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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 04 2012 18:11 GMT
#81
If anyone finds some of my post supporting his cause, I am open to donations!
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 18:27:55
December 04 2012 18:11 GMT
#82
On December 05 2012 01:18 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 01:13 sabas123 wrote:
On December 04 2012 22:07 Azera wrote:
Wow this is pretty dumb. Blizzard is such an amazing company that has won many awards that proves it's prestige and honour. Blizzard will never do something like this. That scummy company Electronic Arts on the other hand, now they're something.

almost all the pre wc3 staff has been replaced right now. and those where the guys who realy made the price winnning games.


Well, if you bother to check then this is not really true. You know Rob Pardo, the man who was lead designer of BW,WC3,TFT,WoW,BC,WOTLK is working at Blizzard as vice president of game design and many other guys from their RTS team. The team that was mostly replaced is Diablo team.


Rob Pardo is just management now, he is not making games anymore.+
Actually James Phinney and Patrick Wyatt were the real masterminds behind most of the games. but they left Blizzard and founded ArenaNet (GuildWars). Mike O'Brien and Jeff Strain left Blizzard for ArenaNet too. The number of important people still working for Blizzard is short and most of them are not designing/developing games anymore, they are just PR or manager guys. Most guys of the art team are still there.
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
December 04 2012 18:31 GMT
#83
Nice featured blog Shady!
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 18:35:52
December 04 2012 18:34 GMT
#84
On December 05 2012 02:34 Torenhire wrote:
I hope he has a 2nd job if he's only making 2k/month lol

Eh, 2k a month - $24k / year - is a perfectly livable income for a single person. Not a huge income, but perfectly livable.

I'm not really paranoid about this on TL. TL has much better moderation policies than nearly all other forums, and has a recognizable core community. There's much easier forums out there to target (reddit, anyone?), where the message could potentially reach more people *AND* be easier for a hired gun to slip under the radar.

5 stars anyway. Awareness of this type of thing isn't bad at all.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 18:49:01
December 04 2012 18:46 GMT
#85
On December 05 2012 03:03 Glurkenspurk wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/user/Sixen

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Sixen

This guy is a blizz shill 99%

Jokes aside, even on Reddit he literally only posts about how cool blizzard stuff is.


I've known Sixen for a long time (10+ years); he was a Blizzard forum MVP back when the Blizzard forums were relevant. He's definitely a huge fanboy, but I don't believe he's actually on the payroll.



For a real example we've had here on TL, you guys might want to read this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1275#25487
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
December 04 2012 18:47 GMT
#86
Does blizzard do this though? Maybe they do maybe they don't. But the people that defend blizzard are too stupid to be one of these people.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
Team .SCA
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States327 Posts
December 04 2012 18:48 GMT
#87
"Is this a diner or Gestapo headquarters?"
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schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
December 04 2012 19:06 GMT
#88
Yeah man. You either have to blindly hate, blindly fanboy or be paid. Quality post, you must lead an interesting life.
Change to MY nostalgia? UNACCEPTABLE! Monkey paaaw!
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
December 04 2012 19:18 GMT
#89
Maybe Shady works for a different company to discredit blizzard by posting this.
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Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
December 04 2012 19:35 GMT
#90
On December 05 2012 03:46 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 03:03 Glurkenspurk wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/user/Sixen

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Sixen

This guy is a blizz shill 99%

Jokes aside, even on Reddit he literally only posts about how cool blizzard stuff is.


I've known Sixen for a long time (10+ years); he was a Blizzard forum MVP back when the Blizzard forums were relevant. He's definitely a huge fanboy, but I don't believe he's actually on the payroll.



For a real example we've had here on TL, you guys might want to read this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1275#25487

Thanks for posting an actual instance of this kind of practice, so people can see what it's really like.

Drop the tinfoil hat guys, I really doubt Blizzard would target TL.net to advertise their games.
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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
December 04 2012 19:44 GMT
#91
On December 05 2012 01:18 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 01:13 sabas123 wrote:
On December 04 2012 22:07 Azera wrote:
Wow this is pretty dumb. Blizzard is such an amazing company that has won many awards that proves it's prestige and honour. Blizzard will never do something like this. That scummy company Electronic Arts on the other hand, now they're something.

almost all the pre wc3 staff has been replaced right now. and those where the guys who realy made the price winnning games.


Well, if you bother to check then this is not really true. You know Rob Pardo, the man who was lead designer of BW,WC3,TFT,WoW,BC,WOTLK is working at Blizzard as vice president of game design and many other guys from their RTS team. The team that was mostly replaced is Diablo team.

ow, i thought for all the old blizz games, thanks for letting me know.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
December 04 2012 19:45 GMT
#92
On December 05 2012 03:46 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 03:03 Glurkenspurk wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/user/Sixen

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Sixen

This guy is a blizz shill 99%

Jokes aside, even on Reddit he literally only posts about how cool blizzard stuff is.


I've known Sixen for a long time (10+ years); he was a Blizzard forum MVP back when the Blizzard forums were relevant. He's definitely a huge fanboy, but I don't believe he's actually on the payroll.



For a real example we've had here on TL, you guys might want to read this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1275#25487


I don't see much of a difference if you compare the reddit posts to that shill.

Always being able to quote CM posts from the forums.. It's just odd.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
December 04 2012 19:50 GMT
#93
Not surprised in the slightest and pretty sure that if it happens anywhere, it certainly happens on TL. Where else would you go to polish up the image of any Starcraft product? I guess someone figured out that it's cheaper to convince customers that the product is good than to actually provide a good product (fuck that looser).
11 years and counting- TL #680
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
December 04 2012 19:58 GMT
#94
On December 04 2012 20:17 Shady Sands wrote:
So I was chatting with one of my friends who does social media consulting. I'll let the chatlog speak for itself

Show nested quote +
(10:40:21 PM) XXXXXX: yeah we've done contracts where we defend companies on forums
(10:40:39 PM) XXXXXX: not going to get into specifics but we get paid to do "social image consulting"
(10:40:51 PM) me: often?
(10:40:55 PM) XXXXXX: from time to time
(10:41:11 PM) me: are the rates comparable?
(10:41:17 PM) XXXXXX: well i mean running a twitterbot is super cheap
(10:41:24 PM) XXXXXX: but making and replying forum posts
(10:41:31 PM) XXXXXX: is pricey
(10:42:51 PM) XXXXXX: plus you have to set up profiles that stand more than a cursory glance
(10:42:59 PM) me: That makes sense.
(10:43:26 PM) XXXXXX: tbh i'm surprised no one knows to check
(10:43:39 PM) me: check... for what?
(10:44:02 PM) XXXXXX: people who just joined a forum and are like
(10:44:32 PM) XXXXXX: hey product X is amazing or don't bash on Y, give them some time to figure it out
(10:44:35 PM) XXXXXX: it's dumb
(10:44:47 PM) XXXXXX: all you gotta do is check the post count
(10:44:55 PM) XXXXXX: but not many companies get social media anyhow
(10:45:28 PM) XXXXXX: they just see a forum and are like
(10:45:38 PM) XXXXXX: whoa we can manage early adopter and power user impressions
(10:45:45 PM) me: how many folks do this?
(10:45:55 PM) XXXXXX: other than us? a couple, i know one guy in seatle runs fifty or so forum accounts for a large gaming company
(10:46:32 PM) me: fifty? like... fifty accounts?
(10:46:42 PM) XXXXXX: yeah
(10:46:57 PM) XXXXXX: not on one forum of course
(10:47:03 PM) XXXXXX: maybe like five


Now, as I read through the SC2 section, I notice the same people defending Blizzard again and again. Sigh.

On December 04 2012 20:34 ajxPurpleRain wrote:
Blizzard products are great! I love all them. I was thrilled to purchase Mists of Panderia, an action-panda adventure-themed game filled with excellence. Another example of their can't miss spirit will be the release of Heart of the Swarm, a top-notch thrillride strategy-player which will come at the low, low price of 40 USD. Right forum buddies?

On December 04 2012 20:43 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 20:38 EtherealDeath wrote:
You can get paid fro this? Damn, should've put my forum hogging to use.

40 per month per forum account.

So that guy in Seattle is making... 2k/month for spending all his time engaging in low-intensity flamewars and sockpuppetry


Clever plan, "Shady Sands". Have a single account for years to lay low with as your main account, create notoriety on TL with it, then expose your entire plot. You follow that by logging on another 23 post account to demonstrate how exactly you go about your devious plan, and then explain to us the simple details of salary, which I should mention was not in the original chat log. You say it vaguely, yet on another line, to put yourself far enough away from it that no one would suspect you as you further embed your forum abusing, Blizzard promoting ways into TL's impenetrable God like forum and database. Well played you scum villain.

Also, lol @ Imbatoss and Blind-Rawr
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
kukarachaa
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
December 04 2012 20:01 GMT
#95
On December 05 2012 03:06 SgtCoDFish wrote:
I can see this becoming a witchhunt thing where people who HAET BLI$$ARD LOL accuse anyone with a non-negative view of Blizz of being paid shills while smugly linking to this blog.

Based off of a chatlog with an unknown person, posted by a relatively unknown person, talking about a non-specific company that could be one of like 20-50.


Easy, you turn it around on them and accuse them of being paid by gaming companies, that are trying to bring Blizzard down.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 04 2012 20:01 GMT
#96
I don't get what people who don't think SC is amazing (and therefore Blizzard is also amazing) are doing here in the first place. I feel like this is not the type of forum that ought to be targeted by advertisers (or social media supporters, if that's what you want to call them). This is a forum for believers. Of course all the hate is evidence against that and it confuses me. I don't want TL.net to be a battlefield for deciding whether SC is good or not. The people who don't like SC should just quietly leave. Speech in the form of written messages is not the best kind of speech for improving video games anyway. Playing the game and demonstrating what you believe is the proper form of speech and Blizzard already pays close attention to that. Those who aren't able to express themselves through the game aren't qualified for the discussion. Writing their thoughts down on forums shouldn't be some kind of consolation prize that allows them to cling to relevancy.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
December 04 2012 20:03 GMT
#97
On December 05 2012 05:01 Liquid`NonY wrote:
I don't get what people who don't think SC is amazing (and therefore Blizzard is also amazing) are doing here in the first place. I feel like this is not the type of forum that ought to be targeted by advertisers (or social media supporters, if that's what you want to call them). This is a forum for believers. Of course all the hate is evidence against that and it confuses me. I don't want TL.net to be a battlefield for deciding whether SC is good or not. The people who don't like SC should just quietly leave. Speech in the form of written messages is not the best kind of speech for improving video games anyway. Playing the game and demonstrating what you believe is the proper form of speech and Blizzard already pays close attention to that. Those who aren't able to express themselves through the game aren't qualified for the discussion. Writing their thoughts down on forums shouldn't be some kind of consolation prize that allows them to cling to relevancy.

Unfortunately it is. Also, nice post.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 20:13:18
December 04 2012 20:11 GMT
#98
Of course the same people keep on defending Blizz. It's an opinion. Just because someone has a different opinion than you do doesn't mean that they're doing it for money.

I do believe that HotS has the potential to change a lot of things, but it's unrealistic to think that it will magically solve everything.

On December 05 2012 05:01 Liquid`NonY wrote:
I don't get what people who don't think SC is amazing (and therefore Blizzard is also amazing) are doing here in the first place. I feel like this is not the type of forum that ought to be targeted by advertisers (or social media supporters, if that's what you want to call them). This is a forum for believers. Of course all the hate is evidence against that and it confuses me. I don't want TL.net to be a battlefield for deciding whether SC is good or not. The people who don't like SC should just quietly leave. Speech in the form of written messages is not the best kind of speech for improving video games anyway. Playing the game and demonstrating what you believe is the proper form of speech and Blizzard already pays close attention to that. Those who aren't able to express themselves through the game aren't qualified for the discussion. Writing their thoughts down on forums shouldn't be some kind of consolation prize that allows them to cling to relevancy.

And people wonder why Blizz doesn't listen to individual people... We've already proven that we're a gigantic mess of ideas multiple times.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
December 04 2012 20:14 GMT
#99
On December 05 2012 05:01 Liquid`NonY wrote:
I don't get what people who don't think SC is amazing (and therefore Blizzard is also amazing) are doing here in the first place. I feel like this is not the type of forum that ought to be targeted by advertisers (or social media supporters, if that's what you want to call them). This is a forum for believers. Of course all the hate is evidence against that and it confuses me. I don't want TL.net to be a battlefield for deciding whether SC is good or not. The people who don't like SC should just quietly leave. Speech in the form of written messages is not the best kind of speech for improving video games anyway. Playing the game and demonstrating what you believe is the proper form of speech and Blizzard already pays close attention to that. Those who aren't able to express themselves through the game aren't qualified for the discussion. Writing their thoughts down on forums shouldn't be some kind of consolation prize that allows them to cling to relevancy.

Got here with broodwar and following the bw proscene and such. Can't really leave tl just cause i don't think blizzard or sc is amazing... TL is amazing and it's my home on the internet. And really, calling this a forum for believers and saying people who don't like sc should just leave is pretty offensive.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 04 2012 20:35 GMT
#100
On December 05 2012 05:14 nttea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 05:01 Liquid`NonY wrote:
I don't get what people who don't think SC is amazing (and therefore Blizzard is also amazing) are doing here in the first place. I feel like this is not the type of forum that ought to be targeted by advertisers (or social media supporters, if that's what you want to call them). This is a forum for believers. Of course all the hate is evidence against that and it confuses me. I don't want TL.net to be a battlefield for deciding whether SC is good or not. The people who don't like SC should just quietly leave. Speech in the form of written messages is not the best kind of speech for improving video games anyway. Playing the game and demonstrating what you believe is the proper form of speech and Blizzard already pays close attention to that. Those who aren't able to express themselves through the game aren't qualified for the discussion. Writing their thoughts down on forums shouldn't be some kind of consolation prize that allows them to cling to relevancy.

Got here with broodwar and following the bw proscene and such. Can't really leave tl just cause i don't think blizzard or sc is amazing... TL is amazing and it's my home on the internet. And really, calling this a forum for believers and saying people who don't like sc should just leave is pretty offensive.

I don't mean to say that the folks who have settled down in General and Sports & Games and Blogs and now DotA, etc, should leave TL.net if they don't love SC2. If they disapprove of the direction SC has taken, then they just won't participate in anything SC-related and that's fine.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
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