to SC2 forum to say sc2 is dying Why would they? For an 0.01% increase of their playerbase if all SC2 players who are also interested in MOBA games switch to LoL? | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On December 04 2012 23:46 radscorpion9 wrote: I wonder how it works though. Are these consultants just...really good at logical arguments to prove to people why Blizzard deserve another chance? What if there aren't any good arguments? How exactly do they do their job? Maybe its just enough to have someone look like they're on Blizzard's side for people to change their opinions, but I can't see how people are that fickle with their beliefs, than when they see the one guy with his 50 accounts post in a forum, they'll change their mind and think the problem isn't as big a deal as they thought. The art of persuasive speaking I guess. I wonder what it looks like. Yeah but there's a difference between someone's personal opinions/interests and them being a paid consultant. The latter you would realize everything that person said or believed was more or less faked, paid for. Knowing that this person on TL that you really like is just a paid consultant who says these things to spin the image of some company or product would be pretty depressing, wouldn't it? Its like discovering your friend at school was actually paid to be your friend by a group of people (I think that works?) And even if those people exist in many professions, I think the point was that no one was aware they could exist on internet forums too. Kind of weird to think of people being secretly paid to sound like "one of us". You know, alot of this trust and obliviousness to obvious human nature and phenomenon that occurs in every day life isn't something that's taken for granted in the developing world. Everyone pretty much knows and understands exactly what's going on because everyone is fighting to survive and squeezing out every ounce of life that they can out of the most seemingly trivial income sources. Which is why I find it extremely hilarious that people would claim that the people of poor regions don't understand their immediate political and social situation, while they themselves remain willfully ignorant or oblivious to shit that get called out before it even happens in the poor competitive regions. . | ||
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/first_post.png) That's a pretty neat job. tbh though I don't think I've ever trusted a consensus opinion, even here on TL. When I'm digging through threads for info, I tend to look for names of people I have some level of familiarity / trust with. | ||
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MHT
Sweden1026 Posts
On December 04 2012 22:45 GizmoPT wrote: i bet Riot pays for guys to come to SC2 forum to say sc2 is dying Holy shit they would do that, wouldn't they? Problem is though most low-posts just get ignored on TL  | ||
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Psychobabas
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
I think it's a really shitty practice but I'm sure most marketing departments explain it away as a necessary evil, like misleading advertising. edit: I guess it's a logical career move for internet trolls. I mean the smart, old-school trolling not the modern style. You get to manipulate people AND you get payed for it. | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On December 04 2012 23:55 spinesheath wrote: Why would they? For an 0.01% increase of their playerbase if all SC2 players who are also interested in MOBA games switch to LoL? Because they're pushing LoL as a competitive game and SC2 is one of its competitors in that niche? Not saying that they're actually doing it, of course, but that wasn't the guy's point. | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
On December 05 2012 00:21 Redmark wrote: Because they're pushing LoL as a competitive game and SC2 is one of its competitors in that niche? Not saying that they're actually doing it, of course, but that wasn't the guy's point. not the same niche though | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
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hoby2000
United States918 Posts
I walked into this thread thinking how I was going to hate the world after I was done reading, but now I have faith in humanity again. | ||
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
SCUMBAG TLer HATES blizzard and everything they do, seeing negatives in everything .... religiously plays all their games and spends free time on web forums talking about those games. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On December 05 2012 00:45 Destro wrote: too lazy to photoshop an image but just imagine it... SCUMBAG TLer HATES blizzard and everything they do, seeing negatives in everything .... religiously plays all their games and spends free time on web forums talking about those games. Actually I'm fairly certain not that many people on TL actually play SC2 on a sustained basis. Maybe something like 20-30%? | ||
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StreetWise
United States594 Posts
On December 04 2012 20:32 Shady Sands wrote: If I am, I'm definitely not earning my keep. So what you're saying is.... you are a normal Blizzard employee. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On December 05 2012 00:53 StreetWise wrote: So what you're saying is.... you are a normal Blizzard employee. Agh dammit you caught me =( | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On December 05 2012 00:28 hoby2000 wrote: I would not be surprised if Blizzard was paying people to come on TL.net to speak well about patches and their games. In fact, I would feel a lot better knowing that this was happening because then I wouldn't have to accept that people are really that stupid. I walked into this thread thinking how I was going to hate the world after I was done reading, but now I have faith in humanity again. You have faith in humanity when people call other people that have different opinion from them stupid or being hired to be stupid? You know the chance that there are people who are hired to trashtalk on Blizzard is around the same as opposite. So now you have to be aware about people who defend Blizzard and attack Blizzard. That's terrible if you ask me. | ||
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