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pink_disaster
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
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KwarK
United States44401 Posts
On December 09 2017 00:23 pink_disaster wrote: Who else doesn't get why there is such a big problem with what Trump said for Jerusalem? I am so embarrassed to ask, but after doing my research I still don't get it... The US is meant to be brokering the Palestinian peace process. What Trump says blows up the peace process. The alternative to the peace process is ethnic cleansing and suicide bombings. | ||
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PoulsenB
Poland7763 Posts
On December 09 2017 00:23 pink_disaster wrote: Who else doesn't get why there is such a big problem with what Trump said for Jerusalem? I am so embarrassed to ask, but after doing my research I still don't get it... I'd say that it's about how the USA recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel basically means that America accepts the exclusive Jewish claim to the city that is sacred for all Muslims (and Christians). | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On December 09 2017 00:32 PoulsenB wrote: I'd say that it's about how the USA recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel basically means that America accepts the exclusive Jewish claim to the city that is sacred for all Muslims (and Christians). And Palestinians were always balmy thinking Israel would give up the holy city. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 09 2017 00:32 PoulsenB wrote: I'd say that it's about how the USA recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel basically means that America accepts the exclusive Jewish claim to the city that is sacred for all Muslims (and Christians). Also the support of Israel has made US wildly unpopular large sections of the Middle East. There are a number of other factors, like our CIA messing with everyone over there. Russia was also knee deep in messing around in the Middle East, but suffers none of the lasting animosity. The support of Israel is like constantly rubbing salt in the wounds. The move with only strengthen anti American sentiment and distrust of us. And we get nothing out of it. Literally nothing. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
assets.documentcloud.org On January 20, 2017, Donald J. Trump was sworn in as President of the United States. Exercising their constitutional right to freedom of speech and assembly, people from all over the country took to the streets of the nation’s capital to express their disapproval of his policies. Journalists came to report on the demonstrations. Legal observers came to document any violations of the demonstrators’ legal rights. During the course of demonstrations in the District of Columbia that day, several acts of vandalism occurred. In response, the District’s Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) rounded up and arrested hundreds of people, including people who engaged in no illegal activity, by chasing them and blocking streets so as to force them into a confined area (a “kettle”) on a D.C. street corner. During the chase and then while detaining demonstrators for hours, police fired pepper spray, tear gas, and flash-bang grenades at crowds of demonstrators, journalists, and legal observers, frequently without warning or justification. In the course of the roundup and subsequent processing of demonstrators, police held detainees for hours without food, water, or access to toilets; handcuffed detainees so tightly as to cause injury or loss of feeling; and subjected some detainees to manual rectal probing. Much of MPD’s misconduct has been independently documented by the District of Columbia’s Office of Police Complaints. That is seriously seriously messed up. Actual rape of journalists, protesters and photographers rounded up during the protests is not something I really have words for. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On December 09 2017 01:20 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Lawsuit in response to treatment of journalists and protesters on inauguration day. assets.documentcloud.org That is seriously seriously messed up. Actual rape of journalists, protesters and photographers rounded up during the protests is not something I really have words for. It's pretty common for this to happen in mass protests. A few bad apples, so everybody nearby gets arrested & treated like that. People are just cattle to the police. Meat to be processed. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10979 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On December 09 2017 01:51 Velr wrote: Flash bangs are hardly normal.. Tear gas, yes. Pepper spray, maybe... Flashbangs? Wtf My roommate has been subjected to all three by police here in Portland, I don't think its all that uncommon. Its really messed up imo. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9071 Posts
On December 09 2017 01:40 a_flayer wrote: It's pretty common for this to happen in mass protests. A few bad apples, so everybody nearby gets arrested & treated like that. People are just cattle to the police. Meat to be processed. Far from normal in the US to be probed without consent and flash banged. | ||
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urmomdresslikafloozy
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NSFW: Will white people riot? | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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GreenHorizons
United States24455 Posts
On December 09 2017 02:00 urmomdresslikafloozy wrote: Body cam footage has been released showing the fatal police shooting of 26-year-old Daniel Shaver. Police were called to a hotel in Mesa, Arizona, in 2016 after a report of someone pointing a gun out of a window. Shaver, however, was unarmed. The officer, Philip Brailsford, was found not guilty of 2nd degree murder. NSFW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62Va6Ft2cw Will white people riot? Probably not, but they probably won't do anything about murderous cops either. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9071 Posts
On December 09 2017 02:00 urmomdresslikafloozy wrote: Body cam footage has been released showing the fatal police shooting of 26-year-old Daniel Shaver. Police were called to a hotel in Mesa, Arizona, in 2016 after a report of someone pointing a gun out of a window. Shaver, however, was unarmed. The officer, Philip Brailsford, was found not guilty of 2nd degree murder. NSFW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62Va6Ft2cw Will white people riot? They should. But won't. Everyone should rally behind this. But they won't. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10021 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 09 2017 02:00 urmomdresslikafloozy wrote: Body cam footage has been released showing the fatal police shooting of 26-year-old Daniel Shaver. Police were called to a hotel in Mesa, Arizona, in 2016 after a report of someone pointing a gun out of a window. Shaver, however, was unarmed. The officer, Philip Brailsford, was found not guilty of 2nd degree murder. NSFW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62Va6Ft2cw Will white people riot? White people are shit a protesting. So shit that they whine about how good black people are at it. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12610 Posts
On December 09 2017 02:11 Jockmcplop wrote: Maybe if the US could get a grip of their huge gun problem (remember the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem) their cops wouldn't be so fucking paranoid every time they can't see ten fingers. I don't disagree with you in a general sense for America but this specific interaction had little to do with paranoia, that was a power trip. "Crawl toward me"? Nobody rational watches this video and thinks the cop feels threatened here. Disgusting. | ||
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