US Politics Mega-thread - Page 9154

On November 05 2017 08:57 Plansix wrote:
The DNC done fucked up and just gotta cop to that shit. It's almost 2018. We don't got time to litigate this shit during the mid terms.

On November 05 2017 09:12 xDaunt wrote:

I really don’t get the amount of Democrat opposition to throwing Hillary under the bus. It doesn’t make sense on any level — particularly what is best for the Left going forward.

On November 05 2017 08:48 GreenHorizons wrote:


lol

You brought up Donna's claims about replacing Hillary and got all ornery about it, but are now ignoring what Donna was saying is perfectly within the (2) rules of the DNC and the DNC even argued it was their right to do it in court and [b (1) ]you were fine with it then.

also



EDIT: @Danglars I saw you condemn that dumbass judge and I appreciate it, you'd really impress me if you brought something like that to our attention on your own occasionally.

On November 05 2017 09:12 xDaunt wrote:

I really don’t get the amount of Democrat opposition to throwing Hillary under the bus. It doesn’t make sense on any level — particularly what is best for the Left going forward.

On November 05 2017 09:18 Wulfey_LA wrote:


(1) Totally false. You are trying to make up stuff to win an argument where you don't have any facts to prove your case. When I say that you don't have evidence of rigging, that is not an endorsement of rigging. However, Donna's fantasies of overturning the election would be the ultimate in rigging and would consistent actual evidence that the Democratic primary was rigged if she tried it (but not at all in the way you mean it was rigged).

(2) No, Donna's fantasies were not in the rules and I noted that in my EDIT3. A candidate would have to agree to the replacement, be dead, and/or be in a coma. HRC's pneumonia was insufficient to meet those conditions. I was arguing that both her fantasies of overturning the election were wrong, and that her fantasies of such power were just fantasies. A liar can be criticized both for his lie and the act of lying.

Look, we're gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way. That's not the way it was done. But they could have. And that would have also been their right

On November 05 2017 09:12 xDaunt wrote:

I really don’t get the amount of Democrat opposition to throwing Hillary under the bus. It doesn’t make sense on any level — particularly what is best for the Left going forward.

On November 05 2017 09:23 biology]major wrote:


I don't get it either, whats so hard about admitting that crooked hillary is possibly the most honest thing trump has said? This thread though repeatedly shows examples of people downplaying the flaws of their favs. "no she didn't"--> "eh it's not that bad" --> "so what everyone does it" --> "trump sucks". the right does the same shit too.

On November 05 2017 09:27 Plansix wrote:

The DNC is really to blame for giving her that sweet heart deal. I don't blame her for asking.

On November 05 2017 08:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
EDIT: @Danglars I saw you condemn that dumbass judge and I appreciate it, you'd really impress me if you brought something like that to our attention on your own occasionally.

On November 05 2017 09:49 Danglars wrote:

I read the story like a week ago and I thought it was so obvious to not be of general interest. If you pay me, I might be interested in being the one to bring stories like that to your attention. Otherwise, you're just that guy that calls people white supremacists (or was it *some aspects of white supremacy*) for kicks.

OPEN LETTER FROM HILLARY FOR AMERICA 2016 TEAM

We were shocked to learn the news that Donna Brazile actively considered overturning the will of the Democratic voters by attempting to replace Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine as the Democratic Presidential and Vice Presidential nominees. It is particularly troubling and puzzling that she would seemingly buy into false Russian-fueled propaganda, spread by both the Russians and our opponent, about our candidate’s health.
Donna came in to take over the DNC at a very difficult time. We were grateful to her for doing so. She is a longtime friend and colleague of many of us and has been an important leader in our party. But we do not recognize the campaign she portrays in the book.
The 2016 presidential campaign was unlike any in our history. It was very difficult for our candidates and our staff. We are very proud that throughout the campaign and the aftermath the staff stuck together, worked as a team, and did the best we could for both Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine. We did this for the simple reason that we thought Hillary Clinton would make the best President for the country we all love. We have now, as we did throughout the campaign, enormous love and pride for our candidate, Hillary Clinton. She, more than any of us, persevered through an incredibly difficult campaign and her commitment and stamina inspired us every day. We are very proud of the effort she and the campaign made in both the primary and the general election.
The general election loss was devastating for us all and something we live with every day. And while frustrating that the general election vote total did not change the outcome of the election, we remain proud that Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine received nearly 3 million more votes in the general election than their opponents.
Finally, we are pretty tired of people who were not part of our campaign telling the world what it was like to be on the inside of our campaign and how we felt about it. We loved our candidate and each other and it remains our honor to have been part of the effort to make Hillary Clinton the 45th President of the United States.
All Democrats should be doing everything they can — canvassing, phone banking, etc. — to help our candidates for Governor of Virginia and New Jersey and the other races around the country next Tuesday.

On November 05 2017 09:55 GreenHorizons wrote:


No, I say you advocate and defend white supremacy because you advocate and defend white supremacy. You think he will be impeached?

On November 05 2017 10:00 Danglars wrote:

Yeah, what I said. You're the guy that gets his kicks from calling other people white supremacists. I think your comprehension and analysis on the topic of race is ass-backwards and morally and intellectually bankrupt. But you probably already know the gist of my opinion on that.

I'm not familiar enough with Louisiana state politics to know if it's likely. It was a 6-1 decision. I certainly hope they're impeached. I hope, failing that, they're at least censured.

On November 05 2017 06:36 Danglars wrote:

Likewise, the rest of the world and most of the United States doesn't grasp what the US would be if political business-as-usual continued. Trump is a tragedy. Calling Trump a white supremacist as with his voters and half the country is Act 1 & 2. I really hope we can resolve the Republican interparty issues and Republican vs Democrat political rancor sooner rather than later. It doesn't please me to see a buffoon on the world stage, however much people leap to use it to justify Chinese international benevolence vs sinister American white supremacy.

If wish you could see that the foundation for Trump winning was an inherently rational process. oBlade detailed the rational reasons why. The Flight 93 election, which is really mandatory reading for understanding conservatism vs Trump/Trumpism, is a very rational thought process. You might not see it for a number of years. I want American success and longevity, but that doesn't work with a disconnected Washington elite, unrepresentative Republican party, or radically racialized political atmosphere. Trump's properly seen as the symptom to a problem that maybe a Norwegian like yourself wouldn't recognize. For all his chaos, he might even been step one to the solution.

On November 05 2017 10:04 GreenHorizons wrote:


Which do you think I would prefer: Calling out people when they advocate white supremacy or not having white supremacy?

I do it because I have to, not because I want to.

Hope in one hand...

On November 05 2017 10:14 Danglars wrote:

What you talk about is a straightforward progression. If you have the kind of ass-backwards understanding on racial politics that you profess, of course you're gonna go around calling everybody and their mom white supremacists. It's baked into your worldview. I'm tongue-in-cheek when I say that's how you get your kicks. If you were here in California, I'd take my friends from South LA and have them try to understand how you get to where you're at ideologically. You gave me cause to solicit their political opinions (we don't really talk politics) a while back in the thread if you remember, and they just assumed you were a young college-age guy that needs a girl and a job. I don't know anything about where you're at in life or how you go through life with these disgusting opinions about white people, but I think it would be interesting if that conversation were possible.