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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 20 2017 21:22 GMT
#191641
On December 21 2017 06:19 farvacola wrote:
Compared to all the stock buybacks going on, that's chump change.

It's chump change for the fast lane fees they'll start packaging out next year.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 20 2017 21:28 GMT
#191642
On December 21 2017 06:22 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 06:19 farvacola wrote:
Compared to all the stock buybacks going on, that's chump change.

It's chump change for the fast lane fees they'll start packaging out next year.

Netflix is going to start paying in blood and passing on those costs to us. Or maybe the rest of the internet that isn’t Netflix will go super slow.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 20 2017 21:29 GMT
#191643
On December 21 2017 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 05:59 Danglars wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:13 Emnjay808 wrote:
As someone who works 60hrs a week and only nets 40k/yr does this tax overhaul thing help me?

What in gods name do you do for a living?

Seriously, this is super common. Both as a paid hourly with overtime and off-the-books only first 8 hours are paid, but you lose the job if you don’t help out after. I’ve done 50-60 hours for about that pay for most of my working life.


Christ. Make me sound like an utterly spoiled baby. I get whiny when I even approach 48 hours a week lolol. I've probably worked a 50 hour week 2 or 3 times in my (short) career.


I do 70-80 hours a week. On call for most weekends too. So my effective hourly is pretty much half what it should be (cries internally).
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
December 20 2017 21:33 GMT
#191644
On December 21 2017 06:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:59 Danglars wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:13 Emnjay808 wrote:
As someone who works 60hrs a week and only nets 40k/yr does this tax overhaul thing help me?

What in gods name do you do for a living?

Seriously, this is super common. Both as a paid hourly with overtime and off-the-books only first 8 hours are paid, but you lose the job if you don’t help out after. I’ve done 50-60 hours for about that pay for most of my working life.


Christ. Make me sound like an utterly spoiled baby. I get whiny when I even approach 48 hours a week lolol. I've probably worked a 50 hour week 2 or 3 times in my (short) career.


I do 70-80 hours a week. On call for most weekends too. So my effective hourly is pretty much half what it should be (cries internally).

On call without compensation of any sort unless you get called in should be illegal, imo.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-20 21:38:32
December 20 2017 21:36 GMT
#191645
On December 21 2017 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 06:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:59 Danglars wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:13 Emnjay808 wrote:
As someone who works 60hrs a week and only nets 40k/yr does this tax overhaul thing help me?

What in gods name do you do for a living?

Seriously, this is super common. Both as a paid hourly with overtime and off-the-books only first 8 hours are paid, but you lose the job if you don’t help out after. I’ve done 50-60 hours for about that pay for most of my working life.


Christ. Make me sound like an utterly spoiled baby. I get whiny when I even approach 48 hours a week lolol. I've probably worked a 50 hour week 2 or 3 times in my (short) career.


I do 70-80 hours a week. On call for most weekends too. So my effective hourly is pretty much half what it should be (cries internally).

On call without compensation of any sort unless you get called in should be illegal, imo.


I'm salary, so exempt from all that stuff. I'm not 'on call' in the physical sense, but I always have emails to respond to, and there's 'fire drills' for different deliverables and sometimes conference calls that end up hitting my weekend. My life is pretty much my job. Last year I was home for Christmas, but basically pounding away at work until 9pm Christmas eve, then took a break until the day after Christmas - this year will be better, though.

Dunno how weird it is, but my mentality is that is kind of what it takes to get ahead in the career. First few years are gonna be a super grind.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 20 2017 21:43 GMT
#191646
On December 21 2017 06:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 06:22 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:19 farvacola wrote:
Compared to all the stock buybacks going on, that's chump change.

It's chump change for the fast lane fees they'll start packaging out next year.

Netflix is going to start paying in blood and passing on those costs to us. Or maybe the rest of the internet that isn’t Netflix will go super slow.


Netflix already sent a price increase out.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-20 21:53:03
December 20 2017 21:44 GMT
#191647
My firm shut down remote access on the weekends because some people were responding to client emails over the weekends. This resulted all of our clients expecting everyone to do it, so we had to take it away. I feel your pain.

Some of our clients have been asking for our cell phone numbers too.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
December 20 2017 21:45 GMT
#191648
On December 21 2017 06:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:59 Danglars wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:13 Emnjay808 wrote:
As someone who works 60hrs a week and only nets 40k/yr does this tax overhaul thing help me?

What in gods name do you do for a living?

Seriously, this is super common. Both as a paid hourly with overtime and off-the-books only first 8 hours are paid, but you lose the job if you don’t help out after. I’ve done 50-60 hours for about that pay for most of my working life.


Christ. Make me sound like an utterly spoiled baby. I get whiny when I even approach 48 hours a week lolol. I've probably worked a 50 hour week 2 or 3 times in my (short) career.


I do 70-80 hours a week. On call for most weekends too. So my effective hourly is pretty much half what it should be (cries internally).

On call without compensation of any sort unless you get called in should be illegal, imo.


I'm salary, so exempt from all that stuff. I'm not 'on call' in the physical sense, but I always have emails to respond to, and there's 'fire drills' for different deliverables and sometimes conference calls that end up hitting my weekend. My life is pretty much my job. Last year I was home for Christmas, but basically pounding away at work until 9pm Christmas eve, then took a break until the day after Christmas - this year will be better, though.

Dunno how weird it is, but my mentality is that is kind of what it takes to get ahead in the career. First few years are gonna be a super grind.

That's not that weird, I legitimately enjoy working more than I'm supposed to and it'll definitely pay off. Can't post here as much though
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15727 Posts
December 20 2017 21:50 GMT
#191649
On December 21 2017 06:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:59 Danglars wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:13 Emnjay808 wrote:
As someone who works 60hrs a week and only nets 40k/yr does this tax overhaul thing help me?

What in gods name do you do for a living?

Seriously, this is super common. Both as a paid hourly with overtime and off-the-books only first 8 hours are paid, but you lose the job if you don’t help out after. I’ve done 50-60 hours for about that pay for most of my working life.


Christ. Make me sound like an utterly spoiled baby. I get whiny when I even approach 48 hours a week lolol. I've probably worked a 50 hour week 2 or 3 times in my (short) career.


I do 70-80 hours a week. On call for most weekends too. So my effective hourly is pretty much half what it should be (cries internally).

On call without compensation of any sort unless you get called in should be illegal, imo.


I'm salary, so exempt from all that stuff. I'm not 'on call' in the physical sense, but I always have emails to respond to, and there's 'fire drills' for different deliverables and sometimes conference calls that end up hitting my weekend. My life is pretty much my job. Last year I was home for Christmas, but basically pounding away at work until 9pm Christmas eve, then took a break until the day after Christmas - this year will be better, though.

Dunno how weird it is, but my mentality is that is kind of what it takes to get ahead in the career. First few years are gonna be a super grind.

What do you do for living?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 20 2017 21:54 GMT
#191650
On December 21 2017 06:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:59 Danglars wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:13 Emnjay808 wrote:
As someone who works 60hrs a week and only nets 40k/yr does this tax overhaul thing help me?

What in gods name do you do for a living?

Seriously, this is super common. Both as a paid hourly with overtime and off-the-books only first 8 hours are paid, but you lose the job if you don’t help out after. I’ve done 50-60 hours for about that pay for most of my working life.


Christ. Make me sound like an utterly spoiled baby. I get whiny when I even approach 48 hours a week lolol. I've probably worked a 50 hour week 2 or 3 times in my (short) career.


I do 70-80 hours a week. On call for most weekends too. So my effective hourly is pretty much half what it should be (cries internally).

On call without compensation of any sort unless you get called in should be illegal, imo.


I'm salary, so exempt from all that stuff. I'm not 'on call' in the physical sense, but I always have emails to respond to, and there's 'fire drills' for different deliverables and sometimes conference calls that end up hitting my weekend. My life is pretty much my job. Last year I was home for Christmas, but basically pounding away at work until 9pm Christmas eve, then took a break until the day after Christmas - this year will be better, though.

Dunno how weird it is, but my mentality is that is kind of what it takes to get ahead in the career. First few years are gonna be a super grind.

So, #2 then. Bottom-rung with future carrot .
Average means I'm better than half of you.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 20 2017 22:01 GMT
#191651
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4884 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-20 22:02:43
December 20 2017 22:02 GMT
#191652
Get in while the PR is good!



Fifth Third Bancorp will pay more than 13,500 employees a bonus and raise the minimum wage of its workforce to $15 an hour after the passage of the Republican tax plan that will cut the bank's corporate tax rate.

Fifth Third is yet another company to announce a bonus for employees because of the tax plan. AT&T said earlier Wednesday that it would pay more than 200,000 U.S. employees $1,000 each and increase its capital spending budget by $1 billion.

Wells Fargo, meanwhile, also said it would be boosting its minimum wage for employees to $15 an hour, which was prompted by the tax plan. The San Francisco-based bank also said it would target $400 million in donations to community and nonprofit organizations next year.

Cincinnati-based Fifth Third, the fifteenth largest U.S. bank by asset size, said the tax cut allowed it to re-evaluate its employee pay and pass along some of the windfall. Nearly 3,000 workers will see hourly wages rise to $15. The $1,000 one-time bonus is expected to be paid by the end of this year, the bank said, assuming President Donald Trump signs the bill into law by Christmas.

Senior managers and top executives are excluded from the special payments. "It is good for our communities, employees and Fifth Third Bank," said CEO Greg Carmichael in a statement.


https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/12/20/fifth-third-bancorp-unveils-bonuses-minimum-wage-hike-after-tax-bill-passage.html?


"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 20 2017 22:06 GMT
#191653
Glad to see everyone has adopted the tactics of the coal industry. Throw small amounts of money at charities and employees for good PR while they swim through the profits like McDuck style.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
December 20 2017 22:08 GMT
#191654
On December 21 2017 07:06 Plansix wrote:
Glad to see everyone has adopted the tactics of the coal industry. Throw small amounts of money at charities and employees for good PR while they swim through the profits like McDuck style.


it really is nice, if we put in X now nobody will notice when we take in 20 X
Something witty
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 20 2017 22:12 GMT
#191655
On December 21 2017 06:45 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 06:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:59 Danglars wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:13 Emnjay808 wrote:
As someone who works 60hrs a week and only nets 40k/yr does this tax overhaul thing help me?

What in gods name do you do for a living?

Seriously, this is super common. Both as a paid hourly with overtime and off-the-books only first 8 hours are paid, but you lose the job if you don’t help out after. I’ve done 50-60 hours for about that pay for most of my working life.


Christ. Make me sound like an utterly spoiled baby. I get whiny when I even approach 48 hours a week lolol. I've probably worked a 50 hour week 2 or 3 times in my (short) career.


I do 70-80 hours a week. On call for most weekends too. So my effective hourly is pretty much half what it should be (cries internally).

On call without compensation of any sort unless you get called in should be illegal, imo.


I'm salary, so exempt from all that stuff. I'm not 'on call' in the physical sense, but I always have emails to respond to, and there's 'fire drills' for different deliverables and sometimes conference calls that end up hitting my weekend. My life is pretty much my job. Last year I was home for Christmas, but basically pounding away at work until 9pm Christmas eve, then took a break until the day after Christmas - this year will be better, though.

Dunno how weird it is, but my mentality is that is kind of what it takes to get ahead in the career. First few years are gonna be a super grind.

That's not that weird, I legitimately enjoy working more than I'm supposed to and it'll definitely pay off. Can't post here as much though


Yeah, I've accepted I'm basically a workaholic. I like what I do.

On December 21 2017 06:50 Mohdoo wrote:
What do you do for living?


Corporate development at a healthtech "startup" (startup in the sense we grow like crazy and are taking private investment, though headcount/ rev wise we are getting up there). My team handles strategy, acquisitions, investments/ investor relations and special projects for the C-suite. I basically am part finance/ accounting, part legal, part operations and part strategy. Basically my job is to know everything about the company.

On December 21 2017 06:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:
So, #2 then. Bottom-rung with future carrot .


Pretty much! I'm lowkey hoping to be COO/CFO in maybe 10 years, assuming I stick around. Either way, I'll have a heck of a resume and good skills.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 20 2017 22:15 GMT
#191656
On December 21 2017 07:08 IyMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 07:06 Plansix wrote:
Glad to see everyone has adopted the tactics of the coal industry. Throw small amounts of money at charities and employees for good PR while they swim through the profits like McDuck style.


it really is nice, if we put in X now nobody will notice when we take in 20 X

If we give the president good PR, he will push our merger through and let us keep CNN. Democracy.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 20 2017 22:21 GMT
#191657
#HowsYour401k #S&P500

SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
December 20 2017 22:45 GMT
#191658
On December 20 2017 21:45 VHbb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2017 19:15 SoSexy wrote:
Today I check the Italian news and the main focus on US politics is Trump holding a glass with two hands. I thought we already scraped the bottom of the barrel...this is honestly pathetic. What kind of news is that?



What kind of Italian news are you checking?
I read italian news daily (being italian) but I didn't see this reported anywhere..


Sorry for the late reply - it was on the homepage of ANSA.it
Dating thread on TL LUL
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 20 2017 22:58 GMT
#191659
On December 21 2017 06:45 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 06:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:59 Danglars wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:13 Emnjay808 wrote:
As someone who works 60hrs a week and only nets 40k/yr does this tax overhaul thing help me?

What in gods name do you do for a living?

Seriously, this is super common. Both as a paid hourly with overtime and off-the-books only first 8 hours are paid, but you lose the job if you don’t help out after. I’ve done 50-60 hours for about that pay for most of my working life.


Christ. Make me sound like an utterly spoiled baby. I get whiny when I even approach 48 hours a week lolol. I've probably worked a 50 hour week 2 or 3 times in my (short) career.


I do 70-80 hours a week. On call for most weekends too. So my effective hourly is pretty much half what it should be (cries internally).

On call without compensation of any sort unless you get called in should be illegal, imo.


I'm salary, so exempt from all that stuff. I'm not 'on call' in the physical sense, but I always have emails to respond to, and there's 'fire drills' for different deliverables and sometimes conference calls that end up hitting my weekend. My life is pretty much my job. Last year I was home for Christmas, but basically pounding away at work until 9pm Christmas eve, then took a break until the day after Christmas - this year will be better, though.

Dunno how weird it is, but my mentality is that is kind of what it takes to get ahead in the career. First few years are gonna be a super grind.

That's not that weird, I legitimately enjoy working more than I'm supposed to and it'll definitely pay off. Can't post here as much though


"if you love what you do youll never work a day in your life"

"follow your dreams"
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
December 20 2017 23:02 GMT
#191660
On December 21 2017 07:58 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 06:45 farvacola wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
On December 21 2017 06:10 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:59 Danglars wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:24 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 21 2017 05:13 Emnjay808 wrote:
As someone who works 60hrs a week and only nets 40k/yr does this tax overhaul thing help me?

What in gods name do you do for a living?

Seriously, this is super common. Both as a paid hourly with overtime and off-the-books only first 8 hours are paid, but you lose the job if you don’t help out after. I’ve done 50-60 hours for about that pay for most of my working life.


Christ. Make me sound like an utterly spoiled baby. I get whiny when I even approach 48 hours a week lolol. I've probably worked a 50 hour week 2 or 3 times in my (short) career.


I do 70-80 hours a week. On call for most weekends too. So my effective hourly is pretty much half what it should be (cries internally).

On call without compensation of any sort unless you get called in should be illegal, imo.


I'm salary, so exempt from all that stuff. I'm not 'on call' in the physical sense, but I always have emails to respond to, and there's 'fire drills' for different deliverables and sometimes conference calls that end up hitting my weekend. My life is pretty much my job. Last year I was home for Christmas, but basically pounding away at work until 9pm Christmas eve, then took a break until the day after Christmas - this year will be better, though.

Dunno how weird it is, but my mentality is that is kind of what it takes to get ahead in the career. First few years are gonna be a super grind.

That's not that weird, I legitimately enjoy working more than I'm supposed to and it'll definitely pay off. Can't post here as much though


"if you love what you do youll never work a day in your life"

"follow your dreams"

I'm a sucker for the cheap thrill of illusionary prestige, what can I say?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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