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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14203 Posts
December 08 2017 00:18 GMT
#189261
On December 08 2017 08:46 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2017 08:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

I don't get it.

When your entire life turns into a public event someone learns to value private time with no one else around but the people you wanne be with.

As a show about the weather in Pennsylvania once said. Its about the implication.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22552 Posts
December 08 2017 00:23 GMT
#189262
On December 08 2017 09:18 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2017 08:46 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 08 2017 08:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/938893196448452608

I don't get it.

When your entire life turns into a public event someone learns to value private time with no one else around but the people you wanne be with.

As a show about the weather in Pennsylvania once said. Its about the implication.

The implication that someone living in the public eye wants some privacy?

Oh right you mean the not present implication that family doesn't include Donald and a deserted island is the only way to get away from his groping hands.

No.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 08 2017 01:41 GMT
#189263
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 08 2017 02:19 GMT
#189264
Trent Frank's reason for resigning is uh, weird. The handmaid's tale comparisons are endless. (He asked his underlings to be a surrogate for pregnancy).

Earlier today, news broke that Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) is resigning from Congress at the end of January. After it was reported that this was coming in the wake of rumors of inappropriate behavior, it was revealed that Franks was being investigated by the House Ethics Committee over “credible claims of misconduct,” as described by Speaker of the House Paul Ryan.

Franks released his own statement claiming that he was being investigated because he approached two female staffers about the possibility of serving as a surrogate to his child. While he acknowledged that the discussion made the women uncomfortable and that he deeply regretted it, he also stated that it was the inability for his wife to conceive that led him down the path of speaking insensitively on the matter with others.

The Republican lawmaker concluded that he would be “unable to complete a fair House Ethics investigation before distorted and sensationalized versions of this story would put me, my family, my staff, and my noble colleagues in the House of Representatives through hyperbolized public excoriation.” Therefore, the way he put it, his only choice was to resign.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 08 2017 02:21 GMT
#189265
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
December 08 2017 02:30 GMT
#189266
Looks like Trump needs a crisis to raise his numbers...
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 08 2017 02:41 GMT
#189267
Trump's numbers are remarkably flat. I actually don't think a crisis will raise his numbers for a few reasons. One, he doesn't have a very good track record of responding to them anyways. Two, the main thing they seem to do is draw attention to politics when people are fairly uninterested - thus the spikiness of the polls. Most people only paid attention to politics if things were going really poorly until recently.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
December 08 2017 03:42 GMT
#189268
A comment to that tweet sums it up best: at first glance his numbers look really low, but on second thought they're actually still really high. It's still 1/3 of all people polled that support him, after seemingly working to do the worst job possible. That's a lot of people who still don't get it.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-08 04:09:14
December 08 2017 04:03 GMT
#189269
On December 08 2017 07:57 Plansix wrote:


The man rivals Trump for his ability to dog whistle. America was great when we had slavery.


And yet conservatives will tell you this man is not racist. They would also deny that he's referring to the present state of black families in comparison to the slavery era.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 08 2017 05:06 GMT
#189270
The Justice Department is moving to investigate Planned Parenthood over the organization's fetal tissue practices, according to a letter sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday.

In the letter obtained by The Hill, the department requests unredacted documents from the panel's 2016 probe into Planned Parenthood over claims that the organization profited off the transfer of tissue and body parts from aborted fetuses to research firms.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), who chairs the committee, referred Planned Parenthood to the FBI last December, saying at the time that his committee had uncovered enough evidence for the FBI to investigate the claims.

The Hill reported last month that the FBI had asked the Senate for documents it obtained from abortion providers, signaling that agents may be investigating the organization.

The Hill
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
December 08 2017 05:10 GMT
#189271
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
December 08 2017 05:40 GMT
#189272
Oh, I so look forward to Republicans hitching their star to yet another shitty excuse for a human being, as Democrats continue showing them up by actually holding their party's representatives to things called moral standards. Please, nominate a rampant, unlawful racist to go with your racist child molester. It'll be like peanut butter and chocolate.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Kyadytim
Profile Joined March 2009
United States886 Posts
December 08 2017 06:18 GMT
#189273
On December 08 2017 14:40 NewSunshine wrote:
Oh, I so look forward to Republicans hitching their star to yet another shitty excuse for a human being, as Democrats continue showing them up by actually holding their party's representatives to things called moral standards. Please, nominate a rampant, unlawful racist to go with your unlawful racist child molester. It'll be like peanut butter and chocolate.

Fixed that for you. It kind of got buried under the hitting on teenagers issue, but Moore was kicked off the bench twice for ignoring the law.


Huh. If Arpaio does somehow get elected to the Senate, I think the unifying trait of Republican candidates in the future might be flagrant disregard for the law when they don't like it.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 08 2017 10:24 GMT
#189274
Wildfires blazing through California have entered the heart of Los Angeles as authorities warned of an “extreme fire danger” across the city.

Firefighters in the affluent Bel-Air neighbourhood battled to save multimillion-dollar estates in the path of the flames, which have destroyed homes near the Getty museum in America’s second largest city.

Video and photographs posted on social media showed hillsides above busy roads covered in flames, rows of houses reduced to ash, and firefighters spraying water on walls of fire.

The largest blaze, the Thomas fire, has covered more than 95,000 acres, destroying more than 150 homes and threatening thousands more in Ventura, about 50 miles (80 km) north-west of Los Angeles.

A woman was found dead after a car crash in an area under an evacuation order, the authorities said on Thursday.

With winds forecast to reach 80mph, officials have warned the worst could be yet to come.

An alert sent by the countrywide emergency system in Los Angeles said: “Strong winds overnight creating extreme fire danger.”

The fear is that the winds, blowing westward from the California desert, could stoke several blazes burning in the Los Angeles area that have already forced an estimated 200,000 people to evacuate.

“We are in the beginning of a protracted wind event,” Ken Pimlott, the director of the California department of forestry and fire protection, told the Los Angeles Times. “There will be no ability to fight fire in these kinds of winds.”

The Skirball fire, which erupted early on Wednesday, burned about 500 acres near large estates in Bel-Air, scorching part of a winery owned by Rupert Murdoch.

It erupted before dawn in the Sepulveda Pass, just up Interstate 405 from UCLA (University of California, Los Angeles), which cancelled classes for the rest of the day.

The Los Angeles Unified school district, the country’s second largest with more than 640,000 students, said it closed at least 265 of its nearly 1,100 schools on Thursday.

Dozens of schools were also closed in Ventura County. The school district, with nearly 17,000 students, said it hoped to reopen on Monday. In the city of Ventura, along the coast, where hundreds of structures were destroyed, blazes also killed more than two dozen horses at a stable.

The deputy fire chief, Charles Butler, said firefighters and aircraft had stopped the spread of the blaze in Bel-Air and were attempting to contain it before the winds returned.

He said four homes had been destroyed and 11 damaged, while about 700 properties, an apartment building and a school had been ordered to evacuate. Paris Hilton was among those who said they had fled the fire.

The Los Angeles mayor declared a local state of emergency on Wednesday morning because of the Skirball fire. Eric Garcetti told a news conference: “These are days that break your heart. These are also days that show the resilience of our city.”

In the San Fernando Valley, north of Los Angeles, the Creek fire destroyed at least 30 homes, blackened more than 12,000 acres and forced the evacuation of 2,500 homes and a convalescent centre.

Another fire, known as the Rye, threatened more than 5,000 homes and structures north-west of Los Angeles.

According to the LA Times, the LAPD have asked people to avoid using navigation apps on their phones because drivers were being directed towards open roads that were traffic-free because they were on fire.

Footage of a man appearing to coax a rabbit out of the fires near La Conchita on Wednesday night went viral on social media.

Three firefighters were injured and said to be in a stable condition in hospital, the Los Angeles fire department said.

South of Los Angeles, authorities also ordered evacuations in parts of San Diego County, closer to the Mexico border. In the rural community of Bonsall, more than a dozen structures were damaged or destroyed.

In a small evacuated community called Faria Beach, some residents were staying in place.

Joseph Ruffner, a resident who left earlier in the week and recently returned, told the Associated Press that he wasn’t going to evacuate again.

“This morning there was a wall of fire back right over here,” he said. “I didn’t think it was no big deal, but it’s coming back to burn what it didn’t burn yesterday.”


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 08 2017 11:49 GMT
#189275


Another friend to thugs and dictators.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8182 Posts
December 08 2017 11:51 GMT
#189276
On December 08 2017 12:42 NewSunshine wrote:
A comment to that tweet sums it up best: at first glance his numbers look really low, but on second thought they're actually still really high. It's still 1/3 of all people polled that support him, after seemingly working to do the worst job possible. That's a lot of people who still don't get it.

I think the reason Trump is so remarkably stable in approval rating is that everyone who can potentially hate his guts hates his guts. It just happens that for 30% people, disapproving a R-president is simply not an option. If Trump was a goat, they would still approve him.

It’s fair to say that Trump’s first year is one of the biggest train wreck of recent political history. No one with a clear judgment can pretend he is the right guy for the job.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-08 11:56:38
December 08 2017 11:56 GMT
#189277
On December 08 2017 13:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2017 07:57 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/Eugene_Scott/status/938873902369067008

The man rivals Trump for his ability to dog whistle. America was great when we had slavery.


And yet conservatives will tell you this man is not racist. They would also deny that he's referring to the present state of black families in comparison to the slavery era.


This will give him a bump in the Polls.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 08 2017 14:10 GMT
#189278
Apparently there is a push to make all the money donated to Super PACs and funneled to elections tax deductable in the new tax bill. Tax cuts for billionaires to dump money into securing more tax cuts.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 08 2017 14:55 GMT
#189279
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-08 15:05:31
December 08 2017 15:05 GMT
#189280
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