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Plansix
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 11 2017 00:33 Mohdoo wrote: I wonder what he'll actually change. The ACA is somewhat of a hostage situation at this point. Repealing any of the juicy stuff will have hugely negative consequences that Trump and the GOP would be forced to take ownership of. We are not a country that values short term suffering for long term gain. All it takes is 1 month of things being worse than the month before and people are going to have an easy time saying Trump made healthcare worse. This also plays really well for democrat long term strategy. The GOP is really well served by being able to talk about how much good they COULD do, and it gets them a lot of votes, but being able to see this rhetoric pan out will be really bad. Trump using executive orders (suddenly republicans aren't triggered rofl) and not making things much better other than symbolizing some kinda "less government is now occurring! Hooray!" will be big for AARP and similar groups. If old folks are getting less money, this braindead voting group will vote for whoever says they will get more money. He won't change anything, he'll just withhold funding and "watch Obamacare destroy itself." He's already shown willingness to do this even when withholding funding directly costs the federal government more than it saves and does nothing besides hurt people. The only thing that stopped that was distracting him with shiny objects, I think. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 10 2017 09:42 CorsairHero wrote: Youtube is pretty garbage too. Monetizing Jimmy Kimmel's videos on the Las Vegas shooting when they said they wouldn't. Hollywood elite is real. There was a response to this. Youtube was showing ads approved by ABC, who worked out the ad deal. They were not allowed to show ads on any other changes because their ad provided prohibited it. And then youtube totally flubbed the message. So basically there are white listed channels that can have ads shown because they are related to major networks that work out the ad deals in advance. The rest of the youtube market has to bow to their overlord, youtube and ad sense. Wild west no longer. Now ad providers give a shit about where their ads are shown. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
This is some dumb political posturing. Insurance is regulated by the state insurance commissions. An insurer literally can't base a plan on standards in one state and hope to sell that plan in CA or somewhere where standards are higher, because CA's insurance commissioner will just slap that shit down. | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On October 11 2017 01:28 ticklishmusic wrote: https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/917785230987153408 This is some dumb political posturing. Insurance is regulated by the state insurance commissions. An insurer literally can't base a plan on standards in one state and hope to sell that plan in CA or somewhere where standards are higher, because CA's insurance commissioner will just slap that shit down. Ya this isnt going to work out well Everyone will be out of network :/ | ||
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Plansix
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Nevuk
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I think that you have to be color blind in this country. Have you got to look at a person for what he is and what he stands for. And how he produces. All of a sudden it’s become a big dealing now about oppression. There has been no oppression in the last 100 years that I know of. I don’t care who you are, how much money you make. If you don’t respect our country, then you shouldn’t be in this country playing football. Go to another country and play football. If you can’t respect the flag and the country, then you don’t respect what this is all about. So I would say adios. westwoodonesports.com | ||
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RealityIsKing
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Trump's message is different than the Republican swamp and they are too lazy, corrupt, and petty to progress the party. Trump/Bannon one-two punch will either totally revamp the Republican party or form their own. Exciting times ahead of us. | ||
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Velr
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
And this is why football coaches shouldn't teach civics. | ||
KwarK
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 11 2017 01:42 Velr wrote: Time to watch that ultracringy football film with denzel washington as the coach again? Best part of that film is when he comes out the door with the shotgun after someone throws a brick through his window. Kid I went to college with said "Now that a southern black man. You don't see those in movies a lot." when it happened. He was from Alabama. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On October 11 2017 01:40 RealityIsKing wrote: The Republican party is essentially dead at this point to be honest. Trump's message is different than the Republican swamp and they are too lazy, corrupt, and petty to progress the party. Trump/Bannon one-two punch will either totally revamp the Republican party or form their own. Exciting times ahead of us. trump's message is even swampier and more corrupt than the regular republicans. in addition to being incoherent and trash. i'd prefer unexciting times. trump and bannon aren't capable of forming a party, nor capable of attracting competent people, so I don't see them pulling that off. | ||
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RealityIsKing
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On October 11 2017 01:52 zlefin wrote: trump's message is even swampier and more corrupt than the regular republicans. in addition to being incoherent and trash. i'd prefer unexciting times. No prove to any of that. Jobs are up, China is finally doing something about NK, finally putting nationalism back on the agenda. | ||
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Velr
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On October 11 2017 01:58 Velr wrote: Jobs actually just went down, because of the floods/hurricanes but hey, who needs facts. While I don't think jobs are up because of trump (They have been going up for many years now) I don't think its fair to point out jobs are down right now precisely because of the floods/hurricanes. They will be back up again soon so there is no point to look at last month as really any indicator. | ||
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KwarK
United States44440 Posts
On October 11 2017 02:02 IyMoon wrote: While I don't think jobs are up because of trump (They have been going up for many years now) I don't think its fair to point out jobs are down right now precisely because of the floods/hurricanes. They will be back up again soon so there is no point to look at last month as really any indicator. Given RiK's whole spiel about how he is the one true objectivist while posting nothing but nonsense I think it's fair to point out that jobs aren't actually up. For what it's worth NK's nuclear testing has actually accelerated while Trump has been in office and, for all his rhetoric, he has done nothing to slow them down. There is no possible reading of the NK situation that says things are better now than they were a year ago. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On October 11 2017 01:56 RealityIsKing wrote: No prove to any of that. Jobs are up, China is finally doing something about NK, finally putting nationalism back on the agenda. jobs are up because they were going up under obama, and it continued coasting under trump; it had little to do with trump, and mostly was just abotu the economy being in decent shape. And there's TONS of proof that trump and associates are more corrupt than usual republicans; or at least are very corrupt in general, so you claiming there isn't is just complete nonsense. we'll see if china actually does something (and if they do, it's because it's their own interest, still not anything because of trump) nationalism is just plain dumb, so if you're promoting that, well, I eyeroll at that nonsense. unless you've got something to substantiate oyur point, i'll assume it's the usual drivel that's ignoring reality. You really shouldn't name yourself such when you make ignoring reality a key part of what you do. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 11 2017 01:52 zlefin wrote: trump's message is even swampier and more corrupt than the regular republicans. in addition to being incoherent and trash. i'd prefer unexciting times. trump and bannon aren't capable of forming a party, nor capable of attracting competent people, so I don't see them pulling that off. I was listening to a podcast about the new Wolfenstein game and the one before it. At one point they talked about how it depicts Nazis has these hyper capable group that dealt with industrialization with cold efficiency. One of the folks on the podcast happens to be a big history buff and pointed out how far that depiction was from the truth. That a huge number of Nazis were failures at life and the only way they got ahead was in a super corrupt goverment like the Nazi regime. That there were a few bright points in the Nazi order, but most of them were just unrepentant ass kissers who just wanted promotions and power. That the villain from Rogue One was likely the most accurate depiction of the typical Nazi. Willing to murder billions just to get a promotion. As the history buff put it: "Those mother fuckers were never making it across the ocean to America." The parallels between that and the Bannon/breitbart/alt-right camp is not lost either. From the Milo troll squad to the dumb asses to cried after arrest warrants were issued, these folks are not the brightest or the best at anything. Most of them are failures at all things but trying to tear down other people. And they are great at attacking people who are smarter, more principled and better than them. They stand for nothing but their own personal power and enrichment. The racism and culture wars are just a means to an end. The scary part is how effective they are at using it. But they have been provided with new, powerful tools like facebook, google news feed and twitter to pump that message. | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On October 11 2017 02:05 KwarK wrote: Given RiK's whole spiel about how he is the one true objectivist while posting nothing but nonsense I think it's fair to point out that jobs aren't actually up. Sure, they are down right now, but we all know they are down for reasons outside of anyones control and they will be back up again. RiK shit post a lot but let's be better than him! #betterthanRiKshitpost | ||
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