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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 21 2017 02:03 GMT
#191681
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 21 2017 02:07 GMT
#191682
On December 21 2017 11:03 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/yahoonews/status/943579419238641664

Haha, I love it when Trump swings dick on the international stage if for no other reason the reaction is always hilarious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
December 21 2017 02:12 GMT
#191683
On December 21 2017 11:07 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 11:03 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/yahoonews/status/943579419238641664

Haha, I love it when Trump swings dick on the international stage if for no other reason the reaction is always hilarious.

He's just reminding people about how small his hands are.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8073 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-21 02:15:15
December 21 2017 02:13 GMT
#191684
On December 21 2017 11:07 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 11:03 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/yahoonews/status/943579419238641664

Haha, I love it when Trump swings dick on the international stage if for no other reason the reaction is always hilarious.


Oh god you made me read the twitter replied and now I have a brain tumor

"The last 3 weekz have been his best easily. One of the best in years. He hasnt been saying dumb things on twitter and made really good policy"

"SAVAGE AF [America emoji]"

"Good. They have no right to our money"

"This is great news. Finally someone calling out global anti semitism"

Didn't think it possible, but it does seem like people are getting dumber People seriously think he's showing strength.. All he's showing is his complete lack of diplomatic skills and willingness to fuck over the world (starting with his own country) if he doesn't get what he wants.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-21 02:19:39
December 21 2017 02:19 GMT
#191685
On December 21 2017 11:13 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 11:07 xDaunt wrote:
On December 21 2017 11:03 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/yahoonews/status/943579419238641664

Haha, I love it when Trump swings dick on the international stage if for no other reason the reaction is always hilarious.


Oh god you made me read the twitter replied and now I have a brain tumor

"The last 3 weekz have been his best easily. One of the best in years. He hasnt been saying dumb things on twitter and made really good policy"

"SAVAGE AF [America emoji]"

"Good. They have no right to our money"

"This is great news. Finally someone calling out global anti semitism"

Didn't think it possible, but it does seem like people are getting dumber People seriously think he's showing strength.. All he's showing is his complete lack of diplomatic skills and willingness to fuck over the world (starting with his own country) if he doesn't get what he wants.


Last 3 weeks have been better for him though, that's true. There has been a surprising lack of WTF tweets. Does he finally have it under control? I'm curious to see how he acts in the next year. We can do strength without blowing up any more presidential norms.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 21 2017 02:37 GMT
#191686
On December 21 2017 11:12 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 11:07 xDaunt wrote:
On December 21 2017 11:03 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/yahoonews/status/943579419238641664

Haha, I love it when Trump swings dick on the international stage if for no other reason the reaction is always hilarious.

He's just reminding people about how small his hands are.


The picture even shows his small hands.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 21 2017 03:24 GMT
#191687
On December 21 2017 11:19 Introvert wrote:
Last 3 weeks have been better for him though, that's true. There has been a surprising lack of WTF tweets. Does he finally have it under control? I'm curious to see how he acts in the next year. We can do strength without blowing up any more presidential norms.

Maybe he misplaced his iPhone.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 21 2017 03:31 GMT
#191688
Three weeks coincides with his ill advised FBI tweets (including his lawyer's).
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
December 21 2017 04:20 GMT
#191689
Kelly took his phone away, obviously.
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
December 21 2017 04:21 GMT
#191690
"You literally almost tweeted yourself into a prison cell. How about you put the fucking phone down and stop being retarded Don?"
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
December 21 2017 04:58 GMT
#191691
On December 21 2017 05:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 05:33 zlefin wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:13 Emnjay808 wrote:
As someone who works 60hrs a week and only nets 40k/yr does this tax overhaul thing help me?

What in gods name do you do for a living?

why would you be surprised? it sounds like a fairly typical wage.

Yeah, it's a shitty wage and shitty hours, but $13/h is not something anyone should be surprised exists.

I work 3 jobs which all averages to about 15/hr. I have no dependents and my federal deductions are about 20% and I sometimes see it nearly double to 38% when I get bonus incentives, so it basically just cancels it out (one of my jobs is retail).

Would just be nice to see more of my pay the more I work instead of it working against me the more hours I put in. It’s really odd how taxes work like that.
Skol
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
December 21 2017 05:05 GMT
#191692
You get a refund on your bonus as its taxed st too high of s rate at the end of the year
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
December 21 2017 06:16 GMT
#191693
On December 21 2017 11:03 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/yahoonews/status/943579419238641664


That's pretty much the entire security council and something like ~90% of the countries of the world no?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10700 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-21 07:18:11
December 21 2017 07:17 GMT
#191694
Probably about every country minus Israel.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
December 21 2017 08:01 GMT
#191695
On December 21 2017 16:17 Velr wrote:
Probably about every country minus Israel.

Feel like I saw a map showing it and it had Australia siding with us, but that's the only one I noticed.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
December 21 2017 08:20 GMT
#191696


It literally would be laughable if someone praised a grown man like this if it were anyone but Trump. This is fucking ridiculous
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
December 21 2017 08:26 GMT
#191697
On December 21 2017 17:20 Lmui wrote:
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/943561615135428608

It literally would be laughable if someone praised a grown man like this if it were anyone but Trump. This is fucking ridiculous


I'm glad Trump's old and his kids lack the charisma and audacity to replace him.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
December 21 2017 10:09 GMT
#191698
While I doubt Trump would actually go through with that - given he constantly says he's going to do things but doesn't - what would the likely consequences be if he did? I'm foreign to the US and while I've always been interested in world politics I'm not much of an economist, so money matters elude me for the most part.

All I know is the US gives an awful lot in aid money to a lot of different people. If Trump did withdraw that money would that sort out the tax cuts issue, for example?

Aside the obvious attempt to bully most of the western world for daring to voice an opinion, is this smart from a purely nationalistic, protectionist perspective (which the US is clearly in right now)?
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18825 Posts
December 21 2017 12:30 GMT
#191699
On December 21 2017 19:09 iamthedave wrote:
While I doubt Trump would actually go through with that - given he constantly says he's going to do things but doesn't - what would the likely consequences be if he did? I'm foreign to the US and while I've always been interested in world politics I'm not much of an economist, so money matters elude me for the most part.

All I know is the US gives an awful lot in aid money to a lot of different people. If Trump did withdraw that money would that sort out the tax cuts issue, for example?

Aside the obvious attempt to bully most of the western world for daring to voice an opinion, is this smart from a purely nationalistic, protectionist perspective (which the US is clearly in right now)?

The US has so many assets in so many different places that play a key role in facilitating military, commercial, and industrial influence; it'd be difficult to quantify all that, but I'd wager that it's not smart, not even in a purely nationalistic sense.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
December 21 2017 12:42 GMT
#191700
On December 21 2017 19:09 iamthedave wrote:
While I doubt Trump would actually go through with that - given he constantly says he's going to do things but doesn't - what would the likely consequences be if he did? I'm foreign to the US and while I've always been interested in world politics I'm not much of an economist, so money matters elude me for the most part.

All I know is the US gives an awful lot in aid money to a lot of different people. If Trump did withdraw that money would that sort out the tax cuts issue, for example?

Aside the obvious attempt to bully most of the western world for daring to voice an opinion, is this smart from a purely nationalistic, protectionist perspective (which the US is clearly in right now)?

Total US foreign aid looks to be $51 billion. It's one third of the tax cuts (setting aside the massive problems with the tax cuts that go beyond increasing the debt).
He also probably can't withdraw much of the money, maybe he could reallocate some; much of it would be set by congressional statute, and would be unlikely to change.
US aid covers a large variety of things, so it's hard to get a full sense of what would change; basically a lot of poor countries would be mildly hurt by not having the thinsg they're currently getting. the US would lose a lot of international influence, and its alliances/friendships would be weakened.

it's smart from a pleasing his base perspective; who like this tough guy attitude.
protectionism is a bad idea; so it's hard for me to evaluate if something is smart from an inherently dumb perspective.
it's probably dumb even from that perspective.

the US has economic interests all over the world, it also has interests in peace which lets it make more profit from trade.
and projecting economic power is generally alot more efficient than projecting military power, so mostly it just guts the more effective ways of dealing with problems before they become bigger problems.
I imagine some of the US foreign aid is do-gooderism; but from a cynical perspective a lot of it is simply making markets more open/friendly to the US so the US can get more money out of them.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
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