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Video shows Utah police fatally shooting man from behind as he fled

Police in Utah fatally shot a man from behind while he was running away from officers, according to newly released footage, which has sparked accusations of racial profiling and a “brutal execution”.

Prosecutors in Salt Lake City have said officers were justified in killing Patrick Harmon, 50, who was pulled over for riding a bicycle without a light and who attempted to flee when police tried to arrest him. Police are not facing charges despite the fact that the body-camera footage captured officer Clinton Fox shouting “I’ll fucking shoot you!” from a distance before he fired three bullets into Harmon, who was running in the opposite direction.

Salt Lake officials have claimed that the killing of Harmon was legal because the officers feared for their lives, even though the video, released to local media, revealed that Harmon was not advancing toward them. Another officer said he fired his Taser at the same time that Fox shot Harmon. The footage showed the officers handcuffing Harmon as he laid on the ground face-down, groaning in pain.

The district attorney’s office claimed that Harmon said “I’ll cut you” and turned and faced officers with a knife as he was running. The video, however, raises questions about the narrative. Harmon cannot be heard making that threat and was running away from the officer, not facing him, when he was killed.

On October 06 2017 08:00 Nevuk wrote:
I can understand when the complaint is over terminology : ie banning "assault weapons" but having non-assault weapons in the ban list.

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher

On October 06 2017 07:51 Wulfey_LA wrote:


Why do you fall for lies? Did you click through? That guy doesn't have a link. Here is a CNN article about bump stocks. Look at the image.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/05/smallbusiness/bump-fire-stocks/index.html

+ Show Spoiler +

Further, of all the shit arguments against gun control, the fake outrage over non-gun people not getting gun part definitions right has to be a top 3 shit argument. "Some lib somewhere didn't get detail XXX right on a gun, therefore no gun control!"

On October 06 2017 23:14 Danglars wrote:

https://youtu.be/SsMk9ZGseUY

I’m in luck!

On October 06 2017 23:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

You know the difference between incompetence and fake news or not at all?

I'll try to show you. Fake news is something like that:

https://twitter.com/broderick/status/914840232767447041
Mixing up guns because you have no idea and can't be bothered to do your job properly is not.

Now stop insulting our intelligence, kthx.

On October 06 2017 23:14 Danglars wrote:

https://youtu.be/SsMk9ZGseUY

I’m in luck!

On October 06 2017 23:43 Danglars wrote:

Broke: You're lying about CNN messing up their image of a bump stock.
Woke: You didn't lie and didn't call it fake news, but you criticized it, which means you thought it was fake news, which means I can criticize you because it isn't really fake news! Haha!

It lets you say "stop insulting our intelligence" and furthermore, no retraction/apology on "you fall for lies" from Wulfey, Gahlo, crms (I'm open to being surprised, though).

On October 06 2017 23:43 Danglars wrote:

Broke: You're lying about CNN messing up their image of a bump stock.
Woke: You didn't lie and didn't call it fake news, but you criticized it, which means you thought it was fake news, which means I can criticize you because it isn't really fake news! Haha!

It lets you say "stop insulting our intelligence" and furthermore, no retraction/apology on "you fall for lies" from Wulfey, Gahlo, crms (I'm open to being surprised, though).

On October 06 2017 23:59 Dangermousecatdog wrote:


1) Your youtube link is directed to a youtube video published by the author "Female Shitposter".

2) Female Shitposter has declined to include a source. The video may well be current and true, but we have no way of knowing so.

3) Your original twitter links says that CNN displayed this image to show what a bumpstock looks like. There is no source either, but assuming your youtube link is true, CNN didn't display an image. It is a video.

4) That video isn't to show what a bumpstock looks like, but a fully animated video complete with a human demonstrating firing the gun with a bump stock.

5) The video is captioned "How does a bump stock work", not "what a bump stock rifle looks like"

6) The video at no point points suppressor, grenade launcher as a feature.

In conclusion, you are distributing false news Danglers. Why are you distibuting false news that another media is distributing flase news?

YouTube has made changes to its algorithms after it was strongly condemned for promoting offensive and false conspiracy theory videos about the Las Vegas shooting.

The move to shift the way it delivers search results contradicts YouTube’s earlier statements defending its performance during breaking news.

After a gunman inside the Mandalay Bay hotel fired on a music festival, killing 58 people and injuring hundreds more, videos claiming that the shooting was a hoax and a “false flag” spread like wildfire on YouTube, earning millions of views.

A “Las Vegas shooting” search on the Google-owned platform led users to numerous videos questioning whether the government was lying about the basic facts of the tragedy and suggesting victims could be “actors”.

On Wednesday a YouTube spokesperson insisted the site was highlighting reputable videos and told the Guardian that conspiracy videos on its search page did not violate its standards. But less than 24 hours later the company altered its position, implementing changes to its platform in a direct effort to better promote reputable sources.

A YouTube source confirmed on Thursday that the company tweaked its search algorithms late on Wednesday night, hours after survivors and victims’ relatives criticised the company for prominently featuring videos with hoax claims. YouTube had been working on this change for months and decided to push it out early this week, the source said. It is unclear how the new algorithm functions or whether it is effective in downgrading falsified accounts of the attack.

YouTube declined to answer questions about the changes, which were first reported in the Wall Street Journal.

YouTube’s initial statements, followed by its readjusted algorithms, speak to the broader ethical challenges technology companies face regarding their role in providing major platforms for fake news and propaganda. Facebook and Google were both caught promoting rightwing blogs and conspiracy sites hours after the Las Vegas shooting, forcing the corporations to admit that they had made mistakes in spreading misinformation about the identity of the shooter.

Silicon Valley has faced heightened scrutiny over the last year for allowing political propaganda and fake news to reach wide audiences, possibly playing a part in Russia’s efforts to interfere with the US presidential election.

Conspiracy theorists regularly spread unsubstantiated “false flag” conspiracy theories after mass shootings in the US, sometimes leading to real-world harassment and bullying of victims and survivors. But some fear that YouTube and other social media sites have amplified the problem by connecting people who believe tragedies are staged and actively presenting them with similar content that confirms their suspicions.

A “Las Vegas shooting” search on Thursday, after the algorithmic change had taken place, produced substantially more reputable videos, mostly from mainstream news sources. One conspiracy video still featured prominently, however, along with a warning from the creator of the clip that YouTube was trying to censor it. It later disappeared.

Beyond the search page, it was unclear if any conspiracy videos had been taken down altogether; at least some short films that argued the shooting may not have happened at all remained active on YouTube, rapidly garnering hundreds of thousands of views. Next to these videos, YouTube also continued to promote related content with blatant propaganda and false news.

That included: “CNN Crisis Actor Caught Red Handed” (450,000 views), “Government Staged Las Vegas Mass Shooting” (300,000 views) and “Las Vegas Shooter At Mandalay Bay Hotel Part Of FBI Undercover Sting Operation” (400,000 views).

Stephen Melanson, whose wife and daughter were both shot in the attack, told the Guardian earlier he believed YouTube should remove footage suggesting the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history wasn’t real.

“When I see my wife fighting for her life with a gunshot wound to her chest, and my daughter was also shot, it’s pretty conclusive evidence that it did happen.”

On October 07 2017 00:16 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
What the fuck? Who are these sick people making these videos? Why would you even make them? Isn't this a case of defamation that should be investigated?

On October 07 2017 00:20 zlefin wrote:
Are there criminal defamation laws where you are?

On October 07 2017 00:16 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
What the fuck? Who are these sick people making these videos? Why would you even make them? Isn't this a case of defamation that should be investigated?

On October 06 2017 23:49 Dangermousecatdog wrote:

How is this fake news? Your link isn't from CNN and isn't sourced or dated from CNN. Assuming it is though, did you watch the video? I don't know about guns but the words seem factually accurate and the video appears to show a recoil action that appears plausible to how a bump stock might operate. The twitter link is inaccurate in any case. Assuming the video is a current CNN video, it is neither an image displayed to show what a bump stock rifle looks like, but rather a video showing a voice over and animation on the operation of a bumpstock. The video is even captioned "How does a bump stock work?"

Wherever you have been sourcing your news/information/twitter from, I suggest you should take it with a large degree of skepticism as it appears to be peddling misinformation.

I mean for fucks sake, your link directs me to source called Female Shitposter.

On October 06 2017 23:59 Dangermousecatdog wrote:


1) Your youtube link is directed to a youtube video published by the author "Female ShitPoster".

2) Female Shitposter has declined to include a source. The video may well be current and true, but we have no way of knowing so.

3) Your original twitter links says that CNN displayed this image to show what a bumpstock looks like. There is no source either, but assuming your youtube video in your youtube link is current and true, CNN didn't display an image. It is a video.

4) That video isn't to show what a bumpstock looks like, but a fully animated video complete with a human demonstrating firing the gun with a bump stock.

5) The video is captioned "How does a bump stock work", not "what a bump stock rifle looks like"

6) The video at no point is any attention drawn to either suppressor or grenade launcher as a feature.

In conclusion, you are distributing false news Danglers. It's clear that you haven't even watched your own youtube link. Why are you spreading false news that another media is distributing fake news?




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Btw wtf is

Broke:
Woke:

Is this some American slang or something? I don't have your cultural context to understand your slang.

On October 06 2017 23:50 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Fake news doesn't mean that something in the news is not true. There are mistakes, bad journalism, and even bad faith in every media in the whole world. That's part of journalism, there are fuck ups, and there is bad quality.

Fake news is a deliberate lie to convey a alternative version of reality, disguised as serious information. It's not a mistake, not an exaggeration, nor bad journalism. It's pure and simple lies to deceive people about what is and what is not.

If you can't make the difference, you should really stop posting here, because you are losing our time as it looks everyone else is smart enough to make the distinction. And if you do but decide that every inaccuracy from the liberal media is fake news (saaaad again) because of your grotesque partisan bias, you are also losing our time. Stop it. Thanks.

xDaunts and such are engaging in serious discussions. You are just acting like a propaganda antenna of the alt right on that website. You are shitting this thread, and 90% of the discussions you are involved in lead absolutely nowhere. Just stop that bullshit. We are here to talk and exchange points of views, not to relay every piece of shit propaganda from our side.

On October 07 2017 00:24 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Yes. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/31/contents