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Velr
Switzerland10989 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22703 Posts
No oppression in the last 100 years? Wasn't the African American civil rights movements some 50 years ago? If your going to make an ignorant racist statement to the public atleast gets your basic dates rights. | ||
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oBlade
United States6678 Posts
On October 11 2017 01:40 RealityIsKing wrote: The Republican party is essentially dead at this point to be honest. Trump's message is different than the Republican swamp and they are too lazy, corrupt, and petty to progress the party. Trump/Bannon one-two punch will either totally revamp the Republican party or form their own. Exciting times ahead of us. Mostly the plan is to primary out people who still won't get on board. Neither of those two has the inclination or need to make a new party, especially Trump as he's already risen to the top, he realized third party was a dead end in 2000 with the Reform Party, and anyway he'll be too old after leaving office. It's easier to make a conservative party by realigning the GOP to what it pretends to stand for already than to start from scratch. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On October 11 2017 01:56 RealityIsKing wrote: No prove to any of that. Jobs are up, China is finally doing something about NK, finally putting nationalism back on the agenda. Just curious, what exactly is China doing about North Korea? I just looked through various reputable news source and haven't read anything particularily new. Mostly China is asking Trump to be quiet. | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On October 11 2017 01:56 RealityIsKing wrote: No prove to any of that. Jobs are up, China is finally doing something about NK, finally putting nationalism back on the agenda. oh yeah THANK GOD nationalism is back on the agenda. I missed it so much what with all the good it does for the world. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On October 11 2017 02:21 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Just curious, what exactly is China doing about North Korea? I just looked through various reputable news source and haven't read anything particularily new. Mostly China is asking Trump to be quiet. They put a embargo on coal imports I think | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
And don't enforce it one bit. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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KwarK
United States44440 Posts
Meanwhile Russia openly flaunts the sanctions. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-russian-smuggling-north-korea-sanctions-20170911-story.html | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 11 2017 02:39 Nyxisto wrote: I have the feeling twitter tolerates this because they've still not found a way to be profitable and are desperate for the numbers, which is just bad They are the greatest propaganda tool anyone could have asked for. An easily gamed system that allows misinformation to exist alongside real news reporting. I don’t see a big future for crowd sourcing as a replacement for real curation going forward. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 11 2017 02:20 oBlade wrote: Mostly the plan is to primary out people who still won't get on board. Neither of those two has the inclination or need to make a new party, especially Trump as he's already risen to the top, he realized third party was a dead end in 2000 with the Reform Party, and anyway he'll be too old after leaving office. It's easier to make a conservative party by realigning the GOP to what it pretends to stand for already than to start from scratch. Realign the GOP to what it pretends to stand for to represent a base it pretends it really has. The memo's getting out that their last "party leadership" supporters represent some portion of corporations that want lower corporate rates and cheap immigrant labor, and those guys that are fooled by the campaign slogan that says they'll stop the evil Democrats from bulldozing religious liberties and jacking up their taxes & insurance premiums. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 11 2017 03:24 Nyxisto wrote: will be interesting to see if the US in the future changes the relaxed position on free expression when it will become apparent that bots and propaganda are very directly manipulating the discourse on large internet platforms. It's one thing when controversial or hate-speech statements come from individual humans, but when it's overwhelmingly machines it'll become hard to defend even by US standards. The freedom of speech argument needs to shift to the quality of discourse. Before we had all human contact pumped into our home by fiber optics, speech was sort of limited by reach and volume. That has changed and the argument around its needs to change too. Social media created common spaces were masses of people can yell racial slurs at black people, but somehow it is the users job to block each and every one of those people. Or root through the ever changing default settings of the social media services to change who can send them things. Only on the internet can you sign into service, have another user yell racial slurs at you using that service and have the service provider go “that’s your problem to deal with.” The same with election finance and “Money is speech.” We have seen what unlimited money being dumped into elections does. It doesn’t change people’s minds, but it sure makes elections awful events that most Americans said stressed them out for months. It makes elections suck with no real benefit to the public. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On October 11 2017 03:24 Nyxisto wrote: will be interesting to see if the US in the future changes the relaxed position on free expression when it will become apparent that bots and propaganda are very directly manipulating the discourse on large internet platforms. It's one thing when controversial or hate-speech statements come from individual humans, but when it's overwhelmingly machines it'll become hard to defend even by US standards. We already regulate mass electronic robotic communications (albeit very weakly), it's just for a different protocol: e-mail. The principles don't apply to a platform like Twitter though because users are opting into the comments they see on Twitter (more or less) rather than having them foisted upon themselves unsolicited. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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